Re: More iPad mini 4 questions

[the . big . apple . fan]

Hi, I know this isn’t a free app but I use weather gods. It’s 
really worth the money. When you first open it you will here all of the weather 
sounds like rain, wind. 



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On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 10:58 PM -0500, "Jennie Facer"  
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Hi Jen,
I'm not sure where it was posted, either through the iDevices list or the Apple 
411 list, Rita Howels did a good explanation of how to do this. For the life of 
me, I can't remember how she said to delete bookmarks. I hope you can find it. 
Sorry I'm not much more of a help.
Jenn 

Jenn and Kumi
On Jan 13, 2018, at 1:24 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:

I just use the weather in NFB Newsline.

On Jan 13, 2018, at 1:17 PM, Jen .  wrote:
Hi,  So I discovered when adding all my apps to my iPad mini 4 that the iPads 
don’t come with the weather app like th iPhone and iPod touch. Can you download 
the native weather app.  If so, what would you search for since typing weather 
gave me a bunch of results. If not can any recommend a good but free weather 
app if possible that works with voiceover and can be used in Canada. Next I’m 
assuming there’s no flashlight either since I’m not noticing one. Next when I 
plug my iPad mini 4 in to my windows pc the device connects and everything but 
it says it’s not charging. Should I be concerned as my iPhone and iPod touch 
charge just fine when connected to the same USB port. Finally I’ve done this 
before but don’t remember what I did but how do you get rid of the yahoo, 
apple, etc. Search engines that show up on your device when you first get it. 
Thanks. Jen 
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Anyone have the link for Shape tones

[Jen .]

Hi sorry I don’t remember the developer and maybe their app has been removed 
but I am not able to find it in the App Store so wondering if anyone has the 
link for it.
Jen

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Re: More iPad mini 4 questions

[Jennie Facer]

Hi Jen,

I'm not sure where it was posted, either through the iDevices list or the Apple 
411 list, Rita Howels did a good explanation of how to do this. For the life of 
me, I can't remember how she said to delete bookmarks. I hope you can find it. 
Sorry I'm not much more of a help.

Jenn 

Jenn and Kumi

> On Jan 13, 2018, at 1:24 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> I just use the weather in NFB Newsline.
> 
> 
>> On Jan 13, 2018, at 1:17 PM, Jen .  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,  
>> So I discovered when adding all my apps to my iPad mini 4 that the iPads 
>> don’t come with the weather app like th iPhone and iPod touch. 
>> Can you download the native weather app.  If so, what would you search for 
>> since typing weather gave me a bunch of results. 
>> If not can any recommend a good but free weather app if possible that works 
>> with voiceover and can be used in Canada. 
>> Next I’m assuming there’s no flashlight either since I’m not noticing one. 
>> Next when I plug my iPad mini 4 in to my windows pc the device connects and 
>> everything but it says it’s not charging. 
>> Should I be concerned as my iPhone and iPod touch charge just fine when 
>> connected to the same USB port. 
>> Finally I’ve done this before but don’t remember what I did but how do you 
>> get rid of the yahoo, apple, etc. Search engines that show up on your device 
>> when you first get it. 
>> Thanks. 
>> Jen 
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18 Brutally Honest Confessions From A Former Apple Store Employee, BuzzFeed

[M. Taylor]

18 Brutally Honest Confessions From A Former Apple Store Employee. We see a
lot of nudes.
By Stephen LaConteJanuary 13, 2018, at 1:16 p.m.

1.
Sometimes we honestly have no idea WTF is wrong with your device. 
 
2.
We see a lot of pictures you might not want us to see. We would never snoop
through a person's device, ever. But sometimes people don't realize what
they've left open on their screen when they hand it to us. 

3.
We know when you're lying, even if we don't say it. You can tell us you
didn't drop your phone in water, but the liquid indicators inside your phone
beg to differ.

4.
If you're looking for special favors, manners go a long way. Lots of people
think they can scream their way into getting a free thing. It rarely works.

5.
But most of the time, we have to play by the rules no matter what. Even the
nicest folks. Sorry.

6.
Employees aren't there to upsell you on something you don't need. Our job is
to match you to the device that's right for you, even if it's the cheapest
model.

7.
And, tbh, we don't actually care if you buy anything. Most employees don't
work on commission, anyway!

8.
We don't actually give a shit when you mess with the display devices. Go
wild! 
 
9.
...Because all those screens automatically reset themselves overnight,
anyway. Yeah, there's no way we'd be able to catch all those pranks
ourselves.

10.
We know that some people just come in to check their email or Facebook, and
we don't mind! We've got hundreds of devices lying around - go ahead and use
them!

11.
Yes, we've heard the "Are you really a GENIUS???" joke a thousand times
before. But we'll keep fake-laughing every time someone makes it.

12.
The store can get really busy - even when it looks totally empty. At any
given moment, there could be dozens of people waiting on a Genius Bar
appointment. They're not necessarily in the store!

13.
We really don't know any of the juicy corporate secrets. We aren't lying
when we say we don't know when the new Macbooks will come out or what the
new iPhone will look like. They don't tell us that stuff.

14.
No, we can't let you use our employee discount. Has any store in the history
of retail allowed this???

15.
Product launch days can be really freaking stressful. Long lines, sold-out
products, loud crowds, impatient customers...it's a lot to handle.

