Re: [VFB] Trickle charger for my marine deep cycle battery

[Chuck Alexander]

Gary:Thanks a lot. Yes, it is a Marine Deep Cycle battery, but they just don’t 
seem to last as long as they used to for some reason (I think I read it’s 
because the lead plates are thinner than they used to be, therefore the 
sulfides build up them keeping them from fully charging) and they are sooo 
expensive. Chuck

From: Gary Webb 
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 11:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [VFB] Trickle charger for my marine deep cycle battery

Hi Chuck,


>From working in a hospital  I've had the opportunity to become familiar with 
>batteries of every variety from A (alkaline) to Z (zinc-air).

My experience with lead-acid batteries is this:  They do well when they are on 
a trickle charge all the time.  They don't do well with being

completely discharged, except the ones designed as "deep cycle"..  But this 
website is much smarter than me and has info about charging levels. Hope it 
helps.  
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_the_lead_acid_battery


Gary Webb



On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 5:13 PM, Chuck Alexander 
 wrote: 
  Folks: This coming Spring (barring more health problems etc) my wife and I 
plan  to go fishing at LEAST a cpl times per week. My question is about a 
trickle charger for my deep cycle battery I use to power my trolling motors (we 
use two to get to where across the lake and back,then the foot controlled one 
to troll the shoreline hunting for bluegills and/or bass “on the bed”. Anyway,, 
till now, I have to heft my 50-60 pound battery into my workshop, put it on the 
2 amp setting on my 2/6/55/jumpstart big battery charger, then lug it back into 
the back of the boat to go fishing again. It’s been either that, or risking the 
charger getting rained on and ruined, or electrocuting somebody. Anyway, this 
charger from Harbor freight in the hyperlink below is a 3/4 amp trickle 
charger/maintainer.  

  What I’m wondering is (even if it takes a cpl days to do it) is will this 
little charger charger my 105 amp hour battery?? The manual with it says it’s 
for batteries that are from 5 to 125 ah batteries. The 125 is more than the max 
105 listed, but I have read where ppl say YES it will charge my battery, and 
others say NO it won’t. Truth probably lies in the middle as in like I said, I 
think it will, but may take up to a cpl days to do so, depending on how drained 
the battery is. Anybody here tried a charger like this?? Reason I want this is 
because I plan to make a “bass boat” out of my jon boat be decking it with 
plywood in the front and back, so we have a place to stand up while fishing as 
my back starts to hurt if I sit all day, so I plan to “permanently” mount this 
charger on my stern plywood piece, so that all I have to do it run the 
extension cord to the boat and let er rip. Thanks a lot. Chuck

  
http://www.harborfreight.com/12-volt-deluxe-battery-maintainer-and-float-charger-61911.html
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Re: [VFB] Trickle charger for my marine deep cycle battery

[Gary Webb]

Hi Chuck,

>From working in a hospital  I've had the opportunity to become familiar
with batteries of every variety from A (alkaline) to Z (zinc-air).
My experience with lead-acid batteries is this:  They do well when they are
on a trickle charge all the time.  They don't do well with being
completely discharged, except the ones designed as "deep cycle"..  But this
website is much smarter than me and has info about charging levels. Hope it
helps.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_the_lead_acid_battery

Gary Webb


On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 5:13 PM, Chuck Alexander <
chuckalexan...@centurylink.net> wrote:
>
>   Folks: This coming Spring (barring more health problems etc) my wife
> and I plan  to go fishing at LEAST a cpl times per week. My question is
> about a trickle charger for my deep cycle battery I use to power my
> trolling motors (we use two to get to where across the lake and back,then
> the foot controlled one to troll the shoreline hunting for bluegills and/or
> bass “on the bed”. Anyway,, till now, I have to heft my 50-60 pound battery
> into my workshop, put it on the 2 amp setting on my 2/6/55/jumpstart big
> battery charger, then lug it back into the back of the boat to go fishing
> again. It’s been either that, or risking the charger getting rained on and
> ruined, or electrocuting somebody. Anyway, this charger from Harbor freight
> in the hyperlink below is a 3/4 amp trickle charger/maintainer.
>
> What I’m wondering is (even if it takes a cpl days to do it) is will this
> little charger charger my 105 amp hour battery?? The manual with it says
> it’s for batteries that are from 5 to 125 ah batteries. The 125 is more
> than the max 105 listed, but I have read where ppl say YES it will charge
> my battery, and others say NO it won’t. Truth probably lies in the middle
> as in like I said, I think it will, but may take up to a cpl days to do so,
> depending on how drained the battery is. Anybody here tried a charger like
> this?? Reason I want this is because I plan to make a “bass boat” out of my
> jon boat be decking it with plywood in the front and back, so we have a
> place to stand up while fishing as my back starts to hurt if I sit all day,
> so I plan to “permanently” mount this charger on my stern plywood piece, so
> that all I have to do it run the extension cord to the boat and let er rip.
> Thanks a lot. Chuck
>
>
> http://www.harborfreight.com/12-volt-deluxe-battery-maintainer-and-float-charger-61911.html
>
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Re: [VFB] Trickle charger for my marine deep cycle battery

[Chuck Alexander]

Neville: I was just reading those reviews and you’re right. Paying more for a 
better quality charger would be the right thing to do I think. Thanks, Chuck

From: Neville Gosling 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 5:46 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [VFB] Trickle charger for my marine deep cycle battery

HI Chuck:

I suggest that you look at the reviews by purchasers of that device - when I 
looked they were not very good and I settled for a more expensive Deltran 
battery maintainer which does the job well. If I have used the battery a lot 
and it is depleted, I use a Minn Kota 10 amp charger first although the little 
Deltran will bring it up to full power after a few days. Deltran does make a 
waterproof charger for boat installation which is more $. I would not use the 
Habor freight in the rain or even my Deltran.

Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver
BC  Canada



  On Dec 16, 2014, at 3:13 PM, Chuck Alexander  
wrote:

  Folks: This coming Spring (barring more health problems etc) my wife and I 
plan  to go fishing at LEAST a cpl times per week. My question is about a 
trickle charger for my deep cycle battery I use to power my trolling motors (we 
use two to get to where across the lake and back,then the foot controlled one 
to troll the shoreline hunting for bluegills and/or bass “on the bed”. Anyway,, 
till now, I have to heft my 50-60 pound battery into my workshop, put it on the 
2 amp setting on my 2/6/55/jumpstart big battery charger, then lug it back into 
the back of the boat to go fishing again. It’s been either that, or risking the 
charger getting rained on and ruined, or electrocuting somebody. Anyway, this 
charger from Harbor freight in the hyperlink below is a 3/4 amp trickle 
charger/maintainer.  

  What I’m wondering is (even if it takes a cpl days to do it) is will this 
little charger charger my 105 amp hour battery?? The manual with it says it’s 
for batteries that are from 5 to 125 ah batteries. The 125 is more than the max 
105 listed, but I have read where ppl say YES it will charge my battery, and 
others say NO it won’t. Truth probably lies in the middle as in like I said, I 
think it will, but may take up to a cpl days to do so, depending on how drained 
the battery is. Anybody here tried a charger like this?? Reason I want this is 
because I plan to make a “bass boat” out of my jon boat be decking it with 
plywood in the front and back, so we have a place to stand up while fishing as 
my back starts to hurt if I sit all day, so I plan to “permanently” mount this 
charger on my stern plywood piece, so that all I have to do it run the 
extension cord to the boat and let er rip. Thanks a lot. Chuck

  
http://www.harborfreight.com/12-volt-deluxe-battery-maintainer-and-float-charger-61911.html

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Re: [VFB] Trickle charger for my marine deep cycle battery

[Chuck Alexander]

Neville: Thanks. I'll recheck but I thought I saw where the cheaper ones 
were only 1/4 or 1/2 amp charge rate. But you're right, 14 volts would be a 
little hot for the battery and could cause an explosion. Chuck


-Original Message- 
From: Neville Gosling

Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 6:00 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Trickle charger for my marine deep cycle battery

I just checked and noticed that the unit you are referring to Harbor Freight 
is a more expensive deluxe model of the one that I was considering that was 
not listed before. The cheaper ones go on sale with their coupons for about 
6 bucks from time to time. I checked the reviews and it seems that the 
reviews have in fact changed. When I checked, there was a concern that the 
output of the device was over 14 volts and could "cook" the battery rather 
tan maintain it. They are designed as a battery maintainer rather than 
battery charger.




Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver
BC  Canada



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Re: [VFB] Trickle charger for my marine deep cycle battery

[Neville Gosling]

HI Chuck:

I suggest that you look at the reviews by purchasers of that device - when I 
looked they were not very good and I settled for a more expensive Deltran 
battery maintainer which does the job well. If I have used the battery a lot 
and it is depleted, I use a Minn Kota 10 amp charger first although the little 
Deltran will bring it up to full power after a few days. Deltran does make a 
waterproof charger for boat installation which is more $. I would not use the 
Habor freight in the rain or even my Deltran.

Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver
BC  Canada


> On Dec 16, 2014, at 3:13 PM, Chuck Alexander  
> wrote:
> 
> Folks: This coming Spring (barring more health problems etc) my wife and I 
> plan  to go fishing at LEAST a cpl times per week. My question is about a 
> trickle charger for my deep cycle battery I use to power my trolling motors 
> (we use two to get to where across the lake and back,then the foot controlled 
> one to troll the shoreline hunting for bluegills and/or bass “on the bed”. 
> Anyway,, till now, I have to heft my 50-60 pound battery into my workshop, 
> put it on the 2 amp setting on my 2/6/55/jumpstart big battery charger, then 
> lug it back into the back of the boat to go fishing again. It’s been either 
> that, or risking the charger getting rained on and ruined, or electrocuting 
> somebody. Anyway, this charger from Harbor freight in the hyperlink below is 
> a 3/4 amp trickle charger/maintainer. 
>  
> What I’m wondering is (even if it takes a cpl days to do it) is will this 
> little charger charger my 105 amp hour battery?? The manual with it says it’s 
> for batteries that are from 5 to 125 ah batteries. The 125 is more than the 
> max 105 listed, but I have read where ppl say YES it will charge my battery, 
> and others say NO it won’t. Truth probably lies in the middle as in like I 
> said, I think it will, but may take up to a cpl days to do so, depending on 
> how drained the battery is. Anybody here tried a charger like this?? Reason I 
> want this is because I plan to make a “bass boat” out of my jon boat be 
> decking it with plywood in the front and back, so we have a place to stand up 
> while fishing as my back starts to hurt if I sit all day, so I plan to 
> “permanently” mount this charger on my stern plywood piece, so that all I 
> have to do it run the extension cord to the boat and let er rip. Thanks a 
> lot. Chuck
>  
> http://www.harborfreight.com/12-volt-deluxe-battery-maintainer-and-float-charger-61911.html
>  
> 
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