[videoblogging] Re: German Mobuzz Ripoff - Ehrensenf
Without the pretty face to watch reading the news, it'd be better served as a podcast. Some of these news vlogs don't even show anything else. No matter the attractiveness, it gets a little old watching someone talk in front of the same set every day. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This personal testimony shows you how far you can go just for having a pretty face and something nice to look at. It shows that content is not really everything like many of us would like to believe. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: German Mobuzz Ripoff - Ehrensenf
Can't criticism just be an open and free opinion? I'm a longtime vlog watcher (not a vlogger) and new to this forum... After reading the last few weeks worth of posts, it seems like many of the members are very sensative and defensive. It is a very generalized idea, but I think many would agree that most vlog posts are boring to watch. Of course people are open/free to create whatever they want, but that does not change the fact that the common folk will not be interested. Personal vlogs are just that - personal. Who has the capacity to be interested by every single person who decides to post a video? It is hard enough watching people I do like talk into the camera about some random thing that happened to them. It seems like people forget the most obvious thing- Every body does some thing every day. I may not have earned the right to say anything, but this all reminds me of a high school popularity contest. This is still a small pond and there are some big fish, but it'll be an ocean soon and even the biggest fish will be one of many. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its interesting how suddenly people who at first sight seem to promote the idea of openness and free will, have such strong subjective opinions about what is worthwhile and what is not worthwhile - often saying that this for everyone, except those that they dont like or find to be interesting. Saying things like this is for everyone but some people must be stopped. This is open and free, but we are the ones who determine that. I cant even defend myself anymore because it no longer makes since to me how some people are arriving at their conclusions. It just feels like empty criticism. On Nov 30, 2005, at 11:12 PM, Randolfe Wicker wrote: Now that they're showing the local Rotarians how to vlog and evangelizing to the common folk, we might see vlogging become a land of 5,000 vlogs with few worth watching. A tide of boring vlogs could kill that special spirit you find among vloggers at this time. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: A podcast is.....
Not sure the point of this, but I'm assuming it is the podcast means audio not video arguemnt. Yet Yahoo has video podcasts in this directory too, so I'm not sure what this proves. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An audio recording posted online, much like a short radio show. http://podcasts.yahoo.com/ http://podcasts.yahoo.com/start -- sull - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/u8TY5A/tzNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Jakob Nielson On Talking-Head Videos
It feels good to get validation from one of the most well-respected Web analysts. This seems to be a reoccuring argument here on the boards and finally someone gives their expert opinion... The eyetracking data clearly show that a talking head is boring, even for 24 seconds. On the Web, 24 seconds is a long time -- too long for users to keep their attention on something monotonous. Lesson to be learned: If you're not showing something visually interesting, make a podcast instead. Personally, I'd much rather watch a video of someone doing something rather than just watch them talk. What does this say about news shows like Rocketboom or Mobuzz? Sure the hosts are attractive at first, but each episode feels like the same thing and their attractiveness wears off. I usually play the video in the background and listen while multi-tasking on something else. Matter of fact, I can't remember the last time I was entertained by these talking heads. Of course, if these hosts were not semi-pretty then I wouldn't play the video at all. Just trying to be honest. Sometimes the truth hurts. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Not really suppose to be doing this - finishing up on my class presentation (down to my last three paragraphs) but I came across an interesting page on http://www.useit.com/alertbox/video.html Jakob Nielson is well known in the web design community. He did an study on where viewers eyes travel on computers screen watching video. He questions if broadcast video ported to the web is a good idea. I'll let you read the article for yourself but I think he makes excellent points. Many of them in our favor. Later, Gena http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/WpTY2A/izNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Portable Video. I'm not sure I give a crap. I want to, but I don't get it.
