[VFB] QFTD
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Re: [VFB] Rope-dub swap photos
Thanks, Joyce, for the back-ground. That's a good idea for a thread. Each swapper explains: the background for his/her fly design the method of fishing the intended quarry on what kind of water Reply: I looked for this tie on the web, couldn't find it. Does it float long without floatant? There's another Byron's midge on which he uses deer hair and foam to get it to float. Are you satisfied as to how this fly pattern is coming out? That's what matters, and too, what do the fish think? DonO - Original Message - From: Joyce Westphal To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 6:25 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope-dub swap photos Byron's midge is ribbed with purple Holoshimmer, a metallic thread you get at JoAnnes in the sewing department. I love it because it is very strong but doesn't add the weight that wire does. You'll not get the same results with wire..too heavy. this fly sits in the surface film and is a real trout catcher on the Hobblecreek river. This fly was tied to match some ugly black bugs that we skimmed with a nylon stocking. Joyce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] Rope Dub Swap
Got some neat flies in the mail today. Rick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Rope-dub swap photos
It's called Byron's midge because Byron Sargeant is a fishing friend who suggested that this pattern would work for what we saw..I tied it up and it worked great in our area. Because it is made with UV dub, which is a naturally floating synthetic, no floatant is needed. We just throw it to the area where we saw the fish rising, let it float over his head, and he took it. That began the success with this fly. The starling feather seems to wobble in the current giving the fly action. Joyce On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote: Thanks, Joyce, for the back-ground. * That's a good idea for a thread.* *Each swapper explains:* the background for his/her fly design the method of fishing the intended quarry on what kind of water Reply: I looked for this tie on the web, couldn't find it. Does it float long without floatant? There's another Byron's midge on which he uses deer hair and foam to get it to float. Are you satisfied as to how this fly pattern is coming out? That's what matters, and too, what do the fish think? DonO - Original Message - *From:* Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.com *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, September 09, 2010 6:25 AM *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Rope-dub swap photos Byron's midge is ribbed with purple Holoshimmer, a metallic thread you get at JoAnnes in the sewing department. I love it because it is very strong but doesn't add the weight that wire does. You'll not get the same results with wire..too heavy. * this fly sits in the surface film and is a real trout catcher on the Hobblecreek river.* This fly was tied to match some ugly black bugs that we skimmed with a nylon stocking. Joyce http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Rope-dub swap photos
Hi Joyce; Love how you used the starling feather, I think the yellow tipped starling feather has a lot of uses, I made a spider variant where I tied a starling feather in by the tip as a tail and used the remainder to hackle a peacock herl body. Wayne . --- On Thu, 9/9/10, Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.com wrote: From: Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope-dub swap photos To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, September 9, 2010, 3:20 PM It's called Byron's midge because Byron Sargeant is a fishing friend who suggested that this pattern would work for what we saw..I tied it up and it worked great in our area. Because it is made with UV dub, which is a naturally floating synthetic, no floatant is needed. We just throw it to the area where we saw the fish rising, let it float over his head, and he took it. That began the success with this fly. The starling feather seems to wobble in the current giving the fly action. Joyce On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote: Thanks, Joyce, for the back-ground. That's a good idea for a thread. Each swapper explains: the background for his/her fly design the method of fishing the intended quarry on what kind of water Reply: I looked for this tie on the web, couldn't find it. Does it float long without floatant? There's another Byron's midge on which he uses deer hair and foam to get it to float. Are you satisfied as to how this fly pattern is coming out? That's what matters, and too, what do the fish think? DonO - Original Message - From: Joyce Westphal To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 6:25 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope-dub swap photos Byron's midge is ribbed with purple Holoshimmer, a metallic thread you get at JoAnnes in the sewing department. I love it because it is very strong but doesn't add the weight that wire does. You'll not get the same results with wire..too heavy. this fly sits in the surface film and is a real trout catcher on the Hobblecreek river. This fly was tied to match some ugly black bugs that we skimmed with a nylon stocking. Joyce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Rope-dub swap photos
