[videoblogging] Re: Criticism

2007-12-25 Thread cfmccaleb
Steve and Zadi are pioneering not only a format, but the very landscape of New Media. They produce an excellent, entertaining show about modern culture, and I feel they shouldn't be forced to defend their professionalism and talent. Chris McCaleb --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com,

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Criticism

2007-12-25 Thread Jay dedman
Steve and Zadi are pioneering not only a format, but the very landscape of New Media. They produce an excellent, entertaining show about modern culture, and I feel they shouldn't be forced to defend their professionalism and talent. Agreed. I'm sorry that if anyone got a different

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Criticism

2007-12-25 Thread Andrew Baron
Here, here. I consider Epic-Fu to be THE break-out hit of the year. On Dec 25, 2007, at 2:03 PM, cfmccaleb wrote: Steve and Zadi are pioneering not only a format, but the very landscape of New Media. They produce an excellent, entertaining show about modern culture, and I feel they

[videoblogging] Re: Criticism

2007-12-25 Thread Steve Watkins
Well thats pretty bad. If we are going to talk about 'moral aspects' of vlogging, then Id say the stuff you've mentioned is just as important as advertising standards. Blogging and vlogging has the potential to repeat a lot of the worst of traditional journalism. Its good to give warning to

[videoblogging] Re: Criticism

2007-12-25 Thread Steve Watkins
Maybe arguing is one of the easiest forms of collaboration or conversation, and thats why such things always generate the most traffic. It also hints that vlogging will never lead to the death of the sitcom or cheesy drama ;) Im no language specialist but I wouldnt be at all surprised if

[videoblogging] Re: Criticism

2007-12-25 Thread Cheryl
Steve, you are 100% correct. I meant to state that in my comments section when I originally added that I contacted you, but somehow omitted it, and for that I emphatically apologize. I want to point out that I did make a correction and disclose that fact in my comments yesterday - the comment is

[videoblogging] Re: Criticism

2007-12-25 Thread Steve Woolf
Seems like everything's been said that needs to be said, at least as far as the EPIC-FU / advertising topic goes. We appreciate all the clarification and support of the group. As we said in our response video, Cheryl's core question about what is an ad and what isn't is a completely valid one.

[videoblogging] Re: Criticism

2007-12-25 Thread terry.rendon
Some old school journalistic sensibilities need to pervade these discussions Dude! Maybe my journalism degree is not as worthless as I thought! Happy Holidays everyone:) Terry Ann Rendon www.terryannonline.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Woolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Criticism

2007-12-24 Thread Brook Hinton
Terry, Cheryl's post was not an accusation.. She didn't state anything that needed backing up. And the post (how many times does this have to be said) wasn't about targeting Epic-Fu, they were used as an example illustrating how she COULDN'T know what was behind the product usage - in a post that

[videoblogging] Re: Criticism

2007-12-24 Thread terry.rendon
Hello Brooke Cheryl's post was not an accusation Yes, Cheryl didn't directly accuse anyone of anything. But questions, perhaps fairly or unfairly, have a way of appearing as so. And she did say, Since I don't know, I don't trust. That's strong language in my book. And the post (how many times

[videoblogging] Re: Criticism

2007-12-24 Thread Steve Woolf
Excuse me. Cheryl sent us an email letting us know she would be criticizing our content for being bubble gum content. We responded with examples of the important issues we try to bring up, the interests of our audience, and so forth. At no point did she ever ask us about sponsored links, how we

[videoblogging] Re: Criticism

2007-12-24 Thread Steve Woolf
Depite some Inflammatory and knee jerk comments, it seems like a giant win for all concerned. Brook, how can your livelihood being threatened by your professional integrity being called into question be a win for us? We are out there doing this with no safety net. Our show depends on its

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Criticism

2007-12-24 Thread schlomo rabinowitz
I know I'm not the most knowledgable person when it ones to Christian holidays, but can I still toss those sorts of people away for Lent? Maybe that question is for a more religious listserv... On 12/24/07, Steve Woolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Depite some Inflammatory and knee jerk comments,

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Criticism

2007-12-24 Thread Brook Hinton
Wow. Well, I didn't take Cheryl's post as questioning your integrity. If anything it seemed like there was an assumption because of who you guys are that everything was probably being done with integrity, but the problem was that there was no way for anyone to know that. Again, basic media

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Criticism

2007-12-24 Thread Brook Hinton
On the other hand, aspects of ensuing discussions make me fear that any discussion that touches on sensitive personal or livelihood matters for anyone involved will devolve, no matter how things are originally expressed, into this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdzLFNELeCI

[videoblogging] Re: Criticism

2007-12-24 Thread David Howell
Steve, I just got finished reading all these posts here on the list surrounding all this. As you already know, I am the one that called you guys corporate whores on Twitter. Yep. A pretty harsh statement to make. After watching your response video and pondering on what you guys said, I cant