This is only the way YOU use these technologies and does not represent everyone else's needs/desires. There are too many possibilities to go into, but I find it ironic that you see the value in portable photos but not video. The video iPod is only the first attempt at serving a market that is still being created. Sure you may not be begging for a video iPod this Christmas, but the content will catch up and the viewers will find the need - even if you do not. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, missbhavens1969 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just poking my head in. Mouthing off. Don't wish to offend. Don't get me wrong, I think the new ipod is really cool, and I like a new geeky gadget as much as the next person, but I have the same feeling I had when they came out with the Photo ipod, which is sort of so what. Actually, now I think that being able to transport view pictures in one's ipod is a more useful function than watching video on it. Aside from the neat-o! aspect of it, I just don't see how or why this will be the next big thing for...anyone who believes it's the next big thing, be they major media, the music industry, whatever. I get to pay for tv shows I missed? No thanks. I don't need to see ANYTHING that badly--not even Lost. Classic repeats? Nope. Got Nickelodeon, if I feel the urge. MTV? Have it. Don't really watch it, but it's there. I really don't see the value in it for vloggers (or vodcasters, or video podcasters or video bloggers, or vidmasters or whatever you want to call it...I don't wish to start that semantic argument again) aside from my boyfriend being able to keep my video visage in his pocket (which, incidently, he wouldn't watch anyhow, because he sees me all the time. I'm trying not to feel a little hurt by that ;)) I guess what I mean is that I watch tv on my tv. And I watch vlogs on my computer be they shows, personal diaries, mini-movies, series or whatever else: I have room in my heart for all styles and formats. It's a format that's computer-based. It doesn't seem to belong on my tv, or in my pocket. Perhaps because it's become such a part of my daily routine (morning coffee, refresh Fireant, save me from morning magazine-news tv programs, thank God) that I'd have a hard time doing it a different way. I can be stubborn, yes, but it can't just be me. Is it just me? Also, iTunes doesn't even have a seperate section for uploading podcasts (back off, wordmavens--I'm using podcasts for now because it's easier)with video so that one could browse around, anyway. Stuff's just stuck everywhere: public radio, arts entertainment, spoken word and whathaveyou. Sure, there's a featured video podcast section, but it's awfully small. What's a videopodvodvlogmeister to do? I assume people want to ship their vlogs over to iTunes to reach a bigger audience or make it easier for people to subscribe--correct me if I'm wrong. But why bother if no one will be able to find you? Is anyone buying these video ipods and actually using them mainly for video? When are you supposed to watch? You can't drive and watch. You can't really walk and watch. Are people really sitting in their livingrooms watching these teensy (albeit crisp and clear) screens because, I'm sorry, but that's just dopey. The only time I can think that they would be useful is on a public transportaion commute to work. Surely zillions of people outside of New York City (and Chicago, and Boston and Tokyo and wherever else there's a large train/bus/monorail contingent) are buying the little suckers. Is anyone running out to replace their music/photo ipods? Or are the majority of people buying them new users who are just buying the current model, much like I bought an ipod with photo capabilities because that's just what was available? By the time my ipod is totaly outdated I'm hoping for a portable mp3 player that can make me a sandwich. The iSnack. THAT seems useful to me. I suppose the ludddite part of me thinks that portable video is bad. Do we really need to be entertained every goddamned minute? I guess you could take your video ipod out for a nice day in the park and watch it there--but shouldn't you just be enjoying a nice day in the park? I won't bore you with my theories concerning commercials bundled in programming on video ipods (Vpods?) other than to say: any day now. Any day. Ok. I'm done. No attacking, please. Bekah http://missbhavens.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/2jUsvC/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is
[videoblogging] Re: Portable Video. I'm not sure I give a crap. I want to, but I don't get it.