What a good idea..I've never used starling as a tail but I use it a lot like jungle cock eyes for tiny black dries. Joyce On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Wayne Blake-Hedges wayneb22...@yahoo.comwrote: Hi Joyce; Love how you used the starling feather, I think the yellow tipped starling feather has a lot of uses, I made a spider variant where I tied a starling feather in by the tip as a tail and used the remainder to hackle a peacock herl body. Wayne . --- On *Thu, 9/9/10, Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope-dub swap photos To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, September 9, 2010, 3:20 PM It's called Byron's midge because Byron Sargeant is a fishing friend who suggested that this pattern would work for what we saw..I tied it up and it worked great in our area. Because it is made with UV dub, which is a naturally floating synthetic, no floatant is needed. We just throw it to the area where we saw the fish rising, let it float over his head, and he took it. That began the success with this fly. The starling feather seems to wobble in the current giving the fly action. Joyce On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.comhttp://us.mc1115.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=...@tribcsp.com wrote: Thanks, Joyce, for the back-ground. * That's a good idea for a thread.* *Each swapper explains:* the background for his/her fly design the method of fishing the intended quarry on what kind of water Reply: I looked for this tie on the web, couldn't find it. Does it float long without floatant? There's another Byron's midge on which he uses deer hair and foam to get it to float. Are you satisfied as to how this fly pattern is coming out? That's what matters, and too, what do the fish think? DonO - Original Message - *From:* Joyce Westphalhttp://us.mc1115.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=westpha...@gmail.com *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.comhttp://us.mc1115.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vfb-m...@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, September 09, 2010 6:25 AM *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Rope-dub swap photos Byron's midge is ribbed with purple Holoshimmer, a metallic thread you get at JoAnnes in the sewing department. I love it because it is very strong but doesn't add the weight that wire does. You'll not get the same results with wire..too heavy. * this fly sits in the surface film and is a real trout catcher on the Hobblecreek river.* This fly was tied to match some ugly black bugs that we skimmed with a nylon stocking. Joyce http://www.linesend.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.comhttp://us.mc1115.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vfb-m...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.comhttp://us.mc1115.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Rope-dub swap photos
I will jump in here with the thread re: my burned-wing Adams. I love to fish the dries, and there are not many as effective as the Adams. I have tried lots of materials for all the parts of the fly. Nothing new here. I am using burned wings now (which I take from Indian necks) on mayflies rather than search across a neck for a matched pair of hackle tips for wings. Burning wings is a great way to make a matched pair of wings in a hurry. Terrific silhouette. I like Hareline sparkle dub or flash dub, or something to do with the reflective holo fiber they put in some of their dubbings. Still working on the tapered body. If the body turns out too bushy, I will trim the fibers back until I can see the body segments The rope-dubbing makes a great tapered segmented body. My destination is usually one or two willow-lined streams with beaver ponds, but lately the guides from the fly shops in Salt Lake City bring their guests all that way to fish for my Browns. In the past I would fish Hobble Creek (which Joyce speaks of ) and I knew most of the Trout there by their first names. But Hobble Creek has changed over the years, with private property issues, heavy traffic and overgrowth, it is still in my back yard, but not as fun to fish. Then there are the rattlesnakes... Larry Johnson Springville, Utah Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.com 9/9/2010 1:20 PM It's called Byron's midge because Byron Sargeant is a fishing friend who suggested that this pattern would work for what we saw..I tied it up and it worked great in our area. Because it is made with UV dub, which is a naturally floating synthetic, no floatant is needed. We just throw it to the area where we saw the fish rising, let it float over his head, and he took it. That began the success with this fly. The starling feather seems to wobble in the current giving the fly action. Joyce On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote: Thanks, Joyce, for the back-ground. * That's a good idea for a thread.* *Each swapper explains:* the background for his/her fly design the method of fishing the intended quarry on what kind of water Reply: I looked for this tie on the web, couldn't find it. Does it float long without floatant? There's another Byron's midge on which he uses deer hair and foam to get it to float. Are you satisfied as to how this fly pattern is coming out? That's what matters, and too, what do the fish think? DonO - Original Message - *From:* Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.com *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, September 09, 2010 6:25 AM *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Rope-dub swap photos Byron's midge is ribbed with purple Holoshimmer, a metallic thread you get at JoAnnes in the sewing department. I love it because it is very strong but doesn't add the weight that wire does. You'll not get the same results with wire..too heavy. * this fly sits in the surface film and is a real trout catcher on the Hobblecreek river.* This fly was tied to match some ugly black bugs that we skimmed with a nylon stocking. Joyce http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Rope-dub swap photos
