[videoblogging] Re: I held a Zune today...

2006-11-17 Thread Heath
yeah, if I want to record using it as a video camera.  I don't know 
if I will use it for that or not, I just like being able to record 
lost straight onto the device itself and not have to pay 1.99 for 
it...how quaint of me, I know.

Heath 
http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Harold Johnson 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sweet; I'll be interested in learning about your experience with the
 device.  There was an add-on camera you had to purchase in order to 
record
 video, right?
 
 Harold
 
 On 11/16/06, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Well, I won't be getting a Zune anytime soon because I just 
bought a
  new Archos 604 last night.. ;) Not the wi-fi one only because I
  have heard that the performance is a bit sluggish right now, but I
  think once they get to the 3rd generation on the wi-fi scence it 
will
  be pretty good and by that time I might need a new one.. ;)
 
  And in case anyone is wondering why I got the Archos 4.3 
widescreen,
  I can record from my dvr, satilite, tv, vcr, media center, it 
works
  with all the music I have currently and did I mention I can record
  with it?... ;) Expect a vlog once I get it.
 
  Heath
  http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%
40yahoogroups.com,
  Harold Johnson
 
  harold.johnson@ wrote:
  
   Hi Heath,
  
   Riddle me this...What's black and white and brown all over town?
   (Okay, I'll admit that I'm not much of a Riddler.) Seriously,
  though,
   I held the chocolate/caca Zune and thought, Okay, not bad, I 
like
  the
   way it feels, can't afford it right now and besides I may have a
   heckuva time finding anyone else to zap video and music to (but 
then
   again I'm in West L.A. so maybe there *will* be a few Zunesters 
in
  my
   neighborhood), Hmmm do I want this? and stuff to that effect. 
If
   you've gotta ask yourself Do I really want this? then maybe 
it's
  not
   for you -- unless, of course, your friends all get one and then 
Peer
   Pressure you into getting one so that you can be Zune-cool like
  them.
   (Or so they'll have you believe.)
  
   If I could afford a new toy, I might go for one. But then, if I 
had
   $250 to spare, I'll probably upgrade my recording equipment. I
  could
   really use an external mic for my Gmini, or a lavalier mic for 
my
   notebook, or a portable external hard drive, or sex with an
  unfamiliar
   woman. (I'm not one to *pay* for the last item, though. From the
   looks of me, though, I can understand why you'd think 
otherwise.)
  
   Let's just rock the Archos scene. For awhile I've been thinking 
of
   starting up a website -- call it Gmini's sake! But is the new 
Wi-
  Fi
   even called a Gmini anymore? Oh, well, there went that idea...If
  you
   *do* end up getting a Zune, though, please let me know so that 
we
  can
   zap eachother across the aether/'Net...I'll bet the hackers will
  come
   up with a way around the Wi-Fi and copyright restrictions 
sooner or
   later. Just give it a few months and I'll bet there will be 
hacked
   Zunes that end up being able to P2P without the current
  restrictions.
  
   Otherwise, we can always start our own company -- you know, like
  Rio?
   Build devices that never sell enough to make it worthwhile. (Or
   perhaps it *was* worthwhile; perhaps it made some folks rich. 
I'll
   say this for Rio: they were one of the earliest to bring MP3 
players
   to market. They also helped build the market that inspired 
Apple to
   come up with a more stylish/popular player.)
  
   Harold
   http://videoharold.com
   Not certain where all this
   is going...
  
  
  
   On 11/15/06, Heath heathparks@ wrote:
I really wanted to like the Zune, i really didbut for the
  life of
me I can't and I don't know why MS would put out something as 
half
baked as thisno jokes from Mac lovers please..I really
thought this was going to be a viable alternitive to the Ipod 
and
work with all the other PC stuff I have WMP, my walmart tunes
etc.but instead we got a even more closed system and a new
interface that won't work with the other MS stuff out 
there! it
just doesn't make sense, then to top it off they give a cut of
  their
player to Universal because Universal thinks we are 
thieves..
   
