RE: [VFB] Greenwells Glory

2010-02-04 Thread J McK

Planning on being there on Saturday.

Jerry McKaughan,President
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Jerry- Thank you for the excellent  site showing  Greenwell's Glory history.  
Looks like McPhail ties one of several variations.   'The original fly  does 
not have a tail or even a wire rib or split wings. Very interesting.BTW 
are you going to Sowbug?Dail

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Here is a site for the history and pictures of the fly.

http://www.flyfishinghistory.com/greenwells_glory.htm
 
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Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory

2010-02-04 Thread Dail Graham
Iaia-   Greenwell was an interesting person.   Thanks   Dail


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Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory

2010-02-04 Thread LESTER BELL
In the collection Fisherman's Bounty edited by NIck Lyons, there is a mention 
of this fly on page 26.  I believe in this big water you'd do better with a 
livelier pattern.  Greenwells Glory.
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  Iaia-   Greenwell was an interesting person.   Thanks   Dail


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RE: [VFB] Greenwells Glory

2010-02-02 Thread iain short

and heres greenwell

http://www.keystothepast.info/durhamcc/K2P.nsf/K2PGlossary?readformGLOSSARY=Greenwell,+William

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Here is a site for the history and pictures of the fly.


http://www.flyfishinghistory.com/greenwells_glory.htm

 

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Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory

2010-02-02 Thread Jimmy D. Moore
Jerry, you made it to the list this time.  


JD

J McK wrote:

 
Here is a site for the history and pictures of the fly.


http://www.flyfishinghistory.com/greenwells_glory.htm
 
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Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory

2010-02-01 Thread Joyce Westphal
Thanks..I shall try this. Do you use the gap of the hook as a measure for
wing width? Joyce

On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Joyce,
 The wings can be down, up, outward or inward. It depends on the pattern. In
 any case they are tied in the same way. The biggest mistake most make on
 tying in the wings is that they use the wrong part of the feather. If you
 hold the quill up to a light, you will see a distinct line out from the
 stem. Some call it the Blood line. If the barbs are cut off with the blood
 line on them when tying them in at this point,, the barbs will split. Cut
 the section behind the blood line to use as wings. If you leave these on,
 tie in the wings behind this line, it is actually the softer part of the
 barbs. In most cases, use a marched set of quills, right and left. Cut an
 equal number of barbs from each side, count the barbs and use a dubbing
 needle to separate them. Match them up either up, down, in or out. Place
 them in position and bring the thread up through your holding fingers and
 drop the bobbin. This will put a light crease in the barbs. Sometime taking
 a finger nail and pressing it where the thread is, forming a deeper crease
 will help, Now pull straight down on the thread and bring it around back in
 the crease while squeezing the wing as tight as you can with your two
 fingers. Make a second wrap and the wings should be set. If you notice any
 rolling off to one side, make the adjustment before the second thread wrap.
 Another way to make the wing from a large feather ts to cut a wide section
 of barbs from one side. Then fold them so that they match. In or out, up
 or down, tie them in as above.. I hope this helps
 If not, let me know.
 Tony

 --- On *Sun, 1/31/10, Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.com* wrote:


 From: Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.com

 Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory
 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
 Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 7:57 PM


 OK, since you've mentioned wets, I'd be interested in any tips or tricks
 for tying in wet fly wings. Mine always look a mashed mess. Do you point the
 ends up or down? I await your reply. I'm thinking I might just have to try a
 few. Joyce

 On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Anthony Spezio 
 bambot...@yahoo.comhttp://mc/compose?to=bambot...@yahoo.com
  wrote:

 Looks like there will be three of us tying the old wet flies.
 Tony

 --- On *Sun, 1/31/10, Dail Graham 
 d...@positech.nethttp://mc/compose?to=d...@positech.net
 * wrote:


 From: Dail Graham d...@positech.nethttp://mc/compose?to=d...@positech.net
 

 Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory
 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=vfb-m...@googlegroups.com
 Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 12:33 PM


 Nevulle-  Thank you.  I have some furnace hackle.   I was confused with
 the term Greenwell.  I am going to tie some wets at Sowbug and wanted to
 have the right materialsDail

 - Original Message -
  *From:* Neville Gosling http://mc/compose?to=nev.gosl...@shaw.ca
 *To:* 
 vfb-mail@googlegroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=vfb-m...@googlegroups.com
 *Sent:* Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:07 AM
 *Subject:* RE: [VFB] Greenwells Glory

 Dail:

 It is a furnace hackle. Normally they are light to mid brown with a dark
 centre section.

