Re: [videoblogging] how do you feel about video popping up in a new window?

2005-10-11 Thread Joshua Kinberg
> Awesome! One suggestion: change 'onClick' to 'onclick' so it will be
> valid as HTML or XHTML...

done.

-josh


 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> 
Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life.
http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM
~-> 

 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
 





Re: [videoblogging] how do you feel about video popping up in a new window?

2005-10-11 Thread Pete Prodoehl
Joshua Kinberg wrote:
> I built a popup link generator:
> < http://joshkinberg.com/popupmaker/ >

Awesome! One suggestion: change 'onClick' to 'onclick' so it will be 
valid as HTML or XHTML...

Pete

-- 
http://tinkernet.org/
videoblog for the future...




 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> 
Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back!
http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM
~-> 

 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
 






Re: [videoblogging] how do you feel about video popping up in a new window?

2005-10-11 Thread Joshua Kinberg
>  yeah, i was totally doing this too.  actually, this is how popups are
> handled on vlogdir.com.
>  it takes the url of the media, figures out the media type, loads a preload
> page based on that media type and clicking it will load the media using
> correct embedded media player.  The preload page is not necessary but I
> chose to use it so users see the media type and can decide to play it and
> maybe avoid some browser problems that can occur if media loads immediately
> in popups.

Yep, same concept. Don't know if the preloader page is necessary... i
just want to watch videos. Clicking bothers me. If the page embeds
media types properly then I have nothing to worry about. You could
also do plugin detection if you want. That would be better than the
preloader page IMHO.


>  i had tossed around the idea of making this a service for bloggers but
> there eas some resitance to the fact that it  relies on my server to
> work and if my server is down or lagging, then it will effect everyones
> blogs.

Well, that could be in the terms of service. Nobody is perfect... and
if its free people seem to be willing to put up with things like
that... look at OurMedia. Of course, that wouldn't be useful for a
professional level of service.

>  but it was definately one of the models i was thinking about and of
> course if you wanted to add revenue, you stick text ads and video ads in
> there etc...

I don't know about that. If I were to offer this as a real service,
I'd just let it be free without the ads and such. I was going to offer
this code to OurMedia just so they could possibly put some of their
branding on that popup window. I think it would be useful for blogger
users... maybe for MySpace kiddies... dunno. People like to cut-paste
code on those kinds of sites.

>  I might still do this one day but would need to have a very dependable
> server it can be a lot of responsiblility :-/

Not that much responsibility since you aren't hosting the media files.
How much of a bandwidth drain could it be?

>  i also suggested this approach to ourmedia initially because i think
> they can save bandwidth by not making the media download upon accessing a
> media permalink page.  better to let the user decide after that page
> loads... whether embedded or popup.

Yes, this would be good for OurMedia to consider.

>  I dig the player resizer script mind if I steal that?

g'head and take it. Make it better. Its pretty simplistic.

-josh

>
>  cheers-
>
>  sull
>
>
>
> On 10/11/05, Joshua Kinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Actually, a pop-up window with an embedded player is quite useful.
> > Most people on the web are using MIcrosoft Internet Explorer
> > (unfortunately), and IE disables Quicktime Fast-Start playback unless
> > the video is properly embedded using both the HTML Object and Embed
> > tags. Simply linking to your videos, as many of us do, leaves IE users
> > waiting for whole video to download before it will begin to play.
> >
> > Here's one solution... I was playing around with this a while back:
> > <
> http://www.joshkinberg.com/blog/popup.php?url=http://joshkinberg.com/blog/files/tornado.mov
> > >
> >
> > Its a simple PHP page that you can pass in the URL of a video file and
> > it will properly embed that video. This way, you don't have to make a
> > new HTML page for every video pop-up window. You use the same page and
> > simply pass in the URL to the video you wish to display.
> >
> > This could also be modified to handle various video types (like WMV).
> >
> > Lastly, I also added controls to resize the video and window (which
> > might seem annoying to some of you, but hey just playing around here).
> >
> > My idea was to finish this off and pass it to OurMedia so that people
> > could have a place to load up their video in a pop-up if they
> > wished this is not easy to do if you're on Blogger and have no
> > where to upload HTML or PHP files. But... I got sidetracked with other
> > things and never finished this off. Not even sure if other people
> > would find it useful. What do you think?
> >
> > -josh
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/11/05, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >of course it is best to provide all options to audience, since
> opinions differ, as we see here.
> > >  whenever possible, we should try to cater to all preferences.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 10/11/05, Josh Leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >i like it when the video stays in the browser window.I don't like
> the way Taylor does his popups (the actual quicktime app) and unless there
> is a good reason for having a popup (like freevlog) then i say don't do it.
> Ideally, all videos would be transcoded and embedded right in the page like
> steve garfields...but not all of us are vblog central members, and not all
> of us can do that...so i say let it play int he browser window that is
> already open
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 10/11/05, Markus San

Re: [videoblogging] how do you feel about video popping up in a new window?

2005-10-11 Thread Joshua Kinberg
I built a popup link generator:
< http://joshkinberg.com/popupmaker/ >

I also amended my popup code so the window itself doesn't resize --
instead the launching link handles the size of the window.

This isn't perfect obviously... it would be nice to have more sizing
controls. Right now the video size is just hard coded at 320x240. The
code also generates a fixed size window, but you could always edit the
code.

Anyhow, take it for a spin and let me know what you think this
should also handle WMV, but I haven't tested.. if anything the sizing
with WMV could be a little weird.

