I was of course just re-iterating a point from the wonderful nyc.node101
anthology on blip.tv, because it was relevant to the discussion. Who is
the blue-haired English fellow who said it, by the way?
Regurgitation is something I haven't practiced since my exam-writing
days, although I hear
I agree- This is insane. Suspending them over this is political BS.
m
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Miguel Pulecio
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A parody video that features uniformed and plainclothes San
Francisco
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Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Offensive
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Miguel Pulecio[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
wrote: A parody video that features uniformed and plainclothes
SanFrancisco police officers
If any vlogger or budding amateur filmmaker produces and posts on their
website humourous/offensive/questionable videos of their workplace and
colleagues, in uniform and featuring prominently the corporate logo or
public brand, isn't it obviously a recipe for trouble? Try it at your
day job
OK. Fist off...
They get all uptight about this home movie and yet Cops is just
fine? That's B.S. i think cops has done far worse for the image of
police than anything... that and showing up in cars only when there
is trouble... It's only years of getting back out there on foot and
On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 21:53:59 +0100, teaspace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If any vlogger or budding amateur filmmaker produces and posts on their
website humourous/offensive/questionable videos of their workplace and
colleagues, in uniform and featuring prominently the corporate logo or
public
Privacy is dead.
Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen wrote:
On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 21:53:59 +0100, teaspace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If any vlogger or budding amateur filmmaker produces and posts on their
website humourous/offensive/questionable videos of their workplace and
colleagues, in uniform and
On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 22:21:04 +0100, teaspace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Privacy is dead.
Regurgitated one-liners are useless.
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Actually no... the videos were created for the Christmas party, but
were part of something that the producing officer had created at the
website http://www.insidethesfpd.com -- I don't know yet whether or
not he had an RSS feed or not -- the media content was taken down
before more than a
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually no... the videos were created for the Christmas party, but
were part of something that the producing officer had created at the
website http://www.insidethesfpd.com -- I don't know yet whether or
not he
Except that the Creator/Producer Uploaded them to the Net - and next
they you know someone found them; also the vids were shared - so there
is no right to privacy.
Jeffrey
The police videos were never intended to be public. They were
created for
a closed party. Very different
There's the right to have a personal view and express it as an
individual whether it's congruent with the corporate/governmental
entity one works for or not.
-- Enric
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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes a person has a right to express his views. However a person needs
to respect the stance of his employers. E.g. A hospital takes an
anti-abortion stance while some of its employees are pro-choice. It's
employees are free to express their opinions as individuals. Its not a
problem until they
I think most people are sophisticated enough to understand a overblown
video parody. The suspension of twenty officers without pay, and
Officer Andrew Cohen not even getting police union legal defense (see
http://www.insidethesfpd.com/ ) does not seem commensurate with
creating a video making fun
The scary thing is that a person can be intelligent, but people are
stupid. Ask anyone working in customer service. As much as I
wished people don't get worked up about parodies, someone
inevitably will step on toes. I think the world would be a lot nicer if
more people take less offence. I'm
not so, many people sign those rights away when entering into employment
for example, even if you have to buy your own uniform, there are often
rules as to how you can appear in it (e.g., no endorsements)
many employers (e.g., University of California) *require* the signing of
a loyalty oath
Yes, I think that states well the police administration and city
governments point of view. The world would be pretty dull, uncreative
and lacking in innovation if it catered to anyone who would be
offended. No scientific innovation would occur in genetics, because
it offends religious
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
not so, many people sign those rights away when entering into employment
for example, even if you have to buy your own uniform, there are often
rules as to how you can appear in it (e.g., no endorsements)
many
Here are some of the issues I think are overlooked in the police video scandal:
The district the videos were made in is the Bayview, a mostly black community,
with one of
the highest homicide rates in the city, and the highest in 10 years. The videos
were made
during company time with public
the last time i checked, 47% was not quite most
except possibly in Florida =)
perhaps you meant the largest group
Enric wrote:
The poll shows most people consider them humorous (47% when I voted).
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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the last time i checked, 47% was not quite most
except possibly in Florida =)
perhaps you meant the largest group
OK, this is the (non-scientific) poll breakdown as of this writing:
11% Shocking
8% Mildly
that survey seems a bit lopsided to me
i wonder how the results would have changed if there a few more
reasonable choices like a waste of people's money?
Enric wrote:
The poll shows most people consider them humorous (47% when I voted).
I voted them harmless. Considering that people have a
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
that survey seems a bit lopsided to me
i wonder how the results would have changed if there a few more
reasonable choices like a waste of people's money?
Well it's not clear that it was done with publics money and
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 05:51:02 +0100, teaspace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't know what SNL has to do with this, but my point is that police
expect to be taken seriously when they deal with you. They also happen
to wield a lot more power than regular folks and should probably govern
ah, perhaps they used their own 'personal' squad cars
Enric wrote:
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
that survey seems a bit lopsided to me
i wonder how the results would have changed if there a few more
reasonable choices like "a
On 12/10/05, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I grew up on jokes of the a Dane, a Norwegian and a Swede sits on amountain top... variety. They don't go into a bar...?!?-- best regards,
Deirdré Straughanwww.beginningwithi.com (personal)www.tvblob.com (work)
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 11:26:45 +0100, Deirdre Straughan
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On 12/10/05, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I grew up on jokes of the a Dane, a Norwegian and a Swede sits on a
mountain top... variety.
They don't go into a bar...?!?
It was in Norway. A
OK, here's how I see this.
Videoblogging is about self-expression and removing intermediaries.
In this case the police officers are expressing themselves in video.
The made the video for themselves only. So the intermediaries are the
major, police chief, news outlets that are prohibiting
baloney!
first, i suspect many police would say they love their job (shitty or not)
also, the pay may be better than you might think
SFPD salaries appear to be in the $45K-$110K range and with better
benefits than many other jobs
there are much, much worse paying jobs here in occupied Mexico
i seem to recall that certain people were expected to be held to a
higher standard
oh yeah, public servants!
oh wait. I think Justice Sirrica recently said that was no longer necessary
so the new standard is the vlogger
i like that Enric
Enric wrote:
OK, here's how I see this.
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i seem to recall that certain people were expected to be held to a
higher standard
oh yeah, public servants!
oh wait. I think Justice Sirrica recently said that was no longer
necessary
so the new standard is
I don't know what SNL has to do with this, but my point is that police
expect to be taken seriously when they deal with you. They also happen
to wield a lot more power than regular folks and should probably govern
themselves accordingly.
Having said that, I did find the police chief's
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