 Neville (Nev) Gosling
 Greater Vancouver,
 B.C. Canada
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 *On Behalf Of *Dail Graham
 *Sent:* January 30, 2010 10:18 PM
 *To:* 
 vfb-mail@googlegroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=vfb-m...@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory

  pacres-  yes tied by McPhail.What is greenwells feather?   I can not
 find any listing my catalogs.  Thanks for answering.   Dail

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  *From:* Pacres http://mc/compose?to=pac...@gmail.com
 *To:* 
 vfb-mail@googlegroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=vfb-m...@googlegroups.com
 *Sent:* Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:42 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory

 Was this the video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7akiUJmLXM

 Materials are listed at the begining.




 On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Dail Graham 
 d...@positech.nethttp://mc/compose?to=d...@positech.net
  wrote:

  Help   I saw a U Tube video  on tying  a wet fly called Greenwell's
 Glory.  The recipe was not clear.   What feathers are used on this fly?   I
 know someone on this list has the answer.  Thanks,   Dail Graham


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Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory

2010-02-01 Thread Anthony Spezio
Joyce,
Yes, that is a good start. the lenght is normally to about 1/2 of the tail from 
behind the hook eye.
Tony

--- On Mon, 2/1/10, Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, February 1, 2010, 5:27 AM

Thanks..I shall try this. Do you use the gap of the hook as a measure for wing 
width? Joyce

On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote:

Joyce,
The wings can be down, up, outward or inward. It depends on the pattern. In any 
case they are tied in the same way. The biggest mistake most make on tying in 
the wings is that they use the wrong part of the feather. If you hold the quill 
up to a light, you will see a distinct line out from the stem. Some call it the 
Blood line. If the barbs are cut off with the blood line on them when tying 
them in at this point,, the barbs will split. Cut the section behind the blood 
line to use as wings. If you leave these on, tie in the wings behind this line, 
it is actually the softer part of the barbs. In most cases, use a marched set 
of quills, right and left. Cut an equal number of barbs from each side, count 
the barbs and use a dubbing needle to separate them. Match them up either up, 
down, in or out. Place them in position and bring the thread up through your
 holding fingers and drop the bobbin. This will put a light crease in the 
barbs. Sometime taking a finger nail and pressing it where the thread is, 
forming a deeper crease will help, Now pull straight down on the thread and 
bring it around back in the crease while squeezing the wing as tight as you can 
with your two fingers. Make a second wrap and the wings should be set. If you 
notice any rolling off to one side, make the adjustment before the second 
thread wrap. Another way to make the wing from a large feather ts to cut a wide 
section of barbs from one side. Then fold them so that they match. In or out, 
up or down, tie them in as above.. I hope this helps

If not, let me know.
Tony

--- On Sun, 1/31/10, Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Joyce Westphal
 westpha...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com

Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 7:57 PM

OK, since you've mentioned wets, I'd be interested in any tips or tricks for 
tying in wet fly wings. Mine always look a mashed mess. Do you point the ends 
up or down? I await your reply. I'm thinking I might just have to try a few. 
Joyce



On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote:



Looks like there will be three of us tying the old wet flies.
Tony  

--- On Sun, 1/31/10, Dail Graham d...@positech.net wrote:



From: Dail Graham d...@positech.net

Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory

To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 12:33 PM



 
 

Nevulle-  Thank you.  I have some furnace 
hackle.   I was confused with the term Greenwell.  I am going to 
tie some wets at Sowbug and wanted to have the right materials    
Dail

  - Original Message - 
  

From: 
  Neville 
  Gosling 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 


  Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:07 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [VFB] Greenwells Glory
  

  Dail:
   
  It is a furnace hackle. Normally they are light to mid brown 
  with a dark centre section. 
  Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver,
B.C. Canada 
  
  
  
  From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dail 
  Graham
Sent: January 30, 2010 10:18 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: 
  Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory


  

pacres-  yes tied by 
McPhail.    What is greenwells feather?   I can not 
find any listing my catalogs.  Thanks for answering.   
Dail

  - Original Message - 
  

From: 
  Pacres 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  
  Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 
  11:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells 
  Glory
  

  Was this the video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7akiUJmLXM
   
  Materials are listed at the begining. 
   
  

 
  On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Dail Graham d...@positech.net 
wrote:

  

Help   I saw a U Tube 
video  on tying  a wet fly called Greenwell's Glory.  The 
recipe was not clear.   What feathers are used on this 
fly?   I know someone on this list has the answer.  
Thanks,   Dail Graham

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Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory

2010-02-01 Thread Dail Graham
Allen- thanks for the contact.  I will order some.  Shops here in MO do not 
carry all the colors.   Dail
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From: Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net

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Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory



U.S. Pearsall's silk thread source including primrose yellow:

http://www.jsflyfishing.com/

Type Pearsalls into the search  box on the left. and click Go

Select your color under Gossamer Silk Thread by Pearsalls

Or if you prefer, get their collection of 22 colors for only $69.48 (plus 
shipping, of course).  g


Hope this helps.

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Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory

2010-01-31 Thread Dail Graham
Nevulle-  Thank you.  I have some furnace hackle.   I was confused with the 
term Greenwell.  I am going to tie some wets at Sowbug and wanted to have the 
right materialsDail
  - Original Message - 
  From: Neville Gosling 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:07 AM
  Subject: RE: [VFB] Greenwells Glory


  Dail:

  It is a furnace hackle. Normally they are light to mid brown with a dark 
centre section. 
  Neville (Nev) Gosling
  Greater Vancouver,
  B.C. Canada 


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  Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory


pacres-  yes tied by McPhail.What is greenwells feather?   I can not 
find any listing my catalogs.  Thanks for answering.   Dail
  - Original Message - 
  From: Pacres 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory


  Was this the video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7akiUJmLXM

  Materials are listed at the begining. 



   
  On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Dail Graham d...@positech.net wrote:

Help   I saw a U Tube video  on tying  a wet fly called Greenwell's 
Glory.  The recipe was not clear.   What feathers are used on this fly?   I 
know someone on this list has the answer.  Thanks,   Dail Graham


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Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory Variations

2010-01-31 Thread Dail Graham
Iain-I was sure you would be able to help me.   I really appreciate the 
patterns and now I can get to work.   Now unconfused  I will retreat back under 
my rock.Thanks .Dail Graham/MO
  - Original Message - 
  From: iain short 
  To: VFB-new 
  Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:59 AM
  Subject: [VFB] Greenwells Glory Variations


  Pearsalls silk is specified because it changes colour when wet while modern 
synthetic threads do not.  Same applies to all the old silk thread/silk floss 
bodied flies - partridge  orange, snipe  purple etc ... you will catch more 
fish using silk



  Greenwells Glory (Veniard)
  Hook: 10-16 down eyed
  Thread: Primrose Pearsalls Silk well waxed with cobbler's wax (Try solid 
block beeswax)
  Tail: Light Furnace cock
  Body: Tying silk
  Rib: Fine gold wire
  Hackle: Light Furnace cock
  Wing: Darkest starling or hen blackbird

  Greenwells Glory (W.H.Lewrie)
  Hook: 10-16 down eyed
  Body: Primrose Pearsalls Silk well waxed with cobbler's wax ribbed with fine 
gold wire
  Hackle: Dark Furnace Hen
  Wing: Hen blackbird

  Greenwells Glory (Francis Francis)
  Hook: 7-12 down eyed
  Body: Dark olive silk well waxed with cobbler's wax (Try solid block beeswax)
  Rib: Fine gold wire
  Hackle: Small dark Coch-y-bonddhu
  Wing: Woodcock

