Re: [videoblogging] audience and RSS
Very good point re RSS.One of the beauties of hosting yourself is that you can get all your own stats and analyze them however you want (I have bled for both analog and awstats now...) . I know how many people are viewing each of the versions of each video I post: flv - they have to be looking at the page on the site; m4v is most likely iTunes, but could be some other aggregator; SWF is some other aggregator or feedreader, but definitely not iTunes. Now I need to take it to the next level and figure out, on average, how many people are actually watching my videos all the way through.The numbers do matter if you hope (as I do) to eventually attract enough traffic to make the damn thing pay. That's not why I do it, but... we're all looking for validation and, in our capitalist world, the ultimate validation is money in the bank. Artistic freedom is all very well, but it won't put my kid through college. On 2/23/06, Josh Leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have been thinking a little bit about subscription numbers, feedburner stats and all that crap that we use to uselessly evaluate our "place in the vlogosphere" My findings seem to point towards specific audience/topic as being the key motivator for subscribers. Let's take GETV for example.They started in November of 2005. Their vlog consists of interviews with the "big name" people of the blogosphere that they meet at conferences or in San Francisco. Somehow their subscription numbers have shot up very quick. This is most likely because the people who are most interested in that information are also the people who are using RSS aggregators the most. It is somewhat simple reflexive system, if you talk about bloggers, then bloggers will talk about you and subscribe to your blog. Rocketboom seems to dwell in this realm, but at times drifts out into the greater world of the internet, I am sure that their forays into the quirky snags them a different audience that views content differently (not using RSS) I believe that if someone made a videoblog about hiking, their content would most likely not be viewed via RSS but my singular page viewsRSS is still unknown to the rest of the world, most people I know don't even know what an aggreagator is. Many of my friends who have blogs on Xanga or Blogger don't even know what a feed is or that they even have one... I guess this just goes to show that subscribers is not popularity of content, but popularity of content within a select group of people who use RSS, therefore the topics that get the most subscribers are the ones that are geared more towards the blog/tech/gadget side of the spectrum... Screw subscription numbers, just make content!!!thank you...-- best regards,Deirdré Straughanwww.beginningwithi.com (personal)www.tvblob.com (work) SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] audience and RSS
On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 01:57:21PM -0500, Josh Leo wrote: > Let's take GETV for example. > They started in November of 2005. Their vlog consists of interviews with the > "big name" people of the blogosphere that they meet at conferences or in San > Francisco. Somehow their subscription numbers have shot up very quick. This > is most likely because the people who are most interested in that > information are also the people who are using RSS aggregators the most. It > is somewhat simple reflexive system, if you talk about bloggers, then > bloggers will talk about you and subscribe to your blog. Most are not big name, but yes, we do have easy access to some well known geeks in SF. You have discovered our little secret, cover people with blogs and they cover you. I'm sure that most of our viewers are geeks or geekily inclined and that probably does translate to RSS subscriptions. We do get another 1000 or so views directly from the website within a few days of a new vid posting, though our blip stats are totally skewed because of the MSBITS problem. > Rocketboom seems to dwell in this realm, but at times drifts out into the > greater world of the internet, I am sure that their forays into the quirky > snags them a different audience that views content differently (not using > RSS) Agreed, but Rocketboom also has a clean inviting interface to view episodes in a browser. Even though I consume most vlogs via RSS, I always go to Rocketboom's site to see them. Maybe it's the easy access to comments which for me is a big part of the experience. > I believe that if someone made a videoblog about hiking, their content would > most likely not be viewed via RSS but my singular page views > > RSS is still unknown to the rest of the world, most people I know don't even > know what an aggreagator is. Many of my friends who have blogs on Xanga or > Blogger don't even know what a feed is or that they even have one... I think this fast changing. People don't have to know the terms 'aggregator' or 'RSS feed' to know that itunes is a way to listen and watch audio and video content. > I guess this just goes to show that subscribers is not popularity of > content, but popularity of content within a select group of people who use > RSS, therefore the topics that get the most subscribers are the ones that > are geared more towards the blog/tech/gadget side of the spectrum... Possibly, but look at the top itunes podcasts. Some of the "video podcasts" that bubble up to the top are: Strong Bad Email, Tiki Bar TV, Happy Tree Friends, Vintage ToonCast. > Screw subscription numbers, just make content!!! Totally! -eddie Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] audience and RSS
On 2/23/06, Josh Leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I believe that if someone made a videoblog about hiking, their content would most likely not be viewed via RSS but my singular page views Well, blip.tv doesn't have very sophisticated stats yet (it'd be cool to have syndication subscriptions as well as views), and the vlog is still very new and not really fully formed and not at all promoted anywhere, but here are the stats for Hiking & Camping with Johnnyb (http://johnnyb.blip.tv/): Browser Views Sites Users Referers Firefox 15 11 4 2 Internet Explorer 7 6 2 1 Jakarta 5 2 1 1 Mozilla 4 2 2 1 aRts 3 2 1 1 QuickTime 3 3 1 1 Democracy 2 1 1 1 Doppler 2 1 1 1 iTunes 1 1 1 1 curl 1 1 1 1 iTunes is probably my own subscription, as are some of those Firefox and Mozilla views. I note FireAnt isn't on the list-- not sure what that means; perhaps "QuickTime" is the FireAnt pull? So most people viewing the vlog have checked it out on the web. If you want, I can keep you updated when the vlog turns into more than just a crappy mish-mash of badly-edited clips and images. --Stephanie RSS is still unknown to the rest of the world, most people I know don't even know what an aggreagator is. Many of my friends who have blogs on Xanga or Blogger don't even know what a feed is or that they even have one... I guess this just goes to show that subscribers is not popularity of content, but popularity of content within a select group of people who use RSS, therefore the topics that get the most subscribers are the ones that are geared more towards the blog/tech/gadget side of the spectrum... Screw subscription numbers, just make content!!!thank you...-- Josh Leojoshleo.com stonefarm.blogspot.com joshspicks.blogspot.com vlogcats.blogspot.comwearethemedia.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Stephanie Bryant[EMAIL PROTECTED]Blogs, vlogs, and audioblogs at:http://www.mortaine.com/blogs SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.