Re: [videoblogging] Re: live video streaming

2007-10-19 Thread Brook Hinton
Re QT Streaming Server being expensive:

Darwin Streaming Server is, basically, QT Streaming Server, but uncoupled
from OSX Server, open source (free), and runs on multiple platforms:

http://developer.apple.com/opensource/server/streaming/index.html

Brook


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: live video streaming

2007-10-19 Thread Kath O'Donnell
On 10/14/07, tom_a_sparks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  based on what I read only one person can view the feed at a time :(

oh :( sorry I forgot about that, I should have checked more closely.
(we used it one at a time)


  
   I used to do internet radio using ogg vorbis ( others prior to that)
   streaming via winamp (similar to live365 site - sometimes we'd use
  it as a
   relay site) but haven't done ogg theora / vorbis for video streaming.

  looks like I need to send an email to ogg theora mailing list


I found this on the new floss manuals site if it helps :
http://en.flossmanuals.net/theoracookbook

the main page http://en.flossmanuals.net/ has other links if you want
to try other systems

kath


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: live video streaming

2007-10-13 Thread Robyn Tippins
I've used uStream and it worked well.  I have also done Quicktime Server
w/Quicktime Broadcaster, which was a breeze as well.  I tried uStream for
streaming video into SecondLife (for the main BlogHer sessions this year)
and the company we were using for our build in SL could only accept
Quicktime files (not sure if that's a SL thing or just per this company),
but QT Server/Broadcaster was perfect.

uStream has not let me down either, so I could easily recommend either of
these.

Robyn Tippins
Community Manager, MyBlogLog
sleepyblogger.com | gamingandtech.com

On 10/13/07, Kath O'Donnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   hi Tom, I guess you've already looked at the VLC streaming pages since
 you're planning on using VLC to view the streams? the diagrams and
 instructions there seem to outline it.

 http://www.videolan.org/vlc/streaming.html
 http://www.videolan.org/doc/

 I've done streaming of a STB composite output using VLC on my laptop
 instead
 of requiring a tv (at work). other people could view the stream also by
 connecting to my ip stream. (this was on a private network/vpn, but would
 be
 similar if I had a public ip on the net for external people to access).

 another option u may want to consider is a streaming box such as slingbox.
 so similarly, you could connect your camera output to the input of the
 slingbox and let it handle the streaming (since that's what it's built
 for).
 if u use multiple cameras, then u might need a video mixer or video
 switcher
 prior to the input of slingbox, or maybe u don't mind the glitch/outage
 whilst swapping cables manually. then people download the slingbox viewer
 for free and connect to your feed. the slingbox costs around $150. though
 I
 don't think it's available in Aus, so you'd need to buy it off the net eg
 HongKong or UK site, and I think the licence is for non-commercial use
 (sounds like your project is?). slingplayer is available for multiple
 platforms including mobile devices such as phones, PDAs. slingbox is very
 simple to setup and use. the website has the instructions. plus this means
 u
 don't need to dedicate a computer to be the streaming server, you use the
 slingbox instead so I think in the long run it's a cheaper option.  if u
 connect it to the tv, u can use the remote to change channels etc as well,
 or write an interface for the infared remote to perform other control
 functions u might require. I'm not sure if you can view the stream in vlc
 though - I think it's just the slingbox player. but if you're getting
 people
 to download vlc, then getting them to d/l slingbox player is similar?

 I used to do internet radio using ogg vorbis ( others prior to that)
 streaming via winamp (similar to live365 site - sometimes we'd use it as a
 relay site) but haven't done ogg theora / vorbis for video streaming.

 cheers
 Kath

 ps- you're from Warwick? I used to live in bris. what's the project you're
 working on?

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 On 10/13/07, tom_a_sparks [EMAIL PROTECTED]tom_a_sparks%40yahoo.com.au
 wrote:
 
  first of all I dont want to use any internet based website
  as the project (cross your fingers) is going to use on a Wireless
  community network
  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_community_network (if that ever
  gets off the ground))
 
  * using 2 to 3 cameras
  * using ogg theora/vorbis for the feed
  * want to use open-source/free software (eg videolan)
  the video well be transcoded to other video file after the event for a
  rss feeding
 
 
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[videoblogging] Re: live video streaming

2007-10-13 Thread Bill Cammack
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Robyn Tippins
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've used uStream and it worked well.  I have also done Quicktime Server
 w/Quicktime Broadcaster, which was a breeze as well.  I tried
uStream for

That's interesting, Robyn.  This is the first time I think I've heard
of ANYBODY using Quicktime Server... potentially because it's actually
expensive instead of free.