  Greenwells Glory (Skews)
  Hook: 14-16 down eyed
  Tail: three fibers as hackle
  Body: Primrose Pearsalls Silk waxed with clear wax  ribbed with fine gold 
wire
  Hackle: Greenish yellow-olive cock
  Wing: Pale to dark starling

  Greenwells Glory (Tweedside pattern) (also Edmonds  Lee)
  Hook:14 down eyed
  Body: Primrose Pearsalls Silk well waxed with cobbler's wax ribbed with fine 
gold wire
  Hackle: Coch-y-bonddhu
  Wing: Hen blackbird tied in a bunch and split

  Greenwells Nymph (Roberts)
  Hook: 10-16 down eyed
  Tail: Coch-y-bonddhu
  Body: Primrose Pearsalls Silk well waxed with cobbler's wax ribbed with fine 
gold wire
  Thorax: Grey or blue-grey dubbing
  Wing case: Grouse hackle with the tips turned down as legs

  Greenwells Spider
  Hook: 12-16 down eyed
  Body: Primrose Pearsalls Silk well waxed with cobbler's wax ribbed with fine 
gold wire
  Hackle: Coch-y-bonddhu tied swept back to reach point of hook




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Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory

2010-01-31 Thread Anthony Spezio
Looks like there will be three of us tying the old wet flies.
Tony

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Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 12:33 PM



 
 

Nevulle-  Thank you.  I have some furnace 
hackle.   I was confused with the term Greenwell.  I am going to 
tie some wets at Sowbug and wanted to have the right materials    
Dail

  - Original Message - 
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  Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:07 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [VFB] Greenwells Glory
  

  Dail:
   
  It is a furnace hackle. Normally they are light to mid brown 
  with a dark centre section. 
  Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver,
B.C. Canada 
  
  
  
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Sent: January 30, 2010 10:18 PM
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  Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory


  

pacres-  yes tied by 
McPhail.    What is greenwells feather?   I can not 
find any listing my catalogs.  Thanks for answering.   
Dail

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  Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 
  11:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells 
  Glory
  

  Was this the video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7akiUJmLXM
   
  Materials are listed at the begining. 
   
  

 
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Help   I saw a U Tube 
video  on tying  a wet fly called Greenwell's Glory.  The 
recipe was not clear.   What feathers are used on this 
fly?   I know someone on this list has the answer.  
Thanks,   Dail Graham

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Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory

2010-01-31 Thread Dail Graham
Yea Tony-  I have noticed that a lot of tiers do soft hackles but not many do 
the old time wets.  I thought maybe a few old wets  might be interesting.  See 
you soon.   Dail
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  Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory


Looks like there will be three of us tying the old wet flies.
Tony

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  From: Dail Graham d...@positech.net
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 12:33 PM


  Nevulle-  Thank you.  I have some furnace hackle.   I was confused 
with the term Greenwell.  I am going to tie some wets at Sowbug and wanted to 
have the right materialsDail
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From: Neville Gosling 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:07 AM
Subject: RE: [VFB] Greenwells Glory


Dail:

It is a furnace hackle. Normally they are light to mid brown with a 
dark centre section. 
Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver,
B.C. Canada 



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On Behalf Of Dail Graham
Sent: January 30, 2010 10:18 PM
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Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory


  pacres-  yes tied by McPhail.What is greenwells feather?   I 
can not find any listing my catalogs.  Thanks for answering.   Dail
- Original Message - 
From: Pacres 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:42 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory


Was this the video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7akiUJmLXM

Materials are listed at the begining. 



