RE: keyboard

[Christopher Chaltain]

I have the K-380 from Logitech, which I think has pretty distinctive keys, and 
I don't have any problem typing on it. I assume the K-480 and K-780, which are 
larger, would also have distinctive keys. The keys aren't as high as they would 
be on a desktop keyboard, but like I said, they're pretty distinctive. I 
haven't seen a dead flat keyboard, but I don't think the K-380 would fall into 
that category.

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-Original Message-
From: 'Linda Gaitskell' via VIPhone  
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2022 3:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: keyboard

Not sure if it was on this list but someone mention a bluetooth keyboar where 
the keys were more shaped thanthe usual absolutely dead flat which i don't find 
very nice for typing on.


Thanks

Linda


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RE: Apple Watch Screen

[Johna Gravitt]

Interesting, I have the series 6 and have two small scratches in the face.
Maybe I missed something, but is the series 7 made with a better face material?


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2022 10:01 PM
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Subject: Re: Apple Watch Screen

I just got my series 7 Last December and was rather paranoid about scratching 
it.  I was going to get some kind of protector for it but never did.  I do 
gardening, woodwork, moving cement blocks around for building projects and 
more.  I have not protected it at all and am amazed to tell you that there is 
no damage to it in any way.  I have had sighted friends look at it and they say 
the same thing.  No scratches.

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- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2022 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: Apple Watch Screen

I have had an Apple watch series 6 for about 18 months; and I've done yardwork, 
pruning bushes, banged into corners; and no scratches on the watch face.
I do not have a protective cover on it either.
Experience may vary.




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On Jun 26, 2022, at 4:48 PM, whdud...@gmail.com 
wrote:
You can get protective covers for them. I love my watch.

Ward


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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Subject: Apple Watch Screen

Hi all,
am thinking of getting an Apple Watch. I am wondering how strong the glass is 
on the watch? I often bang my braille watch on the corner of a door jam or 
corner of a wall etc. I have several scratches on the glass after 10 years of 
use. Does anybody have any advice on this?
Thanks for any help.
Max.

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Re: Apple Watch Screen

[Kay Malmquist]

I just got my series 7 Last December and was rather paranoid about 
scratching it.  I was going to get some kind of protector for it but never 
did.  I do gardening, woodwork, moving cement blocks around for building 
projects and more.  I have not protected it at all and am amazed to tell you 
that there is no damage to it in any way.  I have had sighted friends look 
at it and they say the same thing.  No scratches.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2022 8:39 PM
  Subject: Re: Apple Watch Screen


  I have had an Apple watch series 6 for about 18 months; and I've done 
yardwork, pruning bushes, banged into corners; and no scratches on the watch 
face.
  I do not have a protective cover on it either.
  Experience may vary.









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On Jun 26, 2022, at 4:48 PM, whdud...@gmail.com wrote:


You can get protective covers for them. I love my watch.

Ward


-Original Message-
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Agent086b
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2022 6:29 PM
To: viphone 
Subject: Apple Watch Screen

Hi all,
am thinking of getting an Apple Watch. I am wondering how strong the 
glass is on the watch? I often bang my braille watch on the corner of a door 
jam or corner of a wall etc. I have several scratches on the glass after 10 
years of use. Does anybody have any advice on this?
Thanks for any help.
Max.

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Re: Apple Watch Screen

[Richard Turner]

I have had an Apple watch series 6 for about 18 months; and I've done yardwork, 
pruning bushes, banged into corners; and no scratches on the watch face.
I do not have a protective cover on it either.
Experience may vary.





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> On Jun 26, 2022, at 4:48 PM, whdud...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> You can get protective covers for them. I love my watch.
> 
> Ward
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Agent086b
> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2022 6:29 PM
> To: viphone 
> Subject: Apple Watch Screen
> 
> Hi all,
> am thinking of getting an Apple Watch. I am wondering how strong the glass is 
> on the watch? I often bang my braille watch on the corner of a door jam or 
> corner of a wall etc. I have several scratches on the glass after 10 years of 
> use. Does anybody have any advice on this?
> Thanks for any help.
> Max.
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RE: Apple Watch Screen

[whdudley]

You can get protective covers for them. I love my watch.

