Re: [videoblogging] Re: My Amends To Robert Scoble

2007-12-28 Thread Jan McLaughlin
*Au contraire*, dear Frank, media makers rely on base human nature to produce content guaranteed to suck audiences in. If it bleeds, it leads mentality. Everywhere. Big media relies a great deal on tits, ass, sexual frustration, and various forms of perversion (torture wrapped in pretty ribbons

Re: [videoblogging] Re: My Amends To Robert Scoble

2007-12-28 Thread Jan McLaughlin
Watching. Brilliantly on point. More later. XO, Jan On Dec 28, 2007 10:17 AM, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 27, 2007, at 11:46 PM, Frank Sinton wrote: One big reason big media rings so false: advertisers control content. I have to disagree with that. Viewers control

Re: [videoblogging] Re: My Amends To Robert Scoble

2007-12-28 Thread Markus Sandy
On Dec 27, 2007, at 11:46 PM, Frank Sinton wrote: One big reason big media rings so false: advertisers control content. I have to disagree with that. Viewers control the content. Meaning, studios only fund productions they think audiences will watch, buy a movie ticket, purchase a DVD,

Re: [videoblogging] Re: My Amends To Robert Scoble

2007-12-28 Thread Ron Watson
Ads are less effective these for lots of reasons I'll not get into here. The result is television has resorted to Big Messages in their programming. It's those 'messages' I noticed as I spent the last six months viewing all the networks' top shows online or on DVD. The messages are

Re: [videoblogging] Re: My Amends To Robert Scoble

2007-12-28 Thread Ron Watson
Spot on indeed... My very first Recommended diary at Daily Kos back in '04. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/12/12/44450/883 While many people are under the impression that the customers of the media are the end users (viewers, readers, and listeners) that impression is incorrect. The

RE: [videoblogging] Re: My Amends To Robert Scoble

2007-12-28 Thread Jake Ludington
Why advertising is a dangerous way to go if you're interested in true things. Somehow I've managed to sleep well at night getting paid by advertisers for 6 years. Then again, I'm largely trying to help people be less frustrated with their computers, not change the world. One big reason big

Re: [videoblogging] Re: My Amends To Robert Scoble

2007-12-28 Thread Brook Hinton
Yup. If anything the group's vitality temperature shot out of the thermometer during the past week or so. Unless you measure a group's health primarily by a LACK of diversity and conflict. ___ Brook Hinton film/video/audio art

Re: [videoblogging] Re: My Amends To Robert Scoble

2007-12-28 Thread Jan McLaughlin
Ease up, lads. Keep it on point. Jan On Dec 28, 2007 2:44 PM, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then I suggest you look in the mirror then, cause you have done your fair share of nit picking. heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Delongchamp [EMAIL

Re: [videoblogging] Re: My Amends To Robert Scoble

2007-12-28 Thread Sull
i don't personally believe this nor do i think anyone could conjure up any form of proof to back this up. they are/were just a business entity trying to ride the wave of net video like so many others. they held this yahoo group up to exaggerative heights, or maybe that was just scoble... but

Re: [videoblogging] Re: My Amends To Robert Scoble

2007-12-28 Thread Patrick Delongchamp
At this point, I'd like to thank Brooke and Steve for responding to my comments. Steve, I hope you can appreciate the comments I made about how when people begin to agree, they stop contributing. If your posts feel ignored as you've often stated, please take into consideration. Even when you

Re: [videoblogging] Re: My Amends To Robert Scoble

2007-12-28 Thread Ron Watson
I didn't respond because I found your tone to be dismissive and I found your argument to be extremely weak and didn't really think it merited a reply. Not trying to egg you on, just trying to be honest. I've written far too much on this topic here, once again... But come on... Writers

RE: [videoblogging] Re: My Amends To Robert Scoble

2007-12-27 Thread Jake Ludington
Hint: eventually sponsors and employees get the message and move money away from a company that isn't getting community support. And, worse, it definitely demoralizes the employees and makes them far less willing to take risks on behalf of the community. I think this is BS too. If you

Re: [videoblogging] Re: My Amends To Robert Scoble

2007-12-27 Thread Jan McLaughlin
Why advertising is a dangerous way to go if you're interested in true things. One big reason big media rings so false: advertisers control content. Jan On Dec 27, 2007 10:37 PM, Jake Ludington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hint: eventually sponsors and employees get the message and move money

Re: [videoblogging] Re: My Amends To Robert Scoble

2007-12-26 Thread Eddie Codel
On Dec 26, 2007 4:31 PM, Kent Nichols [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But things started bogging down when they were focused more on developing a new flash player in house rather than selling sponsorships. I agree with this. That's one thing I could never understand. Why did PodTech feel the need to

RE: [videoblogging] Re: My Amends To Robert Scoble

2007-12-26 Thread Robert Scoble
I agree with this. That's one thing I could never understand. Why did PodTech feel the need to hire an engineering team to reinvent the wheel? That was a decision I had no impact on (there was an engineering team hired before I got there). As you know, I interviewed the Castfire guys and tried to

RE: [videoblogging] Re: My Amends To Robert Scoble

2007-12-26 Thread Robert Scoble
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] Re: My Amends To Robert Scoble And the great Scoble proves my point, narry a word from the manoh well Heath http://batmangeek. http://batmangeek.com com --- In videoblogging@ mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com

Re: [videoblogging] Re: My Amends To Robert Scoble

2007-12-26 Thread Andrew Baron
: [videoblogging] Re: My Amends To Robert Scoble And the great Scoble proves my point, narry a word from the manoh well Heath http://batmangeek. http://batmangeek.com com --- In videoblogging@ mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, Heath heathparks@ wrote