RE: Braille commands for deleting app

2016-11-18 Thread Todd Patkus
Chris, That does not answer. I asked you where you got the "custom" thing! I understand about double tap = chord 36, but what about dot and key command??? Be more specific. Thank you. Todd -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf

Re: Braille commands for deleting app

2016-11-18 Thread christopher hallsworth
Todd, what I mean is, perform the equivalent dot or key command to simulate a one finger swipe up or down. Same when I talked about the double tap; you perform the equivalent dot or key command to simulate this gesture. > On 19 Nov 2016, at 07:45, Todd Patkus wrote: > > Chris, > > Remember I a

RE: Braille commands for deleting app

2016-11-18 Thread Todd Patkus
Chris, Remember I am deafblind. I am a strong Braille user! Swiping does not do much. Where are you getting all these stuff? I got just one message, not twice, from you. Todd -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of christopher

Re: Braille commands for deleting app

2016-11-18 Thread christopher hallsworth
WHat the hell? I just got my own message *twice*. Lol! Have you? > On 19 Nov 2016, at 07:36, christopher hallsworth > wrote: > > Hi > > Do you all know you can now delete apps using the new custom action on the > home screen? If not, check it out. Using your Braille display, you would > perfo

Re: Braille commands for deleting app

2016-11-18 Thread christopher hallsworth
Hi Do you all know you can now delete apps using the new custom action on the home screen? If not, check it out. Using your Braille display, you would perform the key command to swipe up or down until you see "arrange apps" and perform another key command to double tap. You can then delete apps

RE: Braille commands for deleting app

2016-11-18 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Try whatever you do to open an app. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Todd Patkus Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 10:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Braille commands for deleting app Sieghard, Yes, hopefully

Re: Braille commands for deleting app

2016-11-18 Thread Eden
Exactly once only. There is also a command for double tap and hold which seems to only work sporadically. Simply double tapping is space with dots 3 and 6. For a double table and hold it's space dots 3 and 6 plus 7 and 8 which are your backspace and enter keys. Now that command does not always w

RE: Braille commands for deleting app

2016-11-18 Thread Todd Patkus
Eden, Are you saying "double tap" = chord dots 36 pressed once? Todd -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eden Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 12:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Braille commands for deleting a

Re: Braille commands for deleting app

2016-11-18 Thread Eden
Todd he means hit space and dots 3 and 6. Or you could also hit a cursor routing button above the item you wish to select. I hope this helps. Eden - Original Message - From: Todd Patkus To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, November 18, 2016 10:27 pm Subject: RE: Braille commands

RE: Braille commands for deleting app

2016-11-18 Thread Todd Patkus
Sieghard, Both the U2 and the iPhone are completely muted. So is my PC completely muted. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 12:31 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE:

Re: Getting an image only PDF into KN FB reader

2016-11-18 Thread Kathy Brandt
Interesting. I had a message tonight with an image in which no text was found. When I double tap and hold on that image, I get the options of save and copy. I double tapped on save, which put it in Photos. In K NFB reader I then went to add picture from library, found photos, and did a reprocess

RE: Braille commands for deleting app

2016-11-18 Thread Todd Patkus
Sieghard, Yes, hopefully one will pop up on the list with a better definition of the equivalent command for the Braille display. By the way, if I wanted to open an app, I either press on the cursor router more to the left of the display or chord dots 36, which is the same as enter. If I want t

RE: Braille commands for deleting app

2016-11-18 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Yes, but what do you do when you open an app or activate a button or link on your iPhone? That is why I wrote you should try whatever braille command you use to simulate a double tap. Sorry, I don't own a braille display or I would tell you, but I'm sure there is an equivalent command for a doub

RE: Braille commands for deleting app

2016-11-18 Thread Todd Patkus
Hello, Sieghard, When one says "double tap", it usually means to touch the screen, not the Braille keyboard. That is how I understand. Todd -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, November 19, 20

RE: Braille commands for deleting app

2016-11-18 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Todd, You wrote that you can see " arranging apps then activate". If you can get to "Activate" on your braille display you should just have to do whatever the braille keyboard command is for a double tap and it should ask then if you want to delete the app. -Original Message- From:

Re: looking at adding an IPad

2016-11-18 Thread 'ray t. mahorney' via VIPhone
well I’ll be adding the thing in January and I will have more to say about it then. On that, what’s the base storage for the current generation of IPads? From: Mary Otten Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 00:32 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: looking at adding an IPad You know, I'm n