Basically anyone who uses the existing podcast features may want to have video rather than just audio. Travelers for one. They may want to use their (soon-to-be-available) Tivo-2-Go service to dump recorded shows down to their portable device. Then there would be no need to buy 'Lost' from iTunes if you have Tivo and could transfer it. Another option would be for tour guide stuff. For example, you could get info on places to eat/shop/drink in NYC from a local vlogger. Personally, I do not have much of a need either, but I recognize this as having huge potential. I'm a big fan of themed content and don't really care for personal-diary style stuff. Even the people I do know are hard to watch do nothing. The biggest reason I could justify buying a video iPod would be to take it out and share video with others. Basically it comes down to this. Rather than being limited to recieving video on your television or computer, you could take it anywhere once it is on the iPod. That makes you a walking media center. You could plug it into any TV or PC and watch it there. Rumor has it that Apple is working on wireless for the iPod so that you really could broadcaster to others around you. Again, the content isn't really here yet. Or at least not enough of it or the type of content to justify my purchase. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, missbhavens1969 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No! Please go into some possibilities! That's the part I want to know! I want to know what creating this market means! Market for...???Sure, if I hadn't just gotten an ipod relatively recently I WOULD be begging for one of the new ones, although maybe not for the same reasons as others. Other people's reasons are what I'm curious about! Viewers will find the need? Okay, right on, man! But for what? Help me out, here. bekah http://missbhavens.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, ManCheeseMo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is only the way YOU use these technologies and does not represent everyone else's needs/desires. There are too many possibilities to go into, but I find it ironic that you see the value in portable photos but not video. The video iPod is only the first attempt at serving a market that is still being created. Sure you may not be begging for a video iPod this Christmas, but the content will catch up and the viewers will find the need - even if you do not. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, missbhavens1969 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just poking my head in. Mouthing off. Don't wish to offend. Don't get me wrong, I think the new ipod is really cool, and I like a new geeky gadget as much as the next person, but I have the same feeling I had when they came out with the Photo ipod, which is Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/.QUssC/izNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Online Content Cannot Remain Free?
The head of the European Publishers Council said consumers were drawn online by free content but this needed to change. The value of content must be understood by consumers so that new business models can evolve. HA! Gotta love idealists... There is no way that Gen-Y will accept anything other than free and instant gradification. Sounds more like a dying industry trying to preseve its bottom line rather than innovating. Copyright laws are going to need to change. DRM? That's a joke. If security consists of zeros and ones, then there will be a hacker out there to crack it. It doesn't get much weaker than this... http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/12/06/D8EAUDM04.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/2jUsvC/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: and the winnder is....
Does this site even matter? http://weblogawards.org/2005/12/best_video_blog.php It looks like it was created by a couple of randoms, has no backing by respected outlets and there don't seem to be any prizes for the winners. Funny the things people do to feel important. Here are the current results for anyone who gives a shit: Crooks and Liars (1701) The Political Teen (339) MobuzzTV (159) Bareknucklepolitics (65) Rocketboom (63) MEMRI (61) Steve Garfield (17) Minnesota Stories (16) We Are The Meida (11) Bloggingheads.tv (6) David Meade (6) 29fragiledays (5) The 05 Project (5) Blogumentary (4) Zudfunck (3) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joan Khoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find it interesting that at the moment, Crooks and Liars are winning by 1000 votes while second place has around 300 votes. Joan On 12/7/05, bertrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, The Flash player can save some info (like cookies for browsers) on your computer, it is called local storage : http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/help02.html Bertrand 2005/12/6, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]: can you explain what that means. if it's something simple that people can do, I'd like to ask the weblogawards people about that On Dec 6, 2005, at 12:45 PM, bertrand wrote: You can vote as many times as you want, by cleaning up the flash cookie. --Steve -- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Individualhttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Individualw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=IkmOF87iVVg5aOV5s-5ShQ Fireanthttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Fireantw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=H15DYYUHQoulfARYZSKttA Typepadhttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Typepadw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=bK2vbSrJUIzcRadddW7krQ Usehttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Usew1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=RO46LszR1YSPWsK2mib1pA -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS - Visit your group videoblogginghttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Wall Street Journal: Videoblogging
