Re: [videoblogging] Re: all the secrets revealed
IANAL and all that. You can't copyright ideas, only works. So making a video and describing the same settings as Freevlog is totally legal. Using the same words to describe them is not (using the same screencasts is even worse). - Andreas On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 07:58:25 +0100, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So the guy who made this lives in San Antonio and he came into NODE101 a couple of weeks ago. He gave me a key to log on and check out his tutorial. It's a lot like FreeVlog. So much so that it kind of bothers me. So how different or similar does it have to be to be considered a copyright violation? I mean, most of the info on Freevlog can be put together by doing some research. It's not propriatary information. But it's just weird that he tells you to compress videos for the web using the same exact settings that we do on Freevlog for example. Not that those settings are trade secrets or something. It's just weird that he came into to compliment me on what a great resource it is and then shows me his tutorial that he sells for $250 with much of the same info in it. -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income homes are not online. Make a difference this holiday season! http://us.click.yahoo.com/5UeCyC/BWHMAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [videoblogging] re: all the secrets revealed
now i get it the video i pod is the driving force of video blogging, gee all this time i thought it was verdi randy From: JD Lasica [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] re: all the secrets revealed Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 00:31:08 -0800 Hmm, I'm not sure why anyone would be touting this guy ... http://vblogsecrets.com/ Seems like a really bad infomercial. I wouldn't buy a $97 video from these folks if they threw in a Pamela Anderson highlights reel as a bonus. We can do better, packaging this movement through Node101, Ourmedia and other outlets -- from the people who started the movement and know what it's really about, not some huckster. We know vlogging is about to explode. That's a given. Let's share our knowledge and learnings in an informed, inclusive way. How about creating a Node101 series of videos, if that's not already in the works? I'll volunteer to supervise the project. jd lasica Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/.QUssC/izNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: all the secrets revealed
I have seen several video blogging secret types of e-books/seminars/video seriesand services being promoted online for thepast fewmonths. Here is one of the guys who offers home business owners and internet businesses classes on creating video blog/podcasts as marketing tools for products or sevices. http://easyfilehosting.com/jimedwards/jim_s_big_prediction_for_2006_broadband/index.html Theyare sellingvideo blogging secrets as a part of theirinternet marketingseminars. So there seems to be a large demographic...wanting to learn but not really taking the time to search the net for free info on vlogging. Johnie "James A. Donnelly" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -This guy is the used car salesman of vblogging.jad-- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Randy Mann" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: now i get it the video i pod is the driving force of video blogging,gee all this time i thought it was verdi randy From: JD Lasica [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] re: all the secrets revealed Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 00:31:08 -0800 Hmm, I'm not sure why anyone would be touting this guy ... http://vblogsecrets.com/ Seems like a really bad infomercial. I wouldn't buy a $97 video from these folks if they threw in a Pamela Anderson highlights reel as a bonus. We can do better, packaging this movement through Node101, Ourmedia and other outlets -- from the people who started the movement and know what it's really about, not some huckster. We know vlogging is about to explode. That's a given. Let's share our knowledge and learnings in an informed, inclusive way. How about creating a Node101 series of videos, if that's not already in the works? I'll volunteer to supervise the project. jd lasica Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: all the secrets revealed
Here is another selling the concept of video online.http://www.websitevideosecrets.com/"James A. Donnelly" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -This guy is the used car salesman of vblogging.jad-- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Randy Mann" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: now i get it the video i pod is the driving force of video blogging,gee all this time i thought it was verdi randy From: JD Lasica [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] re: all the secrets revealed Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 00:31:08 -0800 Hmm, I'm not sure why anyone would be touting this guy ... http://vblogsecrets.com/ Seems like a really bad infomercial. I wouldn't buy a $97 video from these folks if they threw in a Pamela Anderson highlights reel as a bonus. We can do better, packaging this movement through Node101, Ourmedia and other outlets -- from the people who started the movement and know what it's really about, not some huckster. We know vlogging is about to explode. That's a given. Let's share our knowledge and learnings in an informed, inclusive way. How about creating a Node101 series of videos, if that's not already in the works? I'll volunteer to supervise the project. jd lasica Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: all the secrets revealed
