Good news! And a useful example of defending against bogus DMCA take
down notices.
-- Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Looks like Antonio won against KSDK! His account and his 500+ videos
have been reinstated, read about it here:
Looks like Antonio won against KSDK! His account and his 500+ videos
have been reinstated, read about it here:
http://www.pubdef.net/2007/10/pubdef-wins-fight-with-ksdk-
youtube.html
Bill Streeter
LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
www.lofistl.com
www.billstreeter.net
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com,
Fantastic. i didn't think that would happen.
On 3 Oct 2007, at 15:25, Bill Streeter wrote:
Looks like Antonio won against KSDK! His account and his 500+ videos
have been reinstated, read about it here:
http://www.pubdef.net/2007/10/pubdef-wins-fight-with-ksdk-
youtube.html
Bill Streeter
LO-FI
Yes actually Jackson West did a story about it on NewTeeVee you can read that
here:
http://newteevee.com/2007/09/19/local-station-journalist-fight-over-youtube-clips/
and the video in question is there too.
Bill Streeter
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, bordercollieaustralianshepherd
Interesting turn of events for folks who have critical things to say about
media issues.
One net result: Even if critical speech / thought abides by all terms of
Fair Use, DCMA terms chill the critical voice.
But only if the critical thinkers allow themselves to be chilled.
Perhaps opening
KSDK-TV Can't take criticism?? And I think that this comes down to
just that one issue.
copyright agent
by U.S. Mail to:
Gannett Co., Inc.,
7950 Jones Branch Drive,
McLean, VA 22107,
Attn: K. Jaske,
or by email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MAIL:
KSDK-TV
1000 Market Street
St. Louis, Mo. 63101
the real problem is that there is no law that protects or
enforces fair use, it's simply a precedent put forth by the courts
and unless it IS law, sooner or laterfair use will be a thing of
the past..
Heath
http://batmangeek.com
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jan McLaughlin
[EMAIL
I believe Fair Use *is* in fact in the copyright statute. The problems: it's
a subjective call due to the weighing of factors necessary (and if those
factors were replaced by a specific and stringent test it would probably NOT
be a good thing - I doubt the transformative clause would survive, and
I am on the same page. Unlike the trademark issue with The Hip Hop
Violinist this is about Criticism (of a news report) and whether it
is covered under Fair Use.
Fair Use is Law.
Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair use
of a copyrighted work, including such use by
I stand corrected, but HOW that section and part of the copyright law
is enforced is vague and open to the courts interpatation
Heath
http://batmangeek.com
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Fair Use is in the law, Sec. 107 of Title 17 of the US
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A local St. Louis video blogger, Antonio French, has had all his
videos pulled from YouTube after a Local TV station sent a take down
notice to YouTube. The video they sent the take down notice was a
report that
Important to note that this isn't so much a problem with YouTube as it is a
problem with THE LAW, which blip and everyone else also has to deal with.
Copyright infringement is your best entertainment value ---Negativland
___
Brook Hinton
[i'm not sure, maybe this is a silly question]: do you know why we don't
hear about this take-down procedures in relation to blip?
thank, friends.
On 9/19/07, Brook Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Important to note that this isn't so much a problem with YouTube as it
is a
problem with THE
Well I agree that there are problems with the law, especially the
DMCA, but really with this issue specifically it's not the law that
is the problem, it's the way it's implemented and enforced. Fair Use
is the law too, but it often gets pushed aside or over looked by
over zelous enforcement of
Live by YouTube, die by YouTube. More food for thought that
maintaining your own URL is more important than trying to succeed on
sites where you have no formal business relationship with.
-Kent, askaninja.com
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A
Especially since setting up your own Videoblogging site is getting
easier and easier.
(For example... now, it's fairly easy to do with WordPress with Show in a Box.)
See ya
On 9/19/07, Kent Nichols [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Live by YouTube, die by YouTube. More food for thought that
A guess as to why we don't hear about this take-down procedures in
relation to blip?
Blip doesn't figure in any of the reports about market share for top
video providers. Myspace, Youtube, Yahoo, Google get a mention, but
never Blip. Lawyers are too busy working to know that there are any
he should be able to send an email to Youtube outlining that it is
fair use and they may re-enstate the video's. It has happened
before, the big thing with the DMCA is, even though they (being the
hosting provider) has to take something down no questions asked, if
it proven the request is in
@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 4:09:21 PM
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: YouTube suspends Vloggers account for Fair Use.
A guess as to why we don't hear about this take-down procedures in
relation to blip?
Blip doesn't figure in any of the reports about market share for top
When the lawyers, etc., find out about Blip I'm sure they
will point their minions at it as well. There are companies that do
nothing but search YouTube all day looking for infringing videos. From what
I gather from an article I read, these people aren't particularly skilled at
So as its been said, Youtube isnt really the bad boy here...they are
just saving their own ass from law suitsquick to screw creators.
It would be interesting to see Youtube and other big video sites
actually stand up and help define fair use.
blip actually makes their process very clear:
Is the video back up anywhere that we can see what all the fuss is about?
Reads like fair use. The station has used his videos on their
newscasts. Now that's Damning evidence. or Damn, that is evidence.
What I did see that I do not recall in other cases is that YouTube's
takedown notice where
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