Re: IIsi questions

2004-05-05 Thread Mark Benson
On May 5, 2004, at 10:42 pm, Clark Martin wrote: At 6:40 PM +0100 5/5/04, Mark Benson wrote: I'll admit there is something mystically wonderful about a Plus with 4MB RAM running System 6. It's like the two were made for each other. I suppose they were in a way, but still, the same close connectio

OT: Olde PC internet Re: IIsi questions

2004-05-05 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- "J.S. Garrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 5/5/04 1:17 PM, Powermac at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > You cant use Windows 3.1 with tcp/ip add-on to do > email? > > > NOT on a 386. I have a 486 that does it on 8MB of > RAM and I.E. 3. *ahem* Windows 3.1 will run on a 286, in Standard M

Re: IIsi questions

2004-05-05 Thread Bob C.
Ah, this is getting terribly off-topic, but I just have to say that my Compaq 386/25MHz with 10MB of RAM has Windows 3.1 on it, and connects to the Internet just fine for browsing and email. However, my on-topic comment is that I still get a huge KICK out of using my venerable Mac Plus with System

Re: IIsi questions

2004-05-05 Thread Nathan Raymond
On Wed, 5 May 2004, Clark Martin wrote: > Not even close, the Mac Plus originally shipped with OS 3.0 IIRC. OS > 6 was much later. The IIsi shipped with OS 6.0.7. The Plus shipped with System 3.2 if my memory serves, and the IIsi initially had 6.0.6 but Apple hastily came out with 6.0.7 to fix

Re: IIsi questions

2004-05-05 Thread Powermac
- Original Message - From: "J.S. Garrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Vintage Macs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 9:48 PM Subject: Re: IIsi questions > on 5/5/04 1:17 PM, Powermac at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Michael" <[

Re: IIsi questions

2004-05-05 Thread Terry Mathews
Jeff Walther wrote: The other issue would be finding the dual ported RAM chips, but I bet that could be done with some looking around. SGRAM is dual-ported. Terry Mathews -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To W

Re: IIsi questions

2004-05-05 Thread J.S. Garrison
on 5/5/04 1:17 PM, Powermac at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Vintage Macs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 3:55 PM > Subject: Re: IIsi questions > > >> on 05/05/2004 10:40 AM, Mark Benson at [EMAIL PROT

Re: IIsi questions

2004-05-05 Thread Clark Martin
At 6:40 PM +0100 5/5/04, Mark Benson wrote: I'll admit there is something mystically wonderful about a Plus with 4MB RAM running System 6. It's like the two were made for each other. I suppose they were in a way, but still, the same close connection between Mac and OS was lost from System 7 onwa

Re: IIsi questions

2004-05-05 Thread Mark Benson
On May 5, 2004, at 07:32 pm, J.S. Garrison wrote: You mean GUI or Command-Line? I have a RedHat 5.1 I should give it a go. As long as it's the i386 distro, and you have a card supported by XFree86 you sould be able to muster a GUI, probably KDE if it's Red Hat. Meanwhile, I'll still delight in e

Re: IIsi questions

2004-05-05 Thread Jeff Walther
Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 12:59:19 +1000 From: Darren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Agreed, its amazing what you can do with 20mb, its a shame about the ram in the fx, 1990-1992 was the option for 72 pin far off or did apple have a corner of the 64-pin market? ;) The 64 pin SIMMs appear to have separate Data-I

Re: IIsi questions

2004-05-05 Thread Michael
on 05/05/2004 11:32 AM, J.S. Garrison at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > on 5/5/04 10:40 AM, Mark Benson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> >> On May 4, 2004, at 05:50 pm, J.S. Garrison wrote: >> >>> Be THAT as it may, I can't get a 386/40 to email. >> >> *cough* Linux. > > Meanwhile, I'll still de

Re: IIsi questions

2004-05-05 Thread Powermac
- Original Message - From: "Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Vintage Macs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 3:55 PM Subject: Re: IIsi questions > on 05/05/2004 10:40 AM, Mark Benson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > On May 4, 2004, at 05:50 pm, J.S. Garrison wrote:

Re: IIsi questions

2004-05-05 Thread Michael
on 05/05/2004 10:40 AM, Mark Benson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On May 4, 2004, at 05:50 pm, J.S. Garrison wrote: > >> Be THAT as it may, I can't get a 386/40 to email. > > *cough* Linux. Oh come on, that's cheating when you have resort to using an after market OS on a PC. :^) Mich

Re: email on vintage computers (was: IIsi questions)

2004-05-05 Thread Norbert van Bemmel
>Meanwhile, I'll still delight in emailing with a >machine that uses only two floppies in two drives, >internal and external, along with an external modem. > >There's something that's socounter-technology >about it as to nearly be too cool for words. It's not counter-technology! It's a clever

Re: IIsi questions

2004-05-05 Thread J.S. Garrison
on 5/5/04 10:40 AM, Mark Benson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On May 4, 2004, at 05:50 pm, J.S. Garrison wrote: > >> Be THAT as it may, I can't get a 386/40 to email. > > *cough* Linux. You mean GUI or Command-Line? I have a RedHat 5.1 I should give it a go. Meanwhile, I'll still delight i

Re: IIsi questions

2004-05-05 Thread Mark Benson
On May 4, 2004, at 05:50 pm, J.S. Garrison wrote: Be THAT as it may, I can't get a 386/40 to email. *cough* Linux. The RAM is sparse in the Plus but the machine and it's GUI tend to show a simple superiority for that era that earned my respect through the ages. I'll admit there is something mysti

Re: OT: RAM Re: IIsi questions

2004-05-05 Thread Clark Martin
At 12:21 AM -0700 5/5/04, Gregg Eshelman wrote: --- Darren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The memory being an industry standard for its time also helps. I have need of a 16-32mb 72-pin SOdimm, keyway on the side of the pins rather than between them. I found a 16mb only to find it incompatible.

Re: OT: RAM Re: IIsi questions

2004-05-05 Thread Darren
Gregg Eshelman wrote: In 168 pin DIMMs you have 5 volt FPM, 5 and 3.3 volt EDO and 3.3 volt SDRAM. There may be other configurations. The 5 volt FPM and EDO have the same notch configuration, but they're definitely not the same as any 3.3 volt, and the 3.3 volt EDO and SDRAM have unique notches. Pr

Re: Mac IIci

2004-05-05 Thread Michael
on 05/04/2004 01:17 PM, Marta Edmonds at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Or could it simply need to be > cleaned? I am hoping to find some answers to these questions before I go out > and spend a fortune on a new floppy drive if I don't even need one. Yes it needs to be taken out, removed from the

OT: RAM Re: IIsi questions

2004-05-05 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Darren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The memory being an industry standard for its time > also helps. I have > need of a 16-32mb 72-pin SOdimm, keyway on the > side of the pins > rather than between them. I found a 16mb only to > find it incompatible. > The joys of oddball configurations.