Ward


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Agent086b
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2022 6:29 PM
To: viphone 
Subject: Apple Watch Screen

Hi all,
am thinking of getting an Apple Watch. I am wondering how strong the glass is 
on the watch? I often bang my braille watch on the corner of a door jam or 
corner of a wall etc. I have several scratches on the glass after 10 years of 
use. Does anybody have any advice on this?
Thanks for any help.
Max.

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Apple Watch Screen

[Agent086b]

Hi all,
am thinking of getting an Apple Watch. I am wondering how strong the glass is 
on the watch? I often bang my braille watch on the corner of a door jam or 
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use. Does anybody have any advice on this?
Thanks for any help.
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keyboard

['Linda Gaitskell' via VIPhone]

Not sure if it was on this list but someone mention a bluetooth keyboar 
where the keys were more shaped thanthe usual absolutely dead flat which 
i don't find very nice for typing on.



Thanks

Linda


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Re: labeling an unlabeled button

[Mike Arrigo]

Unfortunately, with these apps, there is no way to know how accessible it is 
without having the robot vacuum that the app controls. There are a couple apps 
where the controls to create your account and pair the robot to your network 
work fine but once you are in the main screen that controls the robot, that's 
where the unlabeled buttons are. And, I'm wondering if these screens are even 
part of the app or if they are downloaded from the robot itself rather than 
being part of the app. The reason I'm suspecting this is that the screens will 
not display at all if the robot is off line, and a recent firmware update on 
one of the robots changed how some of the controls were spoken, it's actually 
better now. Regardless of whether the screens are coded in the app or 
downloaded from the robot, I agree, things should be labeled, but again, there 
is no way to know unless you can ask someone else who has used voiceover with 
that particular bot.

> On Jun 26, 2022, at 1:44 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Except if the app is really poorly done all buttons may then have the label 
> you just entered for one button. I can't remember the app, but this happened 
> to me once so, if for example one button would say "start" then instead of 
> all buttons just saying "button" they then all say "start" which is just as 
> useless.
> I would not support a company by buying their expensive product if they can't 
> be even bothered to putting simple labels on their buttons.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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> 
> If you know what the buttons do, perform a two finger double tap and hold.  
> You can then enter the text for the button, swipe to and double tap Save and 
> your button will be labeled.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
>> On 26 Jun 2022, at 19:18, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone, I'm wondering if there is a way to label unlabeled buttons in 
>> an app. Unfortunately several of the buttons in some of the apps for my 
>> robot vacuums are not labeled and so Voiceover just says "button" when 
>> swiping to them, I've emailed the companies about this issue but who knows 
>> if they will address it so thought I might try labeling them myself.
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Re: labeling an unlabeled button

[Mike Arrigo]

Thanks, I know what some of them do at least so I will give that a try.

> On Jun 26, 2022, at 1:24 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
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> If you know what the buttons do, perform a two finger double tap and hold.  
> You can then enter the text for the button, swipe to and double tap Save and 
> your button will be labeled.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
>> On 26 Jun 2022, at 19:18, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone, I'm wondering if there is a way to label unlabeled buttons in 
>> an app. Unfortunately several of the buttons in some of the apps for my 
>> robot vacuums are not labeled and so Voiceover just says "button" when 
>> swiping to them, I've emailed the companies about this issue but who knows 
>> if they will address it so thought I might try labeling them myself.
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RE: labeling an unlabeled button

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Except if the app is really poorly done all buttons may then have the label you 
just entered for one button. I can't remember the app, but this happened to me 
once so, if for example one button would say "start" then instead of all 
buttons just saying "button" they then all say "start" which is just as useless.
I would not support a company by buying their expensive product if they can't 
be even bothered to putting simple labels on their buttons.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
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Subject: Re: labeling an unlabeled button

If you know what the buttons do, perform a two finger double tap and hold.  You 
can then enter the text for the button, swipe to and double tap Save and your 
button will be labeled.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 26 Jun 2022, at 19:18, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone, I'm wondering if there is a way to label unlabeled buttons in 
> an app. Unfortunately several of the buttons in some of the apps for my robot 
> vacuums are not labeled and so Voiceover just says "button" when swiping to 
> them, I've emailed the companies about this issue but who knows if they will 
> address it so thought I might try labeling them myself.
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RE: Trouble with VoiceDream/Bookshare

[Richard Turner]

That is not the audio book.
At least, the two audio books I have downloaded say DAISY 3 audio book.