Yeap...all for 39.95.wazman_au [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah but where are my free steak knives?Wazwww.crashtestkitchen.com--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, johnie tidwell[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have seen several video blogging secret types ofe-books/seminars/video series and services being promoted online forthe past few months. Here is one of the guys who offers home businessowners and internet businesses classes on creating video blog/podcastsas marketing tools for products or sevices. http://easyfilehosting.com/jimedwards/jim_s_big_prediction_for_2006_broadband/index.html They are selling video blogging secrets as a part of their internetmarketing seminars. So there seems to be a largedemographic...wanting to learn but not really taking the time tosearch the net for free info on vlogging. Johnie "James A. Donnelly" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -This guy is the used car salesman of vblogging. jad -- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Randy Mann" [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: now i get it the video i pod is the driving force of video blogging, gee all this time i thought it was verdirandy From: JD Lasica [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] re: all the secrets revealed Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 00:31:08 -0800Hmm, I'm not sure why anyone would be touting this guy ...http://vblogsecrets.com/Seems like a really bad infomercial. I wouldn't buy a $97 video from these folks if they threw in a Pamela Anderson highlights reel as a bonus.We can do better, packaging this movement through Node101, Ourmedia and other outlets -- from the people who started the movement andknow what it's really about, not some huckster. We know vlogging is about to explode. That's a given. Let's share our knowledge and learnings in an informed, inclusive way.How about creating a Node101 series of videos, if that's not already in the works? I'll volunteer to supervise the project.jd lasica- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKSVisit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms ofService.- - Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events,holidays, whatever. Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] re: all the secrets revealed
yeah the same thing happened back when webcams were hot on the market...and email video too. its just the way it is... sharks looking at trends and hype and then they try to dress it up in their typical sucker convincing way targeting non-techie types who dont realize that google searching is free and instead will spend $499 for information and be told that they can optionally resell it to others.. and so on... MLM, pyramids, selling what is free, masked as some exclusive content. this is so nothing new. it does show you that video is the almighty. that, my friends, is not a trend.sullOn 12/23/05, JD Lasica [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hmm, I'm not sure why anyone would be touting this guy ... http://vblogsecrets.com/Seems like a really bad infomercial. I wouldn't buy a $97 video fromthese folks if they threw in a Pamela Anderson highlights reel as a bonus.We can do better, packaging this movement through Node101, Ourmediaand other outlets -- from the people who started the movement and knowwhat it's really about, not some huckster. We know vlogging is about to explode. That's a given.Let's share our knowledge and learningsin an informed, inclusive way.How about creating a Node101 series of videos, if that's not alreadyin the works? I'll volunteer to supervise the project. jd lasica Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--AIDS in India: A lurking bomb. Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/VpTY2A/lzNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM~-Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: all the secrets revealed
how is it sucky?all knowldege is a mash-up anyway.every book is written from info gathered elsewhere for the most part.and isnt the point in our culture... sharing knowldege?should matter which book its from... in fact, it should be free ebooks, yeah!sorry, not meaning to be hardass. just saying.On 12/23/05, Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Dec 23, 2005, at 4:49 AM, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen wrote: IANAL and all that. You can't copyright ideas, only works. So making a video and describing the same settings as Freevlog is totally legal. Using the same words to describe them is not (using the same screencasts is even worse). - AndreasYeah this is why I haven't done anything about it. I'm pretty sureit's totally legal. Sucky, but totally legal.Verdi Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back!http://us.click.yahoo.com/2jUsvC/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM~- Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- sull- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directoryhttp://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] re: all the secrets revealed
