Re: [videoblogging] Re: live video streaming
Re QT Streaming Server being expensive: Darwin Streaming Server is, basically, QT Streaming Server, but uncoupled from OSX Server, open source (free), and runs on multiple platforms: http://developer.apple.com/opensource/server/streaming/index.html Brook -- ___ Brook Hinton film/video/audio art www.brookhinton.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: live video streaming
On 10/14/07, tom_a_sparks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: based on what I read only one person can view the feed at a time :( oh :( sorry I forgot about that, I should have checked more closely. (we used it one at a time) I used to do internet radio using ogg vorbis ( others prior to that) streaming via winamp (similar to live365 site - sometimes we'd use it as a relay site) but haven't done ogg theora / vorbis for video streaming. looks like I need to send an email to ogg theora mailing list I found this on the new floss manuals site if it helps : http://en.flossmanuals.net/theoracookbook the main page http://en.flossmanuals.net/ has other links if you want to try other systems kath -- http://www.aliak.com
Re: [videoblogging] Re: live video streaming
I've used uStream and it worked well. I have also done Quicktime Server w/Quicktime Broadcaster, which was a breeze as well. I tried uStream for streaming video into SecondLife (for the main BlogHer sessions this year) and the company we were using for our build in SL could only accept Quicktime files (not sure if that's a SL thing or just per this company), but QT Server/Broadcaster was perfect. uStream has not let me down either, so I could easily recommend either of these. Robyn Tippins Community Manager, MyBlogLog sleepyblogger.com | gamingandtech.com On 10/13/07, Kath O'Donnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi Tom, I guess you've already looked at the VLC streaming pages since you're planning on using VLC to view the streams? the diagrams and instructions there seem to outline it. http://www.videolan.org/vlc/streaming.html http://www.videolan.org/doc/ I've done streaming of a STB composite output using VLC on my laptop instead of requiring a tv (at work). other people could view the stream also by connecting to my ip stream. (this was on a private network/vpn, but would be similar if I had a public ip on the net for external people to access). another option u may want to consider is a streaming box such as slingbox. so similarly, you could connect your camera output to the input of the slingbox and let it handle the streaming (since that's what it's built for). if u use multiple cameras, then u might need a video mixer or video switcher prior to the input of slingbox, or maybe u don't mind the glitch/outage whilst swapping cables manually. then people download the slingbox viewer for free and connect to your feed. the slingbox costs around $150. though I don't think it's available in Aus, so you'd need to buy it off the net eg HongKong or UK site, and I think the licence is for non-commercial use (sounds like your project is?). slingplayer is available for multiple platforms including mobile devices such as phones, PDAs. slingbox is very simple to setup and use. the website has the instructions. plus this means u don't need to dedicate a computer to be the streaming server, you use the slingbox instead so I think in the long run it's a cheaper option. if u connect it to the tv, u can use the remote to change channels etc as well, or write an interface for the infared remote to perform other control functions u might require. I'm not sure if you can view the stream in vlc though - I think it's just the slingbox player. but if you're getting people to download vlc, then getting them to d/l slingbox player is similar? I used to do internet radio using ogg vorbis ( others prior to that) streaming via winamp (similar to live365 site - sometimes we'd use it as a relay site) but haven't done ogg theora / vorbis for video streaming. cheers Kath ps- you're from Warwick? I used to live in bris. what's the project you're working on? --- http://www.aliak.com On 10/13/07, tom_a_sparks [EMAIL PROTECTED]tom_a_sparks%40yahoo.com.au wrote: first of all I dont want to use any internet based website as the project (cross your fingers) is going to use on a Wireless community network (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_community_network (if that ever gets off the ground)) * using 2 to 3 cameras * using ogg theora/vorbis for the feed * want to use open-source/free software (eg videolan) the video well be transcoded to other video file after the event for a rss feeding -- http://www.aliak.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Robyn Tippins Community Manager, MyBlogLog - Yahoo! Sleepyblogger.com | Gamingandtech.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: live video streaming
