Re: [videoblogging] Re: Interconnected services / security of data / APIs

2005-09-08 Thread Joshua Kinberg
We moved much of the developers discussion to a different list.
There are initiatives to share feeds between various directories as
well as sharing tag data.
FireANT, MeFeedia, Blip, VlogDir, VlogMap, and others are participating.
Be patient, we are all working on these individual services, which
takes precedence before we begin opening them up and sharing them,
which is the plan. FireANT and MeFeedia both have the beginnings of
open APIs in development.

-Josh


On 9/8/05, Enric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks for bringing this up.  I've been wondering about tagging which
> I haven't used yet.  It seems so unstructured and open that I'm not
> sure how to tag things so they'll be found.  I would think people can
> use several words for the same meaning.  And one word can have several
> meanings.  I do think tags need to be loosely coupled, but I think
> there should be some recommended structure and guidelines.
> 
>-- Enric
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > Sorry Ive just got thoughts related to my previous opensource ranting
> > buzzing round my head, but a bit more specific, Im remembering some of
> > my reasons for caring about this stuff.
> >
> > A while ago when many of the tools were new and still in initial
> > development, there used to be a lot more tech talk here about things
> > such as tags and how differnt applications could connect to different
> > websites, how different sites could ahre data with eachother etc.
> >
> > Now theres been loads of great progress in these areas, and Im a bit
> > out of date with it all. But I recall that at least once or twice, we
> > got onto issues about how different services could share data, make
> > tagging more effective, etc. I dont hear so much about this stuff here
> > recently, so I wondered how things like mefeedia and fireants tagging
> > stuff is doing. Are there many or any impenetrable islands of data,
> > and pieces of the videoblogging services/software jigsaw that are
> > totally disconnected. All with the aim of making tagging etc systems
> > more useful by having data from multiple sources etc, that sort of
> thing.
> >
> > Pete used the word 'trust' a few imes in his reply to me, which is
> > understandable, but my opensource rants werent really about trust. If
> > I didnt trust any person, service or software, Id never use it in the
> > first place. Its far more about having 'redundancy' in the system, if
> > one server, service or app dissapears for any reason, how badly does
> > it affect videobloggers? Is there any way to help guard against this,
> > can opensource play a part?
> >
> > To what extent is datasharing between services occuring already, are
> > any of them feature & datarich enough, and matured enough to the
> > developers satisfaction, to ideally offer API's of their own?
> >
> > Or if none of this makes sense or Ive gone in at too narrow an angle
> > to have a conversation about it, hows the videoblogging world doing
> > with metadata sharing and metadata in general? Is tagging working for
> > videoblogs, do any of these topics have anything to do with whether we
> > could ever offer a better videoblog viewer stats system. What was the
> > final outcome of the debate about how a non-centralised videoblog
> > directory for use by apps like fireant is best achieved? How did I get
> > so out of date on all this stuff?
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Steve of Elbows
> 
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[videoblogging] Re: Interconnected services / security of data / APIs

2005-09-08 Thread Enric
Thanks for bringing this up.  I've been wondering about tagging which
I haven't used yet.  It seems so unstructured and open that I'm not
sure how to tag things so they'll be found.  I would think people can
use several words for the same meaning.  And one word can have several
meanings.  I do think tags need to be loosely coupled, but I think
there should be some recommended structure and guidelines.

   -- Enric

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sorry Ive just got thoughts related to my previous opensource ranting
> buzzing round my head, but a bit more specific, Im remembering some of
> my reasons for caring about this stuff.
> 
> A while ago when many of the tools were new and still in initial
> development, there used to be a lot more tech talk here about things
> such as tags and how differnt applications could connect to different
> websites, how different sites could ahre data with eachother etc.
> 
> Now theres been loads of great progress in these areas, and Im a bit
> out of date with it all. But I recall that at least once or twice, we
> got onto issues about how different services could share data, make
> tagging more effective, etc. I dont hear so much about this stuff here
> recently, so I wondered how things like mefeedia and fireants tagging
> stuff is doing. Are there many or any impenetrable islands of data,
> and pieces of the videoblogging services/software jigsaw that are
> totally disconnected. All with the aim of making tagging etc systems
> more useful by having data from multiple sources etc, that sort of
thing.
> 
> Pete used the word 'trust' a few imes in his reply to me, which is
> understandable, but my opensource rants werent really about trust. If
> I didnt trust any person, service or software, Id never use it in the
> first place. Its far more about having 'redundancy' in the system, if
> one server, service or app dissapears for any reason, how badly does
> it affect videobloggers? Is there any way to help guard against this,
> can opensource play a part? 
> 
> To what extent is datasharing between services occuring already, are
> any of them feature & datarich enough, and matured enough to the
> developers satisfaction, to ideally offer API's of their own?
> 
> Or if none of this makes sense or Ive gone in at too narrow an angle
> to have a conversation about it, hows the videoblogging world doing
> with metadata sharing and metadata in general? Is tagging working for
> videoblogs, do any of these topics have anything to do with whether we
> could ever offer a better videoblog viewer stats system. What was the
> final outcome of the debate about how a non-centralised videoblog
> directory for use by apps like fireant is best achieved? How did I get
> so out of date on all this stuff?  
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Steve of Elbows





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