Re: going through the process of unlocking a phone

[lenron brown]

Only because they are trying to con you in to buying a device from them

On 8/5/18, Zhi Huang  wrote:
> I should mention that I purchased an unlocked iPhone 7 from Apple that I
> have been using with ATT.  Yesterday, I went to Comcast who has good deals
> for xfinity customers price wise using Verizon networks.  However, after
> checking my serial and Imei numbers, I did not make the switch because they
> insisted and made all kinds of excuses about how my iPhone 7 cannot be
> transferred and how I need to get a new phone with them.  I called Verizon
> directly to see what they say and same old excuses.  Both Comcast and
> Verizon are saying this is a specific problem with ATT iPhone 7's.  That is
> after I insisted that the phone is unlocked but they are saying it’s the
> specific configuration after I chose to use the phone with ATT.  I checked
> with Apple and they are saying that my phone is unlocked and that I could
> try to get them to put in a Verizon sim card, but Comcast and Verizon won't
> budge.  I googled this and got the following poast that pretty much shares
> my experiences:
> https://forums.xfinity.com/t5/Xfinity-Mobile/Adding-unlocked-iPhone-to-xfinity-account-Is-a-major/td-p/3037640
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Arlene
> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2018 5:40 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: going through the process of unlocking a phone
>
> Anna, we're getting ready to unlock our t-mobile phones. A person at the
> t-mobile store told us if we have another iphone on a different network
> other than t-mobile, that if you were to take the sim card out of that other
> network's phone, and put it into the phone you want to unlock, it would pop
> up some messages with the promps to unlock it. Here's some more information,
> with t-mobile, if you buy a phone from them, pay cash for the phone in full,
> it will still come with the phone locked so you would still have to unlock
> the phone, but if you could buy this same iphone from apple it would come
> unlocked. We don't know this from any actual experience but verizon phones,
> claim all their phones are unlocked, and a person from oneof the corprid
> verizon store said  the phones being unlocked has been going on for about 4
> years. One thing about it, if you put another sim card from another carrier
> that phone and it works, than you would know the phone is unlocked. We don't
> know about at about this, but we suggest you could ask at, and we hope
> you get an honest answer. I would say to ask more than one individual at
> at, I would ask both, someone in one of your city's corprid at stores,
> and also you could ask the customer service when you call on the phone. If
> your phone is completely paid for we suggest you get it unlocked soon.
> Before ending this message, we just called verizon and at According to
> the customer service person from the at  customer service number, she said
> the phones were locked, but to find out for sure there's 2 things you could
> do besides calling the store. With your imei number you could call either
> the at customer service or call the store and they should be able to tell
> you. The second way to check with your imei number is to search for an imei
> checker. One of the results for an imei checker I found was to check and see
> if one's imei number was  on t-mobile. There's probably imei checkers for
> all the carriers. Let us know what you find out, Anna, and possibly someone
> knows a bit more.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Anna Dresner" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2018 9:59 AM
> Subject: Re: going through the process of unlocking a phone
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Is there a way to find out whether a phone is unlocked or not? I bought mine
> from Apple last fall, specifying AT as the carrier. It's an iPhone X. I
> seem to remember hearing that these phones came unlocked, but I'm not sure.
>
> I'd rather not have to do the restore from backup if it's not necessary.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 5, 2018, at 12:54 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>> T
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RE: going through the process of unlocking a phone

[Zhi Huang]

I should mention that I purchased an unlocked iPhone 7 from Apple that I have 
been using with ATT.  Yesterday, I went to Comcast who has good deals for 
xfinity customers price wise using Verizon networks.  However, after checking 
my serial and Imei numbers, I did not make the switch because they insisted and 
made all kinds of excuses about how my iPhone 7 cannot be transferred and how I 
need to get a new phone with them.  I called Verizon directly to see what they 
say and same old excuses.  Both Comcast and Verizon are saying this is a 
specific problem with ATT iPhone 7's.  That is after I insisted that the phone 
is unlocked but they are saying it’s the specific configuration after I chose 
to use the phone with ATT.  I checked with Apple and they are saying that my 
phone is unlocked and that I could try to get them to put in a Verizon sim 
card, but Comcast and Verizon won't budge.  I googled this and got the 
following poast that pretty much shares my experiences:
https://forums.xfinity.com/t5/Xfinity-Mobile/Adding-unlocked-iPhone-to-xfinity-account-Is-a-major/td-p/3037640


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2018 5:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: going through the process of unlocking a phone

Anna, we're getting ready to unlock our t-mobile phones. A person at the 
t-mobile store told us if we have another iphone on a different network other 
than t-mobile, that if you were to take the sim card out of that other 
network's phone, and put it into the phone you want to unlock, it would pop up 
some messages with the promps to unlock it. Here's some more information, with 
t-mobile, if you buy a phone from them, pay cash for the phone in full, it will 
still come with the phone locked so you would still have to unlock the phone, 
but if you could buy this same iphone from apple it would come unlocked. We 
don't know this from any actual experience but verizon phones, claim all their 
phones are unlocked, and a person from oneof the corprid verizon store said  
the phones being unlocked has been going on for about 4 years. One thing about 
it, if you put another sim card from another carrier that phone and it works, 
than you would know the phone is unlocked. We don't know about at about this, 
but we suggest you could ask at, and we hope you get an honest answer. I 
would say to ask more than one individual at at, I would ask both, someone in 
one of your city's corprid at stores, and also you could ask the customer 
service when you call on the phone. If your phone is completely paid for we 
suggest you get it unlocked soon. 
Before ending this message, we just called verizon and at According to the 
customer service person from the at  customer service number, she said the 
phones were locked, but to find out for sure there's 2 things you could do 
besides calling the store. With your imei number you could call either the at 
customer service or call the store and they should be able to tell you. The 
second way to check with your imei number is to search for an imei checker. One 
of the results for an imei checker I found was to check and see if one's imei 
number was  on t-mobile. There's probably imei checkers for all the carriers. 
Let us know what you find out, Anna, and possibly someone knows a bit more.
- Original Message -
From: "Anna Dresner" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2018 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: going through the process of unlocking a phone


Hi all,

Is there a way to find out whether a phone is unlocked or not? I bought mine 
from Apple last fall, specifying AT as the carrier. It's an iPhone X. I seem 
to remember hearing that these phones came unlocked, but I'm not sure. 
I'd rather not have to do the restore from backup if it's not necessary.

Best,
Anna


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 5, 2018, at 12:54 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> T

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RE: update on the google groups saga

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Exactly, I assume you are logged in with a gmail address which is your Google 
account, this is the same for me, I am using a gmail address as my Google 
account Id, but use siegh...@live.ca as the address where I am receiving 
messages.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Monday, August 6, 2018 6:46 PM
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Subject: Re: update on the google groups saga

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>> On Aug 6, 2018, at 5:07 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>
>> And, I'm having problem getting my io group messages; they are not coming 
>> since we had a bad storm Friday, but the Google groups are coming just fine, 
>> as well as my personal emails. I'll have to get with the server tomorrow - 
>> yuck - Home page, server site, password, all that stuff, then something has 
>> to be clicked. I hope I don't have to get Jim to help me. I hope the server 
>> and I can manage it all. Regardless of how annoyed I am, I still have the 
>> same problem.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Carolyn
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Rebecca Ilniski' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
>> Sent: Monday, August 6, 2018 12:05 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: update on the google groups saga
>>
>> Hi all.  I decided that since my address doesn’t show up in the membership 
>> list that I would try and rejoin and then try to go nomail from there.  
>> Don’t know if I’d get double messages that way or if it will correct the 
>> issue that I’m having.  We shall see.  It was just a thought as when I’d go 
>> online logging in to the google groups web site under my icloud account that 
>> I set up there it doesn’t show me subscribed to any groups at all.
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RE: App waonted that provides gps sattlelite info:

[Sieghard Weitzel]

No, you got this mixed up, it’s not Don we have to worry about, it’s Donald and 
while he might not actually be from there at least he seems to be one of tyrant 
Putin’s good buddies.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fred 
Olver
Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 5:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: App waonted that provides gps sattlelite info:

He's a spy, couldn't you figure that out? He's from Russia or China, and he 
wants to shoot them all down, especially the ones from Estonia.

Fred Olver
- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2018 1:34 PM
Subject: RE: App waonted that provides gps sattlelite info:

Hi Don,

Just curious what the benefit is of knowing this information?

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Don 
Breda
Sent: Monday, August 6, 2018 11:28 AM
To: VIPhone google group 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: App waonted that provides gps sattlelite info:


Hi Listers,



I am looking for an app that will report the number of sattlelites in view at 
any particular time or location.



I had one called status tool which was great, giving number of sattlelites, 
their signal strengths etc.



That app was never updated so it won't run on IOS 11.



I have downloaded apps such as gps, gps status, gps tools, etc. and none of 
them do this.



Any suggestions would be helpful.