Anyone who want's may feel free to steal this code, or write me off
list and I'll send the code to you.

-josh


On 10/11/05, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  Josh,
>  yeah, i was totally doing this too.  actually, this is how popups are
> handled on vlogdir.com.
>  it takes the url of the media, figures out the media type, loads a preload
> page based on that media type and clicking it will load the media using
> correct embedded media player.  The preload page is not necessary but I
> chose to use it so users see the media type and can decide to play it and
> maybe avoid some browser problems that can occur if media loads immediately
> in popups.
>
>  i had tossed around the idea of making this a service for bloggers but
> there eas some resitance to the fact that it  relies on my server to
> work and if my server is down or lagging, then it will effect everyones
> blogs.
>  but it was definately one of the models i was thinking about and of
> course if you wanted to add revenue, you stick text ads and video ads in
> there etc...
>  I might still do this one day but would need to have a very dependable
> server it can be a lot of responsiblility :-/
>
>  i also suggested this approach to ourmedia initially because i think
> they can save bandwidth by not making the media download upon accessing a
> media permalink page.  better to let the user decide after that page
> loads... whether embedded or popup.
>  what is on ourmedia now i did and enhancements were to come later...
> then i got sidetracked on my own projects, like you ;-) i should get back in
> the ourmedia loop.  they could use some help.
>
>  I dig the player resizer script mind if I steal that?
>
>  cheers-
>
>  sull
>
>
>
> On 10/11/05, Joshua Kinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Actually, a pop-up window with an embedded player is quite useful.
> > Most people on the web are using MIcrosoft Internet Explorer
> > (unfortunately), and IE disables Quicktime Fast-Start playback unless
> > the video is properly embedded using both the HTML Object and Embed
> > tags. Simply linking to your videos, as many of us do, leaves IE users
> > waiting for whole video to download before it will begin to play.
> >
> > Here's one solution... I was playing around with this a while back:
> > <
> http://www.joshkinberg.com/blog/popup.php?url=http://joshkinberg.com/blog/files/tornado.mov
> > >
> >
> > Its a simple PHP page that you can pass in the URL of a video file and
> > it will properly embed that video. This way, you don't have to make a
> > new HTML page for every video pop-up window. You use the same page and
> > simply pass in the URL to the video you wish to display.
> >
> > This could also be modified to handle various video types (like WMV).
> >
> > Lastly, I also added controls to resize the video and window (which
> > might seem annoying to some of you, but hey just playing around here).
> >
> > My idea was to finish this off and pass it to OurMedia so that people
> > could have a place to load up their video in a pop-up if they
> > wished this is not easy to do if you're on Blogger and have no
> > where to upload HTML or PHP files. But... I got sidetracked with other
> > things and never finished this off. Not even sure if other people
> > would find it useful. What do you think?
> >
> > -josh
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/11/05, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >of course it is best to provide all options to audience, since
> opinions differ, as we see here.
> > >  whenever possible, we should try to cater to all preferences.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 10/11/05, Josh Leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >i like it when the video stays in the browser window.I don't like
> the way Taylor does his popups (the actual quicktime app) and unless there
> is a good reason for having a popup (like freevlog) then i say don't do it.
> Ideally, all videos would be transcoded and embedded right in the page like
> steve garfields...but not all of us are vblog central members, and not all
> of us can do that...so i say let it play int he browser window that is
> already open
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 10/11/05, Markus Sandy < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >   Man!  Don't you just hate it when people center things,
> like pop-ups, and don't take into account people w

Re: [videoblogging] how do you feel about video popping up in a new window?

2005-10-11 Thread Pete Prodoehl
Michael Sullivan wrote:
> i had tossed around the idea of making this a service for bloggers but
> there was some resitance to the fact that it relies on my server to work
> and if my server is down or lagging, then it will effect everyones blogs.

So if not a service, what about releasing the code, or writing up some 
docs on exactly how to do it?


> I dig the player resizer script mind if I steal that?

Steal it? You mean a license wasn't properly applied to it telling you 
exactly what you can do with it? ;)

Pete

-- 
http://tinkernet.org/
videoblog for the future...




 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> 
Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back!
http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM
~-> 

 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
 






Re: [videoblogging] how do you feel about video popping up in a new window?

2005-10-11 Thread Pete Prodoehl
David Meade wrote:
> On 10/11/05, Pete Prodoehl wrote:
> 
>>Some of us believe in user-centered design.
> 
> 
>  As do I. My point was that we dont get to say "users perfer this because I
> do". I'm using a new window for my videos because my experience with USERS
> is that that is what they prefer. I have a small audience - maybe its just
> them, but my only point was that you may hate pop-ups you may love them but
> the all the other users out there are a different thing.

Ok, I do see your point. I suppose I tend to assume that users less 
knowledgeable than myself would prefer choice. I should remember that 
this is not always the case. I too am a user of course, so when I say 
"what a user prefers" I am also speaking about myself as a user.


>>And let the user decide how to view it, and use it...
> 
>  Use it yes. View it ... I still disagree. XML/RSS do that - thats raw data.
> HTML etc is MARK UP language ... its very use MARKS UP data to be displayed
> in a certain way (bullet lists, bolds, etc).
>  There are certainly tools and user options and programs which can override
> that, but web site designers dont provide pure data ... they MARK IT UP.