16.
But Apple makes the shifts a little more bearable with a lot of free food
for employees. Free pizza in the break room makes everything better.

17.
There are a LOT of meltdowns at the Genius Bar. We don't like to be the
bearer of bad news, but sometimes that's our job.

18.
But there are a lot of beautiful moments, too. Helping a grandmother learn
how to FaceTime her grandkids, helping a new mom recover deleted pictures of
her baby...that's the stuff that makes the job worthwhile.

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Re: Has Blindfold PingPong been renoved or replaced

[Donna]

Here is the link

Blindfold Pong by Kid Friendly Software, Inc
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/blindfold-pong/id997786222?mt=8

Donna

> On Jan 13, 2018, at 8:39 PM, Jen .  wrote:
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> Hi,
> Just wondering if Blind Fold PingPong has been removed from the app store.  
> Unable to find it or has it been replaced.
> Jen
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Has Blindfold PingPong been renoved or replaced

[Jen .]

Hi,
Just wondering if Blind Fold PingPong has been removed from the app store.  
Unable to find it or has it been replaced.
Jen

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Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time

[Mike Arrigo]

Most likely the battery in the iphone 8 is larger, I don't think leaving it 
plugged in caused a problem. When lithium batteries are charged, the charging 
circuit completely turns off, it does not go in to a trickle charge mode. Here 
is some information on how charging lithium ion batteries works, actually this 
site has lots of good battery information.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
> On Jan 12, 2018, at 3:17 PM, regina alvarado  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> technically this is not a battery question but connected. I bought an ankor 
> charger when I had my iPhone 7. It was about as big as a candy bar. If I 
> didn't use it to charge my 7 during the day, I left it plugged in (only 
> because I usually forgot to take it out). When I got my 8 Plus I began to 
> notice I would only get about 40 percent charge. Eventually I bought a bigger 
> charger which does a fantastic job, just a bit larger than the other one. Did 
> I get less life from the charger because there is a bigger battery in the 8 
> Plus or did I wear it down by keeping it plugged? My roommate has it now, and 
> her phone is an Android only about 1 inch smaller around the case. Thank 
> goodness it is working beautifully for her so I kind of know the answer or 
> what I think it is. Glad I could get more use out of it, though.
> 
> Reggie and Lex
> 
> On Jan 12, 2018, at 3:55 PM, Daniel McGee  wrote:
> 
> That sounds great! How long have we been using lithium Ion for now compared 
> to the other type of battery mike mentioned? 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 12 Jan 2018, at 20:15, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>> 
>> It could harm older battery technologies such as NICD, but with lithium ion 
>> batteries, when the battery is charged, the charging circuit turns off, 
>> there is no such thing as a trickle charge for these kinds of batteries, so 
>> leaving it connected to a charger should be fine.
>> Original message:
>>> Hello everyone
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Does it do more harm than good if I leave my iPhone 8 on a charger all the 
>>> time?
>> 
>>> I have read somewhere that phones and tablets only have so many: charge 
>>> cycles before they can't hold a charge anymore.
>> 
>>> I have been told by apple that they recommend not: fully discharge the 
>>> device but top it up regularly. However, I wasn't sure about leaving it on 
>>> the charger for all of the time. Obviously though, I would take it off if I 
>>> had to go out somewhere.
>> 
>>> Thanks in advance for anyone who can clear up if leaving on charge is 
>>> either good: or bad for the overall health of an iPhone 8 battery.
>> 
>>> Daniel
>> 
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Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time

[Mike Arrigo]

Usually the battery swelling issue was caused by the separator getting 
punctured within the battery itself. When this happens, a short circuit was 
created. This could also happen if a charger tries to overcharge a battery but 
most lithium ion batteries also have a safety circuit that will shut this down 
if it happens.

> On Jan 12, 2018, at 3:06 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> My laptop is always plugged in since I rarely use it away from the house and 
> the same was true with my previousl laptop and even after over 5 years it 
> still holds a decent charge when I do unplug it.
> As other said, modern batteries can handle this easily and the problem with 
> the battery that swelled surely was a different issue and would eventually 
> have happened regardless. After all look at the Note 7 disaster where devices 
> which weren't even plugged in at all burst into flames.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mike Arrigo
> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 12:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time
> 
> It could harm older battery technologies such as NICD, but with lithium ion 
> batteries, when the battery is charged, the charging circuit turns off, there 
> is no such thing as a trickle charge for these kinds of batteries, so leaving 
> it connected to a charger should be fine.
> Original message:
>> Hello everyone
> 
> 
> 
>> Does it do more harm than good if I leave my iPhone 8 on a charger all 
>> the time?
> 
>> I have read somewhere that phones and tablets only have so many: 
>> charge cycles before they can't hold a charge anymore.
> 
>> I have been told by apple that they recommend not: fully discharge the 
>> device but top it up regularly. However, I wasn't sure about leaving 
>> it on the charger for all of the time. Obviously though, I would take 
>> it off if I had to go out somewhere.
> 
>> Thanks in advance for anyone who can clear up if leaving on charge is 
>> either good: or bad for the overall health of an iPhone 8 battery.
> 
>> Daniel
> 
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Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time

[Mike Arrigo]

Phones have been using this battery type at least since the first iphone, at 
least 10 years. They are also used in laptops.