 
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d...@positech.net wrote:

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Greenwell's Glory.  The recipe was not clear.   What feathers are used on this 
fly?   I know someone on this list has the answer.  Thanks,   Dail Graham


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Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory

2010-01-31 Thread Anthony Spezio
I have not tied any in a long time, I just got the bug to do it again. The only 
problem is when I start tying someone comes by and wants a Chili Pepper of a 
Froggie. and ther goes all my plans.
Tony

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From: Dail Graham d...@positech.net
Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 6:03 PM



 
Yea Tony-  I have noticed that a lot of tiers 
do soft hackles but not many do the old time wets.  I thought maybe a few 
old wets  might be interesting.  See you soon.   
Dail

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  Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 4:35 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory
  

  


  Looks like there will be three of us tying the old wet 
flies.
Tony

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wrote:


From: 
  Dail Graham d...@positech.net
Subject: 
  Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: 
  Sunday, January 31, 2010, 12:33 PM


  
  

  Nevulle-  Thank you.  I have 
  some furnace hackle.   I was confused with the term 
  Greenwell.  I am going to tie some wets at Sowbug and wanted to 
  have the right materials    Dail
  
- 
Original Message - 
From: 
Neville Gosling 
To: 
vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 

Sent: 
Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:07 AM
Subject: 
RE: [VFB] Greenwells Glory


Dail:
 
It is a furnace hackle. Normally 
they are light to mid brown with a dark centre section. 
Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver,
B.C. 
Canada 


From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dail 
Graham
Sent: January 30, 2010 10:18 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: 
Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory



  
  pacres-  yes tied by 
  McPhail.    What is greenwells feather?   
  I can not find any listing my catalogs.  Thanks for 
  answering.   Dail
  
- 
Original Message - 
From: 
Pacres 
To: 
vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 

Sent: 
Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:42 PM
Subject: 
Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory


Was this the video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7akiUJmLXM
 
Materials are listed at the begining. 
 


 
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Graham d...@positech.net 
wrote:


  
  Help   I saw a U 
  Tube video  on tying  a wet fly called Greenwell's 
  Glory.  The recipe was not clear.   What 
  feathers are used on this fly?   I know someone on 
  this list has the answer.  Thanks,   Dail 
  Graham

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Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory

2010-01-31 Thread Dail Graham
Tony -Best laid plans often go astray when your famous.  Dail
  - Original Message - 
  From: Anthony Spezio 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 7:25 PM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory


I have not tied any in a long time, I just got the bug to do it again. 
The only problem is when I start tying someone comes by and wants a Chili 
Pepper of a Froggie. and ther goes all my plans.
Tony

--- On Sun, 1/31/10, Dail Graham d...@positech.net wrote:


  From: Dail Graham d...@positech.net
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 6:03 PM


  Yea Tony-  I have noticed that a lot of tiers do soft hackles but not 
many do the old time wets.  I thought maybe a few old wets  might be 
interesting.  See you soon.   Dail
- Original Message - 
From: Anthony Spezio 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory


  Looks like there will be three of us tying the old wet flies.
  Tony

  --- On Sun, 1/31/10, Dail Graham d...@positech.net wrote:


From: Dail Graham d...@positech.net
Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 12:33 PM


Nevulle-  Thank you.  I have some furnace hackle.   I was 
confused with the term Greenwell.  I am going to tie some wets at Sowbug and 
wanted to have the right materialsDail
  - Original Message - 
  From: Neville Gosling 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:07 AM
  Subject: RE: [VFB] Greenwells Glory


  Dail:

  It is a furnace hackle. Normally they are light to mid 
brown with a dark centre section. 
  Neville (Nev) Gosling
  Greater Vancouver,
  B.C. Canada 


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  Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory


pacres-  yes tied by McPhail.What is greenwells 
feather?   I can not find any listing my catalogs.  Thanks for answering.   Dail
  - Original Message - 
  From: Pacres 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory


  Was this the video? 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7akiUJmLXM

  Materials are listed at the begining. 