Wayne, Bring me one when you come to the Sowbug. Wish we could Joyce to come out too. Tony --- On Thu, 9/9/10, Wayne Blake-Hedges wayneb22...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Wayne Blake-Hedges wayneb22...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope-dub swap photos To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, September 9, 2010, 2:26 PM Hi Joyce; Love how you used the starling feather, I think the yellow tipped starling feather has a lot of uses, I made a spider variant where I tied a starling feather in by the tip as a tail and used the remainder to hackle a peacock herl body. Wayne . --- On Thu, 9/9/10, Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.com wrote: From: Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope-dub swap photos To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, September 9, 2010, 3:20 PM It's called Byron's midge because Byron Sargeant is a fishing friend who suggested that this pattern would work for what we saw..I tied it up and it worked great in our area. Because it is made with UV dub, which is a naturally floating synthetic, no floatant is needed. We just throw it to the area where we saw the fish rising, let it float over his head, and he took it. That began the success with this fly. The starling feather seems to wobble in the current giving the fly action. Joyce On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote: Thanks, Joyce, for the back-ground. That's a good idea for a thread. Each swapper explains: the background for his/her fly design the method of fishing the intended quarry on what kind of water Reply: I looked for this tie on the web, couldn't find it. Does it float long without floatant? There's another Byron's midge on which he uses deer hair and foam to get it to float. Are you satisfied as to how this fly pattern is coming out? That's what matters, and too, what do the fish think? DonO - Original Message - From: Joyce Westphal To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 6:25 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope-dub swap photos Byron's midge is ribbed with purple Holoshimmer, a metallic thread you get at JoAnnes in the sewing department. I love it because it is very strong but doesn't add the weight that wire does. You'll not get the same results with wire..too heavy. this fly sits in the surface film and is a real trout catcher on the Hobblecreek river. This fly was tied to match some ugly black bugs that we skimmed with a nylon stocking. Joyce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Rope-dub swap photos
Ok, Don, thanks a lot for your nice comments on my fly. You should see the box of rejects which will join me on my next fishing trip. Hopefully on Saturday, My son will take me out... Things are changing, To my fly: Background: When you announced the swap I got my new issue of our local ff mag. It has the Wet Stonefly pattern in it. Well, not ropedubbed, and they did omit the tails. But I found the construction of the wing, with the mallard feather and the reinforcing floss (brown wing case) very interesting, and decided to convert it to a roped pattern. Method of fishing: Dead drift, as for a large stonefly which has felt dead into the water. Quarry and kind of water: Stonefly water, rocky and loaded with trout. Regards Rene Don Ordes wrote: Thanks, Joyce, for the back-ground. * That's a good idea for a thread.* *Each swapper explains:* the background for his/her fly design the method of fishing the intended quarry on what kind of water -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Rope-dub swap photos
Joyce, Purple works well here on the White and Crooked Creek. Tony --- On Thu, 9/9/10, Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.com wrote: From: Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope-dub swap photos To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, September 9, 2010, 2:20 PM It's called Byron's midge because Byron Sargeant is a fishing friend who suggested that this pattern would work for what we saw..I tied it up and it worked great in our area. Because it is made with UV dub, which is a naturally floating synthetic, no floatant is needed. We just throw it to the area where we saw the fish rising, let it float over his head, and he took it. That began the success with this fly. The starling feather seems to wobble in the current giving the fly action. Joyce On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote: Thanks, Joyce, for the back-ground. That's a good idea for a thread. Each swapper explains: the background for his/her fly design the method of fishing the intended quarry on what kind of water Reply: I looked for this tie on the web, couldn't find