Re: Extending Vim7 with plugins

2006-05-20 Thread Yakov Lerner
On 5/19/06, Meino Christian Cramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: IMHO the help files are only for those, who are know already, what they are searching for. A newbie gets hopelessly lost. Meino, The vim learning path is eaier for those who used "old vi". Those who used vi feel at home in vim. But

Re: Extending Vim7 with plugins

2006-05-19 Thread Steve Hall
On Sat, 2006-05-20 at 00:21 +0200, A.J.Mechelynck wrote: > Steve Hall wrote: > > > > My personal experience was starting with just these two pages: > > > > :help options.txt > > :help eval.txt > > the two largest, excluding those which merely list changes between > versions. Not easy to read from A

Re: Extending Vim7 with plugins

2006-05-19 Thread A.J.Mechelynck
Steve Hall wrote: From: Mikolaj Machowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, May 19, 2006 2:44 PM Dnia pi?tek, 19 maja 2006 19:07, Meino Christian Cramer napisa?: IMHO the help files are only for those, who are know already, what they are searching for. A newbie gets hopelessly lost. Not exac

Re: Extending Vim7 with plugins

2006-05-19 Thread Steve Hall
From: Mikolaj Machowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, May 19, 2006 2:44 PM > Dnia pi?tek, 19 maja 2006 19:07, Meino Christian Cramer napisa?: > > > > IMHO the help files are only for those, who are know already, what > > they are searching for. A newbie gets hopelessly lost. > > Not exactly. Newbie has to

Re: Extending Vim7 with plugins

2006-05-19 Thread Gerald Lai
On Fri, 19 May 2006, Meino Christian Cramer wrote: [snip] IMHO the help files are only for those, who are know already, what they are searching for. A newbie gets hopelessly lost. The help files are very extensive. Because of this, it has to cover each topic in a brief, accurate and concise wa

Re: Extending Vim7 with plugins

2006-05-19 Thread A.J.Mechelynck
Yakov Lerner wrote: On 5/19/06, Meino Christian Cramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am only wishing not to be urged to study electrotechnics before I will be able to change a light bulb. On the glass-full side, it looks like you learned already to operate the light switch. That's good. whahah

Re: Extending Vim7 with plugins

2006-05-19 Thread Yakov Lerner
On 5/19/06, Meino Christian Cramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am only wishing not to be urged to study electrotechnics before I will be able to change a light bulb. On the glass-full side, it looks like you learned already to operate the light switch. That's good. Are you asking now how many

Re: Extending Vim7 with plugins

2006-05-19 Thread A.J.Mechelynck
Meino Christian Cramer wrote: From: "Suresh Govindachar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Extending Vim7 with plugins Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 12:44:12 -0700 I am only wishing not to be urged to study electrotechnics before I will be able to change a light bulb. Nothing more, no

Re: Extending Vim7 with plugins

2006-05-19 Thread A.J.Mechelynck
Meino Christian Cramer wrote: From: Mikolaj Machowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Extending Vim7 with plugins Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 20:44:41 +0200 Dnia piątek, 19 maja 2006 19:07, Meino Christian Cramer napisał: IMHO the help files are only for those, who are know already

Re: Extending Vim7 with plugins

2006-05-19 Thread Meino Christian Cramer
From: "Suresh Govindachar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Extending Vim7 with plugins Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 12:44:12 -0700 I am only wishing not to be urged to study electrotechnics before I will be able to change a light bulb. Nothing more, nothing less. mcc >

Re: Extending Vim7 with plugins

2006-05-19 Thread Meino Christian Cramer
From: Mikolaj Machowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Extending Vim7 with plugins Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 20:44:41 +0200 > Dnia piątek, 19 maja 2006 19:07, Meino Christian Cramer napisał: > > > > IMHO the help files are only for those, who are know already, what > >

RE: Extending Vim7 with plugins

2006-05-19 Thread Suresh Govindachar
From: Meino Christian Cramer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 10:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; vim@vim.org Subject: Re: Extending Vim7 with plugins From: "Edward Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Extending Vim7 with plu

Re: Extending Vim7 with plugins

2006-05-19 Thread Mikolaj Machowski
Dnia piątek, 19 maja 2006 19:07, Meino Christian Cramer napisał: > > IMHO the help files are only for those, who are know already, what > they are searching for. A newbie gets hopelessly lost. Not exactly. Newbie has to read whole Users Manual from the beginning to the end. There is no way to ju

Re: Extending Vim7 with plugins

2006-05-19 Thread Robert Hicks
Yakov Lerner wrote: On 5/19/06, Robert Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is there some tutorial out there for a newbie starting with Vim7 to learn how to program for it? The "Write a Vim script" tutorial is bundled with vim. You only need to know how to open it in vim. Here is how: :he usr_4

Re: Extending Vim7 with plugins

2006-05-19 Thread Yakov Lerner
On 5/19/06, Robert Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is there some tutorial out there for a newbie starting with Vim7 to learn how to program for it? The "Write a Vim script" tutorial is bundled with vim. You only need to know how to open it in vim. Here is how: :he usr_41 vim will open docum

Re: Extending Vim7 with plugins

2006-05-19 Thread Meino Christian Cramer
From: "Edward Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Extending Vim7 with plugins Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 00:36:11 +0800 Hi HTH, Thanks for the applaus! :O) IMHO the help files are only for those, who are know already, what they are searching for. A newbie gets hopelessly los

Re: Extending Vim7 with plugins

2006-05-19 Thread A.J.Mechelynck
Robert Hicks wrote: Is there some tutorial out there for a newbie starting with Vim7 to learn how to program for it? Robert There is a "vim tutor" which comes with the Vim distribution. It's been so long since I used it that I don't remember what is and isn't included. Basically, each lin

Re: Extending Vim7 with plugins

2006-05-19 Thread Edward Wong
the keyword automatically. Pretty cool feature I found. HTH -- Ed On 5/19/06, Meino Christian Cramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: John Love-Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Extending Vim7 with plugins Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 10:37:32 -0500 > Hi Robert, > > > Is

Re: Extending Vim7 with plugins

2006-05-19 Thread Meino Christian Cramer
From: John Love-Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Extending Vim7 with plugins Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 10:37:32 -0500 > Hi Robert, > > > Is there some tutorial out there for a newbie starting with Vim7 to > > learn how to program for it? > > There's a

Re: Extending Vim7 with plugins

2006-05-19 Thread John Love-Jensen
Hi Robert, > Is there some tutorial out there for a newbie starting with Vim7 to > learn how to program for it? There's a general tutorial to get you started with Vim at: http://www.viemu.com/a_vi_vim_graphical_cheat_sheet_tutorial.html I don't think it covers any Vim 7.0 features. And I don't

Extending Vim7 with plugins

2006-05-19 Thread Robert Hicks
Is there some tutorial out there for a newbie starting with Vim7 to learn how to program for it? Robert