Re: [videoblogging] Re: HDD for Video Blogging?

2006-04-06 Thread Harold Johnson



I've been looking at those hard driver camcorders, too, but I worry about their fragility.  Would the hard drives be able to withstand the abuse that I tend to put my camera through?  Maybe, maybe not...It's one thing to have a hard drive in an iPod (and of course, a laptop), but a camcorder?  Not unless I can swap out that hard drive if I ever need to...

 
Harold 
On 4/5/06, Le Grand Magistery, LLC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Bill, Thanks for the comments. Much appreciated. However, HDD stands for "Hard Disc Drive", not High Definition (actually, it is pretty confusing. They really should have made 
more of a differentiation between those two). With an HDD camcorder it's my understanding that you you don't need any tapes or discs or any other media to record onto. The camcorder houses a hard drive and you just record whenever and wherever and 
then plug the camera direct into the computer to upload your footage. I think HDD camcorders are available in both HD and SD (though maybe only SD right now?).
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
, "Bill Streeter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> I tend to be of the opinion that HD is just a little bit of overkill > for a video blog. Mostly because it's very very unlikely that you > would ever post full resolution HD footage on the internet--at least 
> anytime soon. Given the additional resources needed for a HD > workflow with the end result being just 320x240 highly compressed > seems like a waste to me. HD is more than just an investment in a 
> camera. Your editing system, hardware and software needs to be up to > snuff to handle it as you'll use more hard drive space and > processing power in handling HD.> > But that's just my opinion.
> > Bill Streeter> LO-FI SAINT LOUIS> www.lofistl.com> > --- In 
videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "legrandmagistery" >  wrote:> >> > We're thinking about starting a vlog. I read on Gizmodo the other > day about Sony coming out 
> > with an HDD Handycam (the DCR-SR100). After reading about that, I > also discovered the JVC > > already has a couple on the market (the Everio G Series). Do any > of you currently use an HDD 
> > camcorder? What are the advantages? The cameras seem a little more > expensive, but we > > wouldn't need to invest in any tapes, discs, or any other media, > so it seems pretty appealing 
> > and ideal for doing a vlog. What do you think? Any and all > help/opinions would be greatly > > appreciated as I'd love to get this thing going asap. Many thanks > in advance! > > 
> > P.S. If not an HDD camera, what other kinds of cameras do current > vloggers use that are > > reccomended?> >>




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Re: [videoblogging] Re: HDD for Video Blogging?

2006-04-06 Thread Michael Verdi



Those HDD camera could work for vlogging. They record video in mpeg2 which is a pain though - you have to demux it and convert to something else (DV) for editing. This works fine with MPEG Streamclip on a Mac but I haven't found something comparible on a PC. Anyone know of a good solution?
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[videoblogging] Re: HDD for Video Blogging?

2006-04-05 Thread Chuck Olsen

Please note that "HDD" and "HDV" are not the same. The original question
is about HDD cameras - Hard Disk Drive, i.e. tapeless cameras. Sony just
announced a new $1000 HDD camera which competes with JVC's Everio line.
This is quite handy because you just copy files instead of capturing from
tape. These cameras is *not* high definition, however.


HDV refers to High Definition Video on miniDV tapes. I also have one of
Sony's HDV cameras, the HC1. Most of the time I record in high def but
downconvert to DV to make editing go faster.

chuck
mnstories.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "toekneearm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I've been producing an online series using Sony's HDV cameras and while it 
> drives us 
crazy 
> in editing (go for a long lunch renders) it has several advantages. There is 
> more 
> information for the compressor to work with which appears to make a 
> difference. I had 
to 
> cut some DV 16:9 footage into a program and even after compression you could 
> tell a 
> difference.
> 
> T
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "legrandmagistery"  wrote:
> >
> > We're thinking about starting a vlog. I read on Gizmodo the other day about 
> > Sony 
> coming out 
> > with an HDD Handycam (the DCR-SR100). After reading about that, I also 
> > discovered 
the 
> JVC 
> > already has a couple on the market (the Everio G Series). Do any of you 
> > currently use 
an 
> HDD 
> > camcorder? What are the advantages? The cameras seem a little more 
> > expensive, but 
we 
> > wouldn't need to invest in any tapes, discs, or any other media, so it 
> > seems pretty 
> appealing 
> > and ideal for doing a vlog. What do you think? Any and all help/opinions 
> > would be 
> greatly 
> > appreciated as I'd love to get this thing going asap. Many thanks in 
> > advance! 
> > 
> > P.S. If not an HDD camera, what other kinds of cameras do current vloggers 
> > use that 
are 
> > reccomended?
> >
>






