[videoblogging] Re: AVID parties
Yes, I think Final Cut Pro has emphasized the cinema film editing
process. Although version 5 does have multi-camera support.
;),
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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Ridley
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>
> I'm not sure what that means..the only AVID tools I have experinece
with are
> the Xpress line which, while more expensive than FInal Cut Pro or
Premiere,
> are not the systems you were looking at. But on the low end you can
get an
> AVID setup that competes with Final Cut Pro and is the same version
as the
> PC based edition.
>
> I'm not personally familiar with the Symophony/Media Composer/Unity
level of
> products, but as has been pointed out here they were originally
developed
> exclusively for Mac and only much later came to Windows. While I
suspect
> that FCP has stolen some of their thunder at the low end on Macs, as
far as
> I know you can still buy all of their products for either platform.
>
> Of course- another point to make is that AVID has various products and
> product lines for various markets. While some film stuff has been
moving to
> FCP, I'm not at all sure that FCP is popular in the realtime/news
arena. As
> far as I know, Apple has no products that compete with the AVID
workflow and
> clip archiving products for news production.
>
> -m
>
> On 12/7/05, Randolfe Wicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > My friend said that he finally had to switch to PC because money had
> > poured into AVID(I gather from Microsoft) to have them produce
programs for
> > three years before updating their Mac programs. He said that he
had "been
> > forced" out of using Mac because of this.
> >
> > He says that because of this "money-lobbying", AVID for Macs will
always
> > be three years behind, that Mac users will always be playing
catch-up. At
> > the meeting three months ago, they took a survey of those present
and about
> > 40% were "still using Macs".
> >
> >
> > Randolfe (Randy) Wicker
> >
> > Videographer, Writer, Activist
> > Advisor: The Immortality Institute
> > Hoboken, NJ
> > http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/
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> >
> >
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> > - Original Message -
> > *From:* Enric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > *To:* videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 07, 2005 3:12 PM
> > *Subject:* [videoblogging] Re: AVID parties
> >
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > >
> > > On Dec 7, 2005, at 1:52 PM, Randolfe Wicker wrote:
> > >
> > > > AVID systems are quite expensive and are used by real
professionals.
> > > > I eavesdropped on guys from major news networks talking about
their
> > > > rendering time problems, etc. They announced they would have AVID
> > for
> > > > Macs available by the end of 2005.
> >
> > LOL, Avid started on the Mac. I went to a Avid training class around
> > 1991.
> >
> > Final Cut Pro has been competing and taking away customers from Avid
> > recently. The film editor Walter Murch ("Apocalypse Now", "The
> > Godfather II", "The Conversation", "The Engligh Patient", etc.) has
> > been using Final Cut Pro for editing motion pictures since 2003 on
> > "Cold Mountain".
> >
> > -- Enric
> >
> > http://www.cirne.com
> > Determine the Media
> >
> > >
> > > They have a free version for Mac and PC:
> > >
> > > http://www.avid.com/freedv/index.asp
> > >
> > > > I doubt anyone there would even know what vlogging was about.
> > >
> > > Avid knows what blogging is about.
> > >
> > > --Steve
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: AVID parties
I'm not sure what that means..the only AVID tools I have experinece with are the Xpress line which, while more expensive than FInal Cut Pro or Premiere, are not the systems you were looking at. But on the low end you can get an AVID setup that competes with Final Cut Pro and is the same version as the PC based edition.
I'm not personally familiar with the Symophony/Media Composer/Unity level of products, but as has been pointed out here they were originally developed exclusively for Mac and only much later came to Windows. While I suspect that FCP has stolen some of their thunder at the low end on Macs, as far as I know you can still buy all of their products for either platform.
Of course- another point to make is that AVID has various products and product lines for various markets. While some film stuff has been moving to FCP, I'm not at all sure that FCP is popular in the realtime/news arena. As far as I know, Apple has no products that compete with the AVID workflow and clip archiving products for news production.
-mOn 12/7/05, Randolfe Wicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
My friend said that he finally had to switch to PC
because money had poured into AVID(I gather from Microsoft) to have them
produce programs for three years before updating their Mac programs. He said
that he had "been forced" out of using Mac because of this.
He says that because of this "money-lobbying", AVID
for Macs will always be three years behind, that Mac users will always be
playing catch-up. At the meeting three months ago, they took a survey of those
present and about 40% were "still using Macs".
Randolfe (Randy) Wicker
Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality
InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280
- Original Message -
From:
Enric
To:
videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 3:12
PM
Subject: [videoblogging] Re: AVID
parties
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com,
Steve Garfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...>
wrote:>> On Dec 7, 2005, at 1:52 PM, Randolfe Wicker
wrote:> > > AVID systems are quite expensive and are used by
real professionals. > > I eavesdropped on guys from major news
networks talking about their > > rendering time problems, etc.
They announced they would have AVIDfor > > Macs available by the
end of 2005.LOL, Avid started on the Mac. I went to a Avid
training class around1991.Final Cut Pro has been competing and
taking away customers from Avidrecently. The film editor Walter
Murch ("Apocalypse Now", "TheGodfather II", "The Conversation", "The
Engligh Patient", etc.) hasbeen using Final Cut Pro for editing motion
pictures since 2003 on"Cold Mountain". -- Enric
http://www.cirne.com Determine the
Media> > They have a free version for Mac and PC:>
> http://www.avid.com/freedv/index.asp>
> > I doubt anyone there would even know what vlogging was about.
