Re: [videoblogging] Re: quoting, tagging and smallest narrative elements
I like the idea of allowing users to annotate videos with the quote tool... Think flickr's annotation tool, but ours is time based. Someone makes an edit and then enters a comment. Then on the video page it appears down below the video with the other comments not on the video like flickr does with photos.So, the user can not only read the annotation... but click on a link and watch the annotation... Right there in the page. Oh, and perhaps they could tag the annotation too. Pretty cool. It's all very conversational.Perhaps somehow we can make it so people can add it to their blogs... with a link or something. Or perhaps a _javascript_ thingy they drop in their vlog post... perhaps a link thingy that they enable like feedburner's feedflare that shows up in the RSS... it's all very doable.So... why would people use this? In a word, panels, speaches, conferences You can directly reference a portion of a video and comment on it. Panels, speaches, and conferences rock.Well, peace,-MikeOn Jan 6, 2006, at 9:17 AM, Devlon wrote: The quoting at Mefeedia was a bit clunky. It was too slow to scan to the quoted pieces.On 1/6/06, duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/6/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, tagging segments of video that can next be linked, aggregated and re-connected, etc. is a project I've been conceptualizing, drawing some prototypes and starting to work on (initially in Flash.) sounds good, and great to know people are looking at these possibilities.. i built a similar system in director a few years ago.. the main problem is the aggregation of online material. it was fine for marking material that i imported in manually, but how do we work with material in peoples feeds/blogs? i think peter was heading in the right direction with his quoting system.. (any ideas how that worked? peter is away at the moment).. somehow it needs to be able to tag stuff and maybe (just maybe) let people download only the tagged segment? d -- URL: http://29fragiledays.blogspot.com URL: http://www.kleindesign.co.uk SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- ~DevlonBlog: http://devlond.blogspot.comVlog: http://8bitme.blogspot.com http://mefeedia.com -OR- http://mefeedia.com/blog YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: quoting, tagging and smallest narrative elements
Well, tagging segments of video that can next be linked, aggregated and re-connected, etc. is a project I've been conceptualizing, drawing some prototypes and starting to work on (initially in Flash.) I consider this externalized editing (of the basic, traditional straight cut edit) that is immediate and dynamic. -- Enric -==- http://www.cirne.com Determine Media --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so the thought that has been keeping me up recently is about tagging sections of video. I've been playing with the korsakov system recently URL: http://www.korsakow.com/ksy/index.html developed by Florian Thalhofer URL: http://www.thalhofer.com/ for building non-linear films and he talks about the idea of SNEs (smallest narrative elements), now these can be stills, sections of film, audio, basically the minimum amount of something that contributes to the narrative. so how does this relate to vlogging? well.. is there a way to tag sections of a video, mefeedia had a quoting system (has that disappeared Peter?), how would you add tags to this? or maybe there is a better way.. i don;t know.. but i like the idea of being able to subscribe to a series of tags in del.icio.us (or equivalent), say 'rain' and 'beauty', and then getting to watch a generative film about beauty and rain. the reason i think tagging sections is great is that the film that gets compiled is continous, a fireant edit so to speak, without the credits inbetween each clip, and without the associated narrative of the film the section came from. does this make sense? i guess i'm asking for both technical and theoretical input or ideas here.. there's definitely more to this idea than i can think of ! be well d -- URL: http://29fragiledays.blogspot.com URL: http://www.kleindesign.co.uk Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: quoting, tagging and smallest narrative elements
On 1/6/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, tagging segments of video that can next be linked, aggregated and re-connected, etc. is a project I've been conceptualizing, drawing some prototypes and starting to work on (initially in Flash.) sounds good, and great to know people are looking at these possibilities.. i built a similar system in director a few years ago.. the main problem is the aggregation of online material. it was fine for marking material that i imported in manually, but how do we work with material in peoples feeds/blogs? i think peter was heading in the right direction with his quoting system.. (any ideas how that worked? peter is away at the moment).. somehow it needs to be able to tag stuff and maybe (just maybe) let people download only the tagged segment? d -- URL: http://29fragiledays.blogspot.com URL: http://www.kleindesign.co.uk SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: quoting, tagging and smallest narrative elements
The quoting at Mefeedia was a bit clunky. It was too slow to scan to the quoted pieces.On 1/6/06, duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/6/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, tagging segments of video that can next be linked, aggregated and re-connected, etc. is a project I've been conceptualizing, drawing some prototypes and starting to work on (initially in Flash.) sounds good, and great to know people are looking at these possibilities.. i built a similar system in director a few years ago.. the main problem is the aggregation of online material. it was fine for marking material that i imported in manually, but how do we work with material in peoples feeds/blogs? i think peter was heading in the right direction with his quoting system.. (any ideas how that worked? peter is away at the moment).. somehow it needs to be able to tag stuff and maybe (just maybe) let people download only the tagged segment? d -- URL: http://29fragiledays.blogspot.com URL: http://www.kleindesign.co.uk SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- ~DevlonBlog: http://devlond.blogspot.comVlog: http://8bitme.blogspot.com http://mefeedia.com -OR- http://mefeedia.com/blog YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: quoting, tagging and smallest narrative elements
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/6/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, tagging segments of video that can next be linked, aggregated and re-connected, etc. is a project I've been conceptualizing, drawing some prototypes and starting to work on (initially in Flash.) sounds good, and great to know people are looking at these possibilities. . i built a similar system in director a few years ago.. the main problem is the aggregation of online material. it was fine for marking material that i imported in manually, but how do we work with material in peoples feeds/blogs? i think peter was heading in the right direction with his quoting system.. (any ideas how that worked? peter is away at the moment).. somehow it needs to be able to tag stuff and maybe (just maybe) let people download only the tagged segment? Well the problem I see is starting to send a file not from the beginning, but from the start of a tagged point (probably identified as SMTP Timecode to file byte location) to the end point. Different file formats have different capabilities. Some may not easily allow sending from and streaming from a file midpoint. -- Enric d -- -- URL: http://29fragiledays.blogspot.com URL: http://www.kleindesign.co.uk Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