Maybe I am wasting my time, not sure.



Don


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Re: update on the google groups saga

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On 08/06/2018 08:01 PM, 'Maria Reyes' via VIPhone wrote:

the weird thing is that when i click the link to the group at the bottom of 
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On Aug 6, 2018, at 5:07 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

And, I'm having problem getting my io group messages; they are not coming since 
we had a bad storm Friday, but the Google groups are coming just fine, as well 
as my personal emails. I'll have to get with the server tomorrow - yuck - Home 
page, server site, password, all that stuff, then something has to be clicked. 
I hope I don't have to get Jim to help me. I hope the server and I can manage 
it all. Regardless of how annoyed I am, I still have the same problem.

Best regards,

Carolyn


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From: 'Rebecca Ilniski' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Monday, August 6, 2018 12:05 PM
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Subject: update on the google groups saga

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Re: update on the google groups saga

['Maria Reyes' via VIPhone]

the weird thing is that when i click the link to the group at the bottom of 
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> On Aug 6, 2018, at 5:07 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> And, I'm having problem getting my io group messages; they are not coming 
> since we had a bad storm Friday, but the Google groups are coming just fine, 
> as well as my personal emails. I'll have to get with the server tomorrow - 
> yuck - Home page, server site, password, all that stuff, then something has 
> to be clicked. I hope I don't have to get Jim to help me. I hope the server 
> and I can manage it all. Regardless of how annoyed I am, I still have the 
> same problem. 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Carolyn 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Rebecca Ilniski' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Monday, August 6, 2018 12:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: update on the google groups saga
> 
> Hi all.  I decided that since my address doesn’t show up in the membership 
> list that I would try and rejoin and then try to go nomail from there.  Don’t 
> know if I’d get double messages that way or if it will correct the issue that 
> I’m having.  We shall see.  It was just a thought as when I’d go online 
> logging in to the google groups web site under my icloud account that I set 
> up there it doesn’t show me subscribed to any groups at all.  
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Re: App waonted that provides gps sattlelite info:

[Fred Olver]

He's a spy, couldn't you figure that out? He's from Russia or China, and he 
wants to shoot them all down, especially the ones from Estonia.

Fred Olver
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
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  Sent: Monday, August 06, 2018 1:34 PM
  Subject: RE: App waonted that provides gps sattlelite info:


  Hi Don,

   

  Just curious what the benefit is of knowing this information?

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Don 
Breda
  Sent: Monday, August 6, 2018 11:28 AM
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  Subject: App waonted that provides gps sattlelite info:

   

  Hi Listers,

   

  I am looking for an app that will report the number of sattlelites in view at 
any particular time or location.

   

  I had one called status tool which was great, giving number of sattlelites, 
their signal strengths etc.

   

  That app was never updated so it won't run on IOS 11.

   

  I have downloaded apps such as gps, gps status, gps tools, etc. and none of 
them do this.

   

  Any suggestions would be helpful.

  Maybe I am wasting my time, not sure.

   

  Don

   

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Re: My apple TV needs an accessible tv set.

[Fred Olver]

Thanks much, however I also have purchased an Amazon Fire Stick so I doubt if I 
need the ROKU.

Fred
  - Original Message - 
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  Fred, they also make an accessible DVD player which I paid $20 for.

   

   

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Olver
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  Subject: My apple TV needs an accessible tv set.

   

  I have an Apple TV and i want to pair it with an accessible TV. If you have 
one and are extremely pleased with it I would like to know about it so I can 
get one too.

   

  Fred Olver

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RE: My apple TV needs an accessible tv set.

[llumpkin]

We have a roku ultra box and the voice on it is a fairly nice female. He voice 
on the tv is male and rather like an irish darth vader  but I don’t have to 
like it as long as it gets the job done.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Monday, August 6, 2018 12:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My apple TV needs an accessible tv set.

 

Is the voice on that TV the same as the one on the Roku stick? We have one of 
those, and I actually found a voice almost not understandable. I’ve been using 
speech synthesizers for a long time, all the way back to dos. So it’s a great 
mystery to me why these folks who make these TV boxes accessible can’t find a 
way to give us a voice that’s really clear. Amazon wins hands-down in my 
opinion in that regard. Just like with the Roku TV, switching ports is totally 
accessible on the Amazon one, and you can also named him whatever you want, 
which I didn’t bother doing. You also have voice control of the TV, including 
turning it off and on, switching ports, launching movies or apps whatever. The 
Amazon TV is more expensive than that Roku. So if you’re satisfied with the 
voice, it sounds like it could be a good way to go. I just couldn’t get past 
the voice if it’s the same as the one on stick that we have.
Mary

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 6, 2018, at 8:46 AM, mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> > mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> > wrote:

I do have one and love it. It is an Insignia in25 roku tv from best buy. It 
only cost around $150. They have bigger ones but this one meets my needs 
perfectly. The

Spectrum roku app is very accessible as is tunein. The text-to-speech voice 
isn’t real great but works for me fine. It has 3 hdmi ports and a fiber-optic 
out for running sound bars or our Yamaha receiver which has fiberoptic ports. 
It has a composit or component port (I can’t keep the two straight). I like the 
set-up very much.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Fred 
Olver
Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 10:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: My apple TV needs an accessible tv set.

 

I have an Apple TV and i want to pair it with an accessible TV. If you have one 
and are extremely pleased with it I would like to know about it so I can get 
one too.

 

Fred Olver

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RE: update on the google groups saga

[Carolyn Arnold]

And, I'm having problem getting my io group messages; they are not coming since 
we had a bad storm Friday, but the Google groups are coming just fine, as well 
as my personal emails. I'll have to get with the server tomorrow - yuck - Home 
page, server site, password, all that stuff, then something has to be clicked. 
I hope I don't have to get Jim to help me. I hope the server and I can manage 
it all. Regardless of how annoyed I am, I still have the same problem. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: update on the google groups saga

Hi all.  I decided that since my address doesn’t show up in the membership list 
that I would try and rejoin and then try to go nomail from there.  Don’t know 
if I’d get double messages that way or if it will correct the issue that I’m 
having.  We shall see.  It was just a thought as when I’d go online logging in 
to the google groups web site under my icloud account that I set up there it 
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Re: Replying Directly to Sender

['Bill Gallik' via VIPhone]

Hmmm, how perplexing!  I’ll have to check settings and see if I’ve got 
something awry!

Bill Gallik
wfgal...@icloud.com



On Aug 6, 2018, at 2:19 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Not sure, your emails to the list simply don’t show your email address, neither 
gmail nor iCloud.
I am replying to your email, just look at the header below, all it says is your 
name and via Viphone and then the Viphone@GoogleGroups.com 
 email address, most other addresses say 
something lik e “on behalf of” followed by th eposter’s emal address.
 
From: 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> 
Sent: Monday, August 6, 2018 12:04 PM
To: viPhone E-Mail List mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Replying Directly to Sender
 
 What you say here is strange indeed since had I attempted to send an e-mail to 
the viPhone list with that address it would have been rejected because I’m 
subscribed with my iCloud account and NOT my gmail account.
 
 

- Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
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- Contributor Unknown
 
 
 
On Aug 6, 2018, at 11:53 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
 
Hi Bill,

It is easy to find somebody's email simply by pressing Shift+Tab a few times 
when the message is open until you get to the "From" field. I did this in your 
message and after pressing Control+A and then Control+C, here is what I get if 
I paste the content of the clipboard:

'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Yours is another example where your email is not part of that address, here is 
an example from a message Donna posted:
viphone@googlegroups.com ; on behalf of; Donna 
mailto:merma...@bellsouth.net>>

As you can see this "From" field contains the "on behalf of" followed by the 
person's email address. I don't know what those of you where the address 
doesn't show up do differently, but even if you reply to the email the address 
is simply not there, here is the header when I press Control+R to reply to your 
email:

-Original Message-
From: 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> 
Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2018 10:42 PM
To: viPhone  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Replying Directly to Sender

Only the Viphone email is given, if I wanted to reply directly to you I have no 
way of doing so whereas with Donna's and most other posts I can just go into 
the From field, put the Jaws cursor on their email, right click or press 
Shift+F10 and select copy, this will copy only their email address to the 
clipboard not the entire line which I pasted above and selected with Control+A.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> 
Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2018 10:42 PM
To: viPhone  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Replying Directly to Sender

I’ve noticed a couple messages on this list commenting that, when someone wants 
to reply directly to the sender of a specific e-mail message, they can’t find 
that person’s address.  Here’s a somewhat clumsy “work around."


First, reply to the message in question.

Then, locate the “Originator Line” and you should find that the e-mail address 
of the person sending the message to which you wish to reply is listed.  Copy 
that direct e-mail address, go back to the “To” field - deleting the list 
address and paste the sender’s address there instead.