On my Palm device there are no fonts that would be described as *bold* 
so anything html marked with  or  is italicized. Likewise 
when I view web site with Lynx there are specific limitations as to how 
things can be displayed. Same with my phone. So while people might think 
that  means the font is displayed using a bold face, what it 
*semantically* means is different. The fact that most browsers display 
 as bold text by default means nothing really, hence CSS...


>>Go ahead. Just know that you have no control over how it can be
>>transformed or displayed. I've been telling print designers this for
>>almost 10 years now.
> 
> 
>  I wouldnt dream of trying to prevent it from being TRANSFORMED. But I CAN
> mark it up as I the publisher chose...I'm the one writing the marked up
> page.
>  I actually dont care how they display it, thats why I allow my content to
> be retrieved as pure data in xml.

Yay! ;)

Pete

-- 
http://tinkernet.org/
videoblog for the future...




 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> 
Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today!
http://us.click.yahoo.com/cd_AJB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM
~-> 

 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
 





Re: [videoblogging] how do you feel about video popping up in a new window?

2005-10-11 Thread Pete Prodoehl
Joshua Kinberg wrote:
>>This is the part where I am thankful that I can choose not to implement
>>a bunch of silly workaround to make IE behave. I'll choose to just
>>ignore IE bugs/features with my videoblog.
> 
> I agree with you, and I wish IE didn't have retarded problems like this.
> But it does and about 80% of people on the web are using IE -- so
> unfortunately, it matters.

What I was suggesting was, it does not matter to me enough to do 
something about it. My videoblog is not a revenue generating site, and 
if the users of my videblogging site suffer when using IE, I hope they 
will get a better browser.

Obviously this opinion cannot easily be applied to every site, but for 
this one, it is.

Pete

-- 
http://tinkernet.org/
videoblog for the future...




 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> 
Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life.
http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM
~-> 

 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
 





Re: [videoblogging] how do you feel about video popping up in a new window?

2005-10-11 Thread Michael Sullivan



Josh,
yeah, i was totally doing this too.  actually, this is how popups are handled on vlogdir.com.
it takes the url of the media, figures out the media type, loads a
preload page based on that media type and clicking it will load the
media using correct embedded media player.  The preload page is
not necessary but I chose to use it so users see the media type and can
decide to play it and maybe avoid some browser problems that can occur
if media loads immediately in popups. 

i had tossed around the idea of making this a service for bloggers
but there eas some resitance to the fact that it  relies on my
server to work and if my server is down or lagging, then it will
effect everyones blogs.  
but it was definately one of the models i was thinking about and of
course if you wanted to add revenue, you stick text ads and video ads
in there etc...
I might still do this one day but would need to have a very dependable server it can be a lot of responsiblility :-/ 

i also suggested this approach to ourmedia initially because i
think they can save bandwidth by not making the media download upon
accessing a media permalink page.  better to let the user decide
after that page loads... whether embedded or popup.  
what is on ourmedia now i did and enhancements were to come
later... then i got sidetracked on my own projects, like you ;-) i
should get back in the ourmedia loop.  they could use some help.

I dig the player resizer script mind if I steal that?

cheers-

sull
On 10/11/05, Joshua Kinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Actually, a pop-up window with an embedded player is quite useful.Most people on the web are using MIcrosoft Internet Explorer(unfortunately), and IE disables Quicktime Fast-Start playback unlessthe video is properly embedded using both the HTML Object and Embed
tags. Simply linking to your videos, as many of us do, leaves IE userswaiting for whole video to download before it will begin to play.Here's one solution... I was playing around with this a while back:
< http://www.joshkinberg.com/blog/popup.php?url="">>Its a simple PHP page that you can pass in the URL of a video file and
it will properly embed that video. This way, you don't have to make anew HTML page for every video pop-up window. You use the same page andsimply pass in the URL to the video you wish to display.This could also be modified to handle various video types (like WMV).
Lastly, I also added controls to resize the video and window (whichmight seem annoying to some of you, but hey just playing around here).My idea was to finish this off and pass it to OurMedia so that people
could have a place to load up their video in a pop-up if theywished this is not easy to do if you're on Blogger and have nowhere to upload HTML or PHP files. But... I got sidetracked with otherthings and never finished this off. Not even sure if other people
would find it useful. What do you think?-joshOn 10/11/05, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>of course it is best to provide all options to audience, since opinions differ, as we see here.
>  whenever possible, we should try to cater to all preferences. On 10/11/05, Josh Leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> >>
>i like it when the video stays in the
browser window.I don't like the way Taylor does his popups (the actual
quicktime app) and unless there is a good reason for having a popup
(like freevlog) then i say don't do it. Ideally, all videos would be
transcoded and embedded right in the page like steve garfields...but
not all of us are vblog central members, and not all of us can do
that...so i say let it play int he browser window that is already
open> >> >> >> >> > On 10/11/05, Markus Sandy < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > >>
> >  
Man!  Don't you just hate it when people center things, like
pop-ups, and don't take into account people with dual screens?> > >> > >> > >  Devlon wrote:> > >> > >I should clarify that I have two monitors so that makes a difference.
> > >> > > On 10/10/05, Devlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > >> > >  wrote:> > >> > >>
> >  That is probably the only
type of pop-up I don't mind.  It allows me to do> > > other stuff while the clip is playing.  Saves me from opening in a new tab> > > or window.> > >> > >> > >
> > >> > >>
> >On 10/11/05,
aroundtheperimeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>
> >  If
you vlog has its video pop up in a new window, is it annoying?> > >> > >> > >> > >  --> > > ~Devlon> > > 
http://8bitme.blogspot.com> > >> > >> > > http://whiteguyforeignfoods.blogspot.com> > > 
http://devlon.blogspot.com> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > --> > > ~Devlon> > > http://8bitme.blogspot.com
> > >> > >> > > http://whiteguyforeignfoods.blogspot.com> > >> > > 
http://devlon.blogspot.com> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Yahoo! Groups Links> > >> > >> > > 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/> > >> > >> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >
> > >> > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info

Re: [videoblogging] how do you feel about video popping up in a new window?