2 months ago I would have been first in line, now.I'll 
spend
  the
extra money on a new Archos.stupid microsoft.man they 
had
  a
chance, they really did, if they would wise up and add 
support for
the current stuff I had and make it work with the other 
services
  as
well (except Ipod because let's face it, I stand a better 
chance
  of
getting paid to vlog than we do of Jobs opening up the Ipod
  platform
to play with others) I would get one then
   
Heath
http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com
   
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%
40yahoogroups.com,
  sull sulleleven@ wrote:

[videoblogging] Re: I held a Zune today...

2006-11-16 Thread Heath
Well, I won't be getting a Zune anytime soon because I just bought a 
new Archos 604 last night..  ;)  Not the wi-fi one only because I 
have heard that the performance is a bit sluggish right now, but I 
think once they get to the 3rd generation on the wi-fi scence it will 
be pretty good and by that time I might need a new one..  ;)

And in case anyone is wondering why I got the Archos 4.3 widescreen, 
I can record from my dvr, satilite, tv, vcr, media center, it works 
with all the music I have currently and did I mention I can record 
with it?...  ;)  Expect a vlog once I get it.

Heath
http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Harold Johnson 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Heath,
 
 Riddle me this...What's black and white and brown all over town?
 (Okay, I'll admit that I'm not much of a Riddler.)  Seriously, 
though,
 I held the chocolate/caca Zune and thought, Okay, not bad, I like 
the
 way it feels, can't afford it right now and besides I may have a
 heckuva time finding anyone else to zap video and music to (but then
 again I'm in West L.A. so maybe there *will* be a few Zunesters in 
my
 neighborhood), Hmmm do I want this? and stuff to that effect.  If
 you've gotta ask yourself Do I really want this? then maybe it's 
not
 for you -- unless, of course, your friends all get one and then Peer
 Pressure you into getting one so that you can be Zune-cool like 
them.
 (Or so they'll have you believe.)
 
 If I could afford a new toy, I might go for one.  But then, if I had
 $250 to spare, I'll probably upgrade my recording equipment.  I 
could
 really use an external mic for my Gmini, or a lavalier mic for my
 notebook, or a portable external hard drive, or sex with an 
unfamiliar
 woman.  (I'm not one to *pay* for the last item, though.  From the
 looks of me, though, I can understand why you'd think otherwise.)
 
 Let's just rock the Archos scene.  For awhile I've been thinking of
 starting up a website -- call it Gmini's sake!  But is the new Wi-
Fi
 even called a Gmini anymore?  Oh, well, there went that idea...If 
you
 *do* end up getting a Zune, though, please let me know so that we 
can
 zap eachother across the aether/'Net...I'll bet the hackers will 
come
 up with a way around the Wi-Fi and copyright restrictions sooner or
 later.  Just give it a few months and I'll bet there will be hacked
 Zunes that end up being able to P2P without the current 
restrictions.
 
 Otherwise, we can always start our own company -- you know, like 
Rio?
 Build devices that never sell enough to make it worthwhile.  (Or
 perhaps it *was* worthwhile; perhaps it made some folks rich.  I'll
 say this for Rio: they were one of the earliest to bring MP3 players
 to market.  They also helped build the market that inspired Apple to
 come up with a more stylish/popular player.)
 
 Harold
 http://videoharold.com
 Not certain where all this
 is going...
 
 
 
 On 11/15/06, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I really wanted to like the Zune, i really didbut for the 
life of
  me I can't and I don't know why MS would put out something as half
  baked as thisno jokes from Mac lovers please..I really
  thought this was going to be a viable alternitive to the Ipod and
  work with all the other PC stuff I have WMP, my walmart tunes
  etc.but instead we got a even more closed system and a new
  interface that won't work with the other MS stuff out there! it
  just doesn't make sense, then to top it off they give a cut of 
their
  player to Universal because Universal thinks we are thieves..
 