NOTE: The above tip presumes a degree of proficiency with selecting, copying 
and pasting text.  If you are interested in using the tip but are uncomfortable 
with text selection feel free to contact me directly at:

   wfgal...@gmail.com 

*No, the above address is not the one I’ve registered with on this list, but 
that address gets much less traffic and will be much more convenient for me to 
peruse!

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RE: App waonted that provides gps sattlelite info:

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Don,

I had a look and found the following two apps:

GPS Data XXL
Price: Free, offers $0.99 in-app purchase to remove ads
However, I downloaded this app since it was free and while it displays 
elevation, speed and coordinates in a nice way which Voiceover reads well I 
don’t see anything about number of satellites and strength even though the 
description mentions this, I have to get one o fmy sighted employees to take a 
look tomorrow to see if the information is there but not accessible to 
Voiceover.
I might keep this app, though, I can ask SIRI about my elevation and such, but 
I think this one works without data and it’s nice to have access to this in an 
uncluttered format and speed is also nice when you are in a car or train, have 
to try it next time I fly to see if it works on the plane, often these apps 
don’t work at very high altitudes and speeds.

Here is another one which costs a few bucks, but I didn’t buy it, it gets good 
ratings, though, just not sure about accessibility:
GPS Diagnostic: Satellite 
Test
Price: $2.99, offers $1.99 in-app purchase for “Coordinates-Pro” whatever 
exactly that is.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Don Breda
Sent: Monday, August 6, 2018 11:28 AM
To: VIPhone google group 
Subject: App waonted that provides gps sattlelite info:


Hi Listers,



I am looking for an app that will report the number of sattlelites in view at 
any particular time or location.



I had one called status tool which was great, giving number of sattlelites, 
their signal strengths etc.



That app was never updated so it won't run on IOS 11.



I have downloaded apps such as gps, gps status, gps tools, etc. and none of 
them do this.



Any suggestions would be helpful.

Maybe I am wasting my time, not sure.



Don


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RE: Replying Directly to Sender

[Sieghard Weitzel]

What is the name of the tool you use?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dan
Sent: Monday, August 6, 2018 12:20 PM
To: 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Replying Directly to Sender


HI,



this may hel0p.



If you are using an email tool that will allow you to display the source of the 
email you can look for the follow tag and get the original sneders email 
address:P



smtp.mailfrom=wfgal...@icloud.com;



Is this what you are looking for?



Dan  Beaver

On 8/6/2018 3:11 PM, 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone wrote:
 I believe I misunderstood Sieghard’s prior message so please disregard that.

What I am suggesting in this thread has nothing to do with any of the e-mail 
header fields.  Simply that when I reply to a message from this list the 
message is copied in full after my signature tag.  Whereupon I can locate it, 
select that specific address, copy it and then paste it into an entirely 
message.  Or, as I often do, replace the viPhone address with the address I’ve 
selected and copied from the message body.

I suppose if one has e-mail configured such that the original message is not 
copied into the reply this cannot be done!

- Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
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- "No matter what your temperament is now, gratitude will give you more 
patience, understanding, compassion, and kindness."
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mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Hi Bill,

It is easy to find somebody's email simply by pressing Shift+Tab a few times 
when the message is open until you get to the "From" field. I did this in your 
message and after pressing Control+A and then Control+C, here is what I get if 
I paste the content of the clipboard:

'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Yours is another example where your email is not part of that address, here is 
an example from a message Donna posted:
viphone@googlegroups.com; on behalf of; Donna 
mailto:merma...@bellsouth.net>>

As you can see this "From" field contains the "on behalf of" followed by the 
person's email address. I don't know what those of you where the address 
doesn't show up do differently, but even if you reply to the email the address 
is simply not there, here is the header when I press Control+R to reply to your 
email:

-Original Message-
From: 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2018 10:42 PM
To: viPhone  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Replying Directly to Sender

Only the Viphone email is given, if I wanted to reply directly to you I have no 
way of doing so whereas with Donna's and most other posts I can just go into 
the From field, put the Jaws cursor on their email, right click or press 
Shift+F10 and select copy, this will copy only their email address to the 
clipboard not the entire line which I pasted above and selected with Control+A.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2018 10:42 PM
To: viPhone  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Replying Directly to Sender

I’ve noticed a couple messages on this list commenting that, when someone wants 
to reply directly to the sender of a specific e-mail message, they can’t find 
that person’s address.  Here’s a somewhat clumsy “work around."


First, reply to the message in question.

Then, locate the “Originator Line” and you should find that the e-mail address 
of the person sending the message to which you wish to reply is listed.  Copy 
that direct e-mail address, go back to the “To” field - deleting the list 
address and paste the sender’s address there instead.

NOTE: The above tip presumes a degree of proficiency with selecting, copying 
and pasting text.  If you are interested in using the tip but are uncomfortable 
with text selection feel free to contact me directly at:

   wfgal...@gmail.com

*No, the above address is not the one I’ve registered with on this list, but 
that address gets much less traffic and will be much more convenient for me to 
peruse!

- Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
- "It is even harder for the average ape to believe that he has descended from 
man."
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RE: Replying Directly to Sender

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It can’t be done with your emails to the list, they don’t contain your email 
address.


From: 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone 
Sent: Monday, August 6, 2018 12:11 PM
To: viPhone E-Mail List 
Subject: Re: Replying Directly to Sender

 I believe I misunderstood Sieghard’s prior message so please disregard that.

What I am suggesting in this thread has nothing to do with any of the e-mail 
header fields.  Simply that when I reply to a message from this list the 
message is copied in full after my signature tag.  Whereupon I can locate it, 
select that specific address, copy it and then paste it into an entirely 
message.  Or, as I often do, replace the viPhone address with the address I’ve 
selected and copied from the message body.

I suppose if one has e-mail configured such that the original message is not 
copied into the reply this cannot be done!

- Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
- Gratitude Advantages
- "No matter what your temperament is now, gratitude will give you more 
patience, understanding, compassion, and kindness."
- Rhonda Byrne

On Aug 6, 2018, at 11:53 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Hi Bill,

It is easy to find somebody's email simply by pressing Shift+Tab a few times 
when the message is open until you get to the "From" field. I did this in your 
message and after pressing Control+A and then Control+C, here is what I get if 
I paste the content of the clipboard:

'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Yours is another example where your email is not part of that address, here is 
an example from a message Donna posted:
viphone@googlegroups.com; on behalf of; Donna 
mailto:merma...@bellsouth.net>>

As you can see this "From" field contains the "on behalf of" followed by the 
person's email address. I don't know what those of you where the address 
doesn't show up do differently, but even if you reply to the email the address 
is simply not there, here is the header when I press Control+R to reply to your 
email:

-Original Message-
From: 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2018 10:42 PM
To: viPhone  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Replying Directly to Sender

Only the Viphone email is given, if I wanted to reply directly to you I have no 
way of doing so whereas with Donna's and most other posts I can just go into 
the From field, put the Jaws cursor on their email, right click or press 
Shift+F10 and select copy, this will copy only their email address to the 
clipboard not the entire line which I pasted above and selected with Control+A.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2018 10:42 PM
To: viPhone  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Replying Directly to Sender

I’ve noticed a couple messages on this list commenting that, when someone wants 
to reply directly to the sender of a specific e-mail message, they can’t find 
that person’s address.  Here’s a somewhat clumsy “work around."


First, reply to the message in question.

Then, locate the “Originator Line” and you should find that the e-mail address 
of the person sending the message to which you wish to reply is listed.  Copy 
that direct e-mail address, go back to the “To” field - deleting the list 
address and paste the sender’s address there instead.

NOTE: The above tip presumes a degree of proficiency with selecting, copying 
and pasting text.  If you are interested in using the tip but are uncomfortable 
with text selection feel free to contact me directly at:

   wfgal...@gmail.com

*No, the above address is not the one I’ve registered with on this list, but 
that address gets much less traffic and will be much more convenient for me to 
peruse!

- Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
- "It is even harder for the average ape to believe that he has descended from 
man."
- US Editor and Satirist, H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)

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Re: Replying Directly to Sender

[Dan]

  
  
HI,

  
this may hel0p.

  
If you are using an email tool that will allow you to display
the source of the email you can look for the follow tag and get
the original sneders email address:P

  
smtp.mailfrom=wfgal...@icloud.com;

  
Is this what you are looking for?

  
Dan  Beaver


On 8/6/2018 3:11 PM, 'Bill Gallik' via
  VIPhone wrote:

 I
  believe I misunderstood Sieghard’s prior message so please
  disregard that.
  
  
  What I am suggesting in this thread has nothing to
do with any of the e-mail header fields.  Simply that when I
reply to a message from this list the message is copied in full
after my signature tag.  Whereupon I can locate it, select that
specific address, copy it and then paste it into an entirely
message.  Or, as I often do, replace the viPhone address with
the address I’ve selected and copied from the message body.
  
  
  I suppose if one has e-mail configured such that the
original message is not copied into the reply this cannot be
done!

