Re: [VFB] Joyce
Thank you Joyce. Will try it again next week. Sent from my iPad Thank You, Alan Di Somma Mesa, Az. Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once. > On Jun 9, 2018, at 6:46 AM, Joyce M Westphal wrote: > > Enjoy your vacation. You can fish the Provo anywhere you can walk to it. > The lower part is all catch and release. I drive over it every day going to > and from to work as it goes right by my facility. Joyce > >> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 7:22 PM, Phxflytyer wrote: >> TNX Joyce. I am now in Montana for a few days but plan to spend the night in >> Orem on the way back to Arizona. Saw a few nice spots to fish in Mt on the >> way back. >> >> I think I saw the park you are talking about on my way back out of Provo >> Canyon? >> Is there two spots to fish? One looked like a good sized park like area and >> the one just a little north of that, looked like there was a small water >> fall or a drop off? >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> Thank You, >> Alan Di Somma >> Mesa, Az. >> >> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once. >> >> >> >>> On Jun 8, 2018, at 4:51 PM, Joyce M Westphal wrote: >>> >>> You can go down Orem Center street to 300 East, turn left and go North >>> until you hit Riverwoods Drive. You will be in front of the Riverwoods >>> surgery center. Turn right there, go right until you see the bridge over >>> the Provo River. Park in any parking lot and give it a try. Watch out for >>> the tree trunks on the south. There are often big trout under the shadows >>> of the bridge. Sometimes one is lucky, sometimes not. The Provo River is >>> fishable its entire length. I say, give it another try if you have time. >>> Joyce >>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 6:51 PM, Phxflytyer wrote: >>> Got up the canyon to Canyon Glen Park. Couldn’t find a decent place to cast. But at lease I got to see the water. Thanks for the info Joyce. Is there some place else you fish? Sent from my iPad Thank You, Alan Di Somma Mesa, Az. Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once. > On Jun 6, 2018, at 7:07 PM, Joyce M Westphal wrote: > > Go straight up Provo Canyon. Take Center street to University Avenue, > turn left, stay in the right hand lane and you will have the canyon to > yourself. Be sure to get an out of state fishing license. Have a great > time. Sow bugs, nymphs, any dry seems to work. Joyce > >> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 10:54 AM, Phxflytyer wrote: > >> >> I am going to spend the night in Orem on June 14. Is there a good place >> to wet a line for a couple of hours? >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> Thank You, >> Alan Di Somma >> Mesa, Az. >> >> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once. >> >> >> >> -- >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" >> group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en >> >> VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "VFB Mail" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VFB Mail" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because
Re: [VFB] Joyce
Enjoy your vacation. You can fish the Provo anywhere you can walk to it. The lower part is all catch and release. I drive over it every day going to and from to work as it goes right by my facility. Joyce On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 7:22 PM, Phxflytyer wrote: > TNX Joyce. I am now in Montana for a few days but plan to spend the night > in Orem on the way back to Arizona. Saw a few nice spots to fish in Mt on > the way back. > > I think I saw the park you are talking about on my way back out of Provo > Canyon? > Is there two spots to fish? One looked like a good sized park like area > and the one just a little north of that, looked like there was a small > water fall or a drop off? > > > Sent from my iPad > > Thank You, > Alan Di Somma > Mesa, Az. > > Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once. > > > > On Jun 8, 2018, at 4:51 PM, Joyce M Westphal wrote: > > You can go down Orem Center street to 300 East, turn left and go North > until you hit Riverwoods Drive. You will be in front of the Riverwoods > surgery center. Turn right there, go right until you see the bridge over > the Provo River. Park in any parking lot and give it a try. Watch out for > the tree trunks on the south. There are often big trout under the shadows > of the bridge. Sometimes one is lucky, sometimes not. The Provo River is > fishable its entire length. I say, give it another try if you have time. > Joyce > > On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 6:51 PM, Phxflytyer wrote: > >> Got up the canyon to Canyon Glen Park. Couldn’t find a decent place to >> cast. But at lease I got to see the water. Thanks for the info Joyce. >> >> Is there some place else you fish? >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> Thank You, >> Alan Di Somma >> Mesa, Az. >> >> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once. >> >> >> >> On Jun 6, 2018, at 7:07 PM, Joyce M Westphal wrote: >> >> Go straight up Provo Canyon. Take Center street to University Avenue, >> turn left, stay in the right hand lane and you will have the canyon to >> yourself. Be sure to get an out of state fishing license. Have a great >> time. Sow bugs, nymphs, any dry seems to work. Joyce >> >> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 10:54 AM, Phxflytyer wrote: >> >>> >>> I am going to spend the night in Orem on June 14. Is there a good place >>> to wet a line for a couple of hours? >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> Thank You, >>> Alan Di Somma >>> Mesa, Az. >>> >>> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" >>> group. >>> >>> To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group >>> /vfb-mail?hl=en >>> >>> VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "VFB Mail" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> -- >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" >> group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group >> /vfb-mail?hl=en >> >> VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VFB Mail" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" >> group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group >> /vfb-mail?hl=en >> >> VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VFB Mail" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscribe@ > googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ > group/vfb-mail?hl=en > >
Re: [VFB] Joyce
TNX Joyce. I am now in Montana for a few days but plan to spend the night in Orem on the way back to Arizona. Saw a few nice spots to fish in Mt on the way back. I think I saw the park you are talking about on my way back out of Provo Canyon? Is there two spots to fish? One looked like a good sized park like area and the one just a little north of that, looked like there was a small water fall or a drop off? Sent from my iPad Thank You, Alan Di Somma Mesa, Az. Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once. > On Jun 8, 2018, at 4:51 PM, Joyce M Westphal wrote: > > You can go down Orem Center street to 300 East, turn left and go North until > you hit Riverwoods Drive. You will be in front of the Riverwoods surgery > center. Turn right there, go right until you see the bridge over the Provo > River. Park in any parking lot and give it a try. Watch out for the tree > trunks on the south. There are often big trout under the shadows of the > bridge. Sometimes one is lucky, sometimes not. The Provo River is fishable > its entire length. I say, give it another try if you have time. Joyce > >> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 6:51 PM, Phxflytyer wrote: >> Got up the canyon to Canyon Glen Park. Couldn’t find a decent place to cast. >> But at lease I got to see the water. Thanks for the info Joyce. >> >> Is there some place else you fish? >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> Thank You, >> Alan Di Somma >> Mesa, Az. >> >> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once. >> >> >> >>> On Jun 6, 2018, at 7:07 PM, Joyce M Westphal wrote: >>> >>> Go straight up Provo Canyon. Take Center street to University Avenue, turn >>> left, stay in the right hand lane and you will have the canyon to yourself. >>> Be sure to get an out of state fishing license. Have a great time. Sow >>> bugs, nymphs, any dry seems to work. Joyce >>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 10:54 AM, Phxflytyer wrote: >>> I am going to spend the night in Orem on June 14. Is there a good place to wet a line for a couple of hours? Sent from my iPad Thank You, Alan Di Somma Mesa, Az. Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VFB Mail" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" >>> group. >>> >>> To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en >>> >>> VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VFB Mail" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en >> >> VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VFB Mail" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VFB Mail" group. >
Re: [VFB] Joyce
