Re: What OS Should my Macintosh SE run?

[superstar64]

I'm not sure if I'M reading this wrong, but I don't think everyone's 
getting what I said. Early System 7 is basically anything before System 
7.1, which came on later 68040 machines or so. I think System 6 is the 
sweet spot for the SE and some other late 68000 machines.

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Re: What OS Should my Macintosh SE run?

[Scott Holmes]

On Wednesday, 16 May 2018 20:42:44 UTC+10, superstar64 wrote:
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> It's not necessarily just an SE thing. I wouldn't recommend anything later 
> than early System 7 on any 68000 Macintosh... 
>

Yes: I've run 7.0.1 on my Mac Portable (68000, but Mac SE clock speed x 2) 
for over 25 years.  For the Mac Portable, 7.0.1 has always been a "sweet 
spot".  System 7.1 slows it down too much and 6.0.8 is nice, but I miss 
some utilities and apps that don't work under System 6.  There were a few 
little hacks to turn off some of the more resource intensive features of 
System 7 and make the user interface a bit quicker too.  Disabling 
"ZoomRects" rings a bell, but it's been a long time since I "tuned" that 
system and I'm very happy with the way it runs now. 

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Re: What OS Should my Macintosh SE run?

[Jeff Ramsey]

On Wednesday, May 16, 2018 at 3:42:44 AM UTC-7, superstar64 wrote:
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> It's not necessarily just an SE thing. I wouldn't recommend anything later 
> than early System 7 on any 68000 Macintosh... 
>
> ...And yes, that does include the classic.
>

I am running System 7.0.1 on my SE. I don't find it laggy really, and I 
like having the software compatibility that System 7 brings. I will say 
that I think you need to have a decent hard drive and all 4MB of RAM to run 
System 7 on an SE. It was very laggy when I only had 2MB... 

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Re: What OS Should my Macintosh SE run?

[superstar64]

It's not necessarily just an SE thing. I wouldn't recommend anything later 
than early System 7 on any 68000 Macintosh... 

...And yes, that does include the classic.

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Re: What OS Should my Macintosh SE run?

[Scott Holmes]

I agre with superstar64.  System 6.0.7 (or 6.0.8) would be a sweet spot for 
a Mac SE.  Pretty stable and nice snappy performance.  System 7.0.1 would 
work well, but is a bit "laggy" on the SE.

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Re: What OS Should my Macintosh SE run?

[superstar64]

I would recommend System 6 or so and maybe System 7, but I wouldn't 
recommend anything higher than that, seeing as later System 7 versions look 
more aged on a B screen rather than a colored screen where it actually 
looks decent. also System 7 is probably pushing the 68000 chip farther than 
where it's limits should be.

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Re: What OS Should my Macintosh SE run?

[Dylan McDermond]

> On Oct 9, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Aoresteen  wrote:
> 
> True.  I'd try re soldering the fly-back transformer & power connectors.
> 
> Might as well plan on a re-cap of the logic board as well.

Those suggestions are just shooting arrows in the dark.

The flyback would not cause vertical lines. The logic board has axial caps and 
isn’t really prone to simasimac from bad caps. The power supply may be suspect. 
I’d reseat the RAM modules and check voltages (mostly the +5V). If you can’t 
adjust the +5V properly, look at recapping the power supply.

- Dylan

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Re: What OS Should my Macintosh SE run?

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True.  I'd try re soldering the fly-back transformer & power connectors.

Might as well plan on a re-cap of the logic board as well.



On Sunday, October 8, 2017 at 12:47:28 AM UTC-4, Chris Hanson wrote:
>
> It’s very likely an analog board issue, rather than an issue of software 
> or the hard disk.
>
> What exactly does the vertical stripe effect look like?
>
>   -- Chris
>
> On Oct 7, 2017, at 7:11 PM, Sam Taber  
> wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> I recently obtained a Macintosh SE for 10 dollars, and i am getting a 
> vertical stripe effect on the monitor. I do not know if this is a hard 
> drive failure, but I assume that is the problem.
>
> I wanted to know, if I could find what system software my Macintosh SE 
> Model 5011.
>
> Thanks!
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Re: What OS Should my Macintosh SE run?

[Chris Hanson]

It’s very likely an analog board issue, rather than an issue of software or the 
hard disk.

What exactly does the vertical stripe effect look like?

  -- Chris

> On Oct 7, 2017, at 7:11 PM, Sam Taber  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I recently obtained a Macintosh SE for 10 dollars, and i am getting a 
> vertical stripe effect on the monitor. I do not know if this is a hard drive 
> failure, but I assume that is the problem.
> 
> I wanted to know, if I could find what system software my Macintosh SE Model 
> 5011.
> 
> Thanks!
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Re: What OS Should my Macintosh SE run?

[Dylan McDermond]

> On Oct 7, 2017, at 7:11 PM, Sam Taber
> 
> I recently obtained a Macintosh SE for 10 dollars, and i am getting a 
> vertical stripe effect on the monitor. 

Probably not a hard drive issue. That’s more akin to a memory issue. Try 
opening it up and reseating the RAM SIMMs before anything else.

- Dylan

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