2005-10-11 Thread David Meade




On 10/11/05, Pete Prodoehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Some of us believe in user-centered design.
 
As do I.  My point was that we dont get to say "users perfer this because I do".  I'm using a new window for my videos because my experience with USERS is that that is what they prefer.  I have a small audience - maybe its just them, but my only point was that you may hate pop-ups you may love them but the all the other users out there are a different thing.

If you think you have any control over what the user cando to transform the HTML you create before they see it, you are
completely wrong.
 
I dont recall saying I could. But I can define the default experience that is DavidMeade.com.  Using the mark up languages DEFINED to do just that.
 

All we as publishers can do is provide what our feedback is telling us is the most intuitive design for a feature.  On my site, thats using a pop-up for the media player.  HTML/CSS/JS/DHTML are designed to give publishers the mark up tools to do that.  They exist to let publishers do that.

 
If users want to override that ... fine what do I care?
> The web is meant to easily interconnect sets of> data and let the user decide how to travese it ...
And let the user decide how to view it, and use it...
 
Use it yes. View it ... I still disagree.  XML/RSS do that - thats raw data.  HTML etc is MARK UP language ... its very use MARKS UP data to be displayed in a certain way (bullet lists, bolds, etc).
 
There are certainly tools and user options and programs which can override that, but web site designers dont provide pure data ... they MARK IT UP.
 
> but it's also meant to> allow content publishers to easily make that data available in a manner *they
> the publisher* choose.Go ahead. Just know that you have no control over how it can betransformed or displayed. I've been telling print designers this foralmost 10 years now.
 
I wouldnt dream of trying to prevent it from being TRANSFORMED.  But I CAN mark it up as I the publisher chose...I'm the one writing the marked up page.
 
I actually dont care how they display it, thats why I allow my content to be retrieved as pure data in xml.
 
- Dave
http://www.davidmeade.com 





  
  
SPONSORED LINKS
  
  
  

Individual
  
  
Fireant
  
  
Typepad
  
  


Use
  

   
  







  
  
  YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS



   Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. 
   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.



  









Re: [videoblogging] how do you feel about video popping up in a new window?

2005-10-11 Thread Joshua Kinberg
> This is the part where I am thankful that I can choose not to implement
> a bunch of silly workaround to make IE behave. I'll choose to just
> ignore IE bugs/features with my videoblog.

I agree with you, and I wish IE didn't have retarded problems like this.
But it does and about 80% of people on the web are using IE -- so
unfortunately, it matters.

-josh


On 10/11/05, Pete Prodoehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Oct 11, 2005, at 12:53 PM, Joshua Kinberg wrote:
> >
> >>Actually, a pop-up window with an embedded player is quite useful.
> >>Most people on the web are using MIcrosoft Internet Explorer
> >>(unfortunately), and IE disables Quicktime Fast-Start playback unless
> >>the video is properly embedded using both the HTML Object and Embed
> >>tags. Simply linking to your videos, as many of us do, leaves IE users
> >>waiting for whole video to download before it will begin to play.
>
> This is the part where I am thankful that I can choose not to implement
> a bunch of silly workaround to make IE behave. I'll choose to just
> ignore IE bugs/features with my videoblog.
>
> Pete
>
> --
> http://tinkernet.org/
> videoblog for the future...
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> 
Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life.
http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM
~-> 

 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
 





Re: [videoblogging] how do you feel about video popping up in a new window?

2005-10-11 Thread Pete Prodoehl
David Meade wrote:
>  (And to whoever said the webs whole point was to let the user decide how to
> see information ... thats not really true. 

Some of us believe in user-centered design.


> HTML has never let the user
> dictate how it's parsed. 

Note that HTML is a markup language. It is up to the client to determine 
what to do with it, how to display it, etc. I can tell my browser to 
ignore CSS, or use the colors or fonts I prefer. Ever hear of 
Greasemonkey? If you think you have any control over what the user can 
do to transform the HTML you create before they see it, you are 
completely wrong.


 > The web is meant to easily interconnect sets of
> data and let the user decide how to travese it ... 

And let the user decide how to view it, and use it...


> but it's also meant to
> allow content publishers to easily make that data available in a manner *they
> the publisher* choose.

Go ahead. Just know that you have no control over how it can be 
transformed or displayed. I've been telling print designers this for 
almost 10 years now.


Pete

-- 
http://tinkernet.org/
videoblog for the future...




 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> 
Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back!
http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM
~-> 

 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
 





Re: [videoblogging] how do you feel about video popping up in a new window?

2005-10-11 Thread Pete Prodoehl
> On Oct 11, 2005, at 12:53 PM, Joshua Kinberg wrote:
> 
>>Actually, a pop-up window with an embedded player is quite useful.
>>Most people on the web are using MIcrosoft Internet Explorer
>>(unfortunately), and IE disables Quicktime Fast-Start playback unless
>>the video is properly embedded using both the HTML Object and Embed
>>tags. Simply linking to your videos, as many of us do, leaves IE users
>>waiting for whole video to download before it will begin to play.

