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thanks to both of you Rupert Adrian! I watched the film - I loved the reflections in the water and shadows. (similar bicycle shadows) I was wondering what people would have thought of him filming back then. these days almost everyone has a camera and points it, but back then I'm guessing cameras would have been more expensive relatively (?) and less people would have carried a film camera into the streets. I wondered what they thought of him filming the ground and the different angles. it was interesting to see the similiarities between the delhi streets film and the Regen one too. I suppose the human eye hasn't changed that much - similar people throughout different times still notice things in same way and have similar thoughts. I'll look out for more of Regen's work. 2008/6/14 Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thank you! I didn't know about that. I just found it on the Internet Archive: http://ia351416.us.archive.org/1/items/Regen/Regen.mp4 I'll watch it later. I love the whole idea of it. The late 20s produced such incredible things. On 13-Jun-08, at 2:40 PM, Adrian Miles wrote: Joris Ivens, Rain http://www.ivens.nl/film29-5.htm, 1929, 12 minutes. -- http://www.aliak.com
Re: [videoblogging] fw: Mobile Videos: a Cybermohalla Ensemble discussion
Can't speak to the reception of the work then (also check out the other works), but Ivens is, well, an international monument in documentary and a demi-god of film in the Netherlands (and probably the Benelux countries to boot). This is the sort of work that influenced figures like Chris Marker. On 14/06/2008, at 7:47 PM, Kath O'Donnell wrote: thanks to both of you Rupert Adrian! I watched the film - I loved the reflections in the water and shadows. (similar bicycle shadows) I was wondering what people would have thought of him filming back then. cheers Adrian Miles [EMAIL PROTECTED] bachelor communication honours coordinator vogmae.net.au
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As one who loves mobile phone vlogging, these descriptions touched and inspired me. Thank you so much for posting them. Spot on. Jan -- Jan McLaughlin Production Sound Mixer air = 862-571-5334 aim = janofsound skype = janmclaughlin [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] fw: Mobile Videos: a Cybermohalla Ensemble discussion
I thought some here on VBL might appreciate these urban video glimpses of Delhi from sarai's cybermohalla ensemble text descriptions below for the video on youtube Cybermohalla is a project from Sarai in Delhi (sarai.net) Mohalla in Hindi and Urdu means neighbourhood. Sarai's Cybermohalla project takes on the meaning of the word mohalla, its sense of alleys and corners, its sense of relatedness and concreteness, as a means for talking about one's 'place' in the city, and in cyberspace. they have workshops and projects with young people from the streets of delhi. publications / documentation are created from their work http://www.sarai.net/practices/cybermohalla http://www.sarai.net/publications/cybermohalla -- Forwarded message -- From: Jeebesh Date: 2008/6/9 Subject: [Urbanstudy] Mobile Videos: a discussion To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear All, Below are the transcripts from the discussion on videos shot by mobile phones. The link to the mobile video Mobile Sketches Memory Card 01 is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbnSth4cxOY best Jeebesh - Extracts from a discussion on Mobile Videos Cybermohalla Ensemble June 2008 Suraj Rai: A mobile phone... It's in our pockets. We just take it with us to the fair, take it with us to the play, take it with us when going from one place to the other, carry it with us on the way. Kiran Verma: Often, while looking out of the window of a bus, I used to wonder... if I were to pause and think, what would I think about the outside? I made a mobile video of the view from the window of the bus. And then when I saw it later, I realised, while music played and people chatted, and there was a restlessness in the bus, people on the road were very quiet and completely solitary. Jaanu Nagar Just day before yesterday, in the evening, it was raining heavily. It is said a downpour can ruin many things. But when I stood and watched, it seemed to me everything was becoming more resplendent. I found this attractive. Everything looked so different from usual. Descriptions of rain are usually about how people run for shelter, leave what they are doing, But what I was seeing was something different. I thought a photo may not capture this difference. I wanted to see if I could make a video resonate with what I was thinking. I looked through the screen and started recording. Someone held an umbrella, another had covered himself with a plastic sheet. Someone was returning from work, a scarf thrown over his head. People were not running around. Some were buying vegetables for home. And there was a chowmein stall - It was open to the sky. The man was busy frying chowmien in the pan. I thought a photograph would not have helped me capture this style, the special music... Along with the raindrops was the sound chhan-chhan-chhan, as