> On Jan 12, 2018, at 2:55 PM, Daniel McGee  wrote:
> 
> That sounds great! How long have we been using lithium Ion for now compared 
> to the other type of battery mike mentioned? 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 12 Jan 2018, at 20:15, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>> 
>> It could harm older battery technologies such as NICD, but with lithium ion 
>> batteries, when the battery is charged, the charging circuit turns off, 
>> there is no such thing as a trickle charge for these kinds of batteries, so 
>> leaving it connected to a charger should be fine.
>> Original message:
>>> Hello everyone
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Does it do more harm than good if I leave my iPhone 8 on a charger all the 
>>> time?
>> 
>>> I have read somewhere that phones and tablets only have so many: charge 
>>> cycles before they can't hold a charge anymore.
>> 
>>> I have been told by apple that they recommend not: fully discharge the 
>>> device but top it up regularly. However, I wasn't sure about leaving it on 
>>> the charger for all of the time. Obviously though, I would take it off if I 
>>> had to go out somewhere.
>> 
>>> Thanks in advance for anyone who can clear up if leaving on charge is 
>>> either good: or bad for the overall health of an iPhone 8 battery.
>> 
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Handoff and Apple Watch question.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

I wonder if any list member would be kind enough to give me a pointer as to the 
use of Handoff between my iPhone7 and Apple Watch series 2.

As I understand it I should be able to share certain tasks between the two 
devices.

So here’s what I do, perhaps I am getting it wrong but I have had no success so 
far.

If I start Mail on the watch and open a message thread.

Now if I unlock my iPhone7 am I right in assuming that the mail task should 
appear in Task Switcher?  If not how do I pickup the task on the iPhone?

Thanks in advance for your help and tolerance of a new Apple Watch user.

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Re: More iPad mini 4 questions

[Anthony Vece]

I just use the weather in NFB Newsline.


> On Jan 13, 2018, at 1:17 PM, Jen .  wrote:
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> Hi,  
> So I discovered when adding all my apps to my iPad mini 4 that the iPads 
> don’t come with the weather app like th iPhone and iPod touch. 
> Can you download the native weather app.  If so, what would you search for 
> since typing weather gave me a bunch of results. 
> If not can any recommend a good but free weather app if possible that works 
> with voiceover and can be used in Canada. 
> Next I’m assuming there’s no flashlight either since I’m not noticing one. 
> Next when I plug my iPad mini 4 in to my windows pc the device connects and 
> everything but it says it’s not charging. 
> Should I be concerned as my iPhone and iPod touch charge just fine when 
> connected to the same USB port. 
> Finally I’ve done this before but don’t remember what I did but how do you 
> get rid of the yahoo, apple, etc. Search engines that show up on your device 
> when you first get it. 
> Thanks. 
> Jen 
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Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time

[Christopher Chaltain]

This happened to me on the iPhone 5 my employer provided me, and I most 
definitely did not leave it on the charger all of the time. I know this 
is anecdotal but I don't think a swelling battery has anything to do 
with whether you leave your phone charging or not, but it's probably 
more likely do to a defective battery or phone. Of course it's unlikely, 
but maybe someone just got two phones with defective batteries.



There's a lot on the web about this, but most of the resources I've seen 
claim that it's OK to leave your phone charging all of the time. The 
electronics in the battery and the phone should take care of things for 
you. Here's just one such article I found 
http://www.businessinsider.com/safe-charge-smartphone-overnight-2017-8



Someone from Apple may tell you it's your fault since they're working 
under the same misconceptions as others in the general public. they may 
also tell you this because they don't want to let you know there may be 
a problem with Apple's batteries or electronics in their iPhones.



On 01/12/2018 03:59 PM, MamaPeach wrote:
This actually happened with two of my iPods, one was a 5 generation 
and one was a 6, I had the 6th generation one fixed, but not the 5th 
generation. I had them both plugged up most of the time and the tech 
said that it was me keeping the device plugged up all the time that 
was the problem. Why else would the battery swell on two different 
generations of iPods? What else could have caused it if not keeping 
them plugged up? The 6th generation was fairly new. I wanted to get 
them both fixed, but just the one cost me $150 to get repaired.


-Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 4:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time

My laptop is always plugged in since I rarely use it away from the 
house and the same was true with my previousl laptop and even after 
over 5 years it still holds a decent charge when I do unplug it.
As other said, modern batteries can handle this easily and the problem 
with the battery that swelled surely was a different issue and would 
eventually have happened regardless. After all look at the Note 7 
disaster where devices which weren't even plugged in at all burst into 
flames.


Regards,
Sieghard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Mike Arrigo

Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 12:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time

It could harm older battery technologies such as NICD, but with 
lithium ion batteries, when the battery is charged, the charging 
circuit turns off, there is no such thing as a trickle charge for 
these kinds of batteries, so leaving it connected to a charger should 
be fine.

Original message:

Hello everyone





Does it do more harm than good if I leave my iPhone 8 on a charger all
the time?



I have read somewhere that phones and tablets only have so many:
charge cycles before they can't hold a charge anymore.



I have been told by apple that they recommend not: fully discharge the
device but top it up regularly. However, I wasn't sure about leaving
it on the charger for all of the time. Obviously though, I would take
it off if I had to go out somewhere.



Thanks in advance for anyone who can clear up if leaving on charge is
either good: or bad for the overall health of an iPhone 8 battery.



Daniel



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Re: Door locks with fingerprint technology with Bluetooth and accessible app?