  

- Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
- Gratitude Advantages
  - "No matter what your temperament is now, gratitude will
  give you more patience, understanding, compassion, and
  kindness."
  - Rhonda Byrne
  

  


  On Aug 6, 2018, at 11:53 AM, Sieghard Weitzel
 wrote:
  
  
Hi Bill,
  
  It is easy to find somebody's email simply by pressing
  Shift+Tab a few times when the message is open until you
  get to the "From" field. I did this in your message and
  after pressing Control+A and then Control+C, here is what
  I get if I paste the content of the clipboard:
  
  'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone 
  Yours is another example where your email is not part of
  that address, here is an example from a message Donna
  posted:
  viphone@googlegroups.com; on
  behalf of; Donna 
  
  As you can see this "From" field contains the "on behalf
  of" followed by the person's email address. I don't know
  what those of you where the address doesn't show up do
  differently, but even if you reply to the email the
  address is simply not there, here is the header when I
  press Control+R to reply to your email:
  
  -Original Message-
  From: 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone 
  
  Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2018 10:42 PM
  To: viPhone  
  Subject: Replying Directly to Sender
  
  Only the Viphone email is given, if I wanted to reply
  directly to you I have no way of doing so whereas with
  Donna's and most other posts I can just go into the From
  field, put the Jaws cursor on their email, right click or
  press Shift+F10 and select copy, this will copy only their
  email address to the clipboard not the entire line which I
  pasted above and selected with Control+A.
  
  Regards,
  Sieghard
  
  -Original Message-
  From: 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone 
  
  Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2018 10:42 PM
  To: viPhone  
  Subject: Replying Directly to Sender
  
  I’ve noticed a couple messages on this list commenting
  that, when someone wants to reply directly to the sender
  of a specific e-mail message, they can’t find that
  person’s address.  Here’s a somewhat clumsy “work around."
  
  
  First, reply to the message in question.
  
  Then, locate the “Originator Line” and you should find
  that the e-mail address of the person sending the message
  to which you wish to reply is listed.  Copy that direct
  e-mail address, go back to the “To” field - deleting the
  list address and paste the sender’s address there instead.
  
  NOTE: The above tip presumes a degree of proficiency with
  selecting, copying and pasting text.  If you are
  interested in using the tip but are uncomfortable with
  text selection feel free to contact 

RE: Replying Directly to Sender

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Not sure, your emails to the list simply don’t show your email address, neither 
gmail nor iCloud.
I am replying to your email, just look at the header below, all it says is your 
name and via Viphone and then the 
Viphone@GoogleGroups.com email address, most 
other addresses say something lik e “on behalf of” followed by th eposter’s 
emal address.

From: 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone 
Sent: Monday, August 6, 2018 12:04 PM
To: viPhone E-Mail List 
Subject: Re: Replying Directly to Sender

 What you say here is strange indeed since had I attempted to send an e-mail to 
the viPhone list with that address it would have been rejected because I’m 
subscribed with my iCloud account and NOT my gmail account.



- Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
- “The Early Bird may get the worm, but the Second Mouse gets the cheese!”
- Contributor Unknown



On Aug 6, 2018, at 11:53 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Hi Bill,

It is easy to find somebody's email simply by pressing Shift+Tab a few times 
when the message is open until you get to the "From" field. I did this in your 
message and after pressing Control+A and then Control+C, here is what I get if 
I paste the content of the clipboard:

'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Yours is another example where your email is not part of that address, here is 
an example from a message Donna posted:
viphone@googlegroups.com; on behalf of; Donna 
mailto:merma...@bellsouth.net>>

As you can see this "From" field contains the "on behalf of" followed by the 
person's email address. I don't know what those of you where the address 
doesn't show up do differently, but even if you reply to the email the address 
is simply not there, here is the header when I press Control+R to reply to your 
email:

-Original Message-
From: 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2018 10:42 PM
To: viPhone  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Replying Directly to Sender

Only the Viphone email is given, if I wanted to reply directly to you I have no 
way of doing so whereas with Donna's and most other posts I can just go into 
the From field, put the Jaws cursor on their email, right click or press 
Shift+F10 and select copy, this will copy only their email address to the 
clipboard not the entire line which I pasted above and selected with Control+A.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2018 10:42 PM
To: viPhone  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Replying Directly to Sender

I’ve noticed a couple messages on this list commenting that, when someone wants 
to reply directly to the sender of a specific e-mail message, they can’t find 
that person’s address.  Here’s a somewhat clumsy “work around."


First, reply to the message in question.

Then, locate the “Originator Line” and you should find that the e-mail address 
of the person sending the message to which you wish to reply is listed.  Copy 
that direct e-mail address, go back to the “To” field - deleting the list 
address and paste the sender’s address there instead.

NOTE: The above tip presumes a degree of proficiency with selecting, copying 
and pasting text.  If you are interested in using the tip but are uncomfortable 
with text selection feel free to contact me directly at:

   wfgal...@gmail.com

*No, the above address is not the one I’ve registered with on this list, but 
that address gets much less traffic and will be much more convenient for me to 
peruse!

- Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
- "It is even harder for the average ape to believe that he has descended from 
man."
- US Editor and Satirist, H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)

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Re: Replying Directly to Sender

['Bill Gallik' via VIPhone]

 I believe I misunderstood Sieghard’s prior message so please disregard that.

What I am suggesting in this thread has nothing to do with any of the e-mail 
header fields.  Simply that when I reply to a message from this list the 
message is copied in full after my signature tag.  Whereupon I can locate it, 
select that specific address, copy it and then paste it into an entirely 
message.  Or, as I often do, replace the viPhone address with the address I’ve 
selected and copied from the message body.

I suppose if one has e-mail configured such that the original message is not 
copied into the reply this cannot be done!

- Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
- Gratitude Advantages
- "No matter what your temperament is now, gratitude will give you more 
patience, understanding, compassion, and kindness."
- Rhonda Byrne


On Aug 6, 2018, at 11:53 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Bill,

It is easy to find somebody's email simply by pressing Shift+Tab a few times 
when the message is open until you get to the "From" field. I did this in your 
message and after pressing Control+A and then Control+C, here is what I get if 
I paste the content of the clipboard:

'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone 
Yours is another example where your email is not part of that address, here is 
an example from a message Donna posted:
viphone@googlegroups.com; on behalf of; Donna 

As you can see this "From" field contains the "on behalf of" followed by the 
person's email address. I don't know what those of you where the address 
doesn't show up do differently, but even if you reply to the email the address 
is simply not there, here is the header when I press Control+R to reply to your 
email:

-Original Message-
From: 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone  
Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2018 10:42 PM
To: viPhone  
Subject: Replying Directly to Sender

Only the Viphone email is given, if I wanted to reply directly to you I have no 
way of doing so whereas with Donna's and most other posts I can just go into 
the From field, put the Jaws cursor on their email, right click or press 
Shift+F10 and select copy, this will copy only their email address to the 
clipboard not the entire line which I pasted above and selected with Control+A.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone  
Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2018 10:42 PM
To: viPhone  
Subject: Replying Directly to Sender

I’ve noticed a couple messages on this list commenting that, when someone wants 
to reply directly to the sender of a specific e-mail message, they can’t find 
that person’s address.  Here’s a somewhat clumsy “work around."


First, reply to the message in question.

Then, locate the “Originator Line” and you should find that the e-mail address 
of the person sending the message to which you wish to reply is listed.  Copy 
that direct e-mail address, go back to the “To” field - deleting the list 
address and paste the sender’s address there instead.

NOTE: The above tip presumes a degree of proficiency with selecting, copying 
and pasting text.  If you are interested in using the tip but are uncomfortable 
with text selection feel free to contact me directly at:

   wfgal...@gmail.com

*No, the above address is not the one I’ve registered with on this list, but 
that address gets much less traffic and will be much more convenient for me to 
peruse!

- Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
- "It is even harder for the average ape to believe that he has descended from 
man."
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Re: Replying Directly to Sender

['Bill Gallik' via VIPhone]

 What you say here is strange indeed since had I attempted to send an e-mail to 
the viPhone list with that address it would have been rejected because I’m 
subscribed with my iCloud account and NOT my gmail account.



- Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
- “The Early Bird may get the worm, but the Second Mouse gets the cheese!”
- Contributor Unknown



On Aug 6, 2018, at 11:53 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Bill,

It is easy to find somebody's email simply by pressing Shift+Tab a few times 
when the message is open until you get to the "From" field. I did this in your 
message and after pressing Control+A and then Control+C, here is what I get if 
I paste the content of the clipboard:

'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone 
Yours is another example where your email is not part of that address, here is 
an example from a message Donna posted:
viphone@googlegroups.com; on behalf of; Donna 

As you can see this "From" field contains the "on behalf of" followed by the 
person's email address. I don't know what those of you where the address 
doesn't show up do differently, but even if you reply to the email the address 
is simply not there, here is the header when I press Control+R to reply to your 
email:

-Original Message-
From: 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone  
Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2018 10:42 PM
To: viPhone  
Subject: Replying Directly to Sender

Only the Viphone email is given, if I wanted to reply directly to you I have no 
way of doing so whereas with Donna's and most other posts I can just go into 
the From field, put the Jaws cursor on their email, right click or press 
Shift+F10 and select copy, this will copy only their email address to the 
clipboard not the entire line which I pasted above and selected with Control+A.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone  
Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2018 10:42 PM
To: viPhone  
Subject: Replying Directly to Sender

I’ve noticed a couple messages on this list commenting that, when someone wants 
to reply directly to the sender of a specific e-mail message, they can’t find 
that person’s address.  Here’s a somewhat clumsy “work around."


First, reply to the message in question.

Then, locate the “Originator Line” and you should find that the e-mail address 
of the person sending the message to which you wish to reply is listed.  Copy 
that direct e-mail address, go back to the “To” field - deleting the list 
address and paste the sender’s address there instead.

NOTE: The above tip presumes a degree of proficiency with selecting, copying 
and pasting text.  If you are interested in using the tip but are uncomfortable 
with text selection feel free to contact me directly at:

   wfgal...@gmail.com

*No, the above address is not the one I’ve registered with on this list, but 
that address gets much less traffic and will be much more convenient for me to 
peruse!

- Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
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man."
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RE: App waonted that provides gps sattlelite info:

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Don,

Just curious what the benefit is of knowing this information?

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Don Breda
Sent: Monday, August 6, 2018 11:28 AM
To: VIPhone google group 
Subject: App waonted that provides gps sattlelite info:


Hi Listers,



I am looking for an app that will report the number of sattlelites in view at 
any particular time or location.



I had one called status tool which was great, giving number of sattlelites, 
their signal strengths etc.



That app was never updated so it won't run on IOS 11.



I have downloaded apps such as gps, gps status, gps tools, etc. and none of 
them do this.



Any suggestions would be helpful.

Maybe I am wasting my time, not sure.



Don


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App waonted that provides gps sattlelite info:

[Don Breda]

Hi Listers,


I am looking for an app that will report the number of sattlelites in 
view at any particular time or location.



I had one called status tool which was great, giving number of 
sattlelites, their signal strengths etc.



That app was never updated so it won't run on IOS 11.


I have downloaded apps such as gps, gps status, gps tools, etc. and none 
of them do this.



Any suggestions would be helpful.

Maybe I am wasting my time, not sure.


Don


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RE: Reordering locations in the native weather app question.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Del,

I live in a town called Smithers in British Columbia, the rest of my family is 
in Fort St. John, also in BC and I also have Vancouver and some other cities in 
my list.
When I first open the Weather app the first in the list seems to show the 
details, that is Smithers, my home town.
If I touch at the bottom of the screen just above the home button I have a 
picker box where it says "Smithers", 1 of 12", to the right of that and the 
very last item on the screen is an "Edit Cities" button.
If I double tap that button I then see a list of all the cities and each of 
them is read by Voiceover with their name, the local time and the current 
temperature and then Voiceover says"button" at the end.
I can now double tap and hold until I hear the little TriTone and then drag my 
finger up or down, if for example I double tap and hold on Smithers at the very 
top and drag down a bit Voiceover says "After Fort St. John" which happens to 
be just underneath, if I now let go and check I have Fort St. John at the top 
and Smithers underneath.
If this doesn't work for you I'd make sure first of all your screen is clean, a 
dirty screen can mess with gestures and also make sure you don't double tap and 
hold too hard, not much pressure is needed.
 
Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: 'Bluesman02' via VIPhone  
Sent: Monday, August 6, 2018 10:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Reordering locations in the native weather app question.

Hi all,

I want to put the locations I have in my weather app in alphabetical order. 
The problem is when I double tap and hold, as instructed it just takes me 
into the location which has focus.

Can anyone tell me how to achieve this.

Best regards,

Del 


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Re: the unlocking process, instructions for unlocking an iphone with sim card method

[Anna Dresner]

Hi arlene,

Thanks for your message. It's great that simply swapping the sim card is 
enough, once the phone is unlocked, and you don't actually have to restore from 
a backup.

All the best,
Anna




> On Aug 5, 2018, at 11:42 PM, Arlene  wrote:
> 
> Anna, and everyone, We successfully unlocked our se phones tonight, and here 
> are the instructions for anyone that would like to unlock their phone or 
> phones. here's the instructions, and if you need help, don't hessitate to ask:
> instructions for unlocking an iphone with sim card method
> Note, these instructions are for unlocking iphones.
> Before you follow these instructions, you need to contact your carrier to ask 
> them to unlock your phone.
> If they say yes, and  your phone is an iphone then the carrier will contact 
> apple, and we believe the next email you receive is from apple, in which you 
> will receive unlock information,
> including codes that you might need. Actually in our emails that we received, 
> it gave instructions of 2 ways to unlock the phone. As a rule they
> want you to wait at least 72 hours after receiving the emails with the unlock 
> information before unlocking your phone. this is in order to make sure the 
> apple servers have got the right information on them.
> Step 1
> Pop the sim card out of the phone that you want to unlock,
> The sim card will be located on the right edge of the phone if it is a iphone 
> se.
> It might be on the right edge on other iphones, but not having another model
> I don't have thaat information. This is how you'll know when you find the sim 
> card,
> There will be a tiny hole, so small
> that you'll need a paper clip or even something smaller to put
> in the hole. Make sure the phone is sturdy in your hand or on it's edge on 
> something sturdy,
> Unfold the paper clip a little so it will insert into the hole.
> push down on the paper clip. Don't worry, it will take a little pressure,
> but you'll hear a tiny pop, that's the sim card tray that is holding the sim 
> card, releasing.
> Next, very carefully slide it out, it wil come all the way out.
> The sim card and the tray is so tiny, it would be best to do this on 
> something in case you accidentally drop the tray or sim card.
> This way if you do this over a table for example if you accidentally dropped 
> the sim card or tray, you would be able to easily find it on the table.
> The sim card and tray only works one way, so make sure you have the tray and 
> the sim card correct before inserting it back into the phone.
> If you pay attention to what you're doing, you won't make a mistake
> because it's all keyed to work a certain way. If you do have problems you 
> could always call for help.
> Now for step 2
> Take the sim card out of the other iphone that's on a different cell carrier 
> network,
> step3
> insert this sim card into the phone you want to unlock.
> the phone will say, activation required. you might need to use your finger to 
> read that, if it doesn't say it right away.
> Then find the dismiss button, double tap the dismiss button
> As soon as you double tap on the dismiss button, if all is successful the 
> phone  will say
> set up, update completed. your iphone was updated successfuly,
> there's just a few more steps to do and you'll be done.
> then you'll have a continue button, and tap on continue,
> then you might here the phone say back button, and the phone will continue to 
> say, that it might take a few minutes to update your iphone. In our 
> experience it took less than a minute to get done.
> Then it's all done and everything  goes to your main screen, and you'll find 
> that you're on the network of the other carrier, and that way you'll know 
> your phone is unlocked.
> now You can pop either cards  in your phone and if everything went well, 
> either card in your phone would work on either carrier.
> Since at this time we don't have itunes installed anywhere this was really 
> quick and easy, but the guy that did it,  my Wayne, he's a good hardwhere 
> man. Me, Arlene, I would have been hessitant to do this operation.
> If you decide to do this, if you need help, don't hessitate to ask.
> 
> 
> 
> Arlene
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Anna Dresner" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2018 9:59 AM
> Subject: Re: going through the process of unlocking a phone
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Is there a way to find out whether a phone is unlocked or not? I bought mine 
> from Apple last fall, specifying AT as the carrier. It's an iPhone X. I 
> seem to remember hearing that these phones came unlocked, but I'm not sure. 
> I'd rather not have to do the restore from backup if it's not necessary.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 5, 2018, at 12:54 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> T
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Re: My apple TV needs an accessible tv set.