Re: looking at adding an IPad

2016-11-18 Thread Mary Otten
You know, I'm not sure. I had mine off, I'm not sure how or why that happened. But I was at an Apple Store trying to solve a problem with a dead iPhone and needed to get the code for my Apple ID for two factor verification. So they had to put my iPad mini on the Wi-Fi network and then the guy di

RE: Braille commands for deleting app

2016-11-18 Thread Todd Patkus
Scot, Who do you yourself are? Quit hollering at me. I do not need you to yell at me like this. Your behavior is unacceptable. You yourself are very childish! You have no right to yell at anyone here. You also need to learn to be more friendly and more understanding! To all, please do not

Re: looking at adding an IPad

2016-11-18 Thread 'ray t. mahorney' via VIPhone
does that fall under handoff? By the way you may have just explained something else to me. When I was getting ready to dump an IPhone 5, I had already put the 6 plus on the network and provisioned it including enabling wifi calling. At some point, both phones rang and I was able to answer with

Re: looking at adding an IPad

2016-11-18 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Ray, enable Wi-Fi calling for your phone if it isn't already. Then make sure your iPad and your phone or on the same Wi-Fi network. And I think that should do it for you. You can also enable iMessage on your iPad so that you can get text messages or at least iMessages, I don't know about non-

looking at adding an IPad

2016-11-18 Thread 'ray t. mahorney' via VIPhone
When I do this what do I need to set up to enable the IPad to handle calls and texts through my primary mobile number? Did I phrase that correctly? Ray T. Mahorney WA4WGA -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about

Re: Braille commands for deleting app

2016-11-18 Thread Dani Pagador
I don't have IOS10, so can't help further. Sorry about that. Hoping someone who has the IOS can help. More Later, Dani On 11/18/16, dollar...@gmail.com wrote: > Tedd, I am going to have to disagree with you. I have no problems to > delete app of my iphone. But, please stop critized on Aple.

DirecTV accessibility via the iPhone?

2016-11-18 Thread Mary Otten
I never thought I would say this, but we might be looking into getting direct TV. This is because I just saw what our Comcast bill will be, once our contract ends next month. The word unacceptable doesn't even start to cover it. Anyway, I see there is an app for DirecTV, and it seems like the ap

Re: Braille commands for deleting app

2016-11-18 Thread dollar031
Tedd, I am going to have to disagree with you. I have no problems to delete app of my iphone. But, please stop critized on Aple. I am in the agreement with Dani. You need to learn the new way as learning curve for the fact. Scott Dollar Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 18, 2016, at 9:08 PM

RE: Braille commands for deleting app

2016-11-18 Thread Todd Patkus
Dani, When I tried it, pressing dot 6, it said arranging apps then activate. That is all I can see! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dani Pagador Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 9:16 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject

Re: Braille commands for deleting app

2016-11-18 Thread Dani Pagador
Whew. Then I guess I'm glad I didn't update to IOS10. I'm using IOS9 and can delete apps fine. My speaker didn't recover very much from its lemon bar making experience--my volume is terribly decreased, so I'm having to struggle to hear when I don't have a h eadset plugged in. I can get access to t

RE: Braille commands for deleting app

2016-11-18 Thread Todd Patkus
Dani, Actually, there is really no way to do that! Apple Inc. lacks this in a large way! How can person who is profoundly deaf and totally blind see what the screen is showing or see where to find on the screen! Think about it. Todd -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com

Re: Braille commands for deleting app

2016-11-18 Thread Dani Pagador
Todd, You have a Braille display from Hims--I see your mail on theHims Notetaker list. I have a BrailleEdge. The process for deleting apps should be similar You can't do it just using the keyboard on the Braille display. You've got to use a combination of the keyboard and VO gestures. But there sh

Braille commands for deleting app

2016-11-18 Thread Todd Patkus
To all: At this time, I know there is no way for a strong Braille user to delete apps from his iOS. No problem for hearing-blind who are speech users. That is not fair. We Braille users have every right just as the blind do. Who may be able to tell me how to kill (delete) any unwanted

change in internet providers

2016-11-18 Thread 'simon w' via VIPhone
Hi sometime next month I will be changing internet providers, which means I will probably not have access to my emails unless I am out, just thought I would let everyone know, thanks and have a good weekend everyone! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list

RE: Home in iOS 10.1.1

2016-11-18 Thread Todd Patkus
Hello, Helga, First, my name is spelled T o d d (double d), not T o d (one d), which means death in German! Helga, next time, please spell it Todd, not Tod. Thank you. Note this applies to all those who are speech-only users. Todd From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@go

Re: Getting an image only PDF into KN FB reader

2016-11-18 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Kathy, I tried to double tap and hold on where it says the name of the document, and all I get is preview. It seems to be a four-page picture document. If I double tap and hold on the image itself, one of the pages that is, I get a menu that has things like copy or select all. But I'm not sur

