Re: [videoblogging] video blog, the term of choice

2007-11-01 Thread Rupert
Yeah.  I agree. It's the term that people understand.
You yell vlog or video podcast, people go Huh? What?
You yell video blog, you got a panic on your hands on the fourth of  
July.

However, David Howell was raising concerns the other day on Twitter  
about the connotations of the term.  The general public knows the  
word, and they *think* they understand it...

BUT they think solely in terms of Youtube, and the picture that comes  
into their mind when you say 'video blog' is that of a person droning  
into their webcam at great length about what they've done today.   
People aren't aware that video blogs and user-generated (sorry)  
online video comes in a million flavours.  That's a barrier which  
stops intelligent and creative people being aware that there's  
challenging, varied and engaging new content online by independent  
vloggers, artists and filmmakers.   At best, they know about the big  
name shows.  And soon, they'll be spoonfed commercial 'channels' via  
things like Joost and Windows Media Center.

As a community, we now need to put as much (if not more) effort into  
evangelising about the content as we have previously put into  
evangelising about the technology.

Rupert
http://twittervlog.tv/
http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/


On 1 Nov 2007, at 06:37, Mike Meiser wrote:

I hadn't thought to check into this in a long while.

video blog vs. vlog vs. video podcast

Which terms is winning out?

http://www.google.com/trends?q=video+podcast%2C+vlog%2C+video+blog%2C 
+videoblogctab=0geo=alldate=allsort=0

Alternate tiny url:

http://tinyurl.com/3b6j4u

It would appear that video blog is THE clear term of choice, which
makes me quite happy. The masses have pretty much spoken at this
point. I think it's safe to say the dust is starting to settle and
can't forsee anything changing the picture anytime soon.

In fact the only thing more popular then video blog is simply
podcast, with an order of magnitude.

http://www.google.com/trends?q=video+blog%2C+podcast

On a side note it's interesting to note that while popularity the term
podcast has obviously peaked the term videoblog continues to rise very
steadily. Most interesting.

I would think that podcast is the prefered term for audio specific
media, but I could well be wrong, which brings me to my next point.

**Google can't tell us what people thing these terms mean.**

Do people think of podcasts as generally audio only?

What percentage of these articles that are refering to podcasts are
actually referring to video specific podcasts?

When people here video blog what do they think?

When people here video blog do they think simple youtube?

or do they think like a blog but instead of text primarily video?

Is blog itself yet a household term, or do people still think it means
to throw up?

And finally and most importantly... what is the state of RSS in all  
this?

My guess is the vast majority will never know the term, RSS. Nor do
they necissarily need to.

They may understand two things: 1) subscribing, 2) syndication (if
they make media).

RSS is undisputeably and undeniably integral to this space. As 1) a
subscription mechanism, 2) a serch mechanism, and 3) a syndication
mechanism even though the vast majority of the public may not know it
or even need to know it.

What interests me though, is how far have we come in loosening media
from the confines of the web page so it may flow freely beyond the
boundries of the traditional web to set top boxes, portable devices,
cell phones and such.

How far have we really gotten in that big picture?

What percentage of web originating video is viewed on a web page?

What percentage is viewed on the web page it originated on, as opposed
to through a syndication, reblog, or search site?

Just some late night ramblings.

-Mike
mefeedia.com
mmeiser.com/blog
evilvlog.com





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Re: [videoblogging] video blog, the term of choice

2007-11-01 Thread P. Dilly
you are correct, a video blog sounds more like a genre of video podcasting.
I still think that vidcasts was the best name.
Verizon advertises Vcasts so heavy on the TV. that vidcasts would be
understood rather easily.

On 11/1/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Yeah. I agree. It's the term that people understand.
 You yell vlog or video podcast, people go Huh? What?
 You yell video blog, you got a panic on your hands on the fourth of
 July.

 However, David Howell was raising concerns the other day on Twitter
 about the connotations of the term. The general public knows the
 word, and they *think* they understand it...

 BUT they think solely in terms of Youtube, and the picture that comes
 into their mind when you say 'video blog' is that of a person droning
 into their webcam at great length about what they've done today.
 People aren't aware that video blogs and user-generated (sorry)
 online video comes in a million flavours. That's a barrier which
 stops intelligent and creative people being aware that there's
 challenging, varied and engaging new content online by independent
 vloggers, artists and filmmakers. At best, they know about the big
 name shows. And soon, they'll be spoonfed commercial 'channels' via
 things like Joost and Windows Media Center.

 As a community, we now need to put as much (if not more) effort into
 evangelising about the content as we have previously put into
 evangelising about the technology.

 Rupert
 http://twittervlog.tv/
 http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/

 On 1 Nov 2007, at 06:37, Mike Meiser wrote:

 I hadn't thought to check into this in a long while.

 video blog vs. vlog vs. video podcast

 Which terms is winning out?

 http://www.google.com/trends?q=video+podcast%2C+vlog%2C+video+blog%2C
 +videoblogctab=0geo=alldate=allsort=0

 Alternate tiny url:

 http://tinyurl.com/3b6j4u

 It would appear that video blog is THE clear term of choice, which
 makes me quite happy. The masses have pretty much spoken at this
 point. I think it's safe to say the dust is starting to settle and
 can't forsee anything changing the picture anytime soon.