Did you post anywhere about your procedure of serving files using
Quicktime Server?

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http://billcammack.com

 streaming video into SecondLife (for the main BlogHer sessions this
year)
 and the company we were using for our build in SL could only accept
 Quicktime files (not sure if that's a SL thing or just per this
company),
 but QT Server/Broadcaster was perfect.
 
 uStream has not let me down either, so I could easily recommend
either of
 these.
 
 Robyn Tippins
 Community Manager, MyBlogLog
 sleepyblogger.com | gamingandtech.com
 
 On 10/13/07, Kath O'Donnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
hi Tom, I guess you've already looked at the VLC streaming pages
since
  you're planning on using VLC to view the streams? the diagrams and
  instructions there seem to outline it.
 
  http://www.videolan.org/vlc/streaming.html
  http://www.videolan.org/doc/
 
  I've done streaming of a STB composite output using VLC on my laptop
  instead
  of requiring a tv (at work). other people could view the stream
also by
  connecting to my ip stream. (this was on a private network/vpn,
but would
  be
  similar if I had a public ip on the net for external people to
access).
 
  another option u may want to consider is a streaming box such as
slingbox.
  so similarly, you could connect your camera output to the input of the
  slingbox and let it handle the streaming (since that's what it's built
  for).
  if u use multiple cameras, then u might need a video mixer or video
  switcher
  prior to the input of slingbox, or maybe u don't mind the
glitch/outage
  whilst swapping cables manually. then people download the slingbox
viewer
  for free and connect to your feed. the slingbox costs around $150.
though
  I
  don't think it's available in Aus, so you'd need to buy it off the
net eg
  HongKong or UK site, and I think the licence is for non-commercial use
  (sounds like your project is?). slingplayer is available for multiple
  platforms including mobile devices such as phones, PDAs. slingbox
is very
  simple to setup and use. the website has the instructions. plus
this means
  u
  don't need to dedicate a computer to be the streaming server, you
use the
  slingbox instead so I think in the long run it's a cheaper option.
 if u
  connect it to the tv, u can use the remote to change channels etc
as well,
  or write an interface for the infared remote to perform other control
  functions u might require. I'm not sure if you can view the stream
in vlc
  though - I think it's just the slingbox player. but if you're getting
  people
  to download vlc, then getting them to d/l slingbox player is similar?
 
  I used to do internet radio using ogg vorbis ( others prior to that)
  streaming via winamp (similar to live365 site - sometimes we'd use
it as a
  relay site) but haven't done ogg theora / vorbis for video streaming.
 
  cheers
  Kath
 
  ps- you're from Warwick? I used to live in bris. what's the
project you're
  working on?
 
  ---
 
  http://www.aliak.com
 
  On 10/13/07, tom_a_sparks
[EMAIL PROTECTED]tom_a_sparks%40yahoo.com.au
  wrote:
  
   first of all I dont want to use any internet based website
   as the project (cross your fingers) is going to use on a Wireless
   community network
   (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_community_network (if
that ever
   gets off the ground))
  
   * using 2 to 3 cameras
   * using ogg theora/vorbis for the feed
   * want to use open-source/free software (eg videolan)
   the video well be transcoded to other video file after the event
for a
   rss feeding
  
  
  --
  http://www.aliak.com
 
  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 
   
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Robyn Tippins
 
 Community Manager, MyBlogLog - Yahoo!
 Sleepyblogger.com | Gamingandtech.com
 
 
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[videoblogging] Re: live video streaming

2007-10-13 Thread tom_a_sparks
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kath O'Donnell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 another option u may want to consider is a streaming box such as
slingbox.
 so similarly, you could connect your camera output to the input of the
 slingbox and let it handle the streaming (since that's what it's
built for).
 if u use multiple cameras, then u might need a video mixer or video
switcher
where can I look for software based vision mixer (open-source/free)?

based on what I read only one person can view the feed at a time :(

 
 I used to do internet radio using ogg vorbis ( others prior to that)
 streaming via winamp (similar to live365 site - sometimes we'd use
it as a
 relay site) but haven't done ogg theora / vorbis for video streaming.

looks like I need to send an email to ogg theora mailing list


 ps- you're from Warwick? I used to live in bris. what's the project
you're
 working on?

this project currently a research project (costing) based on a wish
list that the youth of the town want (but I am having some
disagreements with the local council with a different matter (court
action) , so it may never get of the ground)

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