   
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d...@positech.net wrote:

Help   I saw a U Tube video  on tying  a wet fly 
called Greenwell's Glory.  The recipe was not clear.   What feathers are used 
on this fly?   I know someone on this list has the answer.  Thanks,   Dail 
Graham


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Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory

2010-01-31 Thread Joyce Westphal
OK, since you've mentioned wets, I'd be interested in any tips or tricks for
tying in wet fly wings. Mine always look a mashed mess. Do you point the
ends up or down? I await your reply. I'm thinking I might just have to try a
few. Joyce

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 Looks like there will be three of us tying the old wet flies.
 Tony

 --- On *Sun, 1/31/10, Dail Graham d...@positech.net* wrote:


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 Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory
 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
 Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 12:33 PM


 Nevulle-  Thank you.  I have some furnace hackle.   I was confused with the
 term Greenwell.  I am going to tie some wets at Sowbug and wanted to have
 the right materialsDail

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Neville Gosling http://mc/compose?to=nev.gosl...@shaw.ca
 *To:* 
 vfb-mail@googlegroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=vfb-m...@googlegroups.com
 *Sent:* Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:07 AM
 *Subject:* RE: [VFB] Greenwells Glory

 Dail:

 It is a furnace hackle. Normally they are light to mid brown with a dark
 centre section.

 Neville (Nev) Gosling
 Greater Vancouver,
 B.C. Canada
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 *To:* 
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 *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory

  pacres-  yes tied by McPhail.What is greenwells feather?   I can not
 find any listing my catalogs.  Thanks for answering.   Dail

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 *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory

 Was this the video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7akiUJmLXM

 Materials are listed at the begining.




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Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory

2010-01-31 Thread Anthony Spezio
Joyce,
The wings can be down, up, outward or inward. It depends on the pattern. In any 
case they are tied in the same way. The biggest mistake most make on tying in 
the wings is that they use the wrong part of the feather. If you hold the quill 
up to a light, you will see a distinct line out from the stem. Some call it the 
Blood line. If the barbs are cut off with the blood line on them when tying 
them in at this point,, the barbs will split. Cut the section behind the blood 
line to use as wings. If you leave these on, tie in the wings behind this line, 
it is actually the softer part of the barbs. In most cases, use a marched set 
of quills, right and left. Cut an equal number of barbs from each side, count 
the barbs and use a dubbing needle to separate them. Match them up either up, 
down, in or out. Place them in position and bring the thread up through your 
holding fingers and drop the bobbin. This will put a light crease in the barbs. 
Sometime taking a finger
 nail and pressing it where the thread is, forming a deeper crease will help, 
Now pull straight down on the thread and bring it around back in the crease 
while squeezing the wing as tight as you can with your two fingers. Make a 
second wrap and the wings should be set. If you notice any rolling off to one 
side, make the adjustment before the second thread wrap. Another way to make 
the wing from a large feather ts to cut a wide section of barbs from one side. 
Then fold them so that they match. In or out, up or down, tie them in as 
above.. I hope this helps
If not, let me know.
Tony

--- On Sun, 1/31/10, Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 7:57 PM

OK, since you've mentioned wets, I'd be interested in any tips or tricks for 
tying in wet fly wings. Mine always look a mashed mess. Do you point the ends 
up or down? I await your reply. I'm thinking I might just have to try a few. 
Joyce


On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote:

Looks like there will be three of us tying the old wet flies.
Tony  

--- On Sun, 1/31/10, Dail Graham d...@positech.net wrote:


From: Dail Graham d...@positech.net
Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory

To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 12:33 PM



 
 

Nevulle-  Thank you.  I have some furnace 
hackle.   I was confused with the term Greenwell.  I am going to 
tie some wets at Sowbug and wanted to have the right materials    
Dail

  - Original Message - 
  
From: 
  Neville 
  Gosling 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:07 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [VFB] Greenwells Glory
  

  Dail:
   
  It is a furnace hackle. Normally they are light to mid brown 
  with a dark centre section. 
  Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver,
B.C. Canada 
  
  
  
  From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dail 
  Graham
Sent: January 30, 2010 10:18 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: 
  Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory


  

pacres-  yes tied by 
McPhail.    What is greenwells feather?   I can not 
find any listing my catalogs.  Thanks for answering.   
Dail

  - Original Message - 
  
From: 
  Pacres 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  
  Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 
  11:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells 
  Glory
  

  Was this the video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7akiUJmLXM
   
  Materials are listed at the begining. 
   
