Re: They Want To See My Phone And I can Not Say No, What Should I Do?

Try setting up Touch ID and a passcode Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 18, 2015, at 12:40 PM, Craig Werner wrote: > > Fazil, I have been thinking about your problem ever since I posted > yesterday. It occurs to me that perhaps we are not dealing with a > cultural concern

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Yes, I have no trouble saying no, but I do it gently and courteously at first. However, I understand where that might not be possible in different cultures. I'm not sure what the best approach would be in this situation. I tried to think about it last night. -Original Message- From:

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Fazil, I have been thinking about your problem ever since I posted yesterday. It occurs to me that perhaps we are not dealing with a cultural concern as much as you might think. Is there really a cultural expectation about showing a phone? That is, have cultural norms and expectations been

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Thank you very much everybody, I got great ideas and I am sure I can protect myself now more effectively. Thanks again everyone, you guys are great! And I love you all! Fazil. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of RobH. Sent:

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feels like an attitude towards the blind where offending those on whom they could depend, could have serious repercussions. Defending a position from one of lesser rights is never an easy one. Since this is drifting OT, we should stick to the suggestions of How, and leave Why out of it. All

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Well then I really don't think culture has anything to do with it. My culture tries to dictate what I should Do, but in this day and age, you don't need to be dictated too. My culture's quite strict, but if I put boundaries there, no one has that right to overstep them. People make too much of

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Well who started this culture thing anyway. It's all very well saying that, but it was being discussed. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of RobH. Sent: Wednesday, 18 November 2015 9:26 p.m. To: viphone@googlegroups.com

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I entirely agree with you on this. I raise it as some response are from cultures that are a lot more lax about etiquet and manners. Culterual difference exists and effects these things. All the technical advice so far, has been good and workable afaik. Rh. - Original Message - From:

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This is a cultural thing. "No!" could be a great and damning breechof etiquet. - Original Message - From: "Larry Lumpkin" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 10:36 PM Subject: RE: They Want To See My Phone And I can Not Say No, What

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All of those things plus the fingerprint scanner being enabled should work just fine. Voiceover will irritate them eventually, and you can tell them you don't know how to disable it. I would say to set clear boundaries, but I understand how that's more complicated than it sounds. Good luck.

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It’s not that simple. As they explained , it’s a cultural thing. Ideally, saying no would be the best option, but due to the cultural complications, things like dimming the screen, leaving VO on or perhaps enabling guided access or turning on one of those restrictive settings to make the user

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I wouldn't let anybody play with my phone, unless I really knew them well. They could just steal it. Even then I think the screen curtain idea is a pretty good one. If you're worried about them using the phone to make a call or something, you could put the phone in airplane mode. That way no

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Add a passcode. Paul From: Fazil Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 12:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: They Want To See My Phone And I can Not Say No, What Should I Do? Hi, list. I have IPhone6Plus with IOS9.02. In Indian Culture it is ok to ask you to show me your phone if you

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Just stay close and leave VO on so you can hear what they're doing, and this way they won't be able to use it correctly because of VO's different gesture system, now that's an idea! Keep them thinking that it's a blind iphone! El 17/11/2015 11:21 a.m., Fazil escribió: Hi, list. I have

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well, there are a number of means you can use to secure your phone. SOme have already been suggested in this thread. I would have to do more digging, but using screen curtain, along with a screen lock passcode would certainly be a good deterrent to those nosy family members. also, consider

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what is it that they want to do with your phone? Do they just want to hold it? Just make sure that your phone is locked with a passcode and thumb print. Lock the phone before you hand it over. If the phone is locked with a pass code and voice Over is on, they should hand it right back to you.

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If I recall, I thought a sighted person told me they could see how to turn screen curtin off? _ From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pete Nalda Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 1:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: They Want To See

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With that high speech-rate how can I bring the rate lower as I won’t be able to understand what VO is saying? Thanks! From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of rajmund Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 1:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re:

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Hi Fazil, In my experience, even just having Voiceover on makes the phone fairly difficult to use for a sighted person, since the Voiceover gestures are very different from the way a sighted person would normally interact with a touch screen device. So if you then had screen curtain on, the

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Yes, and when you hand it to them, do as someone else has already said, It's for blind people. I don't know if it will work for you." -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 1:14 PM To:

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Well take this one. Nobody, but nobody, gets six inches near my phone. You have to be strict on that one, because if they didn't pay for your phone, then that's a lot of money for them to maybe change settings to satisfy themselves. The word No! should cut it. I think people have just about

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@Fazil Well, I would recommend you to do as many of the people said here: use passcode, or thumlock, or bowth. But, as I my self come from similar culture, I don't understand why you can't set some rules what they can, and what they cannot do with your phone. I do have nosy people around me, and

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turn your screen brightness down to zero. turn on voiceover, put on your screen curtain, and if you haven't set a pass code, then set one, but don't tell them. When they ask to see your phone, try and unlock it, without them seeing you have a pass code, and when they have taken a look, put it

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a couple of things i forgot, that also might help. besides the stuff, i said in my last post, speed up your voiceover, and if you have any private messages, you wouldn't want them to see, you could copy and paste them into a notes application, then delete the original SMS message. Dave.

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Hello, Here, 100% speech rate, curtain on, but no password. This is an iPad, though. Sent from an iPad. Please excuse any spelling errors. > On 17 Nov 2015, at 5:21 p.m., Fazil wrote: > > Hi, list. > I have IPhone6Plus with IOS9.02. > In Indian Culture it is ok to ask

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Hello, I go paranoid if I have to turn off VO, so for most of it, I'll either have a look, or leave VO on to monitor them. Sent from an iPad. Please excuse any spelling errors. > On 17 Nov 2015, at 6:12 p.m., Pete Nalda wrote: > > I wouldn't let anybody play with my phone,

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bring the speach rate down, to a level you are comfortable with. believe me! it will still be to fast for most sighted people. Dave. From: Fazil Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 9:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: They Want To See My Phone And I can Not Say No, What Should I Do?

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Fazil, if your relatives insist on your turning VoiceOver off, you might consider telling them it can be done, but if for some reason VO cannot be toggled on again, the phone is useless to you. The idea here is to impress on them the risk you and they are taking in using the phone while at the

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Fazil, you are indeed in a sticky situation. Instead of making your phone very difficult--if not impossible--to use, would you consider telling your sighted relatives that they may use it, but if something happens to it, it is a specially-modified phone that is difficult and terribly expensive

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Or, try asking them if you can show them how it works for you. If they sit next to you or stand behind you, they can watch you use the phone. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Craig Werner Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015

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Hello, Sorry about that; forgot not everyone likes high rates. Well, Here are 2 more things, instead. Disable hints, disable accessibility short cut, and disable Siri, for the time being. Sent from an iPad. Please excuse any spelling errors. > On 17 Nov 2015, at 9:02 p.m., Fazil

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I’m sorry, but if I didn’t want hem to see my phone, I’d just say no. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of rajmund Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 2:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: They Want To See My Phone And I can Not Say No,