This is the part where I am thankful that I can choose not to implement 
a bunch of silly workaround to make IE behave. I'll choose to just 
ignore IE bugs/features with my videoblog.

Pete

-- 
http://tinkernet.org/
videoblog for the future...




 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> 
Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today!
http://us.click.yahoo.com/cd_AJB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM
~-> 

 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
 






Re: [videoblogging] how do you feel about video popping up in a new window?

2005-10-11 Thread Devlon
On 10/11/05, Markus Sandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  Man!  Don't you just hate it when people center things, like pop-ups, and
> don't take into account people with dual screens?

Don't get me started on that one :)

>
>
>  Devlon wrote:
>  I should clarify that I have two monitors so that makes a difference.
>

--
~Devlon
http://8bitme.blogspot.com
http://whiteguyforeignfoods.blogspot.com
http://devlon.blogspot.com


 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> 
Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back!
http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM
~-> 

 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
 





Re: [videoblogging] how do you feel about video popping up in a new window?

2005-10-11 Thread David Meade



I use a pop-up for my embeded player.  I do it for the following reasons:
 
* I (and I've found most of my viewers) find it really annoying when they click "play" (or whatever) and some media player takes the webpage away and brings up a player I have to sit with while things stream/download and play ... if I wanted to browse comments at the same time or something I have to open up a whole new window now ... so letting a player take away the website was out for me - needed to be a new window.

 
* I wanted the ability to include many videos on a page (or even a post if I choose) wihtout worrying about the client trying to buffer/download more than one at a time. My solution was 'dont embed a player until the user selects which movie they want to see'.  (I could have chosen to not embed a player at all ... but with quicktime that usually means my webpage goes away ... and I dont want that (and opening a new window for the movie file is basically the same thing as a pop up).)

 
* Most users (who arent web designers) dont want to have a 'right-click/select an option' or even a "shift-click" experience ... they want a "I click it and it worked" experience.  (and "Bah! I clicked it and it played but web site closed!" is not the experience I'm hoping to provide.)

 
* I use a system similar to the one Josh Kinberg describes.  I have one and only one "plays a video" page.  It's passed a video ID and then the approrpriate embed code and src url is loaded.
All that being said, there is some serious room for improvement in my system I know that ... having a "view in pop-up" link as an alternative is an ok option ... but I've found the general rule on pop-ups is thaty they are typically ok as long as they contain expected and requested content
.
 
(And to whoever said the webs whole point was to let the user decide how to see information ... thats not really true.  HTML has never let the user dictate how it's parsed.  The web is meant to easily interconnect sets of data and let the user decide how to travese it ... but it's also meant to allow content publishers to easily make that data available in a manner 
they the publisher choose.)
 
- Dave
http://www.davidmeade.com





  
  
SPONSORED LINKS
  
  
  

Individual
  
  
Fireant
  
  
Typepad
  
  


Use
  

   
  







  
  
  YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS



   Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. 
   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.



  









Re: [videoblogging] how do you feel about video popping up in a new window?

2005-10-11 Thread robert a/k/a r
thanks, josh. it closed the Safari browser i was working in containing  
other tabs i was using. nice one.


cheers
r

--
http://r.24x7.com >
Deconstructing the status quo, collaboratively




On Oct 11, 2005, at 12:53 PM, Joshua Kinberg wrote:

> Actually, a pop-up window with an embedded player is quite useful.
> Most people on the web are using MIcrosoft Internet Explorer
> (unfortunately), and IE disables Quicktime Fast-Start playback unless
> the video is properly embedded using both the HTML Object and Embed
> tags. Simply linking to your videos, as many of us do, leaves IE users
> waiting for whole video to download before it will begin to play.
>
> Here's one solution... I was playing around with this a while back:
> <  
> http://www.joshkinberg.com/blog/popup.php?url=http://joshkinberg.com/ 
> blog/files/tornado.mov
>>
>
> Its a simple PHP page that you can pass in the URL of a video file and
> it will properly embed that video. This way, you don't have to make a
> new HTML page for every video pop-up window. You use the same page and
> simply pass in the URL to the video you wish to display.
>
> This could also be modified to handle various video types (like WMV).
>
> Lastly, I also added controls to resize the video and window (which
> might seem annoying to some of you, but hey just playing around here).
>
> My idea was to finish this off and pass it to OurMedia so that people
> could have a place to load up their video in a pop-up if they
> wished this is not easy to do if you're on Blogger and have no
> where to upload HTML or PHP files. But... I got sidetracked with other
> things and never finished this off. Not even sure if other people
> would find it useful. What do you think?
>
> -josh
>
>
>
> On 10/11/05, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>of course it is best to provide all options to audience, since  
>> opinions differ, as we see here.
>>  whenever possible, we should try to cater to all preferences.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/11/05, Josh Leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>i like it when the video stays in the browser window.I don't like  
>>> the way Taylor does his popups (the actual quicktime app) and unless  
>>> there is a good reason for having a popup (like freevlog) then i say  
>>> don't do it. Ideally, all videos would be transcoded and embedded  
>>> right in the page like steve garfields...but not all of us are vblog  
>>> central members, and not all of us can do that...so i say let it  
>>> play int he browser window that is already open
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/11/05, Markus Sandy < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

   Man!  Don't you just hate it when people center things,  
 like pop-ups, and don't take into account people with dual screens?


