Re: [videoblogging] Re: Frequency of Distribution
there is also something called stretch film which if it became viable could be relevant here. I only know of one person who actually made something like it (using LiveStage Pro). the idea (comes from stretch hypertext) is that you have, say, a 2 minute version of the work, but at any point you can 'stretch' it to make that sequence or content area longer by getting more material, and so on until you may (in theory) view all the footage for that sequence. Bit like svg for video I guess. On 24/05/2009, at 5:56 AM, Bill Cammack wrote: I think it really does require a tiered approach, which would be similar to what you're saying... Small clips, tagged and warehoused, and then making larger programs out of the smaller clips. Not necessarily like a playlist function like YouTube uses, but focusing information into interesting enough segments to inform your blog readers and subscribers that there IS much more material if they choose to go check it out... but that if they're *not* interested, they won't be pelted with several updates every day, just to get the media out the door. cheers Adrian Miles adrian.mi...@rmit.edu.au bachelor communication honours coordinator vogmae.net.au
[videoblogging] Re: Frequency of Distribution
woah. Now *THAT* is an interesting concept. Your comp tape actually contains the rest of the video, being skipped over unless you select it. I like that a lot. :) I suppose, technically, you could do something similar with YouTube annotations, as far as linking each demo section to the video that it actually represents... ASSUMING you wanted to use YouTube at all, and assuming that there was an efficient way to skip back to the location you left from the original video. But yeah, that's a great idea! :D ~Bill http://billcammack.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adrian Miles adrian.mi...@... wrote: there is also something called stretch film which if it became viable could be relevant here. I only know of one person who actually made something like it (using LiveStage Pro). the idea (comes from stretch hypertext) is that you have, say, a 2 minute version of the work, but at any point you can 'stretch' it to make that sequence or content area longer by getting more material, and so on until you may (in theory) view all the footage for that sequence. Bit like svg for video I guess. On 24/05/2009, at 5:56 AM, Bill Cammack wrote: I think it really does require a tiered approach, which would be similar to what you're saying... Small clips, tagged and warehoused, and then making larger programs out of the smaller clips. Not necessarily like a playlist function like YouTube uses, but focusing information into interesting enough segments to inform your blog readers and subscribers that there IS much more material if they choose to go check it out... but that if they're *not* interested, they won't be pelted with several updates every day, just to get the media out the door. cheers Adrian Miles adrian.mi...@... bachelor communication honours coordinator vogmae.net.au
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Reminder: Open Video Conference in June
This sounds totally great. Just got gainful employment that will take my attention for most of what's going on Friday, but Saturday Sunday, would LOVE to at least hang out if not attend the actual conference sessions. I'll be too brain dead for that by then. I've spots for four folks to stay sleeping on cots; five, with one on air mattress; 50 or more with floor space. It's urban camping. No shower, inconvenient transpo to the city. But there you have it. Call or email off list if interested. Jan Jan McLaughlin Production Sound Mixer air = 862-571-5334 aim = janofsound skype = janmclaughlin On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Gena compumaven...@earthlink.net wrote: Ok, now I feel like Heath usually does because I can't figure out how to swing it $$$ wise (airfare/housing.) I now have the official vlogger pouty face and I don't like it. Heath, you gotta go, even if it is just for Saturday. Whimpering my way to work, Gena --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rambos Locker rambos_loc...@... wrote: You just have to go Heath .. Someone has to wear the Sony Vegas hat ..hahaha Cheers Rambo http://rambos-locker.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:videoblogg...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Heath Sent: Thursday, 21 May 2009 4:52 AM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Reminder: Open Video Conference in June Hmmm I wonder if I should keep up my streak of NOT going to events with other vloggers or should I break trend and go. Seeing Richard and Rupert and a few others may be worth it Heath http://heathparks. http://heathparks.com com --- In videoblogging@ mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%2540yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, Richard (Show) Hall richard@ wrote: Ok ... not only am I seriously considering going, but I registered, made reservations and everything ... so I am going, and it took me two emails to say so ... see you there ... richard On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Richard (Show) Hall richard@ wrote: I'm seriously considering going. ...peace...richard On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Jay dedman jay.dedman@ wrote: I was told the rooms are about $170/night with the group rate, so I'd be interested in a roomshare if anyone else is. Are people planning on staying elsewhere? I want to make sure I'm where the action is :-) People are staying all over town...usually couchsurfing with friends. I know its expensive to stay in NYC. The hostels are considerably cheaper, but offer much less privacy. You could make a page on http://videobloggin http://videoblogginggroup.pbwiki.com/ ggroup.pbwiki.com/ if you wanted to start a place to find room sharing. The event is at NYU...so Im sure all the after parties will take place in Lower East Side. Jay -- http://ryanishungry http://ryanishungry.com .com http://jaydedman. http://jaydedman.com com http://twitter. http://twitter.com/jaydedman com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 -- Richard (Show) Hall http://richardshow. http://richardshow.org org -- Richard (Show) Hall http://richardshow. http://richardshow.org org [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Internet-Ready TV's from Major Brands Coming
