Re: [Videolib] Friday fair use question

2011-10-22 Thread Gail Fedak
This prof primarily uses materials from his personal collection, not so much from ours. He's been teaching this class for at least 10-15 years, and streaming video collections have been available on our campus for only 2-3 years. We have in our hard copy collection a few docs made by a couple

Re: [Videolib] Friday fair use question

2011-10-21 Thread Gail Fedak
Many thanks! Gail On 10/21/2011 3:57 PM, ghand...@library.berkeley.edu wrote: Hey Gail I'd say yeah, definitely, unless FU is trumped by specific contractual language which forbids certain uses (I've haven't seen any such language so far--at least in the licenses we've signed). Even if the

Re: [Videolib] Friday fair use question

2011-10-21 Thread Jessica Rosner
I agree generally but you would really need to say what is involved. There are in fact significant restrictions in most streaming licenses. The most basic is that you can not download or copy the material and as that is specific and contractual I think it would indeed hold up in court and would

Re: [Videolib] Friday fair use question

2011-10-21 Thread Jessica Rosner
Contrary to popular belief Gary we agree on a lot. On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 5:44 PM, ghand...@library.berkeley.edu wrote: Well, yeah...We're talking about streamed content, and I think the common contractual/license stipulation against downloading may shoot the show as far as the use of clips

Re: [Videolib] Friday fair use question

2011-10-21 Thread Gail Fedak
Jessica, Gary, The prof who posed the question teaches a documentary filmmaking class in the history department. Although the class is not taught in the College of Mass Communication, its purpose is to teach students how to create documentaries, the final class project being to create a short

Re: [Videolib] Friday fair use question

2011-10-21 Thread Jessica Rosner
You know I am not much of a techie, but it appears you are trying to allow a student to download or copy a film from a stream. Not sure that is breaking encryption, but it would clearly violate most contracts and frankly freak the hell out of distributors who have set up their own streaming