the stirrer moved in the pan, while everyone stood around under their umbrellas, waiting to eat. Tripan Kumar - That day my parents, my sisters and cousins - they all started dancing together, spontaneously. I had never seen them like this before. I mean, it wasn't any special occasion... We just happened to be in a room together, and everyone started dancing. The young and the old, all danced together. For no special reason. I'd never seen such a burst of joy, expressed in this way, inside a room, before. I was surprised. And I wanted to keep with myself this memory of having been surprised. Nasreen - It could be something banal. But was I attracted by it? If it attracted me, then it was significant enough to be shot. It's possible it remained banal for someone else. But if it seemed important to me, then, yes, it was something worthy of being looked at. Love Anand - For instance, I'd often look out of my window at the shadows cast by clothes put out to dry. These shadows would hover over the entire lane, and create a very special ambience. Shadows would glide over people's faces, knock against things. I'd always try to search a language to think, to describe this environment of shadows. Babli Rai - To make a mobile video, one doesn't need to go out in search of a special event or occasion. Mobile videos draw from the simplest moments of our lives. In that sense, the mobile phone camera makes one look for the special within the ordinary. A woman may wear make-up everyday. But to make a mobile video of this simple thing, makes her, her make-up and the ordinariness of that moment, special. Lakhmi Chand - One immediately thinks of a mobile video as being something personal. But mobile phone conversations, sms, photos, videos, ring tone etc have a velocity in everyday life - they get their life from being in circulation. That is why, even though mobile phones have very small screens, the staggered circulation of its images stretches their lived beyond the first moment in which they were taken. Love Anand - In the two years that we have been making mobile videos, it seems to me that all of us have deepened out ways
Re: [videoblogging] fw: Mobile Videos: a Cybermohalla Ensemble discussion
Kath! You rule! Thanks for posting this. I loved this quote and explanation from one of the participants - eloquent, beautiful: Descriptions of rain are usually about how people run for shelter, leave what they are doing. But what I was seeing was something different. I thought a photo may not capture this difference. I wanted to see if I could make a video resonate with what I was thinking. I looked through the screen and started recording. Someone held an umbrella, another had covered himself with a plastic sheet. Someone was returning from work, a scarf thrown over his head. People were not running around. Some were buying vegetables for home. And there was a chowmein stall - It was open to the sky. The man was busy frying chowmien in the pan. I thought a photograph would not have helped me capture this style, the special music... Along with the raindrops was the sound chhan-chhan-chhan, as the stirrer moved in the pan, while everyone stood around under their umbrellas, waiting to eat. --- On 13-Jun-08, at 7:35 AM, Kath O'Donnell wrote: Descriptions of rain are usually about how people run for shelter, leave what they are doing, But what I was seeing was something different. I thought a photo may not capture this difference. I wanted to see if I could make a video resonate with what I was thinking. I looked through the screen and started recording. Someone held an umbrella, another had covered himself with a plastic sheet. Someone was returning from work, a scarf thrown over his head. People were not running around. Some were buying vegetables for home. And there was a chowmein stall - It was open to the sky. The man was busy frying chowmien in the pan. I thought a photograph would not have helped me capture this style, the special music... Along with the raindrops was the sound chhan-chhan-chhan, as the stirrer moved in the pan, while everyone stood around under their umbrellas, waiting to eat. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Joris Ivens, Rain http://www.ivens.nl/film29-5.htm, 1929, 12 minutes. On 14/06/2008, at 7:03 AM, Rupert wrote: Descriptions of rain are usually about how people run for shelter, leave what they are doing. cheers Adrian Miles [EMAIL PROTECTED] bachelor communication honours coordinator vogmae.net.au
Re: [videoblogging] fw: Mobile Videos: a Cybermohalla Ensemble discussion
Thank you! I didn't know about that. I just found it on the Internet Archive: http://ia351416.us.archive.org/1/items/Regen/Regen.mp4 I'll watch it later. I love the whole idea of it. The late 20s produced such incredible things. On 13-Jun-08, at 2:40 PM, Adrian Miles wrote: Joris Ivens, Rain http://www.ivens.nl/film29-5.htm, 1929, 12 minutes. On 14/06/2008, at 7:03 AM, Rupert wrote: Descriptions of rain are usually about how people run for shelter, leave what they are doing. cheers Adrian Miles [EMAIL PROTECTED] bachelor communication honours coordinator vogmae.net.au [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