You can go down Orem Center street to 300 East, turn left and go North until you hit Riverwoods Drive. You will be in front of the Riverwoods surgery center. Turn right there, go right until you see the bridge over the Provo River. Park in any parking lot and give it a try. Watch out for the tree trunks on the south. There are often big trout under the shadows of the bridge. Sometimes one is lucky, sometimes not. The Provo River is fishable its entire length. I say, give it another try if you have time. Joyce On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 6:51 PM, Phxflytyer wrote: > Got up the canyon to Canyon Glen Park. Couldn’t find a decent place to > cast. But at lease I got to see the water. Thanks for the info Joyce. > > Is there some place else you fish? > > > Sent from my iPad > > Thank You, > Alan Di Somma > Mesa, Az. > > Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once. > > > > On Jun 6, 2018, at 7:07 PM, Joyce M Westphal wrote: > > Go straight up Provo Canyon. Take Center street to University Avenue, > turn left, stay in the right hand lane and you will have the canyon to > yourself. Be sure to get an out of state fishing license. Have a great > time. Sow bugs, nymphs, any dry seems to work. Joyce > > On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 10:54 AM, Phxflytyer wrote: > >> >> I am going to spend the night in Orem on June 14. Is there a good place >> to wet a line for a couple of hours? >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> Thank You, >> Alan Di Somma >> Mesa, Az. >> >> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once. >> >> >> >> -- >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" >> group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group >> /vfb-mail?hl=en >> >> VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VFB Mail" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscribe@ > googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ > group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VFB Mail" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscribe@ > googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ > group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VFB Mail" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VFB Mail" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [VFB] Joyce
Got up the canyon to Canyon Glen Park. Couldn’t find a decent place to cast. But at lease I got to see the water. Thanks for the info Joyce. Is there some place else you fish? Sent from my iPad Thank You, Alan Di Somma Mesa, Az. Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once. > On Jun 6, 2018, at 7:07 PM, Joyce M Westphal wrote: > > Go straight up Provo Canyon. Take Center street to University Avenue, turn > left, stay in the right hand lane and you will have the canyon to yourself. > Be sure to get an out of state fishing license. Have a great time. Sow > bugs, nymphs, any dry seems to work. Joyce > >> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 10:54 AM, Phxflytyer wrote: >> >> I am going to spend the night in Orem on June 14. Is there a good place to >> wet a line for a couple of hours? >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> Thank You, >> Alan Di Somma >> Mesa, Az. >> >> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once. >> >> >> >> -- >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en >> >> VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VFB Mail" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VFB Mail" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VFB Mail" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [VFB] Joyce
Go straight up Provo Canyon. Take Center street to University Avenue, turn left, stay in the right hand lane and you will have the canyon to yourself. Be sure to get an out of state fishing license. Have a great time. Sow bugs, nymphs, any dry seems to work. Joyce On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 10:54 AM, Phxflytyer wrote: > > I am going to spend the night in Orem on June 14. Is there a good place to > wet a line for a couple of hours? > > Sent from my iPad > > Thank You, > Alan Di Somma > Mesa, Az. > > Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once. > > > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscribe@ > googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ > group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VFB Mail" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VFB Mail" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[VFB] Joyce
I am going to spend the night in Orem on June 14. Is there a good place to wet a line for a couple of hours? Sent from my iPad Thank You, Alan Di Somma Mesa, Az. Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VFB Mail" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [VFB] Joyce- egg patterns?
