Re: [videoblogging] Re: Putting your name on your work is legitimate!
true dat...now if that wiki could be easily printed...that would be coolOn 10/18/05, Dave Huth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Rather than hash out the details of this (what should be on the document, who should be credited, etc.) in the list, why not start a wiki? That way everyone can contribute and workit through, and those who aren't interested can just let others take the lead.Then anyone who wants a printed handout for presentations can decide to download Ryan's sheet, Taylor's edited version, or just draw from the wiki what we each think wouldbe best for our needs.Just a suggestion. I've noticed many people in vlogworld are wikilicious, and wikis haveworked well for us before. Dave--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my only beef with the document is the added community groups... the videoblogigng google group is just a copy of all the emails form the yahoo group, so not really anything that people use unless they want to search for something (the search works better) the video podcasting group has 2 members, and Taylor is one of them/the creator. It doesn't seem like a community site in the least... I would like to throw wearethemedia.com http://wearethemedia.com but i am having aprehensions about it because it is something i work on...I think the resources like the vlog-calendar on WATM is a great resource, but I am not one to force myself upon others... I just don't think that those 2 google groups in the handout are even useful...in place maybe it should be: http://www.mail-archive.com/videoblogging@yahoogroups.com/index.html On 10/18/05, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Markus Sandy wrote: maybe i'm behind the times are they putting coke ads in textbooks these days if they donate time or money to schools? if so, is that a good thing? Heh, I remember back when I worked at a design firm, and we did book covers for Coke/Pepsi that would be given out to school kids to put on their text books... Try as you might, you can't escape advertising... Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Links -- Josh Leo joshleo.com http://joshleo.com stonefarm.blogspot.com http://stonefarm.blogspot.com joshspicks.blogspot.com http://joshspicks.blogspot.com wearethemedia.com http://wearethemedia.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life.http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM~- Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- Josh Leojoshleo.comstonefarm.blogspot.com joshspicks.blogspot.comwearethemedia.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Putting your name on your work is legitimate!
Josh Leo wrote: On 10/18/05, Dave Huth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rather than hash out the details of this (what should be on the document, who should be credited, etc.) in the list, why not start a wiki? That way everyone can contribute and work it through, and those who aren't interested can just let others take the lead. true dat...now if that wiki could be easily printed...that would be cool Why not put one url on the printed handout that points people to a wiki page with the credits, links, etc? Including links to download the latest version of the paper document they are holding in their hand. Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Putting your name on your work is legitimate!
Tuesday, October 18, 2005, 4:20:20 PM, Josh Leo wrote: true dat...now if that wiki could be easily printed...that would be cool Out in the wild world of open source software development there are plenty of projects that edit their documentation on a wiki and use an automated process to scrape all/some pages of the wiki for changes and build one or more new, neat, printable, documentation sets. In short, it's a solved problem. If people think this is a good idea I'm sure we could do it too. -- Frank Carver http://www.makevideo.org.uk Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Putting your name on your work is legitimate!
On 10/18/05, johngaltsjournal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a question: how many on this huge list are teaching videoblogging in their community? I'm just curious... and tired of this thread as it is...not that it matters. Feel free to continue down this road. *Raises hand* In a sense. Can I also raise my hand in the tired of this thread vein? Erm, the list of resources I created is free to use, reuse, distribute, whatever-- I recommend verifying all links before using it, because I did NOT spend a lot of time on it, and I know the original had at least 1 mistake in it. --Stephanie -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vlog: http://mortaine.blogspot.com Audioblog: http://bookramble.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/cd_AJB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Putting your name on your work is legitimate!
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 20:58:58 +0200, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You better not try to remove my name, it'll violate my by-nc-sa license! Give me attribution or give me death! ;) You can only copyright a work, not an idea or concept. Ie. a quick rewrite later and the problem solved itself. As Schlomo says not two workshops have the same audience. I'd never print a stock handout. I'd always use one for inspiration and then create a new handout for each event. - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/cd_AJB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Putting your name on your work is legitimate!
johngaltsjournal wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In all seriousness, it *is* a good idea to apply a license to the things you create so that people know how they can use it. And don't forget, if you want to use it in some way that does not jive with the license, just contact the creator and see if they will license it to you in some other way. As the creator of a work, you maintain control over how you want to license it to who under what terms. Isn't it grand? Pete, please don't say that there should be cc licencing on a list of URLs sitting in the files section of a yahoo group for the (very few) people who actually go out and teach videoblogging? That would just makes me depressed for some reason..not sure why.. Well, no, if it's just a file with a list of urls, I wouldn't expect someone to apply a license to it (but they could!) I did indeed suggest that I think it's a good idea to apply a license to the things you create - so if someone here spent days compiling information into a well written tutorial, and wanted some control over how it was used, a CC license might help the matter. (I know, I'm a licensing freak!) Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/cd_AJB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Putting your name on your work is legitimate!
yeah let's kill this beast of a thread *STAB!*On 10/18/05, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 20:58:58 +0200, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You better not try to remove my name, it'll violate my by-nc-sa license! Give me attribution or give me death! ;) You can only copyright a work, not an idea or concept. Ie. a quick rewritelater and the problem solved itself.As Schlomo says not two workshops have the same audience. I'd never printa stock handout. I'd always use one for inspiration and then create a new handout for each event.- Andreas--URL:http://www.solitude.dk/Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today!http://us.click.yahoo.com/cd_AJB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM~- Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- Josh Leojoshleo.comstonefarm.blogspot.com joshspicks.blogspot.comwearethemedia.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Putting your name on your work is legitimate!
Andreas, that was exactly the point of putting files up in the Yahoo groups public filespace in the first place: for folks to use as starting rather than ending points. I always intend to use the links contained in the PDF handouts but never actually have done so. It's nice to have the option. Jan -- It isn't done alone. Pay more. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/roadnode101/ - education http://fauxpress.blogspot.com - motion http://blog.urbanartadventures.com - sound http://vlogpresskit.blogspot.com - media http://the-hold.blogspot.com - literature . On Oct 18, 2005, at 5:54 PM, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen wrote: On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 20:58:58 +0200, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You better not try to remove my name, it'll violate my by-nc-sa license! Give me attribution or give me death! ;) You can only copyright a work, not an idea or concept. Ie. a quick rewrite later and the problem solved itself. As Schlomo says not two workshops have the same audience. I'd never print a stock handout. I'd always use one for inspiration and then create a new handout for each event. - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Putting your name on your work is legitimate!
not so. in fact i considered not saying anything just because i did not want to hurt Taylor's feelings. but i thought it was worth mention. pardon me if i did not do it tactfully enough. as i mentioned before, i appreciate what Taylor has done. i just prefer the example Jan has set in her documents. i'm also concerned that this doc will turn into a long list of credits. markus Steve Watkins wrote: To be perfectly honest, I suspect it has something to do with it being Taylor. -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://www.corante.com/events/feedfest/ aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/cd_AJB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