  2 months ago I would have been first in line, now.I'll spend 
the
  extra money on a new Archos.stupid microsoft.man they had 
a
  chance, they really did, if they would wise up and add support for
  the current stuff I had and make it work with the other services 
as
  well (except Ipod because let's face it, I stand a better chance 
of
  getting paid to vlog than we do of Jobs opening up the Ipod 
platform
  to play with others)  I would get one then
 
  Heath
  http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, sull sulleleven@ wrote:
  
   http://spicygadgetroll.blogspot.com/2006/11/cnnzuneno-love-can-
i-
  show-you-my-new.html
  
   On 11/15/06, WWWhatsup joly@ wrote:
   
   
I liked the idea of being able to zap vids to other people 
til I
read this:
   
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/09/technology/09pogue.html?
  pagewanted=2
   
You can play a transmitted song only three times, all within 
three
days. After that, it expires. You're left with only a text tag
  that
shows up on your PC so that — how convenient! — you can buy 
the
  song
from Microsoft's store.
   
This copy protection is as strict as a 19th-century 
schoolmarm.
  Just
playing half the song (or one minute, whichever comes first)
  counts as
one play. You can never resend a song to the same friend. A
  beamed
song can't be passed along to 

Re: [videoblogging] Re: I held a Zune today...

2006-11-16 Thread Harold Johnson
Sweet; I'll be interested in learning about your experience with the
device.  There was an add-on camera you had to purchase in order to record
video, right?

Harold

On 11/16/06, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Well, I won't be getting a Zune anytime soon because I just bought a
 new Archos 604 last night.. ;) Not the wi-fi one only because I
 have heard that the performance is a bit sluggish right now, but I
 think once they get to the 3rd generation on the wi-fi scence it will
 be pretty good and by that time I might need a new one.. ;)

 And in case anyone is wondering why I got the Archos 4.3 widescreen,
 I can record from my dvr, satilite, tv, vcr, media center, it works
 with all the music I have currently and did I mention I can record
 with it?... ;) Expect a vlog once I get it.

 Heath
 http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 Harold Johnson

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi Heath,
 
  Riddle me this...What's black and white and brown all over town?
  (Okay, I'll admit that I'm not much of a Riddler.) Seriously,
 though,
  I held the chocolate/caca Zune and thought, Okay, not bad, I like
 the
  way it feels, can't afford it right now and besides I may have a
  heckuva time finding anyone else to zap video and music to (but then
  again I'm in West L.A. so maybe there *will* be a few Zunesters in
 my
  neighborhood), Hmmm do I want this? and stuff to that effect. If
  you've gotta ask yourself Do I really want this? then maybe it's
 not
  for you -- unless, of course, your friends all get one and then Peer
  Pressure you into getting one so that you can be Zune-cool like
 them.
  (Or so they'll have you believe.)
 
  If I could afford a new toy, I might go for one. But then, if I had
  $250 to spare, I'll probably upgrade my recording equipment. I
 could
  really use an external mic for my Gmini, or a lavalier mic for my
  notebook, or a portable external hard drive, or sex with an
 unfamiliar
  woman. (I'm not one to *pay* for the last item, though. From the
  looks of me, though, I can understand why you'd think otherwise.)
 
  Let's just rock the Archos scene. For awhile I've been thinking of
  starting up a website -- call it Gmini's sake! But is the new Wi-
 Fi
  even called a Gmini anymore? Oh, well, there went that idea...If
 you
  *do* end up getting a Zune, though, please let me know so that we
 can
  zap eachother across the aether/'Net...I'll bet the hackers will
 come
  up with a way around the Wi-Fi and copyright restrictions sooner or
  later. Just give it a few months and I'll bet there will be hacked
  Zunes that end up being able to P2P without the current
 restrictions.
 
  Otherwise, we can always start our own company -- you know, like
 Rio?
  Build devices that never sell enough to make it worthwhile. (Or
  perhaps it *was* worthwhile; perhaps it made some folks rich. I'll
  say this for Rio: they were one of the earliest to bring MP3 players
  to market. They also helped build the market that inspired Apple to
  come up with a more stylish/popular player.)
 
  Harold
  http://videoharold.com
  Not certain where all this
  is going...
 