More shameless self-promotion by Garfield. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Plus I sent her to Vlog Soup which highlights a lot of new vloggers each episode. http://stevegarfield.blogs.com/videoblog/vlog_soup/index.html On Dec 16, 2005, at 9:05 AM, Devlon wrote: It would be nice to hear about some new videobloggers in these articles. --Steve -- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income homes are not online. Make a difference this holiday season! http://us.click.yahoo.com/5UeCyC/BWHMAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Wall Street Journal: Videoblogging
It sure does get old reading what is basically the same article. My resolution for the New Year is to unsubscribe and boycott the following: Rocketboom, Garfield, Jay/Ryannne, Verdi and Josh Leo. None of them are great. Sure they're decent, but they sure don't deserve the hype over anyone else. Long live the underdogs. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Christian Wach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16 Dec 2005, at 14:17, Michael Sullivan wrote: seems to be an A-List of vloggers, evangelists, services that are repeatedly mentioned over and over Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income homes are not online. Make a difference this holiday season! http://us.click.yahoo.com/5UeCyC/BWHMAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Wall Street Journal: Videoblogging
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am glad there is no single 'Adam Curry' figure of the videoblogging world. Judging by the sensitivity and flames that can come out of such discussions by videobloggers on topics such as motive, fame, ego, money etc, I expect anybody trying to be 'the vodfather' would be reasted by the vlogosphere. Such things are better when diluted, when there are many vlog brothers and sisters doing such thing, not a single 'great leader'. HA! Wasn't Garfield just referred to as The Vlogfather in one of the recent articles? I'm sure that was his suggestion given his pompus footer about being like Paul Revere, leading this whole vlogging thing. I can't believe nobody else sees throught the egos. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Wall Street Journal: Videoblogging
Uh, how original. What exactly am I promoting? I don't even have a vlog to promote yet. My point is that the good ol' boy network gets old. If you are buddies with the FireANT crew or if you're one of the pre-populated vlogs, you'll get extra attention. There are people on this board that seem to have no job other than promoting themselves and their friends. IMHO, many in this group live inside a bubble where vlogging is everything to them. The funny part is that most people don't care to watch a person talk into a camera about mudane things. Just wait until the mass media catches on - then we'll really see how popular you are(n't). Maybe this is the new punk, but it is weak that the same people get all the hype when their content is no more creative than anyone else. They are just part of the in crowd (or should I say the self-promoting crowd). Just look how sensative they get when their power is questioned. To those: get a life, or better yet, a job. Watch, now one of the connected moderators will probably ban me from this group. Hasn't that happened to others who disgree with the cool people? --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More shameless self-promotion by ManCheeseMo. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, ManCheeseMo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More shameless self-promotion by Garfield. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Plus I sent her to Vlog Soup which highlights a lot of new vloggers each episode. http://stevegarfield.blogs.com/videoblog/vlog_soup/index.html On Dec 16, 2005, at 9:05 AM, Devlon wrote: It would be nice to hear about some new videobloggers in these articles. --Steve -- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Wall Street Journal: Videoblogging
The reason I include FireANT is because of how they pre-populated their friends' vlogs. It feels like a cheap way to promote the in-crowd and rather unethical. And of course the comeback will be that the new directory is coming, but that has been said for months. Until the day it comes out, FireANT is still promoting those people. What does it take to remove those vlogs from the list and push out another build? Probably very little work, but yet it was never done. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Again... was FireAnt mentioned in an article I'm not aware of? If it was, please send me a link. -josh On 12/16/05, ManCheeseMo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uh, how original. What exactly am I promoting? I don't even have a vlog to promote yet. My point is that the good ol' boy network gets old. If you are buddies with the FireANT crew or if you're one of the pre-populated vlogs, you'll get extra attention. There are people on this board that seem to have no job other than promoting themselves and their friends. IMHO, many in this group live inside a bubble where vlogging is everything to them. The funny part is that most people don't care to watch a person talk into a camera about mudane things. Just wait until the mass media catches on - then we'll really see how popular you are(n't). Maybe this is the new punk, but it is weak that the same people get all the hype when their content is no more creative than anyone else. They are just part of the in crowd (or should I say the self-promoting crowd). Just look how sensative they get when their power is questioned. To those: get a life, or better yet, a job. Watch, now one of the connected moderators will probably ban me from this group. Hasn't that happened to others who disgree with the cool people? --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More shameless self-promotion by ManCheeseMo. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, ManCheeseMo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More shameless self-promotion by Garfield. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Plus I sent her to Vlog Soup which highlights a lot of new vloggers each episode. http://stevegarfield.blogs.com/videoblog/vlog_soup/index.html On Dec 16, 2005, at 9:05 AM, Devlon wrote: It would be nice to hear about some new videobloggers in these articles. --Steve -- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] TROLL ALERT (was Re: Wall Street Journal: Videoblogging)