 
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[videoblogging] Re: HDD for Video Blogging?

2006-04-05 Thread toekneearm
I've been producing an online series using Sony's HDV cameras and while it 
drives us crazy 
in editing (go for a long lunch renders) it has several advantages. There is 
more 
information for the compressor to work with which appears to make a difference. 
I had to 
cut some DV 16:9 footage into a program and even after compression you could 
tell a 
difference.

T

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "legrandmagistery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> We're thinking about starting a vlog. I read on Gizmodo the other day about 
> Sony 
coming out 
> with an HDD Handycam (the DCR-SR100). After reading about that, I also 
> discovered the 
JVC 
> already has a couple on the market (the Everio G Series). Do any of you 
> currently use an 
HDD 
> camcorder? What are the advantages? The cameras seem a little more expensive, 
> but we 
> wouldn't need to invest in any tapes, discs, or any other media, so it seems 
> pretty 
appealing 
> and ideal for doing a vlog. What do you think? Any and all help/opinions 
> would be 
greatly 
> appreciated as I'd love to get this thing going asap. Many thanks in advance! 
> 
> P.S. If not an HDD camera, what other kinds of cameras do current vloggers 
> use that are 
> reccomended?
>







 
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[videoblogging] Re: HDD for Video Blogging?

2006-04-05 Thread Bill Streeter
You know after I posted this I was wondering if this was what you 
were talking about. DOH!!

I've heard that if you are a Mac user the HDD cams are kind of a 
pain in the arse to work with. But I like the idea of a tapeless 
workflow. I know that a lot of vloggers have been using a tapeless 
workflow for a while already using cameras that write to flash 
memory cards. So yeah HDD cams would seem to make some sense for 
vlogging. 

Bill Streeter
LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
www.lofistl.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Le Grand Magistery, LLC" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Bill, Thanks for the comments. Much appreciated. However, HDD 
stands for "Hard Disc 
> Drive", not High Definition (actually, it is pretty confusing. 
They really should have made 
> more of a differentiation between those two). With an HDD 
camcorder it's my 
> understanding that you you don't need any tapes or discs or any 
other media to record 
> onto. The camcorder houses a hard drive and you just record 
whenever and wherever and 
> then plug the camera direct into the computer to upload your 
footage. I think HDD 
> camcorders are available in both HD and SD (though maybe only SD 
right now?).
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Streeter"  
wrote:
> >
> > I tend to be of the opinion that HD is just a little bit of 
overkill 
> > for a video blog. Mostly because it's very very unlikely that 
you 
> > would ever post full resolution HD footage on the internet--at 
least 
> > anytime soon. Given the additional resources needed for a HD 
> > workflow with the end result being just 320x240 highly 
compressed 
> > seems like a waste to me. HD is more than just an investment in 
a 
> > camera. Your editing system, hardware and software needs to be 
up to 
> > snuff to handle it as you'll use more hard drive space and 
> > processing power in handling HD.
> > 
> > But that's just my opinion.
> > 
> > Bill Streeter
> > LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
> > www.lofistl.com
> > 
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "legrandmagistery" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > We're thinking about starting a vlog. I read on Gizmodo the 
other 
> > day about Sony coming out 
> > > with an HDD Handycam (the DCR-SR100). After reading about 
that, I 
> > also discovered the JVC 
> > > already has a couple on the market (the Everio G Series). Do 
any 
> > of you currently use an HDD 
> > > camcorder? What are the advantages? The cameras seem a little 
more 
> > expensive, but we 
> > > wouldn't need to invest in any tapes, discs, or any other 
media, 
> > so it seems pretty appealing 
> > > and ideal for doing a vlog. What do you think? Any and all 
> > help/opinions would be greatly 
> > > appreciated as I'd love to get this thing going asap. Many 
thanks 
> > in advance! 
> > > 
> > > P.S. If not an HDD camera, what other kinds of cameras do 
current 
> > vloggers use that are 
> > > reccomended?
> > >
> >
>







 
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[videoblogging] Re: HDD for Video Blogging?

