Re: Help non-functional in 7.0.90
scott wrote: On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 06:55 +0200, A.J.Mechelynck wrote: scott wrote: On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 05:58 +0200, A.J.Mechelynck wrote: scott wrote: On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 01:57 +0200, A.J.Mechelynck wrote: A.J.Mechelynck wrote: In (g)vim 7.0.90, when I try to invoke the help, let's say :help :help the program hangs; and when I finally hit Ctrl-C I get: E426: tag not found: :[EMAIL PROTECTED] Similarly for F1 E426: tag not found: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Running :helptags in the doc/ subdirectories of all 'rtp' directories doesn't help. Best regards, Tony. Cleaned my ~/.vim and $VIM/vimfiles from a few obsolete and dubious files, compiled 7.0.091 (with make reconfig), it works again (as src/vim). More fear than harm. Next thing is make install. Best regards, Tony. tony -- all this weirdness with your help -- as dependant as we are on whatever is insalled for 'ctags', i'd say you might spend some time looking at whatever shows up for 'which ctags' with a thought towards maybe fixing something there scott IIUC it's the version of ctags that came with SuSE 9.3 rpm -qa |grep ctags ctags-2004.11.15-3 which -a ctags /usr/bin/ctags ls -l `which ctags` -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 128852 Mar 19 2005 /usr/bin/ctags ctags --version Exuberant Ctags 5.5.4, Copyright (C) 1996-2003 Darren Hiebert Compiled: Mar 19 2005, 19:18:40 Addresses: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://ctags.sourceforge.net Optional compiled features: +wildcards, +regex The wierdness appeared after installing the manpageview plugin from vim-online, and disappeared after removing it as well as versions of the netrw and vimball plugins which had become older than the default ones due to a runtime rsync. Don't know what _any_ of those had to do with not finding the help; and (I checked) my doc/tags files were OK -- anyway, regenerating them all using (internal) helptags changed nothing. Best regards, Tony. hmmm what jumped out at me in your error messages was the '@en' -- makes me think whatever happened to you relates to something to do with the english language -- did manpageview have a lot of klunky language weirdness? sc I didn't check (and now it's gone thanks to rm -vf); but after recompiling (make reconfig but not make install) with (a) a define commented-out: /* # define FEAT_MULTI_LANG */ (b) an additional configure setting: export CONF_OPT_NLS='--disable-nls', and (c) renaming $VIMRUNTIME/lang to lanx (probably overkill but you never know...), I got the same error without the @en IIUC that @xx postfix is characteristic of multi-language help. My vimrc sets :language messages to C (on Unix) or en (on Windows) before sourcing the vimrc_example, to avoid French or Dutch menus and error messages regardless of the locale. Now I have undone all those changes, removed, as I said, the dubious plugins, re-made reconfig, and my 7.0.091 again shows any help with no noticeable lag. The only global plugins which I still have outside $VIMRUNTIME/plugin are matchit (runtime macros/matchit.vim) and a small plugin I wrote myself to display the splash screen (:intro) at the VimEnter event, even when Vim is started with one or more editfiles named on the command-line. Best regards, Tony. IIUC, your problem has been solved? no more goofy :help errors? Yes, as I mentioned earlier in this thread (at 01:57 +0200) removing doubtful plugins and making (reconfig) 7.0.091 made the problem disappear. (FYI, it is now 08:17 in the same time zone). Best regards, Tony.
Re: Help non-functional in 7.0.90
A.J.Mechelynck wrote: The wierdness appeared after installing the manpageview plugin from vim-online, and disappeared after removing it as well as versions of the netrw and vimball plugins which had become older than the default ones due to a runtime rsync. Don't know what _any_ of those had to do with not finding the help; and (I checked) my doc/tags files were OK -- anyway, regenerating them all using (internal) helptags changed nothing. Well, as I've mentioned, I have no problem with the :help command, and I certainly use manpageview all the time. Manpageview doesn't have any autocmds, so its not being invoked behind your back. The latest one defines five commands: Man [HORV]Man and a map for K. Regards, Chip Campbell
Re: Help non-functional in 7.0.90
Charles E Campbell Jr wrote: A.J.Mechelynck wrote: The wierdness appeared after installing the manpageview plugin from vim-online, and disappeared after removing it as well as versions of the netrw and vimball plugins which had become older than the default ones due to a runtime rsync. Don't know what _any_ of those had to do with not finding the help; and (I checked) my doc/tags files were OK -- anyway, regenerating them all using (internal) helptags changed nothing. Well, as I've mentioned, I have no problem with the :help command, and I certainly use manpageview all the time. Manpageview doesn't have any autocmds, so its not being invoked behind your back. The latest one defines five commands: Man [HORV]Man and a map for K. Regards, Chip Campbell All I can say is I'm puzzled. Bset regards, Tony.