it. Does it float long without floatant? There's another Byron's midge on which he uses deer hair and foam to get it to float. Are you satisfied as to how this fly pattern is coming out? That's what matters, and too, what do the fish think? DonO - Original Message - From: Joyce Westphal To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 6:25 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope-dub swap photos Byron's midge is ribbed with purple Holoshimmer, a metallic thread you get at JoAnnes in the sewing department. I love it because it is very strong but doesn't add the weight that wire does. You'll not get the same results with wire..too heavy. this fly sits in the surface film and is a real trout catcher on the Hobblecreek river. This fly was tied to match some ugly black bugs that we skimmed with a nylon stocking. Joyce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Rope-dub swap photos
Hi Tony; No problem, I'll probably have a bunch of flies to show you by then. Wayne --- On Thu, 9/9/10, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope-dub swap photos To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, September 9, 2010, 4:45 PM Wayne, Bring me one when you come to the Sowbug. Wish we could Joyce to come out too. Tony --- On Thu, 9/9/10, Wayne Blake-Hedges wayneb22...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Wayne Blake-Hedges wayneb22...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope-dub swap photos To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, September 9, 2010, 2:26 PM Hi Joyce; Love how you used the starling feather, I think the yellow tipped starling feather has a lot of uses, I made a spider variant where I tied a starling feather in by the tip as a tail and used the remainder to hackle a peacock herl body. Wayne . --- On Thu, 9/9/10, Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.com wrote: From: Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope-dub swap photos To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, September 9, 2010, 3:20 PM It's called Byron's midge because Byron Sargeant is a fishing friend who suggested that this pattern would work for what we saw..I tied it up and it worked great in our area. Because it is made with UV dub, which is a naturally floating synthetic, no floatant is needed. We just throw it to the area where we saw the fish rising, let it float over his head, and he took it. That began the success with this fly. The starling feather seems to wobble in the current giving the fly action. Joyce On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote: Thanks, Joyce, for the back-ground. That's a good idea for a thread. Each swapper explains: the background for his/her fly design the method of fishing the intended quarry on what kind of water Reply: I looked for this tie on the web, couldn't find it. Does it float long without floatant? There's another Byron's midge on which he uses deer hair and foam to get it to float. Are you satisfied as to how this fly pattern is coming out? That's what matters, and too, what do the fish think? DonO - Original Message - From: Joyce Westphal To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 6:25 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope-dub swap photos Byron's midge is ribbed with purple Holoshimmer, a metallic thread you get at JoAnnes in the sewing department. I love it because it is very strong but doesn't add the weight that wire does. You'll not get the same results with wire..too heavy. this fly sits in the surface film and is a real trout catcher on the Hobblecreek river. This fly was tied to match some ugly black bugs that we skimmed with a nylon stocking. Joyce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] Hook Swap
A nice box of hooks arrived today, nice selection, and many THANKS to Rick for hosting the swap. Peggy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Future Fly Tier/Fly Fisher
Congratulations to Mom, Dad, and Grinning Grampaw! We've now got #4 on the way. Except it's #4 GREAT-grandchild. a. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] re: steelhead flies
Don, have you ever gap wrapped or rope dubbed any steelhead fllies. I've a bunch of purple perils to tie, and I'm thinking that rope dubbing them would be quicker and look as good as the standard chenille and yarn type bodies. What do you think? Joyce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Rope-dub swap photos
Hi Larry; Great idea on the burned wing feathers, as with the others I admire the rope dubbing effect. Wayne --- On Thu, 9/9/10, Larry Johnson johns...@uvu.edu wrote: From: Larry Johnson johns...