[Mary Otten]

Is the voice on that TV the same as the one on the Roku stick? We have one of 
those, and I actually found a voice almost not understandable. I’ve been using 
speech synthesizers for a long time, all the way back to dos. So it’s a great 
mystery to me why these folks who make these TV boxes accessible can’t find a 
way to give us a voice that’s really clear. Amazon wins hands-down in my 
opinion in that regard. Just like with the Roku TV, switching ports is totally 
accessible on the Amazon one, and you can also named him whatever you want, 
which I didn’t bother doing. You also have voice control of the TV, including 
turning it off and on, switching ports, launching movies or apps whatever. The 
Amazon TV is more expensive than that Roku. So if you’re satisfied with the 
voice, it sounds like it could be a good way to go. I just couldn’t get past 
the voice if it’s the same as the one on stick that we have.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 6, 2018, at 8:46 AM,   
> wrote:
> 
> I do have one and love it. It is an Insignia in25 roku tv from best buy. It 
> only cost around $150. They have bigger ones but this one meets my needs 
> perfectly. The
> Spectrum roku app is very accessible as is tunein. The text-to-speech voice 
> isn’t real great but works for me fine. It has 3 hdmi ports and a fiber-optic 
> out for running sound bars or our Yamaha receiver which has fiberoptic ports. 
> It has a composit or component port (I can’t keep the two straight). I like 
> the set-up very much.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fred 
> Olver
> Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 10:43 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: My apple TV needs an accessible tv set.
>  
> I have an Apple TV and i want to pair it with an accessible TV. If you have 
> one and are extremely pleased with it I would like to know about it so I can 
> get one too.
>  
> Fred Olver
> Fred Olver
> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/fred.olver
> Skype: Fred.olver1
> For more information about my book which is available in accessible formats 
> go to: http://www.dealingwithvisionloss.com also available as a kindel 
> download from amazon.
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Reordering locations in the native weather app question.

['Bluesman02' via VIPhone]

Hi all,

I want to put the locations I have in my weather app in alphabetical order. 
The problem is when I double tap and hold, as instructed it just takes me 
into the location which has focus.


Can anyone tell me how to achieve this.

Best regards,

Del 



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RE: deleting an app

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Reggie,

Not sure what you mean by "go in the cloud", all apps are in the cloud so to 
speak since they are all in the app store and your Apple Id remembers all apps 
which have ever been installed on your phone.
You can check this by opening the App Store app, go to the "Updates" tab and 
then at the top find the "My Account" button. Find the "Purchased" button and 
then the "My purchases".
After you tap on this you see all apps you ever purchased, by default the "All" 
filter is selected, but you can also select "Not on this iPhone" and now you 
only see apps which you purcased or downloaded at some point but which are 
currently not installed on your phone.
If you delete an app from your phone it is gone from your phone completely, but 
I don't think it will delete automatically from say your iPad if you have one. 
Whether it will automatically download to your iPad depends on whether you 
select that option in Settings > iTunes and App Store, but if it is selected it 
will automatically download to your iPad at the time you download it to your 
iPhone not when you delete it.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of regina 
alvarado
Sent: Monday, August 6, 2018 7:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: deleting an app

When an app is deleted does it actually delete or just go into the cloud? If 
the app goes into the cloud, will it download on another device? 


Reggie and Lex
God said, "I need somebody strong enough to pull sleds and find bombs, yet 
gentle enough to love babies and lead the blind. Somebody who will spend all 
day on a couch with a resting head and supportive eyes to lift the spirits of a 
broken heart." So God made a dog.

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Re: Facebook on the Phone

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Glad you are sorted.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 6 Aug 2018, at 18:00, 'Linda Gaitskell' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Got it now thanks for such detailed instructions.
>  
> Linda
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2018 9:01 PM
> Subject: RE: Facebook on the Phone
> 
> The Facebook Menu button/tab used to be the “More” button/tab.
>  
>  
> From: 'Linda Gaitskell' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2018 10:13 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Facebook on the Phone
>  
> On the bottom of my screen I have 5 tabs, newsfeed, friend requests, market 
> place, notifications and facebook menu but no more button.  I have tried 
> looking in each tab to see if there was a more button there but still can't 
> find it.  I'm using iphone SE and everything is toatally up to date.
>  
> Linda
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Kathy Kalaluhi
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2018 6:23 PM
> Subject: RE: Facebook on the Phone
>  
> Hi
> Here is how to initiate a conversation on Facebook with one of your friends. 
>  
> On the bottom of the screen, there are tabs for Newsfeed, Watch i.e. videos, 
> Requests, Market Place, Notifications and More.  Double tap on the more 
> button.  This will bring you to your personal Home page. 
>  
> Double tap on the friends button.  Just swipe right going down the page until 
> you hear friends.  Then select the friend you want to write something on 
> their wall.  Double tap the friend’s name and it will take you to their 
> personal home page.  Swiping left to right going down the page, you will come 
> to a field that will read as “write something on this page or post on their 
> wall.  Double tap that field and the keyboard pops up and you can type the 
> message and then click or double tap post when you are done.  If there is no 
> field read aloud to write something, it is usually because that friend has 
> their privacy settings set so that no one can write on their wall. 
>  
> There is a work around for this.  You can write on your wall and tag that 
> person in the post or simply type their name in the field.  For instance, you 
> can double tap at the top of your newsfeed where it says check in or write 
> something.  Then begin typing Mary Smith how about those Steelers (lol).  
> Then tap post. Rather double tap post. 
>  
> One thing I did not mention in my previous email is opening posts that 
> contain more than one name.  I sometimes get a post of a video and it reads 
> as an example, Mary Smith and John Brown shared a video.  Simply one finger 
> double tap does not open the post.  I figured out that I had to double tap 
> and hold on the second tap in order to open the post so I could view the 
> video.  It sometimes takes a couple of tries to get it to open. 
>  
> If you have any more questions, I am happy to answer if I am able.
> Kathy
>  
> From: 'Linda Gaitskell' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2018 10:01 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Facebook on the Phone
>  
> Great tip about reading text in a picture, I had always asumed this was 
> something we just couldn't read.
>  
> The main thing i don't know about facebook is how to initiate a conversation 
> with someone.  Once a conversation has started I can reply or like but can't 
> start the conversation so instructions on how to do that would be great.
>  
> Thanks Linda
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Kathy Kalaluhi
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2018 3:37 PM
> Subject: RE: Facebook on the Phone
>  
> Hi
> I use Facebook on my phone all the time so I will try my best to describe 
> some tips and gestures to you through writing. 
>  
> First, you simply one finger double tap to open a post where you can view the 
> like button, comment, and share button.  You can also view any comments 
> people made. 
>  
> Second, if you do not want to view the post, you can double tap with two 
> fingerts to bring up a menu of like, react, comment, share, and more.  The 
> more button provides other options such as saving the post, unfollowing a 
> post, hiding a post etc.  If you just want to react to a post, single tap 
> with one finger on the react choice and another menu pops up with like, love, 
> wow, haha, sad, and angry.  Single finger double tap on the emotion you want 
> to select. 
>  
> Pictures with text in the image are not readable with voice over.  However, I 
> heard this tip the other day when listening to one of the Tech talk podcasts 
> on accessible Worl.  You open the post and then put the focus on the picture 
> and then three finger single tap and a description of the picture and some or 
> most or all of the text is read.  You must be running the most current 
> version of IOS for this to work. 
>  
> Sharing a post is simple.  You can choose to share now with your 

Re: Facebook on the Phone

['Linda Gaitskell' via VIPhone]

Got it now thanks for such detailed instructions.

Linda

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2018 9:01 PM
  Subject: RE: Facebook on the Phone


  The Facebook Menu button/tab used to be the “More” button/tab.

   

   

  From: 'Linda Gaitskell' via VIPhone  
  Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2018 10:13 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Facebook on the Phone

   

  On the bottom of my screen I have 5 tabs, newsfeed, friend requests, market 
place, notifications and facebook menu but no more button.  I have tried 
looking in each tab to see if there was a more button there but still can't 
find it.  I'm using iphone SE and everything is toatally up to date.

   

  Linda

   

- Original Message - 

From: Kathy Kalaluhi 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2018 6:23 PM

Subject: RE: Facebook on the Phone

 

Hi 

Here is how to initiate a conversation on Facebook with one of your 
friends.  

 

On the bottom of the screen, there are tabs for Newsfeed, Watch i.e. 
videos, Requests, Market Place, Notifications and More.  Double tap on the more 
button.  This will bring you to your personal Home page.  

 

Double tap on the friends button.  Just swipe right going down the page 
until you hear friends.  Then select the friend you want to write something on 
their wall.  Double tap the friend’s name and it will take you to their 
personal home page.  Swiping left to right going down the page, you will come 
to a field that will read as “write something on this page or post on their 
wall.  Double tap that field and the keyboard pops up and you can type the 
message and then click or double tap post when you are done.  If there is no 
field read aloud to write something, it is usually because that friend has 
their privacy settings set so that no one can write on their wall.  

 

There is a work around for this.  You can write on your wall and tag that 
person in the post or simply type their name in the field.  For instance, you 
can double tap at the top of your newsfeed where it says check in or write 
something.  Then begin typing Mary Smith how about those Steelers (lol).  Then 
tap post. Rather double tap post.  

 

One thing I did not mention in my previous email is opening posts that 
contain more than one name.  I sometimes get a post of a video and it reads as 
an example, Mary Smith and John Brown shared a video.  Simply one finger double 
tap does not open the post.  I figured out that I had to double tap and hold on 
the second tap in order to open the post so I could view the video.  It 
sometimes takes a couple of tries to get it to open.  

 

If you have any more questions, I am happy to answer if I am able. 