so does anyone know which free and paid hosting services this guy mentions? it would seem that any good tutorial series would have to include modules for each vendor (mainly hosting in this case) thus it will need constant updating perhaps vendors should make (or sponsor) their own part (i.e., how to upload video) and submit them to freevlog for approval/recommendation? JD Lasica wrote: Hmm, I'm not sure why anyone would be touting this guy ... http://vblogsecrets.com/ Seems like a really bad infomercial. I wouldn't buy a $97 video from these folks if they threw in a Pamela Anderson highlights reel as a bonus. We can do better, packaging this movement through Node101, Ourmedia and other outlets -- from the people who started the movement and know what it's really about, not some huckster. We know vlogging is about to explode. That's a given. Let's share our knowledge and learnings in an informed, inclusive way. How about creating a Node101 series of videos, if that's not already in the works? I'll volunteer to supervise the project. jd lasica Yahoo! Groups Links . -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://node101.org http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://xpressionvlog.blogspot.com aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/2jUsvC/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: all the secrets revealed
On 12/23/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how is it sucky?It sucky in that he's basically repackaged the free FreeVlog info and is selling it for $250. I wish I could send an email to his mailing list with a link to FreeVlog. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: all the secrets revealed
I puked a little in my mouth watching that. yes. please ch3eck out the site: http://vblogsecrets.com/ its so cool seeing this guy talk about the things we've been discussing the past year. its amazing. he hits all the right infojust marketing it to people who are will pay for 3 great packages: Package Number 1: Getting Your Feet Wet CLICK HERE TO ORDER (Only $97.00) - Package Number 2: Deeper CLICK HERE TO ORDER (Only $147.00) Package Number 3: Immersion CLICK HERE TO ORDER (Only $250.00) The titles sound like soft-porn videos. on another note...check out this new videoblog done by my friend: http://mediapolicy.blogspot.com/ wow...next year, there is going to be so much video on the web coming from all diferent places. jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging URL: http://www.momentshowing.net http://feeds.feedburner.com/Momentshowing http://getFireAnt.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/WpTY2A/izNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: all the secrets revealed
hey you can send 250$ to freevlog and then just watch our videos same thing right? this guy is selling public knowledge. huh? for only 19.95 I'LL TEACH YOU HOW TO SEARCH FOR STUFF ON GOOGLE!!! On 12/23/05, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I puked a little in my mouth watching that. yes. please ch3eck out the site: http://vblogsecrets.com/ its so cool seeing this guy talk about the things we've been discussing the past year. its amazing. he hits all the right infojust marketing it to people who are will pay for 3 great packages: Package Number 1: Getting Your Feet Wet CLICK HERE TO ORDER (Only $97.00) - Package Number 2: Deeper CLICK HERE TO ORDER (Only $147.00) Package Number 3: Immersion CLICK HERE TO ORDER (Only $250.00) The titles sound like soft-porn videos. on another note...check out this new videoblog done by my friend: http://mediapolicy.blogspot.com/ wow...next year, there is going to be so much video on the web coming from all diferent places. jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging URL: http://www.momentshowing.net http://feeds.feedburner.com/Momentshowing http://getFireAnt.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- me: http://ryanedit.blogspot.com educate in person: http://nyc.node101.org educate online: http://freevlog.org videos i want you to see: http://revlog.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: all the secrets revealed
Sounds like you may need to contact a media/copyright lawyer. Feel free to share the key ;)Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So the guy who made this lives in San Antonio and he came into NODE101 a couple of weeks ago. He gave me a key to log on and check out his tutorial. It's a lot like FreeVlog. So much so that it kind of bothers me. So how different or similar does it have to be to be considered a copyright violation? I mean, most of the info on Freevlog can be put together by doing some research. It's not propriatary information. But it's just weird that he tells you to compress videos for the web using the same exact settings that we do on Freevlog for example. Not that those settings are trade secrets or something. It's just weird that he came into to compliment me on what a great resource it is and then shows me his tutorial that he sells for $250 with much of the same info in it. -Verdi On 12/23/05, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I puked a little in my mouth watching that.yes.please ch3eck out the site:http://vblogsecrets.com/its so cool seeing this guy talk about the things we've been discussing the past year.its amazing.he hits all the right infojust marketing it to people who are willpay for 3 great packages:Package Number 1: "Getting Your Feet Wet"CLICK HERE TO ORDER (Only $97.00) -Package Number 2: "Deeper"CLICK HERE TO ORDER (Only $147.00)Package Number 3: "Immersion"CLICK HERE TO ORDER (Only $250.00)The titles sound like soft-porn videos. on another note...check out this new videoblog done by my friend:http://mediapolicy.blogspot.com/wow...next year, there is going to be so much video on the web coming from all diferent places.jay--Adventures in VideobloggingURL: http://www.momentshowing.net http://feeds.feedburner.com/Momentshowinghttp://getFireAnt.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/WpTY2A/izNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM~-Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
