Re: Merging Branches Into Trunk
I came to Versions because it was a highly recommended OSX SVN client. But no branch merging? Glad to hear it's being worked on, but with no timeline I think I'll have to go to SmartSVN which I think has branch merging or Syncro SVN, mentioned above. And my $0.02 on branch creation in Versions: it works for me with drag- n-drop while holding down the option button, but a menu item would be a great help as well to make it easier to discover. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Merging Branches Into Trunk
Hi, I came looking for branches and merging but having read the rest of the email I figure I'll have to wait for merging. When it comes to branches, I have tried all sorts of combination of option + draggin everything everywhere and it's not working. I must say the instructions sound very simple but it's just not working. The only timea drag works it just moves my folder under another shortcut. I just have no idea how to create these branches. Any help with a possible screenshot? Thanks in advance, JR On Sep 17, 3:17 am, Martin roest.mar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Love to see merge support. That would make it the perfect client! Now I still have to do some of my work (branch merging) on the command line. Hope you can provide some information about the work being done on merge support. Regards, Martin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Merging Branches Into Trunk
Hi, Love to see merge support. That would make it the perfect client! Now I still have to do some of my work (branch merging) on the command line. Hope you can provide some information about the work being done on merge support. Regards, Martin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Merging Branches Into Trunk
Thank you Dirk. Sorry for the overreaction. I hope merging comes soon. On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Dirk Stoop d...@madebysofa.com wrote: Hi Matt, Branching and copying are supported, merging is not. To branch or copy, simply hold down the option key on your keyboard while you drag a folder in the Repository Browse view. All the best, - Dirk the Versions team On Aug 27, 11:05 pm, Matt Williamson dawsdes...@gmail.com wrote: Wow. I paid $50 for this app and it doesn't even support branching?! Not even copying?! I want my money back. Back to the CLI... On Aug 4, 1:47 pm, Kevin korb.ke...@gmail.com wrote: I found documentation on how to create mybranch, however now I want to merge mybranchinto my trunk, or merge changes from my trunk to abranch. Is there a way to do this in Versions? Thanks. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Merging Branches Into Trunk
Hi Matt, Branching and copying are supported, merging is not. To branch or copy, simply hold down the option key on your keyboard while you drag a folder in the Repository Browse view. All the best, - Dirk the Versions team On Aug 27, 11:05 pm, Matt Williamson dawsdes...@gmail.com wrote: Wow. I paid $50 for this app and it doesn't even support branching?! Not even copying?! I want my money back. Back to the CLI... On Aug 4, 1:47 pm, Kevin korb.ke...@gmail.com wrote: I found documentation on how to create mybranch, however now I want to merge mybranchinto my trunk, or merge changes from my trunk to abranch. Is there a way to do this in Versions? Thanks. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Merging Branches Into Trunk
Koen, This is exactly the type of communication I was hoping for. I'm now looking forward to this upcoming version on an unpredictable timeline :) On Aug 8, 5:53 am, Koen Bok k...@madebysofa.com wrote: Hey Quinn, Shan and Ray, For what it's worth, I can officially confirm we're working on it. It's a tough one, but we feel we're on the right way to tackle it. Regarding the timeframe I can't promise anything. I can however give some hints on why this is taking some time. - Subversions 1.6 merging became a lot better, so we had to wait for that. It was actually pretty tough to do 1.51.6 but we have it now. - Subversions merging options are so complex that we need to make choices to keep the ui usable, involving lots of discussions and research. - Merging as a problem is more then subversion alone. You also have to deal with content/conflicts in a sensible way if you want to do it right. And Quinn, if your job gets less dreamy, shoot me an email ;-) - Koen On Aug 7, 7:08 pm, Shan iotas...@gmail.com wrote: Quinn, No offense taken. At first, I shared your opinion, but unfortunately given the utter silence from the Versions team, and lack of responses to any methods of communication other than this group, they really left me with no other options. I've waited patiently since the beta for any sort of hint that they'll be adding merge, yet week after week someone asks for merge to be a feature, with no feedback from the team. I don't feel that I'm more important than anyone else, but I'd rather let them know they're about to lose a customer now, rather than they just don't see me upgrade to 2.0 because I'm already gone. It's nice that you happen to know that 1.1 and 2.0 are being worked on, but all I can do IS imagine, because of the lack of communication from the Versions team. From what I've read on the group, they barely respond to sales requests, and almost never to support requests, until you come to this group and raise a ruckus. I'm not saying that the the feature needs to be done tomorrow, or even a timeline on when it might be done, I'm just asking that the team acknowledge a year's worth of complaints of users who need the functionality, and give us some hope that they're actually planning on doing something about it. Shan --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Merging Branches Into Trunk
If you have windows, there is a great open source shell extension called tortoise SVN. I bought Versions assuming it would have merge abilities for the trunk (since, you know, it seems to be the most important of things to do with subversion) and was pretty upset last night when I found out I'd have to use windows. Tortoise SVN works great, though. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Merging Branches Into Trunk
FYI, merging is probably the most-requested feature — it would be nice to check through the Google Group archives before posting a new thread on it. Merging is important for many people, but realize that many people work only in trunk. The developers are well aware of the features of other SVN tools, and particularly TortoiseSVN. I trust that they want to make Versions the best SVN client possible, and not just on the Mac. Also realize that Pico Sofa have finite resources, compared to the open-source TortoiseSVN, and creating a polished app takes a lot of work. And just to be slightly contrary, I'd submit that commit and update are probably the most important of things to do with subversion. ;-) - Quinn On Aug 6, 2009, at 5:46 PM, Scott Klein wrote: If you have windows, there is a great open source shell extension called tortoise SVN. I bought Versions assuming it would have merge abilities for the trunk (since, you know, it seems to be the most important of things to do with subversion) and was pretty upset last night when I found out I'd have to use windows. Tortoise SVN works great, though. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: Merging Branches Into Trunk
