Re: [VM] Default account for imap

2012-06-18 Thread Uday Reddy
blueman writes:

 Given that there is a concept of a vm-imap-default-account, I think it
 might be helpful if such a default could be used to shorten references
 to imap folders on the default account, especially since most people are
 probably just using the default account the majority if not all of the
 time.

If you use only one IMAP account, you need to type it only the first time.
Later on, the prompt will automatically use it as the default.

But it is a good idea to use the default account for the first prompt as
well.  I will put it on the to-do list.

Cheers,
Uday



Re: [VM] Default account for imap

2012-06-18 Thread blueman
Uday Reddy usr.vm.ro...@gmail.com writes:

 blueman writes:

 Given that there is a concept of a vm-imap-default-account, I think it
 might be helpful if such a default could be used to shorten references
 to imap folders on the default account, especially since most people are
 probably just using the default account the majority if not all of the
 time.

 If you use only one IMAP account, you need to type it only the first time.
 Later on, the prompt will automatically use it as the default.

 But it is a good idea to use the default account for the first prompt as
 well.  I will put it on the to-do list.

Thanks.

More generally, I just wonder whether one can eliminate the whole need
to mention default server since I imagine most people don't have more
than one server and it can be confusing/cluttering.

I agree that pre-filling it in as the default is helpful in terms of
saving typing but is it really necessary from a simplicity/cleanliness
perspective. In other words, I would prefer a behavior that assumed the
default server (maybe not even a need for a colon at all) unless
otherwise specified.

Indeed, dropping the need for the use of a colon when using the default
server would make the usage more consistent with local folders for the
presumably majority of the time when people are accessing their default
server.

This is obviously not a big deal, but just something that I think would
simplify imap and its usage for those who have just one server (or who
use one server the majority of the time)


Re: [VM] Default account for imap

2012-06-18 Thread Uday Reddy
blueman writes:

 I agree that pre-filling it in as the default is helpful in terms of
 saving typing but is it really necessary from a simplicity/cleanliness
 perspective. In other words, I would prefer a behavior that assumed the
 default server (maybe not even a need for a colon at all) unless
 otherwise specified.

Sorry, I absolutely don't agree with this cleanliness claim.  People can
have many imap accounts and, in addition, local folders, and they can use
the same folder names in all of them.  The place where the folder exists is
an important part of its identity.  I have no inclination to brush under the
carpet the differences that exist and that should be noted/remembered.

In fact, the problem for many of us has been quite the opposite.  We have
had users that said they have 10 different inbox folders and they can't
keep track of which is which.  So, I added a tweak so that inbox folder
buffers are named by their account names inside Emacs.

 This is obviously not a big deal, ...

Exactly.  So let us drop it.

Cheers,
Uday