HTH,

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-Original Message-
From: 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone  
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2022 11:24 AM
To: 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Trouble with VoiceDream/Bookshare

Now that I pay closer attention it also tells me that the files are in daisy 
all format.

> On Jun 26, 2022, at 11:09 AM, 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Lately when I choose a bookfrom Bookshare and if it’s labeled an audio file 
> it doesn’t load into VD and just sits in my list of books telling me that 
> it’s not avaiable.  I just downloaded the VD manual and it too is just 
> sitting in my list of books and tells me it’s not available.  I took a look 
> at my Bookshare account and I didn’t see anything wrong there.
> 
> 
> As always, thanks for any help!
> 
> 
> Kim
> 

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RE: Trouble with VoiceDream/Bookshare

[Richard Turner]

That usually means it hasn't fully downloaded.

With their audio books, they take a long time to download.
Don't close that screen until it says download complete.  That can be 5 to 10 
minutes or more depending on how long the book is.

If the manual is still waiting, it could be something else.
Try closing Voice Dream and all other apps out of the app switcher.

Then, open Voice Dream again and see where things are.
You may have to download them again.



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-Original Message-
From: 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone  
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2022 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Trouble with VoiceDream/Bookshare

Hello,

Lately when I choose a bookfrom Bookshare and if it’s labeled an audio file it 
doesn’t load into VD and just sits in my list of books telling me that it’s not 
avaiable.  I just downloaded the VD manual and it too is just sitting in my 
list of books and tells me it’s not available.  I took a look at my Bookshare 
account and I didn’t see anything wrong there.


As always, thanks for any help!


Kim

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Re: labeling an unlabeled button

[Malcolm Parfitt]

If you know what the buttons do, perform a two finger double tap and hold.  You 
can then enter the text for the button, swipe to and double tap Save and your 
button will be labeled.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 26 Jun 2022, at 19:18, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
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> an app. Unfortunately several of the buttons in some of the apps for my robot 
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Re: Trouble with VoiceDream/Bookshare

['Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone]

Now that I pay closer attention it also tells me that the files are in daisy 
all format.

> On Jun 26, 2022, at 11:09 AM, 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Lately when I choose a bookfrom Bookshare and if it’s labeled an audio file 
> it doesn’t load into VD and just sits in my list of books telling me that 
> it’s not avaiable.  I just downloaded the VD manual and it too is just 
> sitting in my list of books and tells me it’s not available.  I took a look 
> at my Bookshare account and I didn’t see anything wrong there.
> 
> 
> As always, thanks for any help!
> 
> 
> Kim
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labeling an unlabeled button

[Mike Arrigo]

Hi everyone, I'm wondering if there is a way to label unlabeled buttons in an 
app. Unfortunately several of the buttons in some of the apps for my robot 
vacuums are not labeled and so Voiceover just says "button" when swiping to 
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Trouble with VoiceDream/Bookshare

['Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone]

Hello,

Lately when I choose a bookfrom Bookshare and if it’s labeled an audio file it 
doesn’t load into VD and just sits in my list of books telling me that it’s not 
avaiable.  I just downloaded the VD manual and it too is just sitting in my 
list of books and tells me it’s not available.  I took a look at my Bookshare 
account and I didn’t see anything wrong there.


As always, thanks for any help!


Kim

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composing an email query

[anthonyborg001]

Thanks once again to all of you for your prompt help and explanation. 

Hth 

 

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Re: composing an email query

[Gerardo Corripio]

That's my feeling too: you're trying to type your eMail in the Subject field, 
which does have limited space. You need to right-flick past the Subject, or 
better yet, in the subject, do an Enter, which will move your cursor to the 
body of the email. Good luck!