  Devlon wrote:

I should clarify that I have two monitors so that makes a  
 difference.

 On 10/10/05, Devlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

  wrote:


  That is probably the only type of pop-up I don't mind.  It  
 allows me to do
 other stuff while the clip is playing.  Saves me from opening in a  
 new tab
 or window.





On 10/11/05, aroundtheperimeter  
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:





  If you vlog has its video pop up in a new window, is it  
 annoying?



  --
 ~Devlon
 http://8bitme.blogspot.com


 http://whiteguyforeignfoods.blogspot.com
 http://devlon.blogspot.com




 --
 ~Devlon
 http://8bitme.blogspot.com


 http://whiteguyforeignfoods.blogspot.com

 http://devlon.blogspot.com




 Yahoo! Groups Links


 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/


 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/






 .





 --

 My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us



 http://apperceptions.org
 http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com


 http://spinflow.org
 http://wearethemedia.com


 http://www.corante.com/events/feedfest/

 aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 msn:

 of course its best to provide all options to  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 skype: msandy
 spin:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]




>YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS


  Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web.

  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of  
 Service.


>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Josh Leo
>>>
>>> joshleo.com
>>>  stonefarm.blogspot.com
>>>  joshspicks.blogspot.com
>>> wearethemedia.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
>>>
>>>
>>>  Visit y

Re: [videoblogging] how do you feel about video popping up in a new window?

2005-10-11 Thread Joshua Kinberg
Actually, a pop-up window with an embedded player is quite useful.
Most people on the web are using MIcrosoft Internet Explorer
(unfortunately), and IE disables Quicktime Fast-Start playback unless
the video is properly embedded using both the HTML Object and Embed
tags. Simply linking to your videos, as many of us do, leaves IE users
waiting for whole video to download before it will begin to play.

Here's one solution... I was playing around with this a while back:
< 
http://www.joshkinberg.com/blog/popup.php?url=http://joshkinberg.com/blog/files/tornado.mov
>

Its a simple PHP page that you can pass in the URL of a video file and
it will properly embed that video. This way, you don't have to make a
new HTML page for every video pop-up window. You use the same page and
simply pass in the URL to the video you wish to display.

This could also be modified to handle various video types (like WMV).

Lastly, I also added controls to resize the video and window (which
might seem annoying to some of you, but hey just playing around here).

My idea was to finish this off and pass it to OurMedia so that people
could have a place to load up their video in a pop-up if they
wished this is not easy to do if you're on Blogger and have no
where to upload HTML or PHP files. But... I got sidetracked with other
things and never finished this off. Not even sure if other people
would find it useful. What do you think?

-josh



On 10/11/05, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>of course it is best to provide all options to audience, since opinions 
> differ, as we see here.
>  whenever possible, we should try to cater to all preferences.
>
>
>
> On 10/11/05, Josh Leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >i like it when the video stays in the browser window.I don't like the 
> > way Taylor does his popups (the actual quicktime app) and unless there is a 
> > good reason for having a popup (like freevlog) then i say don't do it. 
> > Ideally, all videos would be transcoded and embedded right in the page like 
> > steve garfields...but not all of us are vblog central members, and not all 
> > of us can do that...so i say let it play int he browser window that is 
> > already open
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/11/05, Markus Sandy < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >   Man!  Don't you just hate it when people center things, like 
> > > pop-ups, and don't take into account people with dual screens?
> > >
> > >
> > >  Devlon wrote:
> > >
> > >I should clarify that I have two monitors so that makes a difference.
> > >
> > > On 10/10/05, Devlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >  That is probably the only type of pop-up I don't mind.  It allows me 
> > > to do
> > > other stuff while the clip is playing.  Saves me from opening in a new tab
> > > or window.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >On 10/11/05, aroundtheperimeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  If you vlog has its video pop up in a new window, is it annoying?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  --
> > > ~Devlon
> > > http://8bitme.blogspot.com
> > >
> > >
> > > http://whiteguyforeignfoods.blogspot.com
> > > http://devlon.blogspot.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > ~Devlon
> > > http://8bitme.blogspot.com
> > >
> > >
> > > http://whiteguyforeignfoods.blogspot.com
> > >
> > > http://devlon.blogspot.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/
> > >
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >
> > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > .
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://apperceptions.org
> > > http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com
> > >
> > >
> > > http://spinflow.org
> > > http://wearethemedia.com
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.corante.com/events/feedfest/
> > >
> > > aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > msn:
> > >
> > > of course its best to provide all options to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > skype: msandy
> > > spin:
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
   YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
> > >
> > >
> > >  Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web.
> > >
> > >  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
> > >
> > >

> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Josh Leo
> >
> > joshleo.com
> >  stonefarm.blogspot.com
> >  joshspicks.blogspot.com
> > wearethemedia.com
> >
> >
> >
   YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
> >
> >
> >  Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web.
> >
> >  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> >   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
> >
> >

>
>
>
> --
> 

Re: [videoblogging] how do you feel about video popping up in a new window?

2005-10-11 Thread Pete Prodoehl
Justin Chapweske wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-10-11 at 04:38 +, aroundtheperimeter wrote:
> 
>>If you vlog has its video pop up in a new window, is it annoying? 
> 
> If it pops up in response to the user clicking on something, I think
> thats fine.

It's only annoying if it happened and I did not specifically choose to 
make it happen. Give me the choice. My browser has been able to do this 
with any link for the last 5 years.