[Kay Malmquist]

Well, I wasn't so interested in Alexa because of the same reason you 
mentioned.  However, I am interested in the Home kit idea and being able to 
change things as far as codes when away from home.  Now all I have to do is 
figure out the model number and where that might be.  It really sucks when 
the security company does not give you the paperwork that comes with all the 
pieces they install.  They seem to think that they no what is best and I 
hate to say it, but they don't.  I also have to get the installer code so 
that I can change up a few things on the whole system so that I can run it 
and change things as I want and need to rather than waiting for someone to 
come out and do it.

Kay Malmquist
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Ask for what you want. Believe that you deserve it, and then allow Life to 
give it to you.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 10:56 AM
  Subject: RE: Door locks with fingerprint technology with Bluetooth and 
accessible app?


  Find out the exact model and Google it, you’ll find all the features, 
specs and most likely a user manual in PDF.

  I don’t know why anybody in their right mind would want to Alexa enable a 
doorlock. Alexa has no security as far as I can tell and if somebody knows 
you have Alexa and a smart doorlock that works with it all they have to do 
is walk up to an open window and ask Alexa to unlock your door. If I want to 
unlock my Schlage Sense with SIRI it only works if I first unlock my phone 
with Touch Id or my passcode.



  Regards,

  Sieghard



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Kay Malmquist
  Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 6:10 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Door locks with fingerprint technology with Bluetooth and 
accessible app?



  We have a Yale key pad lock on our door that was provided by our security 
company and I was wondering if anyone knows where we can get the users guide 
or find out more how to use it.  I don't want to have to asks the installer 
every time I want to set another code for someone.  I also want to know if 
they have an app so we don't have to wade through Alarm.com to try to find 
what might not be there.  I hear it is alexa enabled but don't know how to 
set that up either and neither does our installer.  I want to know if it is 
home kit capable as well.  any ideas?

  Kay Malmquist
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give it to you.



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From: Sieghard Weitzel

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 11:18 PM

Subject: RE: Door locks with fingerprint technology with Bluetooth and 
accessible app?



Not any more, quite a few electronic lock companies made fingerprint 
doorlocks years ago, I had one and so did a friend of mine, and they were 
the biggest pain in the neck.

Depending on how much you want to spend, you are much better off with an 
electronic lock with a keypad or a smartlock which you can unlock with your 
phone.

I have a Weiser electronic lock at my retail store which was actually 
installed by my alarm company and which has a keypad, but it also connects 
via the Zigbbee protocol to my alarm panel so I can unlock it via the alarm 
app remotely.

At home we just recently purchased a Schlage Sense smartlock which has 
home kit support. This means you can unlock it by telling SIRI “Unlock my 
front door” or from the home app. It has also a keypad, but it’s a 
touchscreen so you’d have to put at least a dot on the 5 or maybe put a 
tactile dot on the 1, 3, 5, 7 and 9 to be able to use it manually.

Before we bought it we had a Schlage electronic lock on the front door 
and I really like it, too. It has a lock button at the top and underneat two 
rows of buttons, 1 to 5 and 6 to 0. The lock button is above the 3, so in 
the middle above the two number rows. This particular lock (forgot the 
model) doesn’t actually have a motor so the single 9 Volt battery lasts 
forever because all it does is to engage a deadbolt which you turn by hand 
to lock and unlock the door. Less high tech, but also completely reliable 
and we now moved this lock to our patio door.

If there are still fingerprint locks around I really advise you to stay 
away from them, if you don’t want to spend too much then you can get a lock 
like that electronic Schlage with the keypad I described for around $100 and 
it’s super-easy to use, you can program multiple codes and it’s easy  to 
program it without sight, all you need to know is the master/programming 
code which you can customize and then you of course need to write down the 
basic commands for adding or removing a code. It's usually something like 
enter the master code and press the lock button, then press 1 to add a code 
followed 

RE: Watch series 2 very sluggish lately

[M. Taylor]

Hello Gary and Iona,

I cannot reproduce your findings.

My Watch, Series 2, is working better than ever with absolutely no slow-down.  

Could this be because I am paired to iPhone 8 Plus?  I don't know.  My watch is 
performing as expected.  

One thing, however, as with my phone, I do make it a policy to reboot my watch 
at least once a day.

Mark 

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From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 5:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Watch series 2 very sluggish lately

Hi Ioana,


yes, my wife and I both have series 2 watches bought earlier this year and have 
been experiencing exactly the same issues.

It is particularly bad on the workout app which seems to hang for several 
seconds, it is ok if you just leave it and let it get on with it but if you tap 
or swipe too soon the watch seems to get in a mess.

I have found re-booting the watch seems to improve the speed slightly but I 
feel somewhat aggrieved that such a new watch is already suffering from a 
performance degradation after just one major OS upgrade.