Re: Re: Help non-functional in 7.0.90
On 06/09/06, Charles E Campbell Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A.J.Mechelynck wrote: In (g)vim 7.0.90, when I try to invoke the help, let's say :help :help the program hangs; and when I finally hit Ctrl-C I get: E426: tag not found: :[EMAIL PROTECTED] Similarly for F1 E426: tag not found: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Running :helptags in the doc/ subdirectories of all 'rtp' directories doesn't help. I tried both vim and gvim 7.0.90, and didn't have the problem you're having. ie. :help :help worked as expected. (using Fedora Core 5/linux). Works for me as well, on Mac OS X (Intel) Cheers Adam
Re: Help non-functional in 7.0.90
On Wed 6-Sep-06 8:01am -0600, A.J.Mechelynck wrote: In (g)vim 7.0.90, when I try to invoke the help, let's say :help :help the program hangs; and when I finally hit Ctrl-C I get: E426: tag not found: :[EMAIL PROTECTED] Similarly for F1 E426: tag not found: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Both work fine for (g)vim on WinXP from both my normal starting or from a pristine start (see below): vim -u NONE -i NONE -N --cmd se rtp=$VIMRUNTIME -- Best regards, Bill
Re: Help non-functional in 7.0.90
Charles E Campbell Jr wrote: A.J.Mechelynck wrote: In (g)vim 7.0.90, when I try to invoke the help, let's say :help :help the program hangs; and when I finally hit Ctrl-C I get: E426: tag not found: :[EMAIL PROTECTED] Similarly for F1 E426: tag not found: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Running :helptags in the doc/ subdirectories of all 'rtp' directories doesn't help. I tried both vim and gvim 7.0.90, and didn't have the problem you're having. ie. :help :help worked as expected. (using Fedora Core 5/linux). Regards, Chip Campbell Then I wonder what went wrong. I rebooted and still got it; recompiled (make reconfig) with --disable-nls (in configure) and -multi_lang (by commenting away #define FEAT_MULTI_LANG in feature.h) and still got it -- in both gvim and console vim. Best regards, Tony.
Re: Help non-functional in 7.0.90
A.J.Mechelynck wrote: In (g)vim 7.0.90, when I try to invoke the help, let's say :help :help the program hangs; and when I finally hit Ctrl-C I get: E426: tag not found: :[EMAIL PROTECTED] Similarly for F1 E426: tag not found: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Running :helptags in the doc/ subdirectories of all 'rtp' directories doesn't help. Best regards, Tony. Cleaned my ~/.vim and $VIM/vimfiles from a few obsolete and dubious files, compiled 7.0.091 (with make reconfig), it works again (as src/vim). More fear than harm. Next thing is make install. Best regards, Tony.
Re: Help non-functional in 7.0.90
On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 01:57 +0200, A.J.Mechelynck wrote: A.J.Mechelynck wrote: In (g)vim 7.0.90, when I try to invoke the help, let's say :help :help the program hangs; and when I finally hit Ctrl-C I get: E426: tag not found: :[EMAIL PROTECTED] Similarly for F1 E426: tag not found: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Running :helptags in the doc/ subdirectories of all 'rtp' directories doesn't help. Best regards, Tony. Cleaned my ~/.vim and $VIM/vimfiles from a few obsolete and dubious files, compiled 7.0.091 (with make reconfig), it works again (as src/vim). More fear than harm. Next thing is make install. Best regards, Tony. tony -- all this weirdness with your help -- as dependant as we are on whatever is insalled for 'ctags', i'd say you might spend some time looking at whatever shows up for 'which ctags' with a thought towards maybe fixing something there scott
Re: Help non-functional in 7.0.90
scott wrote: On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 01:57 +0200, A.J.Mechelynck wrote: A.J.Mechelynck wrote: In (g)vim 7.0.90, when I try to invoke the help, let's say :help :help the program hangs; and when I finally hit Ctrl-C I get: E426: tag not found: :[EMAIL PROTECTED] Similarly for F1 E426: tag not found: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Running :helptags in the doc/ subdirectories of all 'rtp' directories doesn't help. Best regards, Tony. Cleaned my ~/.vim and $VIM/vimfiles from a few obsolete and dubious files, compiled 7.0.091 (with make reconfig), it works again (as src/vim). More fear than harm. Next thing is make install. Best regards, Tony. tony -- all this weirdness with your help -- as dependant as we are on whatever is insalled for 'ctags', i'd say you might spend some time looking at whatever shows up for 'which ctags' with a thought towards maybe fixing something there scott IIUC it's the version of ctags that came with SuSE 9.3 rpm -qa |grep ctags ctags-2004.11.15-3 which -a ctags /usr/bin/ctags ls -l `which ctags` -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 128852 Mar 19 2005 /usr/bin/ctags ctags --version Exuberant Ctags 5.5.4, Copyright (C) 1996-2003 Darren Hiebert Compiled: Mar 19 2005, 19:18:40 Addresses: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://ctags.sourceforge.net Optional compiled features: +wildcards, +regex The wierdness appeared after installing the manpageview plugin from vim-online, and disappeared after removing it as well as versions of the netrw and vimball plugins which had become older than the default ones due to a runtime rsync. Don't know what _any_ of those had to do with not finding the help; and (I checked) my doc/tags files were OK -- anyway, regenerating them all using (internal) helptags changed nothing. Best regards, Tony.
