Re: [videoblogging] Re: Old movies on the Internet?
Jack Nelson says: "I don't see why watching old movies make you unable to stay young. I'm 55 years old and love old movies, new movies, vlogs, classical music, rock music, computers and the internet. They are not mutually exclusive. Certain peoples brains may exclude any of these things, but that is their problem, not the media's problem." Movies reflect the values of their day. There is nothing wrong with watching selected old movies. However, many people become trapped "in their times" by becoming fixated on movies made only in one time period while totally ignoring current offerings. The problem with the media in general is that it is a vast wasteland. I have two hundred channels to choose between and sometimes can't find one mentally stimulating thing to watch. Letting media "sink" to the common mindless level is a social tragedy. That is why we have entertainment-style journalism that focuses on the lives of celebrities instead of important news of the day. We used to have guidelines that required so many minutes of news, the right to free "equal time" to those attacked in the media, so many minutes for public service announcements, etc. That has all gotten lost. Jack Nelson continues: "As a big fan of cinema I always am surprised at the lack of knowledge that young people have of old films. I've heard many comments like "I never watch anything made before 1970" or something similar. This is just as bad as not watching anything new. Watch it all! Soak it up! Learn from everyone!" This is just the flip side of what I am saying. People become the prisoner of "their time" and don't learn, grow and change as they get older. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Jack Nelson To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 9:02 AM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Old movies on the Internet? --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: I just read a news story that they are going to make all these old movies available on the Internet. This makes me suspect that we vloggers are going to get lost between Bette Davis and "Laurel Hardy". People, like water, seem to seek the lowest common level. If they are going to put old movies on the internet, so what? Unless you yourself are putting movies on the internet you're not really "competting" with them anyway. People who want to watch vlogs will still want to watch vlogs (even if the occasionally watch old movies) I know that there are "great" old movies. However, I have a special prejudice against them. I'm sixty-seven years old. When I go to some gathering of men, especially gay men my own age, they aren't talking about the new exciting "TransGeneration" documentary on Sundance or offerings on the new (unique) gay cable channels like Logo or "Here! On Demand". No, they are talk about watching some old Bette Davis movie to avoid watching Bush's acceptance speech. So, I really hate old movies. "Old" movies make prisoners of those unable to stay young and keep up with the changing times. I shudder every time I meet an intelligent person over fifty who still doesn't have a computer! (Shudder! Shudder!) I don't see why watching old movies make you unable to stay young. I'm 55 years old and love old movies, new movies, vlogs, classical music, rock music, computers and the internet. They are not mutually exclusive. Certain peoples brains may exclude any of these things, but that is their problem, not the media's problem.As a big fan of cinema I always am surprised at the lack of knowledge that young people have of old films. I've heard many comments like "I never watch anything made before 1970" or something similar. This is just as bad as not watching anything new. Watch it all! Soak it up! Learn from everyone!Jack SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Old movies on the Internet?
On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 18:46:55 +0100, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to remember the name of one or two films that were remade and the remade version was far inferior to the original. Rear Window and Planet of the Apes. - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Old movies on the Internet?
Gena says: "1. Many of the movies I had never seen before. I had a chance to catchup on classics and hidden gems. Some of the oldie films have lightingand editing skills it would take me a library of books to learn. B/WNoir movies straight up rock in terms of narrative style." This is probably one solid argument in favor of certain old movies. Time has a way or sorting out the outstanding from the mediocre. Therefore, the 'best' of the old are most likely to be broadcast. I'm trying to remember the name of one or two films that were "remade" and the remade version was far inferior to the original. I agree that there are great effects to be learned. I am always surprised at how black and white can create a certain mood in film. (Can you change video from color to black and white in the iMovie program?) I think I was just indulging a little personal animosity in this posting against old movies. "Old movies" became the whipping boy for my hostility to media offerings in general. I also remember how censored movies used to be. In the 1950s, cars lined up at the local drive-in to see a movie in which the word "virgin" was uttered for the first time. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Gena To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 12:55 AM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Old movies on the Internet? Vlogging has nothing to fear from Zazu Pitts. (No relation to BradPitt.) When I did watch TV I would view Turner Classic Movies and AMC. The reasons: 1. Many of the movies I had never seen before. I had a chance to catchup on classics and hidden gems. Some of the oldie films have lightingand editing skills it would take me a library of books to learn. B/WNoir movies straight up rock in terms of narrative style.2. They had a story, something to say that some contemporary moviesand television producers have lost the ability to create.Vlogging could be a step foward in that tradition while creating new ones.3. Let people be who they are. Yes, some folks will take comfort andrefuge in what they know. KUSC, the local classical music station,presents itself as a safe place: no news, no public affairs, oroutside concerns, just classical music. But there are many more who are starved for the new, the literate, thegoofy and others who are waiting for inspiration. Much room at thetable. Eyes on the prize.Gena http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com* --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I just read a news story that they are going to make all these oldmovies available on the Internet. This makes me suspect that wevloggers are going to get lost between Bette Davis and "Laurel Hardy". People, like water, seem to seek the lowest common level. I know that there are "great" old movies. However, I have a specialprejudice against them. I'm sixty-seven years old. When I go to somegathering of men, especially gay men my own age, they aren't talkingabout the new exciting "TransGeneration" documentary on Sundance orofferings on the new (unique) gay cable channels like Logo or "Here!On Demand". No, they are talk about watching some old Bette Davis movie to avoidwatching Bush's acceptance speech. So, I really hate old movies. "Old" movies make prisoners of thoseunable to stay young and keep up with the changing times. I shudderevery time I meet an intelligent person over fifty who still doesn'thave a computer! (Shudder! Shudder!) There is too much "new content" in vlogs and even on channels likeUncensored and Logo and Sundance that it is depressing to see so manypeople become a "prisoner of their times". May I die posting a new vlog for new generations entering a new age!! Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Old movies on the Internet?
You are right! Now, I actually can't think of a movie which was better when it was remade than it was in the original. Have there been any--or even one?? Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Old movies on the Internet? On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 18:46:55 +0100, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to remember the name of one or two films that were remade and the remade version was far inferior to the original. Rear Window and Planet of the Apes. - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