Gary
On 1/12/2018 9:59 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Since watch OS 4 and maybe even more after some of the incremental updates to 
> 4.1 or 4.2 my watch series 2 is very slow to wake. I tap the screen and only 
> hear a ding if I flick left and right. It's often impossible to quickly read 
> a notification etc. Is this happening to anyone else? Any solution?
> I know that older devices get slower as you update os but I would have hoped 
> that the watch does not suffer same fate in such an extreme fashion.
> Thanks for your help and comments,
>
>
> Ioana
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: More iPad mini 4 questions

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi, 
Just search for the weather channel and you should find it if it is available.
Aleeha 

> On Jan 13, 2018, at 12:54 PM, Jen .  wrote:
> 
> Hi,Hi,  
> Thanks for your help.  
> What is the weather channel app called.  Maybe I’ll try that one. 
> Jen  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Aleeha 
> Dudley 
> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 1:45:41 PM
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>  
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> So I discovered when adding all my apps to my iPad mini 4 that the iPads 
> don’t come with the weather app like th iPhone and iPod touch. 
>> Can you download the native weather app.  If so, what would you search for 
>> since typing weather gave me a bunch of results. 
>> If not can any recommend a good but free weather app if possible that works 
>> with voiceover and can be used in Canada. 
> You cannot get the Apple weather app for the iPad, but I am not sure of which 
> apps would work in Canada. I like the Weather Channel app, or I have some 
> apps downloaded from local TV stations that aren’t too bad.
>> Next I’m assuming there’s no flashlight either since I’m not noticing one. 
> If you’re running iOS 11, you’ll need to look in the control center for the 
> flashlight button. 
>> Next when I plug my iPad mini 4 in to my windows pc the device connects and 
>> everything but it says it’s not charging. 
>> Should I be concerned as my iPhone and iPod touch charge just fine when 
>> connected to the same USB port. 
> Do not be concerned: it is likely because the iPad needs more power to 
> charge. You’ll need to use a wall outlet.
>> Finally I’ve done this before but don’t remember what I did but how do you 
>> get rid of the yahoo, apple, etc. Search engines that show up on your device 
>> when you first get it. 
> I’m not sure what you mean by this.
> 
>> Thanks. 
>> Jen 
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RE: More iPad mini 4 questions

[Jen .]

Hi,Hi,
Thanks for your help.
What is the weather channel app called.  Maybe I’ll try that one.
Jen


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Aleeha 
Dudley 
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 1:45:41 PM
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Hi,
I’ll take a stab at some of your questions below.
So I discovered when adding all my apps to my iPad mini 4 that the iPads don’t 
come with the weather app like th iPhone and iPod touch.
Can you download the native weather app.  If so, what would you search for 
since typing weather gave me a bunch of results.
If not can any recommend a good but free weather app if possible that works 
with voiceover and can be used in Canada.
You cannot get the Apple weather app for the iPad, but I am not sure of which 
apps would work in Canada. I like the Weather Channel app, or I have some apps 
downloaded from local TV stations that aren’t too bad.
Next I’m assuming there’s no flashlight either since I’m not noticing one.
If you’re running iOS 11, you’ll need to look in the control center for the 
flashlight button.
Next when I plug my iPad mini 4 in to my windows pc the device connects and 
everything but it says it’s not charging.
Should I be concerned as my iPhone and iPod touch charge just fine when 
connected to the same USB port.
Do not be concerned: it is likely because the iPad needs more power to charge. 
You’ll need to use a wall outlet.
Finally I’ve done this before but don’t remember what I did but how do you get 
rid of the yahoo, apple, etc. Search engines that show up on your device when 
you first get it.
I’m not sure what you mean by this.

Thanks.
Jen

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RE: Thoughts about some new Bluetooth toys

[Merv Keck]

Hi,

Those sleep phones look pretty good. From the product page, however, I could 
not tell if they have a pair that is compatible with the newer iPhone. Or if I 
need a lightning or Bluetooth adapter to use them. Lately I have been falling 
asleep reading just about every night with earbuds in. which is not advisable 
probably.   

Merv

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 11:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts about some new bluetooth toys

 

Thanks, Rick, I’ll take a look at those.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick Alfaro
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 7:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Thoughts about some new bluetooth toys

 

Hi Sieghard.

 

Have you considered trying out the Sleep Phones from www.sleepPhones 
 .com ?

 

They come in both wired and BT versions. I have not tried them personally but 
they sure sound like they would fit the bill for you.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 11:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Thoughts about some new bluetooth toys

 

Hello,

 

I’m a huge Audible/audio book fan and often listen at night after my wife goes 
to bed. I therefore am always on the lookout for the perfect way to listen so 
it doesn’t disturb my wife but so it’s also comfortable for me since I often 
fall asleep listening. 
I often just use my iPhone and wired Earpods, but sometimes that of course 
results in me waking up during the middle of the night lying on my iPhone and 
with Earpods wrapped around me. I have tried a pillow speaker which I purchased 
from Amazon, but it wasn’t for me. I sometimes use my Plantronics Voyager Edge 
which just a single earpiece and if it ends up somewhere in the bed under me 
it’s not so bad, but it’s also not quite perfect yet.

I recently purchased two larger headsets and something called a bluetooth 
receiver/transmitter, here some links:

 

Jabra Move – link to the canadian Jabra website 
 

Jabra Move – link to Best Buy Canada 

 , regular $109.99 on sale until today for $69.99

I actually bought this on Amazon.ca for $88 so seeing on Best Buy Canada on 
sale for $69.99 is a bummer, but anyhow, I quite like this headset. It’s an 
on-ear headset which is very comfortable and well-built. Only thing for me is 
that the on/off switch which  is a slider is on the right ear and the 
play/pause button and volume up/down is on the left which I find a bit awkward.

It claims 8 hours of battery life and can be used in wired mode as well and I 
quite like it when headsets offer both options.