Thank you Steve (and Mieser) for being respectful. My original point that was quickly set ablaze was that I'm tired of the same people getting all the hype. It is funny how those were the same people (and a few of their friends) who quicky came to start the fire. Given my distaste for particular sites, the only thing I can do to have an affect is to state my opinion and unsubscribe from their feed. That is my right. This sensativity and defensiveness is precisely the bullshit I'm disqusted by. In reaction, it gets me more fired up and causes the comments to get harsher. As for Garfield labeling me a troll, that flat out pisses me off. This is coming from the biggest over-animated self-promoter here. Just look at that footer - Like Paul Revere, leading the media revlolution? What a joke. First of all Paul Revere didn't lead shit. He just announce the British were coming. Second, Garlfield is only one of many but publicly refers to himself as the leader. That is just weak. Isn't RSS leading the revloution? --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally I think labelling someone a troll at this early stage could be seen as exactly the sort of defensive action that an 'old guard' network might take, thus providing evidence for his case. Its just too easy to dismiss people as trolls, what about the actual issues? I have some trouble with the whole definition of a troll. Nobody has ever declared what debates are allowed here or not. I am naturally incined to want to talk about difficult issues, precisely because they are not often talked about. I wish to treat the newcomer who has produced no video with exactly the same standards as Id apply to a long-term member. I wish all humans (myself included) were better at handling criticism. Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only way to deal with trolls is to limit your reaction to reminding others not to respond to trolls. http://members.aol.com/intwg/trolls.htm On Dec 16, 2005, at 2:09 PM, ManCheeseMo wrote: Watch, now one of the connected moderators will probably ban me from this group. --Steve -- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Wall Street Journal: Videoblogging
Not quite the idea. I meant that FireANT could take the exising live build, strip it of the pre-populated feeds and release a 1.0b4 version. There would be no bugs that do not already exisit, which has nothing to do with the up and coming release. Besides, the whole issue of pre-populated feeds was only used as an example of the bigger issue. And to your previous point about not having legs to stand on because I do not have a vlog of my own-- Does that mean you think that a viewer's opinions are less than a creators? Good luck with that. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Susan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's right--just because you have a crappy attitude about a member list in ant that was created months and months ago, let's push out a non-complete build that could possibly be buggy and turn away an audience that might really get into vlogging otherwise. Great idea. Susan http://vlog.kitykity.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/u8TY5A/tzNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] TROLL ALERT (was Re: Wall Street Journal: Videoblogging)
Sadly, David Jr. is benefiting from all this. For the record, I have no idea who the hell that guy is. He is from the East Coast and I'm in the Midwest. At first I thought this was rather amusing, but then realize how this furthers my point. Yet again, a sorry attempt to string someone up. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey David Jr, I just looked up Paul Revere. http://darter.ocps.net/classroom/revolution/revere.htm You are right. Thanks for pointing that out. Changing my footer Look forward to watching your show on Tuesday at 10:30 at http://www.davidjr.com/tv On Dec 16, 2005, at 3:17 PM, ManCheeseMo wrote: Just look at that footer - Like Paul Revere, leading the media revlolution? What a joke. First of all Paul Revere didn't lead shit. --Steve -- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com --Steve -- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- AIDS in India: A lurking bomb. Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/9QUssC/lzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] TROLL ALERT (was Re: Wall Street Journal: Videoblogging)
No, this is what happens when people become overly defensive and look for a way to publicly ridicule someone. I'm not sure what anonymity you're talking about. I'm here communicating with you. Do I need a vlog to have an identity? Would you rather I give out my full name, social security number and date of birth so that you feel better about flaming me? Look at what you guys do to someone (David Jr) you don't like. Talk about vindictive. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sadly, David Jr. is benefiting from all this. For the record, I have no idea who the hell that guy is. He is from the East Coast and I'm in the Midwest. At first I thought this was rather amusing, but then realize how this furthers my point. Yet again, a sorry attempt to string someone up. if mancheesmo is not David Jr...i apologize for making the false connection. Im sending him an email now to make make things clear. guess this is what happens when dealing with anonymous persons. jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging URL: http://www.momentshowing.net http://feeds.feedburner.com/Momentshowing http://getFireAnt.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income homes are not online. Make a difference this holiday season! http://us.click.yahoo.com/5UeCyC/BWHMAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] TROLL ALERT (was Re: Wall Street Journal: Videoblogging)
Ironic - aren't you being a troll with your witty one-liners? Oops, now I just fed you. Let's see how fast you bite. ;) Or maybe we can be men and agree to disagree? I'm tired of getting flamed. Next topic please! --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Feed a troll and they'll bite. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- AIDS in India: A lurking bomb. Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/9QUssC/lzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
