Re: [videoblogging] Veoh ** We are hearing you loud and clear
http://veoh.com/videoDetails.html?v=e55696wg9YwjDythis page actually shows my entire video in flash.THE ENTIRE VIDEO. not just a previewwith no link back to my vlog. please take me off veoh.thanks-ryanne-- me: http://ryanedit.blogspot.com educate in person: http://nyc.node101.org educate online: http://freevlog.orgvideos i want you to see: http://revlog.blogspot.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Veoh ** We are hearing you loud and clear
Thanks, dmitry for caring to communicate to those who are concerned here.I do feel that you failed to properly form relations with the sources of content inside of veoh.I also can understand the reasoning offered. that being a concern for bandwidth costs. But if that much thought was put into preventing potentially large costs for content creators, then I am sure that a proper communication channel could have been setup between veoh the the content creators good old crm. But that sentiment is quickly becoming yesterdays news. with your eager willingness to make all things right. So I want to personally say that I appreciate that and I hope to see/hear more of you and other Veoh reps moving forward. So, yes first things first and get those attribution links added to any/all listings in the veoh system without need to claim (claiming is lame!) ;-)Cheers,sull On 4/8/06, dmitry_veoh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you for approving me for this group.I wanted all of you to know that I am reading these messages and hearyou loud and clear.It is not our intention to steal anyone's content.We are simplytrying to create a compelling service for video producers of all kinds, with a big focus on enabling video bloggers to be free ofrestrictions to broadcast.In fact, we did consider simply creating asite where we would link to videoblogs, but felt that this may causeyou to experiencesignificant costs.The reason we transcode the content is to offload those costs from you to us.Maybe this is notthe right thing to do.We are open to your comments, and will obeyyour wishes.Please forgive us if you are one of the people that feel that we have gone about this the wrong way, we will make changes to accommodateyour preferences.We did not mean to infringe on anyone's rights, wesimply tried to make it simple for people to find your videos in asingle place.This is an evolutionary process, and we are working on refining it.We would greatly appreciate your help in making Veoh agreat citizen of the video blogging world.For those of you that will be attending VloggerCon 2006, you will havea chance to meet a few of us there, as we are going to be sponsoring the event, and will throw a party afterwards.I encourage you to give us the benefit of the doubt that we are thegood guys.We will do ANYTHING to prove that to you, really.I will personally make sure that anyone that wants their feed off of our system gets a quick response to their wishes.Dmitry ShapiroCEOVeoh Networks, Inc.619-602-3305 cell[EMAIL PROTECTED]Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- Sullhttp://vlogdir.com http://SpreadTheMedia.org SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Veoh ** We are hearing you loud and clear
Hi Dmitry,Thankyou for responding to the group.I have a few questions and comments about this whole situation.I simply cannot see how taking video without the maker's knowledge or consent, creating a series with it, linking back to your own site, using no attribution whatsoever and implicating them as members of your community is a compelling service for video producers. I think it is, however, a compelling service to Veoh as it gives an artificial inflation of your numbers which, I'm sure, is quite helpful when looking for VC funding for your company.In your terms of service, you spell out your own copyright for the site. How would you feel about a company that decided it wanted to help you avoid the costs of running your site by sucking the content out of it and hosting it on their own site without your knowledge or consent. They could then drive your traffic to them, thereby saving you the costs associated with bandwidth. I'm sure that you wouldn't perceive it as helpful though, would you? If you truly thought that what you were doing was helpful, you might have come in here before now and told us what a marvelous job you were doing helping us all and encouraging us to come claim our feeds. Instead, we find out accidentally and now you are here to tell us that it's for our own good and that you are helping us. Not cool. Not legal. Not helpful. Sorry if this sounds harsh but this is serious business.On 4/7/06, dmitry_veoh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Thank you for approving me for this group.I wanted all of you to know that I am reading these messages and hear you loud and clear.It is not our intention to steal anyone's content.We are simplytrying to create a compelling service for video producers of allkinds, with a big focus on enabling video bloggers to be free of restrictions to broadcast.In fact, we did consider simply creating asite where we would link to videoblogs, but felt that this may causeyou to experiencesignificant costs.The reason we transcode thecontent is to offload those costs from you to us.Maybe this is not the right thing to do.We are open to your comments, and will obeyyour wishes.Please forgive us if you are one of the people that feel that we havegone about this the wrong way, we will make changes to accommodate your preferences.We did not mean to infringe on anyone's rights, wesimply tried to make it simple for people to find your videos in asingle place.This is an evolutionary process, and we are working onrefining it.We would greatly appreciate your help in making Veoh a great citizen of the video blogging world.For those of you that will be attending VloggerCon 2006, you will havea chance to meet a few of us there, as we are going to be sponsoringthe event, and will throw a party afterwards. I encourage you to give us the benefit of the doubt that we are thegood guys.We will do ANYTHING to prove that to you, really.I will personally make sure that anyone that wants their feed off ofour system gets a quick response to their wishes. Dmitry ShapiroCEOVeoh Networks, Inc.619-602-3305 cell[EMAIL PROTECTED]Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Anne Walkhttp://loadedpun.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Veoh ** We are hearing you loud and clear
On 4/7/06, dmitry_veoh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you for approving me for this group. Welcome, Dmitry. I wanted all of you to know that I am reading these messages and hear you loud and clear. I'm REALLY glad you're willing to come here and talk *with* us. In fact, we did consider simply creating a site where we would link to videoblogs, but felt that this may cause you to experience significant costs. I can only speak for myself, but this is absolutely not a problem fro me yet, and if it were to become one, Veoh has a service available that I could use if I wanted to host my videos. My videos are hosted on a porn server-- we have plenty of bandwidth. I prefer all my videos to be downloaded directly from my site-- my own awstats program puts it all in one place for me. For those of you that will be attending VloggerCon 2006, you will have a chance to meet a few of us there, as we are going to be sponsoring the event, and will throw a party afterwards. Excellent! I greatly look forward to meeting you! I encourage you to give us the benefit of the doubt that we are the good guys. We will do ANYTHING to prove that to you, really. I believe that you are responsive and want to do the right thing. That's important. I doubt there are many of us who can honestly say we've absolutely never done an infringing videoblog, though most of us have learned better and have developed a better sense of these nuances. I will personally make sure that anyone that wants their feed off of our system gets a quick response to their wishes. I *do* need to ask you to remove http://johnnyb.blip.tv from Veoh, if you haven't already. It's copyrighted, not even CC license, and the host of the show isn't here for me to discuss with him if it's okay (and besides, I know the answer already). --Stephanie [Feeling a bit better about having suggested Veoh as a hosting solution now.] -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blogs, vlogs, and audioblogs at: http://www.mortaine.com/blogs Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