With set-top boxes failing, major brands like Sony are planning on adding ethernet ports to their flatscreens: http://www.news24.com/News24/Technology/News/0,,2-13-1443_2521446,00.html Plug and play internet on televisions could be a total game-changer. -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Reminder: Open Video Conference in June
Anyone else planning on staying at the conference hotel? Just curious as I booked a room for the sake of logistics ease... Lauren Galanter www.laurengalanter.com www.linkedin.com/in/laureng 610-761-4435 On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Jan McLaughlin jannie@gmail.comwrote: This sounds totally great. Just got gainful employment that will take my attention for most of what's going on Friday, but Saturday Sunday, would LOVE to at least hang out if not attend the actual conference sessions. I'll be too brain dead for that by then. I've spots for four folks to stay sleeping on cots; five, with one on air mattress; 50 or more with floor space. It's urban camping. No shower, inconvenient transpo to the city. But there you have it. Call or email off list if interested. Jan Jan McLaughlin Production Sound Mixer air = 862-571-5334 aim = janofsound skype = janmclaughlin On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Gena compumaven...@earthlink.netcompumavengal%40earthlink.net wrote: Ok, now I feel like Heath usually does because I can't figure out how to swing it $$$ wise (airfare/housing.) I now have the official vlogger pouty face and I don't like it. Heath, you gotta go, even if it is just for Saturday. Whimpering my way to work, Gena --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Rambos Locker rambos_loc...@... wrote: You just have to go Heath .. Someone has to wear the Sony Vegas hat ..hahaha Cheers Rambo http://rambos-locker.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Heath Sent: Thursday, 21 May 2009 4:52 AM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Reminder: Open Video Conference in June Hmmm I wonder if I should keep up my streak of NOT going to events with other vloggers or should I break trend and go. Seeing Richard and Rupert and a few others may be worth it Heath http://heathparks. http://heathparks.com com --- In videoblogging@ mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%2540yahoogroups.com videoblogging%2540yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, Richard (Show) Hall richard@ wrote: Ok ... not only am I seriously considering going, but I registered, made reservations and everything ... so I am going, and it took me two emails to say so ... see you there ... richard On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Richard (Show) Hall richard@ wrote: I'm seriously considering going. ...peace...richard On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Jay dedman jay.dedman@ wrote: I was told the rooms are about $170/night with the group rate, so I'd be interested in a roomshare if anyone else is. Are people planning on staying elsewhere? I want to make sure I'm where the action is :-) People are staying all over town...usually couchsurfing with friends. I know its expensive to stay in NYC. The hostels are considerably cheaper, but offer much less privacy. You could make a page on http://videobloggin http://videoblogginggroup.pbwiki.com/ ggroup.pbwiki.com/ if you wanted to start a place to find room sharing. The event is at NYU...so Im sure all the after parties will take place in Lower East Side. Jay -- http://ryanishungry http://ryanishungry.com .com http://jaydedman. http://jaydedman.com com http://twitter. http://twitter.com/jaydedman com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 -- Richard (Show) Hall http://richardshow. http://richardshow.org org -- Richard (Show) Hall http://richardshow. http://richardshow.org org [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Internet-Ready TV's from Major Brands Coming
This is it. On 24-May-09, at 5:05 PM, Jeffrey Taylor wrote: With set-top boxes failing, major brands like Sony are planning on adding ethernet ports to their flatscreens: http://www.news24.com/News24/Technology/News/0,,2-13-1443_2521446,00.html Plug and play internet on televisions could be a total game-changer. -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Internet-Ready TV's from Major Brands Coming
And like Social Media, YouTube, videoblogging, twitter, and other trends, it will take 3 years to become mainstream. Year 1: Discovery by early-adopters Year 2: Corporate Discovery and creation of budget for projects in... Year 3: Where everything goes mainstream. I keep talking about this three year trend to people, saying that we have to move fast if we want to change the media. Look at how things changed for videoblogging alone between 2004 and 2007, or even from 2006 to now? This is not a dress rehearsal. We can't just sit and talk about changing the state of media, we must take action. The corporate momentum and infrastructure/warchest for communication has and will drown out our conversations, no matter how many positive benefits our ideas will bring to the world. On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Rupert rup...@fatgirlinohio.org wrote: This is it. On 24-May-09, at 5:05 PM, Jeffrey Taylor wrote: With set-top boxes failing, major brands like Sony are planning on adding ethernet ports to their flatscreens: http://www.news24.com/News24/Technology/News/0,,2-13-1443_2521446,00.html Plug and play internet on televisions could be a total game-changer. -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Internet-Ready TV's from Major Brands Coming
This largest hurdle I foresee is getting apps to run on the tvs, and how well each manufacturer adheres to any given standard. I believe most manufacturers have signed on to use tru2way, which is based in Java, which is now owned by Oracle. Does anyone foresee Ellison making some type of grab here? If so, will it kill the platform/adoption?