Joyce, Do you have a preferred size or size range in mind? Do you have a pattern/look that you want to acheive? Do you want a yolk? Tied in or markered? Do you want irridescence? I tie a lot of eggs with a lot of materials. I've tied a lot of 'carpet flies'- giant eggs the size of a golf-ball for Alaskan fishers, who swear by it. McFlyfoam egg-yarn works great for these. I also rope-dub ice-dub, overwrap to a ball, tie off, brush out, and trim round. Makes for a UV flash egg, any size, any color. Takes practice to get the wraps right to make a round ball- kinda like a compressed scud. What makes the difference is whether you fasten the thread down so it cannot turn, and then spin to dub it, or whether you start the dubbing on the thread, pick the bobbin thread out of the holder and just let the bobbin and thread rotate in your hand. If you do the latter, it is a rope dub and you can slide the dubbing up and down at will ... Joyce- I need to sit and watch you do this. SowBug? DonO - Original Message - From: Joyce M Westphal To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope dubbing peacock- vs other techniques- NorVise questions What makes the difference is whether you fasten the thread down so it cannot turn, and then spin to dub it, or whether you start the dubbing on the thread, pick the bobbin thread out of the holder and just let the bobbin and thread rotate in your hand. If you do the latter, it is a rope dub and you can slide the dubbing up and down at will . I often slide the dubbing up to be fatter as I get to the thorax part of the fly but you have to give a few extra spins sometimes if you forget to spin, turn, dub in a counter clockwise position, which I frequently do. I dont have the dubbing skill that Larry does, so I most usually just push the dubbing up the thread to be fatter. Need to improve my techniques. Now, a different question. I HATE tying anything with glo bugs yet need to do a bunch for a eggi jaun fly..I've looked at all the Youtube videos showing how to tie that fly as well as glo bug flies, and theirs turn out great. Mine look like buzz cut blobs of egg yarn. Has anyone done a split thread dubbing for a glo bug and have it come out looking great? Are there any tricks I should know? One tyer says, cut the yarn straight across. the other says to cut on a curve. Im open to suggestions by those who are more in the know than I am. . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Joyce- egg patterns?
Doing some eggi jaun kenobi flies, want the egg to be the front end of a san Jaun worm on the back. The egg size I'm hoping for is about 1/4 inch total diameter, with the pink center and Oregon cheese on the outsides with a bit of pink peeking out. Mine look like flat tops. Do you add the irredescence as you dub or at the final few wraps? If you're doing it by tying in the glo bug yarn, would you use 3 or four pieces of yarn, smaller of course to fit the size of the fly. These are size 10 1120 Diiachi hooks. Help is appreciated. I've watch jean pettijean use a dubbing spinner technique for other flies and wonder does this work for egg patterns as well. I've no problem tying big Fat Alberts for AK. Help is appreciated. Joyce On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote: Joyce, Do you have a preferred size or size range in mind? Do you have a pattern/look that you want to acheive? Do you want a yolk? Tied in or markered? Do you want irridescence? I tie a lot of eggs with a lot of materials. I've tied a lot of 'carpet flies'- giant eggs the size of a golf-ball for Alaskan fishers, who swear by it. McFlyfoam egg-yarn works great for these. I also rope-dub ice-dub, overwrap to a ball, tie off, brush out, and trim round. Makes for a UV flash egg, any size, any color. Takes practice to get the wraps right to make a round ball- kinda like a compressed scud. What makes the difference is whether you fasten the thread down so it cannot turn, and then spin to dub it, or whether you start the dubbing on the thread, pick the bobbin thread out of the holder and just let the bobbin and thread rotate in your hand. If you do the latter, it is a rope dub and you can slide the dubbing up and down at will ... Joyce- I need to sit and watch you do this. SowBug? DonO - Original Message - *From:* Joyce M Westphal joyce...@gmail.com *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, November 04, 2010 12:12 PM *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Rope dubbing peacock- vs other techniques- NorVise questions What makes the difference is whether you fasten the thread down so it cannot turn, and then spin to dub it, or whether you start the dubbing on the thread, pick the bobbin thread out of the holder and just let the bobbin and thread rotate in your hand. If you do the latter, it is a rope dub and you can slide the dubbing up and down at will . I often slide the dubbing up to be fatter as I get to the thorax part of the fly but you have to give a few extra spins sometimes if you forget to spin, turn, dub in a counter clockwise position, which I frequently do. I dont have the dubbing skill that Larry does, so I most usually just push the dubbing up the thread to be fatter. Need to improve my techniques. Now, a different question. I HATE tying anything with glo bugs yet need to do a bunch for a eggi jaun fly..I've looked at all the Youtube videos showing how to tie that fly as well as glo bug flies, and theirs turn out great. Mine look like buzz cut blobs of egg yarn. Has anyone done a split thread dubbing for a glo bug and have it come out looking great? Are there any tricks I should know? One tyer says, cut the yarn straight across. the other says to cut on a curve. Im open to suggestions by those who are more in the know than I am. . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Joyce- dry fly hackles