Re: Home in iOS 10.1.1

2016-11-18 Thread Helga Schreiber
Hi Tod and all! How ar eyou all? Hey Todd, I actualy use the Voice memos app in order to record and so n. and actually my boyfriend hwo i s deafblidn uses it as well to record! And yes, I agree that there are a lot of bugs in software, but one should not complain about them; instead, one sh

Re: Home in iOS 10.1.1

2016-11-18 Thread Helga Schreiber
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RE: Home in iOS 10.1.1

2016-11-18 Thread Todd Patkus
Ed, Please do not say that. I already told you I am NOT! That is it, period. Be silent! From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Ed Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:26 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Home in iOS 10.1.1 Hi Todd,

RE: Home in iOS 10.1.1

2016-11-18 Thread Mr. Ed
Hi Todd, No you are opinionated. You are just looking at it from your point of view. For example you stated the voice memo app is no good for you That might be true in your case but people who can hear might want to use this app and I am guessing a lot of them do. So if you do not use the app

Re: Getting an image only PDF into KN FB reader

2016-11-18 Thread Kathy Brandt
Did you try to double tap and hold on the image? > On Nov 18, 2016, at 4:49 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > > Usually, if I get an email attachment that is a PDF, I get choices like where > I want to open it, such as voice dream reader or whatever. But I just got one > from my doctor. It is an image o

RE: Home in iOS 10.1.1

2016-11-18 Thread Todd Patkus
Rajmund, Whatever. What is written is what is written! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rajmund Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 3:32 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Home in iOS 10.1.1 Hi Todd, Well said. Some

RE: Home in iOS 10.1.1

2016-11-18 Thread Todd Patkus
John, It is so easy for you to say what you said below. The statement I made stands to be correct. Yes, Apple Inc. fails to do more thorough diagnoses on their updates! I am sure Rich will tell you something. No need to remind me about opinions. I am not opinionated; I am making

Getting an image only PDF into KN FB reader

2016-11-18 Thread Mary Otten
Usually, if I get an email attachment that is a PDF, I get choices like where I want to open it, such as voice dream reader or whatever. But I just got one from my doctor. It is an image only, and I'm not getting any choices. I would like to open it in KN FB to see how it might OCR. But I don't

Re: Home in iOS 10.1.1

2016-11-18 Thread Rajmund
Hi Todd, Well said. Sometimes, rather than new features, bugs should be fixed. Sent from a Braille Sense - Original Message - From: Todd Patkus To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, November 18, 2016 9:23 pm Subject: RE: Home in iOS 10.1.1 > > > Sieghard, > > The app store,

Re: Home in iOS 10.1.1

2016-11-18 Thread John Panarese
Remember. You are expressing your opinion. It is the opinion of one person. It is not universal. What you consider to be important apps or unimportant apps is not shared among everyone. I agree with you on things like Stocks and Voice Memos, but I know others who would not agree with that. So

RE: Home in iOS 10.1.1

2016-11-18 Thread Todd Patkus
Sieghard, The app store, iTunes store, Phone, Mail, and settings are the ones that I consider to remain. I did not say ALL should be "non-native" but those apps that are absolutely useless, such as voice memos, stocks, should never be native but non-native. That is where I stand for. It is s

RE: Home in iOS 10.1.1

2016-11-18 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Todd, The good news is that as of iOS 10 you can in fact delete native apps such as Mail, Voice Memos, Stocks, Calculator and so on. There are still some which are essentials to the operation of the phone which can't be deleted and that of course makes sense. These are apps like the App Stor

RE: Home in iOS 10.1.1

2016-11-18 Thread Todd Patkus
Hello there, Sieghard, I have a Braille Sense U2 Mini, so I would have to find the correct commands for that. As for that app Home, it is totally useless to me, and I have no need for it. So I would have kicked that goofy (smile) app out for good. The only thing I abhor about Apple is that th

RE: Home in iOS 10.1.1

2016-11-18 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Todd, Apple has come up with a standard for home automation devices. These are things like connected thermostats, lights like the Philipps Hue, door locks, automated sprinkler control systems, cameras, devices to open and close curtains or blinds and so on. If you have any such devices and t

navigating album list in itunes

2016-11-18 Thread Larry Lumpkin
Does anyone know how to navigate the album list (which shows as a grid) in jaws. Is there any way to navigate to the top or bottom of the list or whatever it is or to page up and down through it. I sure hope apple fixes itunes someday. The interface is awful. -- The following information is