Monica,
well here is my way, not the only possible, naturally. ;-
on the first line in the second bar - are the figures over the second
D 5-6?
Yes. And I'd play 5-b6. (and also the last chord if 1st bar G-minor.
on the first line in the third bar the second 7-6 - should the 6 be
sharp
and theorbo there are lots of Lully, and here and there some pieces also
by other great names of those times.
Best,
Arto
On 16/11/12 22:02, Arto Wikla wrote:
Dear lutenists of every type and baroque guitarists,
I find it quite interesting that monsieur de Visee made some
arrangements
Dear flat back lutenists,
My try on de Visee's Chaconne in A minor is - as I told - is in
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqHHPeLMNYUfeature=youtu.be
http://vimeo.com/53172045
As I said, there is the original(?) theorbo version of this d-minor lute
version, but I have a strong memory
, Arto Wikla [1]wi...@cs.helsinki.fi wrote:
Perhaps someone in the main lute list and in the vihuela list
(mainly baroque guitar list) could be interested in de Visee stuff
by baroque lute? I tried to play some:
Robert de Visee: Pastoralle in F# minor
[2]http
Great project and very beautiful video! Thanks Bud!
Arto
On 13/09/12 18:29, bud roach wrote:
Hello Friends-
On this issue I do have something to contribute- a very specific
example from the alfabeto repertoire (along with some shameless
self-promotion!)
In preparation
Well, Oliver Strunk writes chitarrino. As far as I know, chitarrino, 4
course renaissance guitar, was not at all unknown in Italy in times of
Agazzari... But I have never heard about chitarrina, but of course that
does not exclude its existence... ;-)
best regards,
Arto
On Sun, 11 Dec 2011
I am afraid that we have opened the Pandora's box ... ;-)
Arto
On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:55:52 -, Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk
wrote:
A pandora is a lute shaped wire-strung instrument. It is one of the
instruments which forms part of the broken consort for which Morley et al
://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/agazzari.html
All the best,
Arto
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Dear flat-back lutenists,
as I told earlier, also we fat-back lutenists strum our instrument every
now and then. My example of today is a nice piece - with politically not so
correct name,though, see
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8q45d1wDww
Best,
Arto
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Dear Martyn,
Well, my comment was not about contents but style of writing... And it
really was not so very serious... These conversations sometimes actually
are quite entertaining, too.
All the best,
Arto
On 12/05/11 11:24, Martyn Hodgson wrote:
But my dear Arto
- there really
:
He told me that he found it in the attic of the oldest house of the course
center... And the piece just happened to be Preludio detta la Wikla...
You can find his original handwriting - and also a really good piece to
theorbo! - in
http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/Tiorba/PreludioW.pdf
Thanks to everyone
for introducing b-guitar to a theorbist!
While thinking of b-guitar I had to tube some strumming on b-lute, a
Sarabande by Mercure:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTZKpXIx1Dg
Arto
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Dear flat-back lutenists,
is there any repertoire/composer of baroque guitar that/who without any
modern disagreement definitely used the double re-entrant tuning - the
5th and 4th having only in the upper octaves? De Visee perhaps?
To a theorbist with two top strings lowered an octave that
--- On Fri, 3/9/10, wikla wi...@cs.helsinki.fi wrote:
From: wikla wi...@cs.helsinki.fi
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Castaldi
To: l...@cs.dartmouth.edu
Cc: vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu
Date: Friday, 3 September, 2010, 21:28
Thanks for your thanks Ron!
There in the same
Dear baroque guitarists,
I just am so happy that the life to us, lutenists, is so much simpler than
it seems to be to you! Not too much trouble with the bourdons and
octaves. ;-)
And we have more or less the basses there, too.
Happy playing and strumming! :)
Arto
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Interesting!
I just happened to hear the Private Musicke and Kozuna just before the
talks here. They happened to have the opening concert here in the Helsinki
Festival: Love Madrigals of the 17th century. Great! Clearly the first
time early music gets that much attention in this festival.
I
Dear flat back lutenists, especially baroque guitarists,
I've done some de Visee tubings by Théorbe de pieces that perhaps might
interest also baroque guitarists?
In any case de Visee made (or had made?) his guitar pieces to theorbo and
his theorbo pieces to guitar.
So the following theorbo
On 1/11/2009, Stuart Walsh s.wa...@ntlworld.com wrote:
I've put a couple of little pieces in A minor by Graf Logy ...or Losy
..or whatever his name is:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=AlFRlm97MTIfeature=channel_page
Why so many videos in the tube are without the head of the player? Makes
gary digman wrote:
There may be a reason to be concerned about whether one is tuned in E,
G or A. Dissonances become more dissonant as pitch is lowered. This
might noticeably change the texture of the music.
This is interesting! Why dissonances would become more dissonant as
pitch is
This is interesting! Why dissonances would become more dissonant as
pitch is lowered? Is it an opinion or a physical fact?