 

Sony MDRXB950BT/B on Amazon.com 

  $118.00

Sony MDRXB950BT/B on Amazon Canada $199.99 

 

Sony MDRXB950BT review 

 

These are over-the-ear headphones which have noise cancelling and a base boost 
feature and they are awesome, but a bit larger than the Jabra Move.

I was able to get them on sale on Amazon Canada during Boxing Week for $124.99 
Canadian which is under $100 US so that was a really good deal.

I love the controls, the on/off is a button, but the headphones have a very 
pleasant and high quality female voice and say things like “Power On”, “Power 
Off”, “Pairing mode” etc.

The play/pause is on the right ear and it’s a button but it ccan also be 
pusshed up/down for skip/jump back and if you push and hold it it will fast 
forward/rewind.

They sound fantastic, are very comfortable and what I would expect from Sony. I 
have seen reviews where they are favouribly compared with Bose and Beats 
headsets which cost much more.

 

The last item I bought is a dual mode bluetooth receiver/transmitter, it can 
connect to a TV, stereo etc. by 3.5mm/RCA analogue or optical digital 
connection and this allows you to make a non-bluetooth device into one you can 
listen to with a bluetooth headset or speaker. Here the Amazon.ca link:

 

Miccus LONG RANGE Dual Link Bluetooth Transmitter and Bluetooth Receiver, aptX 
Low Latency audio. Wireless adapter for TV, stereo, speakers, Phone, PC. Auto 
optical pass through - (Home RTX 2.0) 

Re: More iPad mini 4 questions

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi, 
I’ll take a stab at some of your questions below. 
So I discovered when adding all my apps to my iPad mini 4 that the iPads don’t 
come with the weather app like th iPhone and iPod touch. 
> Can you download the native weather app.  If so, what would you search for 
> since typing weather gave me a bunch of results. 
> If not can any recommend a good but free weather app if possible that works 
> with voiceover and can be used in Canada. 
You cannot get the Apple weather app for the iPad, but I am not sure of which 
apps would work in Canada. I like the Weather Channel app, or I have some apps 
downloaded from local TV stations that aren’t too bad.
> Next I’m assuming there’s no flashlight either since I’m not noticing one. 
If you’re running iOS 11, you’ll need to look in the control center for the 
flashlight button. 
> Next when I plug my iPad mini 4 in to my windows pc the device connects and 
> everything but it says it’s not charging. 
> Should I be concerned as my iPhone and iPod touch charge just fine when 
> connected to the same USB port. 
Do not be concerned: it is likely because the iPad needs more power to charge. 
You’ll need to use a wall outlet.
> Finally I’ve done this before but don’t remember what I did but how do you 
> get rid of the yahoo, apple, etc. Search engines that show up on your device 
> when you first get it. 
I’m not sure what you mean by this.

> Thanks. 
> Jen 
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More iPad mini 4 questions

[Jen .]

Hi,
So I discovered when adding all my apps to my iPad mini 4 that the iPads don’t 
come with the weather app like th iPhone and iPod touch.
Can you download the native weather app.  If so, what would you search for 
since typing weather gave me a bunch of results.
If not can any recommend a good but free weather app if possible that works 
with voiceover and can be used in Canada.
Next I’m assuming there’s no flashlight either since I’m not noticing one.
Next when I plug my iPad mini 4 in to my windows pc the device connects and 
everything but it says it’s not charging.
Should I be concerned as my iPhone and iPod touch charge just fine when 
connected to the same USB port.
Finally I’ve done this before but don’t remember what I did but how do you get 
rid of the yahoo, apple, etc. Search engines that show up on your device when 
you first get it.
Thanks.
Jen

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Re: Door locks with fingerprint technology with Bluetooth and accessible app?

[Kimberly]

Alexa doesn't work with doorlocks or security systems.

Sent from Kimber's iPhone
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on.—Annie Proulx