> > Avid knows what blogging is about.> >
--Steve> -- > Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com> Video
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Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com>
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revolution.>
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[videoblogging] Re: AVID parties
I see, interesting. That may give some insight into the competition
between Avid and Final Cut Pro.
;),
Enric
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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> My friend said that he finally had to switch to PC because money had
poured into AVID(I gather from Microsoft) to have them produce
programs for three years before updating their Mac programs. He said
that he had "been forced" out of using Mac because of this.
>
> He says that because of this "money-lobbying", AVID for Macs will
always be three years behind, that Mac users will always be playing
catch-up. At the meeting three months ago, they took a survey of those
present and about 40% were "still using Macs".
>
>
> Randolfe (Randy) Wicker
>
> Videographer, Writer, Activist
> Advisor: The Immortality Institute
> Hoboken, NJ
> http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/
> 201-656-3280
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Enric
> To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 3:12 PM
> Subject: [videoblogging] Re: AVID parties
>
>
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >
> > On Dec 7, 2005, at 1:52 PM, Randolfe Wicker wrote:
> >
> > > AVID systems are quite expensive and are used by real
professionals.
> > > I eavesdropped on guys from major news networks talking about
their
> > > rendering time problems, etc. They announced they would have AVID
> for
> > > Macs available by the end of 2005.
>
> LOL, Avid started on the Mac. I went to a Avid training class around
> 1991.
>
> Final Cut Pro has been competing and taking away customers from Avid
> recently. The film editor Walter Murch ("Apocalypse Now", "The
> Godfather II", "The Conversation", "The Engligh Patient", etc.) has
> been using Final Cut Pro for editing motion pictures since 2003 on
> "Cold Mountain".
>
> -- Enric
>
> http://www.cirne.com
> Determine the Media
>
> >
> > They have a free version for Mac and PC:
> >
> > http://www.avid.com/freedv/index.asp
> >
> > > I doubt anyone there would even know what vlogging was about.
> >
> > Avid knows what blogging is about.
> >
> > --Steve
> > --
> > Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com
> > Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com
> > Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com
> >
> > Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution.
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: AVID parties
My friend said that he finally had to switch to PC
because money had poured into AVID(I gather from Microsoft) to have them
produce programs for three years before updating their Mac programs. He said
that he had "been forced" out of using Mac because of this.
He says that because of this "money-lobbying", AVID
for Macs will always be three years behind, that Mac users will always be
playing catch-up. At the meeting three months ago, they took a survey of those
present and about 40% were "still using Macs".
Randolfe (Randy) Wicker
Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality
InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280
- Original Message -
From:
Enric
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 3:12
PM
Subject: [videoblogging] Re: AVID
parties
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com,
Steve Garfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...>
wrote:>> On Dec 7, 2005, at 1:52 PM, Randolfe Wicker
wrote:> > > AVID systems are quite expensive and are used by
real professionals. > > I eavesdropped on guys from major news
networks talking about their > > rendering time problems, etc.
They announced they would have AVIDfor > > Macs available by the
end of 2005.LOL, Avid started on the Mac. I went to a Avid
training class around1991.Final Cut Pro has been competing and
taking away customers from Avidrecently. The film editor Walter
Murch ("Apocalypse Now", "TheGodfather II", "The Conversation", "The
Engligh Patient", etc.) hasbeen using Final Cut Pro for editing motion
pictures since 2003 on"Cold Mountain". -- Enric
http://www.cirne.com Determine the
Media> > They have a free version for Mac and PC:>
> http://www.avid.com/freedv/index.asp>
> > I doubt anyone there would even know what vlogging was about.
> > Avid knows what blogging is about.> >
--Steve> -- > Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com> Video
Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com>
Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com>
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: AVID parties
Speaking of Walter Murch, if you have not yet read his book *In the
Blink Of An Eye*...
On Dec 7, 2005, at 3:12 PM, Enric wrote:
> 1991.
>
> Final Cut Pro has been competing and taking away customers from Avid
> recently. The film editor Walter Murch ("Apocalypse Now", "The
> Godfather II", "The Conversation", "The Engligh Patient", etc.) has
> been using Final Cut Pro for editing motion pictures since 2003 on
> "Cold Mountain".
>
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[videoblogging] Re: AVID parties
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Dec 7, 2005, at 1:52 PM, Randolfe Wicker wrote:
>
> > AVID systems are quite expensive and are used by real professionals.
> > I eavesdropped on guys from major news networks talking about their
> > rendering time problems, etc. They announced they would have AVID
for
> > Macs available by the end of 2005.
LOL, Avid started on the Mac. I went to a Avid training class around
1991.
Final Cut Pro has been competing and taking away customers from Avid
recently. The film editor Walter Murch ("Apocalypse Now", "The
Godfather II", "The Conversation", "The Engligh Patient", etc.) has
been using Final Cut Pro for editing motion pictures since 2003 on
"Cold Mountain".
-- Enric
http://www.cirne.com
Determine the Media
>
> They have a free version for Mac and PC:
>
> http://www.avid.com/freedv/index.asp
>
> > I doubt anyone there would even know what vlogging was about.
>
> Avid knows what blogging is about.
>
> --Steve
> --
> Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com
> Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com
> Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com
>
> Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution.
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