On Aug 7, 2009, at 9:27 AM, Shan wrote: Even though it's brought up pretty much weekly, nobody on the Versions team has even hinted that they're working on it. The other decent OS X SVN client, Cornerstone, also lacks this feature, and they seem to be equally unresponsive (they don't even support SVN 1.6 yet). I'm giving the Versions team about a week to respond saying that they're working on it, before abandoning it and switching to Syncro SVN. Yes, it's written in Java, but supporting all basic SVN commands is better than not. http://www.syncrosvnclient.com Wow, I had forgotten how horrendous Syncro SVN looks. (It's like Eclipse's cousin, and I don't mean that as a compliment.) I can't even think where I might look to perform a merge... It makes me appreciate the Versions interface all the more. I think I'd rather merge by hand from Terminal than deal with such a busy, non-obvious interface. :-/ Please don't take offense at this, but personally I get tired of people making demands or issuing ultimatums on this list. As a consumer, you can vote with your dollars, but it's unbecoming to act as though one has a bigger stake in the app, let alone the mandate to order the developers around. I don't imagine that such was your intent, but similar emails seem to come off that way. Especially when you post to a group list rather than just leaving it between you and the devs — it has the feel of attempting the embarrass them publicly, and that doesn't win any friends. I happen to know that the devs are working hard on both 1.1 and 2.0 releases of Versions. Can you imagine that they would possibly NOT be working on merge? Given the pent-up demand, it would be borderline suicidal for the app. Nobody likes to hear it will be done when it's done, but it's a well-known fact that if you rush software, you get crappy software. (Anyone ever tried eating 30-minute brownies that have cooked for 5 minutes?) I'd rather wait for merge done right than deal with merge done poorly now. My 2¢, - Quinn smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: Merging Branches Into Trunk
Quinn, No offense taken. At first, I shared your opinion, but unfortunately given the utter silence from the Versions team, and lack of responses to any methods of communication other than this group, they really left me with no other options. I've waited patiently since the beta for any sort of hint that they'll be adding merge, yet week after week someone asks for merge to be a feature, with no feedback from the team. I don't feel that I'm more important than anyone else, but I'd rather let them know they're about to lose a customer now, rather than they just don't see me upgrade to 2.0 because I'm already gone. It's nice that you happen to know that 1.1 and 2.0 are being worked on, but all I can do IS imagine, because of the lack of communication from the Versions team. From what I've read on the group, they barely respond to sales requests, and almost never to support requests, until you come to this group and raise a ruckus. I'm not saying that the the feature needs to be done tomorrow, or even a timeline on when it might be done, I'm just asking that the team acknowledge a year's worth of complaints of users who need the functionality, and give us some hope that they're actually planning on doing something about it. Shan --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Merging Branches Into Trunk
On Aug 7, 2009, at 10:08 AM, Shan wrote: Quinn, No offense taken. At first, I shared your opinion, but unfortunately given the utter silence from the Versions team, and lack of responses to any methods of communication other than this group, they really left me with no other options. I've waited patiently since the beta for any sort of hint that they'll be adding merge, yet week after week someone asks for merge to be a feature, with no feedback from the team. I don't feel that I'm more important than anyone else, but I'd rather let them know they're about to lose a customer now, rather than they just don't see me upgrade to 2.0 because I'm already gone. It's nice that you happen to know that 1.1 and 2.0 are being worked on, but all I can do IS imagine, because of the lack of communication from the Versions team. From what I've read on the group, they barely respond to sales requests, and almost never to support requests, until you come to this group and raise a ruckus. I'm not saying that the the feature needs to be done tomorrow, or even a timeline on when it might be done, I'm just asking that the team acknowledge a year's worth of complaints of users who need the functionality, and give us some hope that they're actually planning on doing something about it. Shan Glad I haven't offended. I totally understand your sentiment, and agree that some degree transparency is generally beneficial. Something between stony silence and disclosing competitive secrets, of course. ;-) If a yes, we're working on it (and maybe a hint of timeframe?) is sufficient, I'm all in favor. If I didn't already have a dream job, I might be tempted to pursue working with Pico/Sofa on Versions, but that's not on the horizon right now. Maybe someday... - Quinn smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: Merging Branches Into Trunk
I have hope that they are working on it. http://twitter.com/thekarladam/status/2243960191 http://twitter.com/koenbok/status/2244407711 -Ray On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Quinn Taylor quinntay...@mac.com wrote: On Aug 7, 2009, at 10:08 AM, Shan wrote: I'm just asking that the team acknowledge a year's worth of complaints of users who need the functionality, and give us some hope that they're actually planning on doing something about it. Shan Glad I haven't offended. I totally understand your sentiment, and agree that some degree transparency is generally beneficial. Something between stony silence and disclosing competitive secrets, of course. ;-) If a yes, we're working on it (and maybe a hint of timeframe?) is sufficient, I'm all in favor. If I didn't already have a dream job, I might be tempted to pursue working with Pico/Sofa on Versions, but that's not on the horizon right now. Maybe someday... - Quinn --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Merging Branches Into Trunk
Unfortunately not, but I am pretty sure merge support is being worked on, as this is possibly the #1 requested feature on this list. -Ray --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