Speaking as a piano tuner, I can say it's a physical fact on a piano.
Much less so on a harpsichord, and undoubtedly much less so on a vihuela
also. Piano strings are
Roman Turovsky wrote:
I've read through that PDF, and it contains quite a few Ukrainian items,
some of them in really peculiar versions. For example- #22 is really
based on
http://www.torban.org/pisni/images/hryts1.pdf
http://www.torban.org/pisni/images/hryts1.mid
On 5/31/2008, Monica Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
.
Much earlier Italian sources, e.g Millioni indicate that you should strum
between the rose and the neck.
..
You should play with the right hand, with three or four fingers, having them
separate from one another, so as to render the music
Dear Eugene and the Lists,
On 4/11/2008, Eugene C. Braig IV wrote:
At 05:25 AM 4/11/2008, Arto Wikla wrote:
The mandora here means the tiny soprano lute, perhaps it should be
called mandolino?
Depends, but in this case, it definitely looks like the paradigm that is
commonly accepted
On 1/18/2008, Monica Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In things like the Cavalieri the singer probably accompanied himself on
stage, rather than the guitar being part of the continuo group.
I suppose the on-stage playing was most often played by the continuo
group. There are several examples
I don't really see any black swan issues here. An instrument is what its
contemporary builders and players named it. I don't see nearly as much
value in categorizing instrument types into biological-like families as
some. Of course, all these things are related and borrow inspiration from
On Wednesday 02 May 2007 19:03, bill kilpatrick wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFyvrCMmt8k
Nice! Very nice! Thanks Bill.
Arto
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Dear all,
BTW, who of us played lute or vihuela better in 1970's than those video
examples of Williams or Akkermann, not to speak of Bream?
Just a thought...
Arto
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James Tyler, Robert Spencer,
Anthony Bailes, Diana Poulton, Dumbois, Donna Curry,
Richard Glenn, Jurgen Hubscher, Walter Gerwig, Konrad
Ragossnig, Anthony Rooley, Narcisso Yepes
And you never know how far to the skies the Internet reaches today...
Arto
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Utopia
dir. and baroque harp Andrew Lawrence-King
.
* Ricardo Padilla, percussion
* Annamari Pölhö, organ
* Visa Jämsä, dulcian
* Arto Wikla, chitarrino
* Timo Peedu, baroque guitar
* Teppo Hirvonen, baroque guitar
Composers: Milan, Gutiérrez de Padilla, Hidalgo
Dear Monica
I don't know whether there is still anyone on this list - but if there
is
There are! ;-)
perhaps they can tell me what they know about Mean Tone Temperament on
plucked stringed instruments, especially the baroque guitar.
For background you perhaps can read the following
of keyboard
instruments are really useful in fretted lutes/theorboes/guitars - we have
to use one string/course for many notes... I believe in the practical ways
of setting our movable frets, and the use of some tastini here and
there, see my quotations of V. Galilei:
http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla
On Tue, 15 Nov 2005, billkilpatrick wrote:
scorching, arto. i took the liberty of posting your mp3 address to the
various charango sites. complimenti - bill
Thanks Bill.
I added also my tab of the Bella Pedrina (and some other pieces) to
the page. So you can see I strum much more than
in my arrangement of Zannetti's Bella Pedrina... ;-)
The address of the page is
http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/own/
Arto
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Dear Rob,
you wrote among other matters:
Your comment about the bray harp (see below) is an interesting one. For
those who are unaware, the 'bray' refers to a bit of wood on the soundboard
of a Renaissance harp which touched the string gently. As the string was
struck it would buzz as it
Dear vihuelists and early guitarists,
this info has been already submitted to the lute list, but perhaps
everyone here is not reading the main list. That is why I copy
my messages here:
In Yale, Beinecke Lib. there are some mss. online. I happened to notice
that there are also some pieces for
Hi (and a copy to the vihuela-list)
On Thursday 15 September 2005 01:35, you wrote:
thank you arto, i will. i think i have a cd of his
... does he play harp?
He is a harpist virtuoso, but in his bands there have been also
strummers of renaissance and baroque guitars. I'll google a little,
Dear Bill,
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005, bill kilpatrick wrote:
andean. haven't a clue what rhythms might have been
popular during the baroque period in europe (outside
the conservatory, of course ... ) you game to try
something from the baroque repertoire with a south
american flavor?
..
Hi all
On Sun, 14 Aug 2005, Lex Eisenhardt wrote:
There is Biagio Marini's op XXII. In this ensemble work of rather
straightforward homophonic dances Marini added alfabeto. The guitar can be
used, 'a beneplacito'. There is a modern edition by S.P.E.S. In this case
the guitar is probably
:
There is quite vast amount of music for chitarrino, renaissance 4
course guitar, guitarra di sette corde.
If you want so see mine, take a look to
http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/LutePics/Chitarrino.gif
and
http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/LutePics/ArtoChitarrino.gif
The instrument
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