[videoblogging] Re: Internet-Ready TV's from Major Brands Coming
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Paul joshp...@... wrote: This largest hurdle I foresee is getting apps to run on the tvs, and how well each manufacturer adheres to any given standard. I believe most manufacturers have signed on to use tru2way, which is based in Java, which is now owned by Oracle. Does anyone foresee Ellison making some type of grab here? If so, will it kill the platform/adoption? My impression is that the main, first iTV's use a closed software architecture of widgets, i.e. Yahoo Widgets. There's one or more that have open software, but very expensive. It probably won't be until next year that open software iTV's will be affordable that anyone can write software to. Things may have changed since I last looked into this...let me know if otherwise. -- Enric
[videoblogging] Re: Internet-Ready TV's from Major Brands Coming
The history of technological phaes is covered well by Kurzweil in The Singularity is Near, IMO. The first phase is widely optomistic where people see possibilities and blue skies. Then those predictions fall short with skepticism and conservative view. In the second (and sometimes third phase) real success occurs. Recently this can be seen with the first dot.com boom and bust. Out of that huge, successful companies emerged in the second phase like Google, Amazon, etc. For internet media we are probably between the first and second phase. And I do (and have) predicted that Internet TV will realize the potential of quality, independent online media publishing. Story telling going back to performing in front of a group at a fire, the Greek theatres, to Cinema and TV, is at a distance, large. It is immersive and compelling. For story, people want to be drawn into it -- not disengage to interact and direct it, then immerse again back and forth. Otherwise it's game playing, not story. And Internet TV will remove the network/cable gatekeepers to Story in it's proper proscenium. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jeffrey Taylor thejeffreytay...@... wrote: And like Social Media, YouTube, videoblogging, twitter, and other trends, it will take 3 years to become mainstream. Year 1: Discovery by early-adopters Year 2: Corporate Discovery and creation of budget for projects in... Year 3: Where everything goes mainstream. I keep talking about this three year trend to people, saying that we have to move fast if we want to change the media. Look at how things changed for videoblogging alone between 2004 and 2007, or even from 2006 to now? This is not a dress rehearsal. We can't just sit and talk about changing the state of media, we must take action. The corporate momentum and infrastructure/warchest for communication has and will drown out our conversations, no matter how many positive benefits our ideas will bring to the world. On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Rupert rup...@... wrote: This is it. On 24-May-09, at 5:05 PM, Jeffrey Taylor wrote: With set-top boxes failing, major brands like Sony are planning on adding ethernet ports to their flatscreens: http://www.news24.com/News24/Technology/News/0,,2-13-1443_2521446,00.html Plug and play internet on televisions could be a total game-changer. -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Jeffrey Taylor 912 Cole St, #349 San Francisco, CA 94117 USA Mobile: +14157281264 Fax: +33177722734 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor http://organicconversations.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Internet-Ready TV's from Major Brands Coming
I've always assumed that none of them will really end up with proper browsers - just content portals full of pre-selected channels from commercial partners. This is how we will all get shut out. From the article: Philips is calling its internet service Net-TV. Devices in the 9000 series work with WLAN, while those in the 8000 series and the widescreen 21:9 models work with LAN connections. Unlike other manufacturers, Philips allows the internet information to take up the entire screen. The user gets started by navigating to the Net-TV home page. Philips has established partnerships with content providers willing to adapt their content for the TV screen. In Germany this includes major web sites like tagesschau.de, bild.de, kicker.de and YouTube as well as MyAlbum as a photo archive. It's also possible to enter in internet addresses directly, although Net-TV is unable to work with either Java or Flash. At Panasonic the internet mode is called Viera Cast and involves little program windows surrounding a reduced-sized TV image. These widgets show the weather, stock prices from Bloomberg TV, latest headlines and videos television stations as well as clips from YouTube. Viera Cast is slated to be integrated into the V 10, G 15 and Z 1 devices. Samsung has dubbed its programme inter...@tv. It provides only one program window next to the TV image. That can be YouTube clips, as well as headlines or weather reports delivered from Yahoo. The photos section is provided via the Flickr service. On 24-May-09, at 8:01 PM, Enric wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Paul joshp...@... wrote: This largest hurdle I foresee is getting apps to run on the tvs, and how well each manufacturer adheres to any given standard. I believe most manufacturers have signed on to use tru2way, which is based in Java, which is now owned by Oracle. Does anyone foresee Ellison making some type of grab here? If so, will it kill the platform/adoption? My impression is that the main, first iTV's use a closed software architecture of widgets, i.e. Yahoo Widgets. There's one or more that have open software, but very expensive. It probably won't be until next year that open software iTV's will be affordable that anyone can write software to. Things may have changed since I last looked into this...let me know if otherwise. -- Enric [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