> On Jan 13, 2018, at 11:56 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Find out the exact model and Google it, you’ll find all the features, specs 
> and most likely a user manual in PDF.
> I don’t know why anybody in their right mind would want to Alexa enable a 
> doorlock. Alexa has no security as far as I can tell and if somebody knows 
> you have Alexa and a smart doorlock that works with it all they have to do is 
> walk up to an open window and ask Alexa to unlock your door. If I want to 
> unlock my Schlage Sense with SIRI it only works if I first unlock my phone 
> with Touch Id or my passcode.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Kay Malmquist
> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 6:10 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Door locks with fingerprint technology with Bluetooth and 
> accessible app?
>  
> We have a Yale key pad lock on our door that was provided by our security 
> company and I was wondering if anyone knows where we can get the users guide 
> or find out more how to use it.  I don't want to have to asks the installer 
> every time I want to set another code for someone.  I also want to know if 
> they have an app so we don't have to wade through Alarm.com to try to find 
> what might not be there.  I hear it is alexa enabled but don't know how to 
> set that up either and neither does our installer.  I want to know if it is 
> home kit capable as well.  any ideas?
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>  
> Ask for what you want. Believe that you deserve it, and then allow Life to 
> give it to you.
>  
> — Louise Hay
> - Original Message -
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 11:18 PM
> Subject: RE: Door locks with fingerprint technology with Bluetooth and 
> accessible app?
>  
> Not any more, quite a few electronic lock companies made fingerprint 
> doorlocks years ago, I had one and so did a friend of mine, and they were the 
> biggest pain in the neck.
> Depending on how much you want to spend, you are much better off with an 
> electronic lock with a keypad or a smartlock which you can unlock with your 
> phone.
> I have a Weiser electronic lock at my retail store which was actually 
> installed by my alarm company and which has a keypad, but it also connects 
> via the Zigbbee protocol to my alarm panel so I can unlock it via the alarm 
> app remotely.
> At home we just recently purchased a Schlage Sense smartlock which has home 
> kit support. This means you can unlock it by telling SIRI “Unlock my front 
> door” or from the home app. It has also a keypad, but it’s a touchscreen so 
> you’d have to put at least a dot on the 5 or maybe put a tactile dot on the 
> 1, 3, 5, 7 and 9 to be able to use it manually.
> Before we bought it we had a Schlage electronic lock on the front door and I 
> really like it, too. It has a lock button at the top and underneat two rows 
> of buttons, 1 to 5 and 6 to 0. The lock button is above the 3, so in the 
> middle above the two number rows. This particular lock (forgot the model) 
> doesn’t actually have a motor so the single 9 Volt battery lasts forever 
> because all it does is to engage a deadbolt which you turn by hand to lock 
> and unlock the door. Less high tech, but also completely reliable and we now 
> moved this lock to our patio door.
> If there are still fingerprint locks around I really advise you to stay away 
> from them, if you don’t want to spend too much then you can get a lock like 
> that electronic Schlage with the keypad I described for around $100 and it’s 
> super-easy to use, you can program multiple codes and it’s easy  to program 
> it without sight, all you need to know is the master/programming code which 
> you can customize and then you of course need to write down the basic 
> commands for adding or removing a code. It's usually something like enter the 
> master code and press the lock button, then press 1 to add a code followed by 
> the lock button, then enter a 4-digit code, press the lock button and 
> re-enter it. This is just an example, but it’s that type of sequence.
> I am not sure if this particular Schlage can do one-time codes, but before we 
> got the smartlock at my store we had a electronic keypad lock from Tamor. 
> That one you could set a mastercode anywhere from 4 to 8 digits long and user 
> codes then had to be the same length which means if you think a 4-digit code 
> might be too insecure this one is nice because you can do a 5 or 7 digit code 
> which is more unusual. Anyhow, that one also allowed for one-time codes so 
> if, for example, you wanted to give a plumber or electrician or a friend 
> access to your house without giving them a permanent 

RE: Door locks with fingerprint technology with Bluetooth and accessible app?

[Cris Ali]

Thanks a million folks for this valuable information.
I do not have a security company, and I have no intention to hire one.  It is 
simply not needed in my area.
I asked my question because I have a tendency to lock myself out often.  That 
is why I thought of fingerprint or digital lock.
Now, I wonder how hard is it to install these locks.  Do I need to hire a 
specialist to assemble and install these kinds of locks, or I would be able to 
do it myself?  When it comes to the regular mechanical locks with keys, I 
always change them myself without hiring a Locksmith. I am not sure how hard it 
would be to install a digital lock by myself!
Cheers,
Cris

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 11:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Door locks with fingerprint technology with Bluetooth and 
accessible app?

Find out the exact model and Google it, you’ll find all the features, specs and 
most likely a user manual in PDF.
I don’t know why anybody in their right mind would want to Alexa enable a 
doorlock. Alexa has no security as far as I can tell and if somebody knows you 
have Alexa and a smart doorlock that works with it all they have to do is walk 
up to an open window and ask Alexa to unlock your door. If I want to unlock my 
Schlage Sense with SIRI it only works if I first unlock my phone with Touch Id 
or my passcode.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 6:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Door locks with fingerprint technology with Bluetooth and 
accessible app?

We have a Yale key pad lock on our door that was provided by our security 
company and I was wondering if anyone knows where we can get the users guide or 
find out more how to use it.  I don't want to have to asks the installer every 
time I want to set another code for someone.  I also want to know if they have 
an app so we don't have to wade through Alarm.com to try to find what might not 
be there.  I hear it is alexa enabled but don't know how to set that up either 
and neither does our installer.  I want to know if it is home kit capable as 
well.  any ideas?
Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

Ask for what you want. Believe that you deserve it, and then allow Life to give 
it to you.

— Louise Hay
- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 11:18 PM
Subject: RE: Door locks with fingerprint technology with Bluetooth and 
accessible app?

Not any more, quite a few electronic lock companies made fingerprint doorlocks 
years ago, I had one and so did a friend of mine, and they were the biggest 
pain in the neck.
Depending on how much you want to spend, you are much better off with an 
electronic lock with a keypad or a smartlock which you can unlock with your 
phone.
I have a Weiser electronic lock at my retail store which was actually installed 
by my alarm company and which has a keypad, but it also connects via the 
Zigbbee protocol to my alarm panel so I can unlock it via the alarm app 
remotely.
At home we just recently purchased a Schlage Sense smartlock which has home kit 
support. This means you can unlock it by telling SIRI “Unlock my front door” or 
from the home app. It has also a keypad, but it’s a touchscreen so you’d have 
to put at least a dot on the 5 or maybe put a tactile dot on the 1, 3, 5, 7 and 
9 to be able to use it manually.
Before we bought it we had a Schlage electronic lock on the front door and I 
really like it, too. It has a lock button at the top and underneat two rows of 
buttons, 1 to 5 and 6 to 0. The lock button is above the 3, so in the middle 
above the two number rows. This particular lock (forgot the model) doesn’t 
actually have a motor so the single 9 Volt battery lasts forever because all it 
does is to engage a deadbolt which you turn by hand to lock and unlock the 
door. Less high tech, but also completely reliable and we now moved this lock 
to our patio door.
If there are still fingerprint locks around I really advise you to stay away 
from them, if you don’t want to spend too much then you can get a lock like 
that electronic Schlage with the keypad I described for around $100 and it’s 
super-easy to use, you can program multiple codes and it’s easy  to program it 
without sight, all you need to know is the master/programming code which you 
can customize and then you of course need to write down the basic commands for 
adding or removing a code. It's usually something like enter the master code 
and press the lock button, then press 1 to add a code followed by the lock 
button, then enter a 4-digit code, press the lock button and re-enter it. This 