2006-04-05 Thread Le Grand Magistery, LLC
Bill, Thanks for the comments. Much appreciated. However, HDD stands for "Hard 
Disc 
Drive", not High Definition (actually, it is pretty confusing. They really 
should have made 
more of a differentiation between those two). With an HDD camcorder it's my 
understanding that you you don't need any tapes or discs or any other media to 
record 
onto. The camcorder houses a hard drive and you just record whenever and 
wherever and 
then plug the camera direct into the computer to upload your footage. I think 
HDD 
camcorders are available in both HD and SD (though maybe only SD right now?).

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Streeter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I tend to be of the opinion that HD is just a little bit of overkill 
> for a video blog. Mostly because it's very very unlikely that you 
> would ever post full resolution HD footage on the internet--at least 
> anytime soon. Given the additional resources needed for a HD 
> workflow with the end result being just 320x240 highly compressed 
> seems like a waste to me. HD is more than just an investment in a 
> camera. Your editing system, hardware and software needs to be up to 
> snuff to handle it as you'll use more hard drive space and 
> processing power in handling HD.
> 
> But that's just my opinion.
> 
> Bill Streeter
> LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
> www.lofistl.com
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "legrandmagistery" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > We're thinking about starting a vlog. I read on Gizmodo the other 
> day about Sony coming out 
> > with an HDD Handycam (the DCR-SR100). After reading about that, I 
> also discovered the JVC 
> > already has a couple on the market (the Everio G Series). Do any 
> of you currently use an HDD 
> > camcorder? What are the advantages? The cameras seem a little more 
> expensive, but we 
> > wouldn't need to invest in any tapes, discs, or any other media, 
> so it seems pretty appealing 
> > and ideal for doing a vlog. What do you think? Any and all 
> help/opinions would be greatly 
> > appreciated as I'd love to get this thing going asap. Many thanks 
> in advance! 
> > 
> > P.S. If not an HDD camera, what other kinds of cameras do current 
> vloggers use that are 
> > reccomended?
> >
>







 
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[videoblogging] Re: HDD for Video Blogging?

2006-04-05 Thread Bill Streeter
I tend to be of the opinion that HD is just a little bit of overkill 
for a video blog. Mostly because it's very very unlikely that you 
would ever post full resolution HD footage on the internet--at least 
anytime soon. Given the additional resources needed for a HD 
workflow with the end result being just 320x240 highly compressed 
seems like a waste to me. HD is more than just an investment in a 
camera. Your editing system, hardware and software needs to be up to 
snuff to handle it as you'll use more hard drive space and 
processing power in handling HD.

But that's just my opinion.

Bill Streeter
LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
www.lofistl.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "legrandmagistery" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> We're thinking about starting a vlog. I read on Gizmodo the other 
day about Sony coming out 
> with an HDD Handycam (the DCR-SR100). After reading about that, I 
also discovered the JVC 
> already has a couple on the market (the Everio G Series). Do any 
of you currently use an HDD 
> camcorder? What are the advantages? The cameras seem a little more 
expensive, but we 
> wouldn't need to invest in any tapes, discs, or any other media, 
so it seems pretty appealing 
> and ideal for doing a vlog. What do you think? Any and all 
help/opinions would be greatly 
> appreciated as I'd love to get this thing going asap. Many thanks 
in advance! 
> 
> P.S. If not an HDD camera, what other kinds of cameras do current 
vloggers use that are 
> reccomended?
>






 
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