Pete

-- 
http://tinkernet.org/
videoblog for the future...




 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> 
Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today!
http://us.click.yahoo.com/cd_AJB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM
~-> 

 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
 






Re: [videoblogging] how do you feel about video popping up in a new window?

2005-10-11 Thread Pete Prodoehl
Michael Sullivan wrote:
> of course it is best to provide all options to audience, since opinions
> differ, as we see here.
> whenever possible, we should try to cater to all preferences.

Agreed. In fact, I'd push it further and suggest you always give the 
user/viewer the option to do what *they* want to do.

For instance, there is no need to force a link to open in a new window 
(or tab) since most graphical browsers have had this feature built in 
for the last 5 years. Let the user decide. Happy users are a good thing.

Pete

-- 
http://tinkernet.org/
videoblog for the future...




 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> 
Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today!
http://us.click.yahoo.com/cd_AJB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM
~-> 

 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
 






Re: [videoblogging] how do you feel about video popping up in a new window?

2005-10-11 Thread Justin Chapweske
On Tue, 2005-10-11 at 04:38 +, aroundtheperimeter wrote:
> If you vlog has its video pop up in a new window, is it annoying? 

If it pops up in response to the user clicking on something, I think
thats fine.



 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> 
Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life.
http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM
~-> 

 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
 






Re: [videoblogging] how do you feel about video popping up in a new window?

2005-10-11 Thread Michael Sullivan



of course it is best to provide all options to audience, since opinions differ, as we see here.
whenever possible, we should try to cater to all preferences.On 10/11/05, Josh Leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



i like it when the video stays in the browser window.I don't like the
way Taylor does his popups (the actual quicktime app) and unless there
is a good reason for having a popup (like freevlog) then i say don't do
it. Ideally, all videos would be transcoded and embedded right in the
page like steve garfields...but not all of us are vblog central
members, and not all of us can do that...so i say let it play int he
browser window that is already openOn 10/11/05, Markus Sandy <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



  




Man!  Don't you just hate it when people center things, like pop-ups,
and don't take into account people with dual screens?


Devlon wrote:

  I should clarify that I have two monitors so that makes a difference.On 10/10/05, Devlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 wrote:  
  
That is probably the only type of pop-up I don't mind.  It allows me to doother stuff while the clip is playing.  Saves me from opening in a new tabor window.

  On 10/11/05, aroundtheperimeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  

  
If you vlog has its video pop up in a new window, is it annoying?
  

--~Devlonhttp://8bitme.blogspot.com
http://whiteguyforeignfoods.blogspot.comhttp://devlon.blogspot.com
  
  --~Devlonhttp://8bitme.blogspot.com
http://whiteguyforeignfoods.blogspot.comhttp://devlon.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> 
Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back!http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM
~->  Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ .  



-- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us
http://apperceptions.orghttp://digitaldojo.blogspot.com
http://spinflow.orghttp://wearethemedia.com
http://www.corante.com/events/feedfest/aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED]msn: 
of course its best to provide all options to [EMAIL PROTECTED]skype: msandyspin: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



  




  
  
  YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS



   Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. 


   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.





  









-- Josh Leojoshleo.com
stonefarm.blogspot.com
joshspicks.blogspot.comwearethemedia.com


  




  
  
  YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS



   Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. 

   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.




  








-- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -"The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born"
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator 
http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog





  
  
SPONSORED LINKS
  
  
  

Individual
  
  
Fireant
  
  
Typepad
  
  


Use
  

   
  







  
  
  YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS



   Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. 
   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.



  









Re: [videoblogging] how do you feel about video popping up in a new window?

2005-10-11 Thread Pete Prodoehl
Kunga wrote:
> I'm making all mine open in QuickTime Player so the viewer has total  
> control over how they watch it - including screen size. That way it  
> can scale to full screen if they like without having to report to  
> zoom in.

So you are giving them 'total control over how they watch it' while 
forcing them to use QuickTime Player?

There's an old usability suggestion on the web that goes something "do 
what all the other sites are doing" which is one way of suggesting that 
people are used to the way *other sites work* so even if you think 
you're being unique, or better, or innovative, if the usability is 
affected negatively, it may not be the best idea.

Pete

-- 
http://tinkernet.org/
videoblog for the future...




 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> 
Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today!
http://us.click.yahoo.com/cd_AJB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM
~-> 

 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
 





Re: [videoblogging] how do you feel about video popping up in a new window?

2005-10-11 Thread Josh Leo



i like it when the video stays in the browser window.I don't like the
way Taylor does his popups (the actual quicktime app) and unless there
is a good reason for having a popup (like freevlog) then i say don't do
it. Ideally, all videos would be transcoded and embedded right in the
page like steve garfields...but not all of us are vblog central
members, and not all of us can do that...so i say let it play int he
browser window that is already openOn 10/11/05, Markus Sandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



  




Man!  Don't you just hate it when people center things, like pop-ups,
and don't take into account people with dual screens?


Devlon wrote:

  I should clarify that I have two monitors so that makes a difference.On 10/10/05, Devlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 wrote:  
  
That is probably the only type of pop-up I don't mind.  It allows me to doother stuff while the clip is playing.  Saves me from opening in a new tabor window.

  On 10/11/05, aroundtheperimeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  

  
If you vlog has its video pop up in a new window, is it annoying?
  

--~Devlonhttp://8bitme.blogspot.com
http://whiteguyforeignfoods.blogspot.comhttp://devlon.blogspot.com
  
  --~Devlonhttp://8bitme.blogspot.com
http://whiteguyforeignfoods.blogspot.com
http://devlon.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back!
http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM~->  Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ .  



-- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us
http://apperceptions.orghttp://digitaldojo.blogspot.com
http://spinflow.orghttp://wearethemedia.com
http://www.corante.com/events/feedfest/aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED]msn: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]skype: msandyspin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



  




  
  
  YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS



   Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. 

   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.




  









-- Josh Leojoshleo.comstonefarm.blogspot.com
joshspicks.blogspot.comwearethemedia.com


  




  
  
  YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS



   Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. 
   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.



  









Re: [videoblogging] how do you feel about video popping up in a new window?

2005-10-11 Thread Markus Sandy






Man!  Don't you just hate it when people center things, like pop-ups,
and don't take into account people with dual screens?


Devlon wrote:

  I should clarify that I have two monitors so that makes a difference.

On 10/10/05, Devlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  
  
That is probably the only type of pop-up I don't mind.  It allows me to do
other stuff while the clip is playing.  Saves me from opening in a new tab
or window.





  On 10/11/05, aroundtheperimeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  
  
If you vlog has its video pop up in a new window, is it annoying?



  


--
~Devlon
http://8bitme.blogspot.com
http://whiteguyforeignfoods.blogspot.com
http://devlon.blogspot.com

  
  

--
~Devlon
http://8bitme.blogspot.com
http://whiteguyforeignfoods.blogspot.com
http://devlon.blogspot.com


 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> 
Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back!
http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM
~-> 

 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
 





.

  



-- 

My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us

http://apperceptions.org
http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com
http://spinflow.org
http://wearethemedia.com
http://www.corante.com/events/feedfest/

aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
skype: msandy
spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



  




  
  
  YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS



   Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. 
   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.



  










Re: [videoblogging] how do you feel about video popping up in a new window?

2005-10-11 Thread Kunga
I'm making all mine open in QuickTime Player so the viewer has total  
control over how they watch it - including screen size. That way it  
can scale to full screen if they like without having to report to  
zoom in.
-- 
Taylor Barcroft http://www.blogger.com/profile/11159903
New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Webcaster, Futurecaster
Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley
URL http://FutureMedia.org
RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia
iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87

On Oct 10, 2005, at 10:51 PM, Devlon wrote:

> That is probably the only type of pop-up I don't mind.  It allows  
> me to do other stuff while the clip is playing.  Saves me from  
> opening in a new tab or window.



 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> 
Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today!
http://us.click.yahoo.com/cd_AJB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM
~-> 

 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
 






Re: [videoblogging] how do you feel about video popping up in a new window?

2005-10-11 Thread Devlon
I should clarify that I have two monitors so that makes a difference.

On 10/10/05, Devlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That is probably the only type of pop-up I don't mind.  It allows me to do
> other stuff while the clip is playing.  Saves me from opening in a new tab
> or window.
>
>
>
> > On 10/11/05, aroundtheperimeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > If you vlog has its video pop up in a new window, is it annoying?
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> ~Devlon
> http://8bitme.blogspot.com
> http://whiteguyforeignfoods.blogspot.com
> http://devlon.blogspot.com


--
~Devlon
http://8bitme.blogspot.com
http://whiteguyforeignfoods.blogspot.com
http://devlon.blogspot.com


 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> 
Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back!
http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM
~-> 

 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
 





Re: [videoblogging] how do you feel about video popping up in a new window?

2005-10-10 Thread Lucas Gonze
You need popups whenever you spin off an independent timeline.  An
edit box has a timeline, a video has a timeline, but a passive control
like a title doesn't have a timeline.

On 10/10/05, Devlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  That is probably the only type of pop-up I don't mind.  It allows me to do
> other stuff while the clip is playing.  Saves me from opening in a new tab
> or window.
>
>
> > On 10/11/05, aroundtheperimeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > If you vlog has its video pop up in a new window, is it annoying?
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> ~Devlon
> http://8bitme.blogspot.com
> http://whiteguyforeignfoods.blogspot.com
> http://devlon.blogspot.com
>
>
>  
>  YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
>
>
>  Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web.
>
>  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
>
>  
>


 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> 
Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life.
http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM
~-> 

 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
 






Re: [videoblogging] how do you feel about video popping up in a new window?

2005-10-10 Thread Devlon



That is probably the only type of pop-up I don't mind.  It allows
me to do other stuff while the clip is playing.  Saves me from
opening in a new tab or window.On 10/11/05, 
aroundtheperimeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

If you vlog has its video pop up in a new window, is it annoying?-- ~Devlonhttp://8bitme.blogspot.com
http://whiteguyforeignfoods.blogspot.comhttp://devlon.blogspot.com


  




  
  
  YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS



   Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. 
   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.



  









Re: [videoblogging] how do you feel about video popping up in a new window?

2005-10-10 Thread Michael Sullivan



i like it if it is a size controlled window with embedded player, and
its helpful if it places itself in top left of screen.  i am doing
this for video playlists on vlogdir.com 
its nice because i can watch an entire rss video feed and still browse the web in main window or whatever.

sullOn 10/11/05, aroundtheperimeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If you vlog has its video pop up in a new window, is it annoying? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-->Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life.
http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM~->
Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -"The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born"
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator 
http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog





  
  
SPONSORED LINKS
  
  
  

Individual
  
  
Fireant
  
  
Typepad
  
  


Use
  

   
  







  
  
  YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS



   Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. 
   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.