Kathy 

 

From: 'Linda Gaitskell' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2018 10:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Facebook on the Phone

 

Great tip about reading text in a picture, I had always asumed this was 
something we just couldn't read.

 

The main thing i don't know about facebook is how to initiate a 
conversation with someone.  Once a conversation has started I can reply or like 
but can't start the conversation so instructions on how to do that would be 
great.

 

Thanks Linda

 

  - Original Message - 

  From: Kathy Kalaluhi 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2018 3:37 PM

  Subject: RE: Facebook on the Phone

   

  Hi 

  I use Facebook on my phone all the time so I will try my best to describe 
some tips and gestures to you through writing.  

   

  First, you simply one finger double tap to open a post where you can view 
the like button, comment, and share button.  You can also view any comments 
people made.  

   

  Second, if you do not want to view the post, you can double tap with two 
fingerts to bring up a menu of like, react, comment, share, and more.  The more 
button provides other options such as saving the post, unfollowing a post, 
hiding a post etc.  If you just want to react to a post, single tap with one 
finger on the react choice and another menu pops up with like, love, wow, haha, 
sad, and angry.  Single finger double tap on the emotion you want to select.  

   

  Pictures with text in the image are not readable with voice over.  
However, I heard this tip the other day when listening to one of the Tech talk 
podcasts on accessible Worl.  You open the post and then put the focus on the 
picture and then three finger single tap and a description of the picture and 
some or most or all of the text is read.  You must be running the most current 
version of IOS for this to work.  

   

  Sharing a post is simple.  You can choose to share now with your 

RE: Replying Directly to Sender

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Bill,

It is easy to find somebody's email simply by pressing Shift+Tab a few times 
when the message is open until you get to the "From" field. I did this in your 
message and after pressing Control+A and then Control+C, here is what I get if 
I paste the content of the clipboard:

'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone 
Yours is another example where your email is not part of that address, here is 
an example from a message Donna posted:
viphone@googlegroups.com; on behalf of; Donna 

As you can see this "From" field contains the "on behalf of" followed by the 
person's email address. I don't know what those of you where the address 
doesn't show up do differently, but even if you reply to the email the address 
is simply not there, here is the header when I press Control+R to reply to your 
email:

-Original Message-
From: 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone  
Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2018 10:42 PM
To: viPhone  
Subject: Replying Directly to Sender

Only the Viphone email is given, if I wanted to reply directly to you I have no 
way of doing so whereas with Donna's and most other posts I can just go into 
the From field, put the Jaws cursor on their email, right click or press 
Shift+F10 and select copy, this will copy only their email address to the 
clipboard not the entire line which I pasted above and selected with Control+A.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone  
Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2018 10:42 PM
To: viPhone  
Subject: Replying Directly to Sender

 I’ve noticed a couple messages on this list commenting that, when someone 
wants to reply directly to the sender of a specific e-mail message, they can’t 
find that person’s address.  Here’s a somewhat clumsy “work around."


First, reply to the message in question.

Then, locate the “Originator Line” and you should find that the e-mail address 
of the person sending the message to which you wish to reply is listed.  Copy 
that direct e-mail address, go back to the “To” field - deleting the list 
address and paste the sender’s address there instead.

NOTE: The above tip presumes a degree of proficiency with selecting, copying 
and pasting text.  If you are interested in using the tip but are uncomfortable 
with text selection feel free to contact me directly at:

wfgal...@gmail.com

*No, the above address is not the one I’ve registered with on this list, but 
that address gets much less traffic and will be much more convenient for me to 
peruse!

- Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
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Re: update on the google groups saga

['Rebecca Ilniski' via VIPhone]

Thanks so much Mark. Thank you all for bearing with me. I will be excited to 
come back when I return from training. 

Rebecca Ilniski
email: rilni...@gmail.com
Twitter: applegirl1994

On Aug 6, 2018, at 12:46 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Rebecca,  

Okay, I had the incorrect email address for you.  

I can, in fact, see your iCloud email address in the database.  

I am posting this before I set you to no mail status so that everyone can see 
this reply.  

I will now contact you, off-list, as well.

Mark


From: 'Rebecca Ilniski' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2018 9:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: update on the google groups saga

Hi all.  I decided that since my address doesn’t show up in the membership list 
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if I’d get double messages that way or if it will correct the issue that I’m 
having.  We shall see.  It was just a thought as when I’d go online logging in 
to the google groups web site under my icloud account that I set up there it 
doesn’t show me subscribed to any groups at all.  
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RE: update on the google groups saga

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Hello Rebecca,  

Okay, I had the incorrect email address for you.  

I can, in fact, see your iCloud email address in the database.  

I am posting this before I set you to no mail status so that everyone can see 
this reply.  

I will now contact you, off-list, as well.

Mark


From: 'Rebecca Ilniski' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2018 9:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: update on the google groups saga

Hi all.  I decided that since my address doesn’t show up in the membership list 
that I would try and rejoin and then try to go nomail from there.  Don’t know 
if I’d get double messages that way or if it will correct the issue that I’m 
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to the google groups web site under my icloud account that I set up there it 
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Re: My apple TV needs an accessible tv set.

[Mary Otten]

We actually have two accessible TVs, and I really like the one we just recently 
purchased. It is the Toshiba 42 inch fire edition, so it has Alexa built in and 
it’s beautifully accessible. We have a Samsung that we’ve had for a couple of 
years now, it has the voice guidance, but the voice is not to my taste 
particularly and it’s just not as good an experience as the screen reader with 
the Fire TV.
Mary


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> On Aug 6, 2018, at 8:46 AM,   
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> 
> I do have one and love it. It is an Insignia in25 roku tv from best buy. It 
> only cost around $150. They have bigger ones but this one meets my needs 
> perfectly. The
> Spectrum roku app is very accessible as is tunein. The text-to-speech voice 
> isn’t real great but works for me fine. It has 3 hdmi ports and a fiber-optic 
> out for running sound bars or our Yamaha receiver which has fiberoptic ports. 
> It has a composit or component port (I can’t keep the two straight). I like 
> the set-up very much.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fred 
> Olver
> Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 10:43 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: My apple TV needs an accessible tv set.
>  
> I have an Apple TV and i want to pair it with an accessible TV. If you have 
> one and are extremely pleased with it I would like to know about it so I can 
> get one too.
>  
> Fred Olver
> Fred Olver
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RE: My apple TV needs an accessible tv set.

[llumpkin]

Also, it has antenna and cable connections. You can name all the ports what 
you’d like them to be and changing ports is completely accessible.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fred 
Olver
Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 10:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: My apple TV needs an accessible tv set.

 

I have an Apple TV and i want to pair it with an accessible TV. If you have one 
and are extremely pleased with it I would like to know about it so I can get 
one too.

 

Fred Olver

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update on the google groups saga

['Rebecca Ilniski' via VIPhone]

Hi all.  I decided that since my address doesn't show up in the membership
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Don't know if I'd get double messages that way or if it will correct the
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Re: My apple TV needs an accessible tv set.

[Joney]

I bought the small TV, which is 22 inches, which also has a DVD player in it. 
It also works for cars or in a RV. So that others in the family could use it at 
some point as well. It cost me $130. It works just fine with the Apple TV. If 
you have cable attached as well, you need an HD splitter. I have both of them 
hooked to the splitter and the splitter into the TV and I have cable and 
apples. :-)

Joney
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He will lead you through it."  

> On Aug 6, 2018, at 11:47 AM,  
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> Fred, they also make an accessible DVD player which I paid $20 for.
>  
>  
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> Olver
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: My apple TV needs an accessible tv set.
>  
> I have an Apple TV and i want to pair it with an accessible TV. If you have 
> one and are extremely pleased with it I would like to know about it so I can 
> get one too.
>  
> Fred Olver
> Fred Olver
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RE: My apple TV needs an accessible tv set.

[llumpkin]

Fred, they also make an accessible DVD player which I paid $20 for.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fred 
Olver
Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 10:43 AM
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Subject: My apple TV needs an accessible tv set.

 

I have an Apple TV and i want to pair it with an accessible TV. If you have one 
and are extremely pleased with it I would like to know about it so I can get 
one too.

 

Fred Olver

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RE: My apple TV needs an accessible tv set.

[llumpkin]

I do have one and love it. It is an Insignia in25 roku tv from best buy. It 
only cost around $150. They have bigger ones but this one meets my needs 
perfectly. The

Spectrum roku app is very accessible as is tunein. The text-to-speech voice 
isn’t real great but works for me fine. It has 3 hdmi ports and a fiber-optic 
out for running sound bars or our Yamaha receiver which has fiberoptic ports. 
It has a composit or component port (I can’t keep the two straight). I like the 
set-up very much.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fred 
Olver
Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 10:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: My apple TV needs an accessible tv set.

 

I have an Apple TV and i want to pair it with an accessible TV. If you have one 
and are extremely pleased with it I would like to know about it so I can get 
one too.