 In fact the only thing more popular then video blog is simply
 podcast, with an order of magnitude.

 http://www.google.com/trends?qhttp://www.google.com/trends?q=video+blog%2C+podcast
 =video+blog%2C+podcasthttp://www.google.com/trends?q=video+blog%2C+podcast

 On a side note it's interesting to note that while popularity the term
 podcast has obviously peaked the term videoblog continues to rise very
 steadily. Most interesting.

 I would think that podcast is the prefered term for audio specific
 media, but I could well be wrong, which brings me to my next point.

 **Google can't tell us what people thing these terms mean.**

 Do people think of podcasts as generally audio only?

 What percentage of these articles that are refering to podcasts are
 actually referring to video specific podcasts?

 When people here video blog what do they think?

 When people here video blog do they think simple youtube?

 or do they think like a blog but instead of text primarily video?

 Is blog itself yet a household term, or do people still think it means
 to throw up?

 And finally and most importantly... what is the state of RSS in all
 this?

 My guess is the vast majority will never know the term, RSS. Nor do
 they necissarily need to.

 They may understand two things: 1) subscribing, 2) syndication (if
 they make media).

 RSS is undisputeably and undeniably integral to this space. As 1) a
 subscription mechanism, 2) a serch mechanism, and 3) a syndication
 mechanism even though the vast majority of the public may not know it
 or even need to know it.

 What interests me though, is how far have we come in loosening media
 from the confines of the web page so it may flow freely beyond the
 boundries of the traditional web to set top boxes, portable devices,
 cell phones and such.

 How far have we really gotten in that big picture?

 What percentage of web originating video is viewed on a web page?

 What percentage is viewed on the web page it originated on, as opposed
 to through a syndication, reblog, or search site?

 Just some late night ramblings.

 -Mike
 mefeedia.com
 mmeiser.com/blog
 evilvlog.com

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Re: [videoblogging] video blog, the term of choice

2007-11-01 Thread Patrick Cook
Hi everyone:

On 11/1/07, P. Dilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Verizon advertises Vcasts so heavy on the TV. that vidcasts would be
  understood rather easily.

You mean like how Apple (Via iTunes) is capitalizing on the term
podcast?  Yeah, I'd have to agree.

But then again, you'd still have some people who don't know what a
vidcast is though.  Which is why I prefer to use the term video
podcast because it's pretty explainatory (Not to mention that almost
ANYONE who's been online is familiar with the term podcast because
it's been around like enough).

Cheers :D

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Pat Cook
Denver, Colorado
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[videoblogging] video blog, the term of choice

2007-10-31 Thread Mike Meiser
I hadn't thought to check into this in a long while.

video blog vs. vlog vs. video podcast

Which terms is winning out?

http://www.google.com/trends?q=video+podcast%2C+vlog%2C+video+blog%2C+videoblogctab=0geo=alldate=allsort=0

Alternate tiny url:

http://tinyurl.com/3b6j4u

It would appear that video blog is THE clear term of choice, which
makes me quite happy.  The masses have pretty much spoken at this
point. I think it's safe to say the dust is starting to settle and
can't forsee anything changing the picture anytime soon.

In fact the only thing more popular then video blog is simply
podcast, with an order of magnitude.

http://www.google.com/trends?q=video+blog%2C+podcast

On a side note it's interesting to note that while popularity the term
podcast has obviously peaked the term videoblog continues to rise very
steadily. Most interesting.

I would think that podcast is the prefered term for audio specific
media, but I could well be wrong, which brings me to my next point.

**Google can't tell us what people thing these terms mean.**

Do people think of podcasts as generally audio only?

What percentage of these articles that are refering to podcasts are
actually referring to video specific podcasts?

When people here video blog what do they think?

When people here video blog do they think simple youtube?

or do they think like a blog but instead of text primarily video?

Is blog itself yet a household term, or do people still think it means
to throw up?



And finally and most importantly... what is the state of RSS in all this?

My guess is the vast majority will never know the term, RSS. Nor do
they necissarily need to.

They may understand two things:  1) subscribing, 2) syndication (if
they make media).

RSS is undisputeably and undeniably integral to this space. As 1) a
subscription mechanism, 2) a serch mechanism, and 3) a syndication
mechanism even though the vast majority of the public may not know it
or even need to know it.

What interests me though, is how far have we come in loosening media
from the confines of the web page  so it may flow freely beyond the
boundries of the traditional web to set top boxes, portable devices,
cell phones and such.

How far have we really gotten in that big picture?

What percentage of web originating video is viewed on a web page?

What percentage is viewed on the web page it originated on, as opposed
to through a syndication, reblog, or search site?

Just some late night ramblings.

-Mike
mefeedia.com
mmeiser.com/blog
evilvlog.com