Gera
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> El 26 jun 2022, a la(s) 7:42 a.m., Donna Casteen  
> escribió:
> 
> 
> Anthony, this does indeed sound strange. I have never seen a setting for this 
> type of email problem. My thought is that you are not actually composing your 
> email in the section of the body of the email is to be typed. From my first 
> time user of an iPhone days, I suspect that you are most likely accidently 
> writing your email in the Subject field of the new email. I found that double 
> tapping about an inch up from the bottom edge of the phone would place the 
> cursor in the correct place for me to compose my email. There are 4 areas in 
> an open email To, CC, double tapping on this will open a Bcc, Subject & main 
> body of the email.
> 
> Donna
>  
>> 
>> 
>> Hi
>>  
>> I’m noticing on my iphone that whenever i compose or reply an email it has 
>> to be a short one because there would be no space left. So, can anyone 
>> explain to me if there there is a way how to increase the space through the 
>> settings please?
>> Or it is a standard thing.
>> Thanks in advance for any help.
>>  
>> Anthony
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Re: composing an email query

[Donna Casteen]

Anthony, this does indeed sound strange. I have never seen a setting for this 
type of email problem. My thought is that you are not actually composing your 
email in the section of the body of the email is to be typed. From my first 
time user of an iPhone days, I suspect that you are most likely accidently 
writing your email in the Subject field of the new email. I found that double 
tapping about an inch up from the bottom edge of the phone would place the 
cursor in the correct place for me to compose my email. There are 4 areas in an 
open email To, CC, double tapping on this will open a Bcc, Subject & main body 
of the email.

Donna
 
> 
> 
> Hi
>  
> I’m noticing on my iphone that whenever i compose or reply an email it has to 
> be a short one because there would be no space left. So, can anyone explain 
> to me if there there is a way how to increase the space through the settings 
> please?
> Or it is a standard thing.
> Thanks in advance for any help.
>  
> Anthony
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RE: Oh Where, Oh Where Has My Home Page Gone

[Debby]

Hi Bill,

It happened to my sister one time and we called Apple accessibility to get it 
back. Here's how to get it back:

Go to any app and flick up to edit and double tap to get in edit mode.

Go toward the bottom of the screen just above the dock to the page numbers and 
double tap.

Look above the page numbers, and you will see a horizontal list of each page 
with an indication of either "visible" or Hidden." 

Find your "hidden" page and double tap. It should turn back to "visible."

Exit out of edit mode. All should be fine and dandy!

Take care and stay safe!

Debby 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Bill 
Gallik
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2022 2:43 AM
To: viPhone  
Subject: Oh Where, Oh Where Has My Home Page Gone

I have no idea what I did for this to happen, but my home page has disappeared. 
 Actually, I had 7 home pages, but the first one and all the apps I use 
frequently apparently have been transferred to the library.  I say this because 
I used Siri to launch an app that I know for a certainty to be on that original 
Home Page #1.

Couple of questions here:

1) How can I get my Home Page #1 back to normal display?

2) Isn’t it a bit strange that a person could hide anything in the library 
without being prompted as to whether or not such an action is really desired?

I still have no idea how I manage to transfer an entire home page to the 
library. SHISH!!!

* * * * * * * * * * * *
- Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
- "The Early Bird may get the worm,”
- “But the Second Mouse gets the cheese!”



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Oh Where, Oh Where Has My Home Page Gone

[Bill Gallik]

I have no idea what I did for this to happen, but my home page has disappeared. 
 Actually, I had 7 home pages, but the first one and all the apps I use 
frequently apparently have been transferred to the library.  I say this because 
I used Siri to launch an app that I know for a certainty to be on that original 
Home Page #1.

Couple of questions here:

1) How can I get my Home Page #1 back to normal display?

2) Isn’t it a bit strange that a person could hide anything in the library 
without being prompted as to whether or not such an action is really desired?

I still have no idea how I manage to transfer an entire home page to the 
library. SHISH!!!

* * * * * * * * * * * *
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- "The Early Bird may get the worm,”
- “But the Second Mouse gets the cheese!”



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