@uvu.edu Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope-dub swap photos To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, September 9, 2010, 4:02 PM I will jump in here with the thread re: my burned-wing Adams. I love to fish the dries, and there are not many as effective as the Adams. I have tried lots of materials for all the parts of the fly. Nothing new here. I am using burned wings now (which I take from Indian necks) on mayflies rather than search across a neck for a matched pair of hackle tips for wings. Burning wings is a great way to make a matched pair of wings in a hurry. Terrific silhouette. I like Hareline sparkle dub or flash dub, or something to do with the reflective holo fiber they put in some of their dubbings. Still working on the tapered body. If the body turns out too bushy, I will trim the fibers back until I can see the body segments The rope-dubbing makes a great tapered segmented body. My destination is usually one or two willow-lined streams with beaver ponds, but lately the guides from the fly shops in Salt Lake City bring their guests all that way to fish for my Browns. In the past I would fish Hobble Creek (which Joyce speaks of ) and I knew most of the Trout there by their first names. But Hobble Creek has changed over the years, with private property issues, heavy traffic and overgrowth, it is still in my back yard, but not as fun to fish. Then there are the rattlesnakes... Larry Johnson Springville, Utah Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.com 9/9/2010 1:20 PM It's called Byron's midge because Byron Sargeant is a fishing friend who suggested that this pattern would work for what we saw..I tied it up and it worked great in our area. Because it is made with UV dub, which is a naturally floating synthetic, no floatant is needed. We just throw it to the area where we saw the fish rising, let it float over his head, and he took it. That began the success with this fly. The starling feather seems to wobble in the current giving the fly action. Joyce On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote: Thanks, Joyce, for the back-ground. * That's a good idea for a thread.* *Each swapper explains:* the background for his/her fly design the method of fishing the intended quarry on what kind of water Reply: I looked for this tie on the web, couldn't find it. Does it float long without floatant? There's another Byron's midge on which he uses deer hair and foam to get it to float. Are you satisfied as to how this fly pattern is coming out? That's what matters, and too, what do the fish think? DonO - Original Message - *From:* Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.com *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, September 09, 2010 6:25 AM *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Rope-dub swap photos Byron's midge is ribbed with purple Holoshimmer, a metallic thread you get at JoAnnes in the sewing department. I love it because it is very strong but doesn't add the weight that wire does. You'll not get the same results with wire..too heavy. * this fly sits in the surface film and is a real trout catcher on the Hobblecreek river.* This fly was tied to match some ugly black bugs that we skimmed with a nylon stocking. Joyce http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored
Re: [VFB] re: steelhead flies
Joyce, I have some purple seal and I will give it a shot at a gap-wrap over a silver wrapped base. I have purple spey grizzly, but no purple squirrel. shukkins. DonO - Original Message - From: Joyce Westphal To: Don Ordes ; vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:25 PM Subject: [VFB] re: steelhead flies Don, have you ever gap wrapped or rope dubbed any steelhead fllies. I've a bunch of purple perils to tie, and I'm thinking that rope dubbing them would be quicker and look as good as the standard chenille and yarn type bodies. What do you think? Joyce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] opossum fur for dubbing source
http://www.paradisefibers.net/Possum-Spinning-Fiber-p/47151.htm Check this out, ever since the rope dub swap I've been searching for a source of the dubbing I used. It was a old box from Al Neimic of Chicopee, MA, but I noticed a little lable about possum blend. This fiber place has all sorts of wools, and fibers from different animal, I think it could be a dubbing source. Has anyone tried blending and dying? Peggy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] opossum fur for dubbing source
Joyce, I use Australian 'possum all the time- just love it. Have a bad of all kinds of pieces. With the rope-dub, I can get as many 'looks' as I want, plus I can take the dub off of different places on the animal to get more different looks. See the rope-dubbed flies on my website. Reuven is sending me a possum pelt, should be here soon. I'll send you some. If you just want to play and share right away, I'll bet you can pick up a grade 3 pelt at Moscow Hide and Fur for a reasonable price. Look for chinchilla while you're at it. Note to all ropers: If you have fur on the hide, like possum, muskrat, etc., rope dub clippings of fur without blending. The guard-hairs will become hackle-tips. Once you do blend a fur, try ice-dub as a hilight, and gold dubbing too. DonO - Original Message - From: Peggy Brenner peggy.bren...@comcast.net To: Virtual Fly Box vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 8:01 PM Subject: [VFB] opossum fur for dubbing source http://www.paradisefibers.net/Possum-Spinning-Fiber-p/47151.htm Check this out, ever since the rope dub swap I've been searching for a source of the dubbing I used. It was a old box from Al Neimic of Chicopee, MA, but I noticed a little lable about possum blend. This fiber place has all sorts of wools, and fibers from different animal, I think it could be a dubbing source. Has anyone tried blending and dying? Peggy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Rope-dub swap photos
Thanks Wayne. The wing is very easy, especially compared to using a grizzly hackle tip. The rope dub is much easier and faster than I imagined... Larry Johnson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
