evident even where this
does occur.
regards
Martyn
--- On Mon, 19/12/11, Martin Shepherd mar...@luteshop.co.uk wrote:
From: Martin Shepherd mar...@luteshop.co.uk
Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Caccini's instrument
To: Vihuela List vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu
Date: Monday, 19
Dear Stewart,
We all seem to think that the printed bass line is what should be played
ideally. And probably it was played like it is on the keyboard (which
Caccini was master of). In practice (on his beloved theorbo?) adaptations
would have to be made regarding octaves, and, as an exception,
Of Martyn Hodgson
Sent: 19 December 2011 09:57
To: Vihuela List
Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Caccini's instrument
Dear Lex, As you say it does all seem a bit endless..
But might I suggest one reason (amongst others) why it may seem so:
only yesterday I gave a direct quote
: Monday, December 19, 2011 8:28 AM
Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Caccini's instrument
Dear Stewart,
We all seem to think that the printed bass line is what should be played
ideally. And probably it was played like it is on the keyboard (which
Caccini was master of). In practice (on his beloved theorbo
All this is very interesting. I couldn't actually track down the song.
Which of Caccini's books is it in?
I had never realized that the mighty theorbo had problems reproducing the
bass line! But from what you say it seems that it is the same as on the
guitar. The lowest note is A with a
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From: Lex Eisenhardt eisenha...@planet.nl
To: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk
Cc: Vihuelalist vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 3:33 PM
Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Caccini's instrument
- Original Message -
From: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk
You yourself have quoted Campion in your article -
it is not necessary to be preoccupied by the jumping of the bass from
low to high register. It is sufficient that the note is there . Even
on the harpsichord etc
But what Campion doesn't say is whether the bass would rise
On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 14:56:46 -, Monica Hall wrote
What other instrument do you suppose that he had in mind then? The
only instrument with a large enough compass to be able to reproduce
the bass line below the voice part in every set of circumstances
would be a keyboard instrument and
On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 15:33:43 +0100, Lex Eisenhardt wrote
Bass lines may sometimes have been simplified, and thus some of
the problems could be avoided. Occasional voice crossings with the
bass perhaps were sometimes accepted (but probably not by everyone). L
But this isn't the problem at
But this isn't the problem at all! There's nothing wrong with
voice crossings per se, only if the voices involved form a fifth, which
would change into a (frowned upon) forth. I have yet to find one example
where this would happen with a theorbo ...
Cheers, Ralf Mattes
Crossings with the
So far no-one has told me where I can find the song in question.
Monica
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From: Lex Eisenhardt eisenha...@planet.nl
To: R. Mattes r...@mh-freiburg.de
Cc: Vihuelalist vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 7:51 PM
Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Caccini's
2011 19:51
To: R. Mattes
Cc: Vihuelalist
Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Caccini's instrument
But this isn't the problem at all! There's nothing wrong with
voice crossings per se, only if the voices involved form a fifth,
which
would change into a (frowned upon) forth. I have yet to find one
example
Thanks Stewart.
It is not that I can't believe that accompanists ever played notes above the
line of solo singers or solo instruments; but I rather doubt if Caccini
would have written bass lines which he could not play as they are, on his
own instrument. Therefore I tried to suggest that he
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From: Lex Eisenhardt eisenha...@planet.nl
To: Vihuela List vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu; Stewart McCoy
lu...@tiscali.co.uk
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 9:58 PM
Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Caccini's instrument
Thanks Stewart.
It is not that I can't believe that accompanists ever played notes above
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