 
 
  On 11/15/06, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I really wanted to like the Zune, i really didbut for the
 life of
   me I can't and I don't know why MS would put out something as half
   baked as thisno jokes from Mac lovers please..I really
   thought this was going to be a viable alternitive to the Ipod and
   work with all the other PC stuff I have WMP, my walmart tunes
   etc.but instead we got a even more closed system and a new
   interface that won't work with the other MS stuff out there! it
   just doesn't make sense, then to top it off they give a cut of
 their
   player to Universal because Universal thinks we are thieves..
  
   2 months ago I would have been first in line, now.I'll spend
 the
   extra money on a new Archos.stupid microsoft.man they had
 a
   chance, they really did, if they would wise up and add support for
   the current stuff I had and make it work with the other services
 as
   well (except Ipod because let's face it, I stand a better chance
 of
   getting paid to vlog than we do of Jobs opening up the Ipod
 platform
   to play with others) I would get one then
  
   Heath
   http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com
  
   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 sull sulleleven@ wrote:
   
http://spicygadgetroll.blogspot.com/2006/11/cnnzuneno-love-can-
 i-
   show-you-my-new.html
   
On 11/15/06, WWWhatsup joly@ wrote:


 I liked the idea of being able to zap vids to other people
 til I
 read this:

 http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/09/technology/09pogue.html?
   pagewanted=2

 You can play a transmitted song only three times, all within
 three
 days. After that, it expires. You're left with only a text tag
   that
 shows up on your 

[videoblogging] Re: I held a Zune today...

2006-11-15 Thread Heath
I really wanted to like the Zune, i really didbut for the life of 
me I can't and I don't know why MS would put out something as half 
baked as thisno jokes from Mac lovers please..I really 
thought this was going to be a viable alternitive to the Ipod and 
work with all the other PC stuff I have WMP, my walmart tunes 
etc.but instead we got a even more closed system and a new 
interface that won't work with the other MS stuff out there! it 
just doesn't make sense, then to top it off they give a cut of their 
player to Universal because Universal thinks we are thieves..

2 months ago I would have been first in line, now.I'll spend the 
extra money on a new Archos.stupid microsoft.man they had a 
chance, they really did, if they would wise up and add support for 
the current stuff I had and make it work with the other services as 
well (except Ipod because let's face it, I stand a better chance of 
getting paid to vlog than we do of Jobs opening up the Ipod platform 
to play with others)  I would get one then

Heath
http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://spicygadgetroll.blogspot.com/2006/11/cnnzuneno-love-can-i-
show-you-my-new.html
 
 On 11/15/06, WWWhatsup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  I liked the idea of being able to zap vids to other people til I
  read this:
 
  http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/09/technology/09pogue.html?
pagewanted=2
 
  You can play a transmitted song only three times, all within three
  days. After that, it expires. You're left with only a text tag 
that
  shows up on your PC so that — how convenient! — you can buy the 
song
  from Microsoft's store.
 
  This copy protection is as strict as a 19th-century schoolmarm. 
Just
  playing half the song (or one minute, whichever comes first) 
counts as
  one play. You can never resend a song to the same friend. A 
beamed
  song can't be passed along to a third person, either.
 
  What's really nuts is that the restrictions even stomp on your own
  musical creations. Microsoft's literature suggests that if you 
have a
  struggling rock band, you could put your demo recordings on your 
Zune
  and when you're out in public, you can send the songs to your
  friends. What it doesn't say: And then three days later, just 
when
  buzz about your band is beginning to build, your songs disappear 
from
  everyone's Zunes, making you look like an idiot.
 
  At 01:26 AM 11/15/2006, you wrote:
  I don't know any of the specs, but the video quality/control on 
it
  actually
  seems pretty good.
 
  --
  WWWhatsup NYC
  http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com
  --
 
   
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Sull
 http://vlogdir.com (a project)
 http://SpreadTheMedia.org (my blog)
 http://interdigitate.com (otherly)
 
 
 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]






Re: [videoblogging] Re: I held a Zune today...