  

 
  On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Dail Graham d...@positech.net 
wrote:

  

Help   I saw a U Tube 
video  on tying  a wet fly called Greenwell's Glory.  The 
recipe was not clear.   What feathers are used on this 
fly?   I know someone on this list has the answer.  
Thanks,   Dail Graham

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Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory

2010-01-31 Thread Anthony Spezio
Famous, No way, just an ordinary guy who ties flies people like. They catch 
fish too. LOL
Tony

--- On Sun, 1/31/10, Dail Graham d...@positech.net wrote:

From: Dail Graham d...@positech.net
Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 7:56 PM



 
Tony -Best laid plans often go astray when your 
famous.  Dail

  - Original Message - 
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  Anthony 
  Spezio 
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  Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 7:25 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory
  

  


  I have not tied any in a long time, I just got the bug to 
do it again. The only problem is when I start tying someone comes by 
and 
wants a Chili Pepper of a Froggie. and ther goes all my 
plans.
Tony

--- On Sun, 1/31/10, Dail Graham d...@positech.net 
wrote:


From: 
  Dail Graham d...@positech.net
Subject: 
  Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: 
  Sunday, January 31, 2010, 6:03 PM


  
  Yea Tony-  I have noticed that a lot 
  of tiers do soft hackles but not many do the old time wets.  I 
  thought maybe a few old wets  might be interesting.  See you 
  soon.   Dail
  
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From: 
Anthony Spezio 
To: 
vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 

Sent: 
Sunday, January 31, 2010 4:35 PM
Subject: 
Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory



  
  
Looks like there will be three of us tying the 
  old wet flies.
Tony

--- On Sun, 1/31/10, Dail 
  Graham d...@positech.net 
  wrote:

  
From: 
Dail Graham d...@positech.net
Subject: 
Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: 
Sunday, January 31, 2010, 12:33 PM





Nevulle-  Thank you.  
I have some furnace hackle.   I was confused with 
the term Greenwell.  I am going to tie some wets at 
Sowbug and wanted to have the right 
materials    Dail

  - 
  Original Message - 
  From: 
  Neville 
  Gosling 
  To: 
  vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: 
  Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:07 AM
  Subject: 
  RE: [VFB] Greenwells Glory
  

  Dail:
   
  It is a furnace hackle. Normally they are light 
  to mid brown with a dark centre section. 
  Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater 
  Vancouver,
B.C. Canada 
  
  
  From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
  Dail Graham
Sent: January 30, 2010 10:18 
  PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: 
  Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory


  

pacres-  yes tied by 
McPhail.    What is greenwells 
feather?   I can not find any listing my 
catalogs.  Thanks for answering.   
Dail

  - 
  Original Message - 
  From: 
  Pacres 
  
  To: 
  vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: 
  Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:42 PM
  Subject: 
  Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory
  

  Was this the video? 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7akiUJmLXM
   
  Materials are listed at the begining. 
   
  

 
  On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 12:03 
  AM, Dail Graham d...@positech.net 
  wrote:

  

Help   I 
saw a U Tube video  on tying  a wet fly 
called Greenwell's Glory.  The recipe was not 
clear.   What feathers are used

RE: [VFB] Greenwells Glory

2010-01-30 Thread Neville Gosling
Dail:
 
It is a furnace hackle. Normally they are light to mid brown with a dark
centre section. 

Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver,
B.C. Canada 

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From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Dail Graham
Sent: January 30, 2010 10:18 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory



pacres-  yes tied by McPhail.What is greenwells feather?   I can not
find any listing my catalogs.  Thanks for answering.   Dail

- Original Message - 
From: Pacres mailto:pac...@gmail.com  
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:42 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory

Was this the video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7akiUJmLXM
 
Materials are listed at the begining. 
 


 
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Dail Graham d...@positech.net wrote:


Help   I saw a U Tube video  on tying  a wet fly called Greenwell's Glory.
The recipe was not clear.   What feathers are used on this fly?   I know
someone on this list has the answer.  Thanks,   Dail Graham


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