thanks. Joyce On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote: Joyce, More accurately it would be the 'butt end' that I'm tying down, but that's not totally right, either. With saddle hackles being a foot long (or more) and all of one size along the length, there is no longer a 'small end' or a 'large end'- it's all the 'sweet spot'. One reason to tie the butt end (or bird-side) down is that it's easier to fasten down than the tip end. Second, it is less likely to pull out from under the thread, because of the 'knap' (like a hair follicle being one-directional for friction). Since many flies can be tied from the same hackle, you're rarely really working with the actual 'base' of the hackle, and that is usually trimmed off because of a wee bit of body web at the base. I don't have AK's book, so I'll have to look up what he does. John Schaper and I worked this up when he was the chief hackle grader at Whiting Farms about 8 years ago. The 'new' genetic saddles with the very fine main stems is what allowed us to reverse-hackle flies without laying down hackles. This does not look near as nice using neck hackles, as the stem is thicker. We developed a pattern of hackle overlay that was especially useful in size 18 and smaller 'Winger-style' dry flies. Since Wingers tie in with a thin base stem, it's possible to make the hackling much more dense at the wing tie-in points. So two things were necessary for this approach- the genetic saddle hackles and Winger necks, both of which we had a warehouse full at our disposal. *:*o) Don - Original Message - *From:* Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.com *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, December 01, 2009 8:54 PM *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Joyce- dry fly hackles Don, your fly follows what A K Best does in his book, Production Fly Tying. Do you tie in large end or small end of the feather first? Thanks. Joyce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Joyce- dry fly hackles
Joyce, More accurately it would be the 'butt end' that I'm tying down, but that's not totally right, either. With saddle hackles being a foot long (or more) and all of one size along the length, there is no longer a 'small end' or a 'large end'- it's all the 'sweet spot'. One reason to tie the butt end (or bird-side) down is that it's easier to fasten down than the tip end. Second, it is less likely to pull out from under the thread, because of the 'knap' (like a hair follicle being one-directional for friction). Since many flies can be tied from the same hackle, you're rarely really working with the actual 'base' of the hackle, and that is usually trimmed off because of a wee bit of body web at the base. I don't have AK's book, so I'll have to look up what he does. John Schaper and I worked this up when he was the chief hackle grader at Whiting Farms about 8 years ago. The 'new' genetic saddles with the very fine main stems is what allowed us to reverse-hackle flies without laying down hackles. This does not look near as nice using neck hackles, as the stem is thicker. We developed a pattern of hackle overlay that was especially useful in size 18 and smaller 'Winger-style' dry flies. Since Wingers tie in with a thin base stem, it's possible to make the hackling much more dense at the wing tie-in points. So two things were necessary for this approach- the genetic saddle hackles and Winger necks, both of which we had a warehouse full at our disposal. :o) Don - Original Message - From: Joyce Westphal To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Joyce- dry fly hackles Don, your fly follows what A K Best does in his book, Production Fly Tying. Do you tie in large end or small end of the feather first? Thanks. Joyce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
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[VFB] JOyce,
Wow! I am impressed. My sister is organizing my tying room for me this past few weeks as well. Joyce, Do you think your sister would mind coming to Indiana for a few days to sort out my basement? I've got my normal basement room-full mess, plus all the fly-tying materials for our local Project Healing Waters chapter, plus all the materials from an old friend who passed away this summer. And to top it off, a surgeon in the Southern part of the state passed away in the spring and his widow donated all his tying materials (5 huge boxes) to P.H.W. All this needs sorted, itemized and catalogued too. Frankly, I'm overwhelmed at the moment. :-( I can clean and straighten my stuff - I've got a bunch of plastic shoe-boxes and five 8-foot shelves (full) to store them in. But it's all the additional stuff that's going to be a bear to deal with. Pardon my whining. Just had to moan a little. a. -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