Re: Help non-functional in 7.0.90
On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 05:58 +0200, A.J.Mechelynck wrote: scott wrote: On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 01:57 +0200, A.J.Mechelynck wrote: A.J.Mechelynck wrote: In (g)vim 7.0.90, when I try to invoke the help, let's say :help :help the program hangs; and when I finally hit Ctrl-C I get: E426: tag not found: :[EMAIL PROTECTED] Similarly for F1 E426: tag not found: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Running :helptags in the doc/ subdirectories of all 'rtp' directories doesn't help. Best regards, Tony. Cleaned my ~/.vim and $VIM/vimfiles from a few obsolete and dubious files, compiled 7.0.091 (with make reconfig), it works again (as src/vim). More fear than harm. Next thing is make install. Best regards, Tony. tony -- all this weirdness with your help -- as dependant as we are on whatever is insalled for 'ctags', i'd say you might spend some time looking at whatever shows up for 'which ctags' with a thought towards maybe fixing something there scott IIUC it's the version of ctags that came with SuSE 9.3 rpm -qa |grep ctags ctags-2004.11.15-3 which -a ctags /usr/bin/ctags ls -l `which ctags` -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 128852 Mar 19 2005 /usr/bin/ctags ctags --version Exuberant Ctags 5.5.4, Copyright (C) 1996-2003 Darren Hiebert Compiled: Mar 19 2005, 19:18:40 Addresses: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://ctags.sourceforge.net Optional compiled features: +wildcards, +regex The wierdness appeared after installing the manpageview plugin from vim-online, and disappeared after removing it as well as versions of the netrw and vimball plugins which had become older than the default ones due to a runtime rsync. Don't know what _any_ of those had to do with not finding the help; and (I checked) my doc/tags files were OK -- anyway, regenerating them all using (internal) helptags changed nothing. Best regards, Tony. hmmm what jumped out at me in your error messages was the '@en' -- makes me think whatever happened to you relates to something to do with the english language -- did manpageview have a lot of klunky language weirdness? sc
Re: Help non-functional in 7.0.90
On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 06:55 +0200, A.J.Mechelynck wrote: scott wrote: On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 05:58 +0200, A.J.Mechelynck wrote: scott wrote: On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 01:57 +0200, A.J.Mechelynck wrote: A.J.Mechelynck wrote: In (g)vim 7.0.90, when I try to invoke the help, let's say :help :help the program hangs; and when I finally hit Ctrl-C I get: E426: tag not found: :[EMAIL PROTECTED] Similarly for F1 E426: tag not found: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Running :helptags in the doc/ subdirectories of all 'rtp' directories doesn't help. Best regards, Tony. Cleaned my ~/.vim and $VIM/vimfiles from a few obsolete and dubious files, compiled 7.0.091 (with make reconfig), it works again (as src/vim). More fear than harm. Next thing is make install. Best regards, Tony. tony -- all this weirdness with your help -- as dependant as we are on whatever is insalled for 'ctags', i'd say you might spend some time looking at whatever shows up for 'which ctags' with a thought towards maybe fixing something there scott IIUC it's the version of ctags that came with SuSE 9.3 rpm -qa |grep ctags ctags-2004.11.15-3 which -a ctags /usr/bin/ctags ls -l `which ctags` -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 128852 Mar 19 2005 /usr/bin/ctags ctags --version Exuberant Ctags 5.5.4, Copyright (C) 1996-2003 Darren Hiebert Compiled: Mar 19 2005, 19:18:40 Addresses: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://ctags.sourceforge.net Optional compiled features: +wildcards, +regex The wierdness appeared after installing the manpageview plugin from vim-online, and disappeared after removing it as well as versions of the netrw and vimball plugins which had become older than the default ones due to a runtime rsync. Don't know what _any_ of those had to do with not finding the help; and (I checked) my doc/tags files were OK -- anyway, regenerating them all using (internal) helptags changed nothing. Best regards, Tony. hmmm what jumped out at me in your error messages was the '@en' -- makes me think whatever happened to you relates to something to do with the english language -- did manpageview have a lot of klunky language weirdness? sc I didn't check (and now it's gone thanks to rm -vf); but after recompiling (make reconfig but not make install) with (a) a define commented-out: /* # define FEAT_MULTI_LANG */ (b) an additional configure setting: export CONF_OPT_NLS='--disable-nls', and (c) renaming $VIMRUNTIME/lang to lanx (probably overkill but you never know...), I got the same error without the @en IIUC that @xx postfix is characteristic of multi-language help. My vimrc sets :language messages to C (on Unix) or en (on Windows) before sourcing the vimrc_example, to avoid French or Dutch menus and error messages regardless of the locale. Now I have undone all those changes, removed, as I said, the dubious plugins, re-made reconfig, and my 7.0.091 again shows any help with no noticeable lag. The only global plugins which I still have outside $VIMRUNTIME/plugin are matchit (runtime macros/matchit.vim) and a small plugin I wrote myself to display the splash screen (:intro) at the VimEnter event, even when Vim is started with one or more editfiles named on the command-line. Best regards, Tony. IIUC, your problem has been solved? no more goofy :help errors?