2006-11-15 Thread Harold Johnson
Hi Heath,

Riddle me this...What's black and white and brown all over town?
(Okay, I'll admit that I'm not much of a Riddler.)  Seriously, though,
I held the chocolate/caca Zune and thought, Okay, not bad, I like the
way it feels, can't afford it right now and besides I may have a
heckuva time finding anyone else to zap video and music to (but then
again I'm in West L.A. so maybe there *will* be a few Zunesters in my
neighborhood), Hmmm do I want this? and stuff to that effect.  If
you've gotta ask yourself Do I really want this? then maybe it's not
for you -- unless, of course, your friends all get one and then Peer
Pressure you into getting one so that you can be Zune-cool like them.
(Or so they'll have you believe.)

If I could afford a new toy, I might go for one.  But then, if I had
$250 to spare, I'll probably upgrade my recording equipment.  I could
really use an external mic for my Gmini, or a lavalier mic for my
notebook, or a portable external hard drive, or sex with an unfamiliar
woman.  (I'm not one to *pay* for the last item, though.  From the
looks of me, though, I can understand why you'd think otherwise.)

Let's just rock the Archos scene.  For awhile I've been thinking of
starting up a website -- call it Gmini's sake!  But is the new Wi-Fi
even called a Gmini anymore?  Oh, well, there went that idea...If you
*do* end up getting a Zune, though, please let me know so that we can
zap eachother across the aether/'Net...I'll bet the hackers will come
up with a way around the Wi-Fi and copyright restrictions sooner or
later.  Just give it a few months and I'll bet there will be hacked
Zunes that end up being able to P2P without the current restrictions.

Otherwise, we can always start our own company -- you know, like Rio?
Build devices that never sell enough to make it worthwhile.  (Or
perhaps it *was* worthwhile; perhaps it made some folks rich.  I'll
say this for Rio: they were one of the earliest to bring MP3 players
to market.  They also helped build the market that inspired Apple to
come up with a more stylish/popular player.)

Harold
http://videoharold.com
Not certain where all this
is going...



On 11/15/06, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I really wanted to like the Zune, i really didbut for the life of
 me I can't and I don't know why MS would put out something as half
 baked as thisno jokes from Mac lovers please..I really
 thought this was going to be a viable alternitive to the Ipod and
 work with all the other PC stuff I have WMP, my walmart tunes
 etc.but instead we got a even more closed system and a new
 interface that won't work with the other MS stuff out there! it
 just doesn't make sense, then to top it off they give a cut of their
 player to Universal because Universal thinks we are thieves..

 2 months ago I would have been first in line, now.I'll spend the
 extra money on a new Archos.stupid microsoft.man they had a
 chance, they really did, if they would wise up and add support for
 the current stuff I had and make it work with the other services as
 well (except Ipod because let's face it, I stand a better chance of
 getting paid to vlog than we do of Jobs opening up the Ipod platform
 to play with others)  I would get one then

 Heath
 http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  http://spicygadgetroll.blogspot.com/2006/11/cnnzuneno-love-can-i-
 show-you-my-new.html
 
  On 11/15/06, WWWhatsup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
   I liked the idea of being able to zap vids to other people til I
   read this:
  
   http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/09/technology/09pogue.html?
 pagewanted=2
  
   You can play a transmitted song only three times, all within three
   days. After that, it expires. You're left with only a text tag
 that
   shows up on your PC so that — how convenient! — you can buy the
 song
   from Microsoft's store.
  
   This copy protection is as strict as a 19th-century schoolmarm.
 Just
   playing half the song (or one minute, whichever comes first)
 counts as
   one play. You can never resend a song to the same friend. A
 beamed
   song can't be passed along to a third person, either.
  
   What's really nuts is that the restrictions even stomp on your own
   musical creations. Microsoft's literature suggests that if you
 have a
   struggling rock band, you could put your demo recordings on your
 Zune
   and when you're out in public, you can send the songs to your
   friends. What it doesn't say: And then three days later, just
 when
   buzz about your band is beginning to build, your songs disappear
 from
   everyone's Zunes, making you look like an idiot.
  
   At 01:26 AM 11/15/2006, you wrote:
   I don't know any of the specs, but the video quality/control on
 it
   actually
   seems pretty good.
  
   --
   WWWhatsup NYC
   http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com