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Robyn Tippins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've used uStream and it worked well. I have also done Quicktime Server w/Quicktime Broadcaster, which was a breeze as well. I tried uStream for That's interesting, Robyn. This is the first time I think I've heard of ANYBODY using Quicktime Server... potentially because it's actually expensive instead of free. Did you post anywhere about your procedure of serving files using Quicktime Server? -- Bill http://billcammack.com streaming video into SecondLife (for the main BlogHer sessions this year) and the company we were using for our build in SL could only accept Quicktime files (not sure if that's a SL thing or just per this company), but QT Server/Broadcaster was perfect. uStream has not let me down either, so I could easily recommend either of these. Robyn Tippins Community Manager, MyBlogLog sleepyblogger.com | gamingandtech.com On 10/13/07, Kath O'Donnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi Tom, I guess you've already looked at the VLC streaming pages since you're planning on using VLC to view the streams? the diagrams and instructions there seem to outline it. http://www.videolan.org/vlc/streaming.html http://www.videolan.org/doc/ I've done streaming of a STB composite output using VLC on my laptop instead of requiring a tv (at work). other people could view the stream also by connecting to my ip stream. (this was on a private network/vpn, but would be similar if I had a public ip on the net for external people to access). another option u may want to consider is a streaming box such as slingbox. so similarly, you could connect your camera output to the input of the slingbox and let it handle the streaming (since that's what it's built for). if u use multiple cameras, then u might need a video mixer or video switcher prior to the input of slingbox, or maybe u don't mind the glitch/outage whilst swapping cables manually. then people download the slingbox viewer for free and connect to your feed. the slingbox costs around $150. though I don't think it's available in Aus, so you'd need to buy it off the net eg HongKong or UK site, and I think the licence is for non-commercial use (sounds like your project is?). slingplayer is available for multiple platforms including mobile devices such as phones, PDAs. slingbox is very simple to setup and use. the website has the instructions. plus this means u don't need to dedicate a computer to be the streaming server, you use the slingbox instead so I think in the long run it's a cheaper option. if u connect it to the tv, u can use the remote to change channels etc as well, or write an interface for the infared remote to perform other control functions u might require. I'm not sure if you can view the stream in vlc though - I think it's just the slingbox player. but if you're getting people to download vlc, then getting them to d/l slingbox player is similar? I used to do internet radio using ogg vorbis ( others prior to that) streaming via winamp (similar to live365 site - sometimes we'd use it as a relay site) but haven't done ogg theora / vorbis for video streaming. cheers Kath ps- you're from Warwick? I used to live in bris. what's the project you're working on? --- http://www.aliak.com On 10/13/07, tom_a_sparks [EMAIL PROTECTED]tom_a_sparks%40yahoo.com.au wrote: first of all I dont want to use any internet based website as the project (cross your fingers) is going to use on a Wireless community network (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_community_network (if that ever gets off the ground)) * using 2 to 3 cameras * using ogg theora/vorbis for the feed * want to use open-source/free software (eg videolan) the video well be transcoded to other video file after the event for a rss feeding -- http://www.aliak.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Robyn Tippins Community Manager, MyBlogLog - Yahoo! Sleepyblogger.com | Gamingandtech.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: live video streaming
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kath O'Donnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: another option u may want to consider is a streaming box such as slingbox. so similarly, you could connect your camera output to the input of the slingbox and let it handle the streaming (since that's what it's built for). if u use multiple cameras, then u might need a video mixer or video switcher where can I look for software based vision mixer (open-source/free)? based on what I read only one person can view the feed at a time :( I used to do internet radio using ogg vorbis ( others prior to that) streaming via winamp (similar to live365 site - sometimes we'd use it as a relay site) but haven't done ogg theora / vorbis for video streaming. looks like I need to send an email to ogg theora mailing list ps- you're from Warwick? I used to live in bris. what's the project you're working on? this project currently a research project (costing) based on a wish list that the youth of the town want (but I am having some disagreements with the local council with a different matter (court action) , so it may never get of the ground) snip