 

Fred Olver

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My apple TV needs an accessible tv set.

[Fred Olver]

I have an Apple TV and i want to pair it with an accessible TV. If you have one 
and are extremely pleased with it I would like to know about it so I can get 
one too.

Fred Olver
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deleting an app

[regina alvarado]

When an app is deleted does it actually delete or just go into the cloud? If 
the app goes into the cloud, will it download on another device? 


Reggie and Lex
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Re: iPad, printer, keyboard case

[Russ Kiehne]

   IN my case, I bought a ipad mini 4 a couple of years back because it has 
better sound, more volume and battery life than my 5th generation ipod 
touch.


-Original Message- 
From: Carolyn Arnold

Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2018 1:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad, printer, keyboard case

I agree from the point of a totally blind person. I had a big tablet, sold 
it. I was using the screen about as much as the keyboard, but like a small 
screen, which is why I like my SE.


I wanted to get a big Apple tablet for my husband, because he uses his 
Kindle Fire so much, charges a couple of times a day, but he says he likes 
the Kindle, is not interested in an iPad right now.


Best regards,

Carolyn

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2018 2:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad, printer, keyboard case

Hi Reggie,

Why do you think an iPad will offer you a better experience than your 
iPhone? You can just as easily pair a keyboard with your iPhone and buy an 
Airprint compatible printer, just about all HP printers are and many others, 
just look for "Airprint".
What is the cost of an iPad Pro 9.7 inch with 256Gb of storage and the 
keyboard you mentioned in the US? Probably at least $1,000? You can buy a 
basic but completely capable Windows 10 laptop for half that and if you use 
NVDA youy wouldn't even have to pay for a screenreader. Just my two cents 
worth. Before you spend all that money I'd make an appointment at an Apple 
store and spend an hour or so with an iPad Pro 9.7 inch and see if you even 
like it, a lot of completely blind people find that large of a screen 
difficult when it comes to orientation or knowing where to look for what on 
the screen.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
regina alvarado

Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2018 12:10 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: iPad, printer, keyboard case

So, this is what I am thinking. I want the ability to print. I want the 
smallest screen I can get. I use my devices for apps, email, and messages. 
Instead of getting a newer mac and because I am used to IOS I am thinking of 
an iPad pro 9.7 inch screen, 128 or 256 gigs storage and Apple's smart 
keyboard and a printer that is compatible with this device.


1 Would an newer iPad be compatible with any printers?
2 if I have to go to iPad pro or even if iPad would do printing, what 
printer should i buy that is accessible?
3 Are there any iPad cases with built in keyboards that would automatically 
connect with either device or do they all have a number to put in?
Thank you for any thoughts. There is just so much out there, and the most 
important questions are not answered so asking here.



Reggie and Lex
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gentle enough to love babies and lead the blind. Somebody who will spend all 
day on a couch with a resting head and supportive eyes to lift the spirits 
of a broken heart." So God made a dog.


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Re: Facebook on the Phone

[Donna]

Having text in a photo being read with the three finger single tap on a photo 
on Facebook is hit or miss. I haven’t had any success having text on photos 
read with the latest Facebook update. Wouldn’t surprise me if the feature has 
been broken with the latest update. 

Donna
> 
> I have tried the three finger tap on a photo with text many many times and 
> all it ever says is bottom of page. I have the latest version of Facebook in 
> the latest iOS version. Does this actually work for other people?
> 
> 
> Sent from Sherrie's iPhone
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 5, 2018, at 7:09 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I do too, and my daughter-in-law really does. 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Carolyn 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2018 4:45 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Facebook on the Phone
>> 
>> Just FYI, you can use your phone when it’s plugged in, it’s perfectly safe 
>> and I do I tall the time.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: 'Linda Gaitskell' via VIPhone  
>> Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2018 1:42 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Facebook on the Phone
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Sieghard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> thanks for such detailed instructions.  My phone is on charge at the moment 
>> so will have another go tomorrow and will report back.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Linda
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   - Original Message - 
>> 
>>   From: Sieghard Weitzel   
>> 
>>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
>> 
>>   Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2018 9:19 PM
>> 
>>   Subject: RE: Facebook on the Phone
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   Hi Linda,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   After you double tap the Facebook Menu tab at the bottom right, go to the 
>> top of the screen and swipe right until you hear “Show Profile and Pages” 
>> button.
>> 
>>   If you double tap on this it will change and now say “Hide profiles and 
>> Pages”, now swipe right until you hear “your Profile”, and double tap on 
>> that.
>> 
>>   If I do this Voiceover seems to focus on my cover photo, then if I swipe 
>> right I get my Profile picture and if I swipe right again I get buttons to 
>> “edit cover photo” and “edit profile picture”.
>> 
>>   If I continue to swipe right I hear my name, then “Add temporary Bio”, a 
>> “Post” button” and then “Edit Profile” and “View As”
>> 
>>   Continueing to swipe right I hear some information I put in about my 
>> school and where I am from and all that, eventually I get to 3 tabs:
>> 
>>   About tab, 1 of 3
>> 
>>   Photos tab,2 of 3
>> 
>>   Friends tab, 3 of 3
>> 
>>   If you double tap the friends tab it will show you all your friends.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   As a quicker method you can also get there by finding the “Show Top 
>> Shortcuts” button which is just one swipe to the right of the “Show Profile 
>> and Pages” button.
>> 
>>   If you double tap the “Show top shortcuts” button it again becomes a “Hide 
>> Top Shortcuts” button and now shortcuts are shown underneath, I get the 
>> following buttons
>> 
>>   Most Recent
>> 
>>   Friends
>> 
>>   Groups
>> 
>>   Market Place
>> 
>>   Events
>> 
>>   Memories
>> 
>>   Saved
>> 
>>   Pages
>> 
>>   Local
>> 
>>   Feeds 
>> 
>>   Nearby Friends
>> 
>>   Recommendations
>> 
>>   Obviously if you double tap on the “Friends” button you also see the list 
>> of your friends and it’s a lot easier and faster to get there.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   Regards,
>> 
>>   Sieghard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   From: 'Linda Gaitskell' via VIPhone  
>>   Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2018 1:05 PM
>>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>   Subject: Re: Facebook on the Phone
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   Hi Cathy
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   i've tried all suggestions and although I can find my profile, nowhere in 
>> there or anywhere else can I seem to find a friends tab so i've abandon 
>> trying but thanks for trying to help.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   Linda
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   - Original Message - 
>> 
>>   From: Kathy Kalaluhi   
>> 
>>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
>> 
>>   Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2018 10:08 PM
>> 
>>   Subject: RE: Facebook on the Phone
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   Linda 
>> 
>>   I am sorry for the delay in replying.  I have a sinus infection I 
>> think and I fell asleep on the sofa.  Am trying to figure out if you figured 
>> out how to post on soneone’s wall. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   I am not running the latest IOS or Facebook on my phone.  I know I 
>> know….I have a stupid game I like that I am afraid I will lose once I 
>> update.  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   So when I said double tap on the more button, you said your tab says 
>> Facebook menu.  I assume it will have a selection to view your home page.  
>> Or, your profile where you can view items such as friends, events, groups 
>> you belong to your saved items etc.  On this page, you 

Re: Replying Directly to Sender

[Gordan Radić]

Hello Bill, hi to others!

This issue accured some time ago with many lists and list servers. It's 
got something to do with new option "Reply to list".


I mostly use Thunderbird on my Windows PC for e-mail sso I will type how 
I getting around this.


Classic "reply" option (CTRL + R) replies directly to the sender and 
noone else receives that message.


Reply to list option (CTRL + Shift + L) replies to the list and everyone 
subscribed get the message.


I have to say this works on some lists, on some lists not and very 
probably depends on the mailing list configuration. For this list it is 
working this way. Also, keyboard shortcuts I mentioned above works in 
Mozilla Thunderbird, really don't know are the same for other mail clients.


HTH!


S poštovanjem

Gordan Radić

06.08.2018 u 7:41, 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone je napisao/la:

  I’ve noticed a couple messages on this list commenting that, when someone wants to 
reply directly to the sender of a specific e-mail message, they can’t find that 
person’s address.  Here’s a somewhat clumsy “work around."


First, reply to the message in question.

Then, locate the “Originator Line” and you should find that the e-mail address 
of the person sending the message to which you wish to reply is listed.  Copy 
that direct e-mail address, go back to the “To” field - deleting the list 
address and paste the sender’s address there instead.

NOTE: The above tip presumes a degree of proficiency with selecting, copying 
and pasting text.  If you are interested in using the tip but are uncomfortable 
with text selection feel free to contact me directly at:

 wfgal...@gmail.com

*No, the above address is not the one I’ve registered with on this list, but 
that address gets much less traffic and will be much more convenient for me to 
peruse!

- Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
- "It is even harder for the average ape to believe that he has descended from 
man."
- US Editor and Satirist, H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)



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