RE: Thoughts about some new bluetooth toys

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Thanks, Rick, I’ll take a look at those.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rick Alfaro
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 7:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thoughts about some new bluetooth toys

Hi Sieghard.

Have you considered trying out the Sleep Phones from 
www.sleepPhones.com ?

They come in both wired and BT versions. I have not tried them personally but 
they sure sound like they would fit the bill for you.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 11:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Thoughts about some new bluetooth toys

Hello,

I’m a huge Audible/audio book fan and often listen at night after my wife goes 
to bed. I therefore am always on the lookout for the perfect way to listen so 
it doesn’t disturb my wife but so it’s also comfortable for me since I often 
fall asleep listening.
I often just use my iPhone and wired Earpods, but sometimes that of course 
results in me waking up during the middle of the night lying on my iPhone and 
with Earpods wrapped around me. I have tried a pillow speaker which I purchased 
from Amazon, but it wasn’t for me. I sometimes use my Plantronics Voyager Edge 
which just a single earpiece and if it ends up somewhere in the bed under me 
it’s not so bad, but it’s also not quite perfect yet.
I recently purchased two larger headsets and something called a bluetooth 
receiver/transmitter, here some links:

Jabra Move – link to the canadian Jabra 
website
Jabra Move – link to Best Buy 
Canada,
 regular $109.99 on sale until today for $69.99
I actually bought this on Amazon.ca for $88 so seeing on Best Buy Canada on 
sale for $69.99 is a bummer, but anyhow, I quite like this headset. It’s an 
on-ear headset which is very comfortable and well-built. Only thing for me is 
that the on/off switch which  is a slider is on the right ear and the 
play/pause button and volume up/down is on the left which I find a bit awkward.
It claims 8 hours of battery life and can be used in wired mode as well and I 
quite like it when headsets offer both options.

Sony MDRXB950BT/B on 
Amazon.com
 $118.00
Sony MDRXB950BT/B on Amazon Canada 
$199.99
Sony MDRXB950BT 
review
These are over-the-ear headphones which have noise cancelling and a base boost 
feature and they are awesome, but a bit larger than the Jabra Move.
I was able to get them on sale on Amazon Canada during Boxing Week for $124.99 
Canadian which is under $100 US so that was a really good deal.
I love the controls, the on/off is a button, but the headphones have a very 
pleasant and high quality female voice and say things like “Power On”, “Power 
Off”, “Pairing mode” etc.
The play/pause is on the right ear and it’s a button but it ccan also be 
pusshed up/down for skip/jump back and if you push and hold it it will fast 
forward/rewind.
They sound fantastic, are very comfortable and what I would expect from Sony. I 
have seen reviews where they are favouribly compared with Bose and Beats 
headsets which cost much more.

The last item I bought is a dual mode bluetooth receiver/transmitter, it can 
connect to a TV, stereo etc. by 3.5mm/RCA analogue or optical digital 
connection and this allows you to make a non-bluetooth device into one you can 
listen to with a bluetooth headset or speaker. Here the Amazon.ca link:

Miccus LONG RANGE Dual Link Bluetooth Transmitter and Bluetooth Receiver, aptX 
Low Latency audio. Wireless adapter for TV, stereo, speakers, Phone, PC. Auto 
optical pass through - (Home RTX 
2.0)
It’s a little box, maybe the size of an iPhone 7 (not a Plus) and it has a 
3.5mm analogue input and output in the back as well as an optical digital input 
and output and it comes with a little antenna which is attached in the back in 
the middle. It also has a micro USB port for power.
I bought this in order to basically bluetooth enable my Sonos system. I have 
waited for a long time for Sonos to come out with a Sonos headset, but at this 
point Sonos is all about listening out loud via speakers, they now are focusing 
on their voice smartspeakers which support Alexa and soon will support Google 
Assistant and Cortana and I have a feeling that a headset is not coming soon 
although 

RE: Door locks with fingerprint technology with Bluetooth and accessible app?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Find out the exact model and Google it, you’ll find all the features, specs and 
most likely a user manual in PDF.
I don’t know why anybody in their right mind would want to Alexa enable a 
doorlock. Alexa has no security as far as I can tell and if somebody knows you 
have Alexa and a smart doorlock that works with it all they have to do is walk 
up to an open window and ask Alexa to unlock your door. If I want to unlock my 
Schlage Sense with SIRI it only works if I first unlock my phone with Touch Id 
or my passcode.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kay Malmquist
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 6:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Door locks with fingerprint technology with Bluetooth and 
accessible app?

We have a Yale key pad lock on our door that was provided by our security 
company and I was wondering if anyone knows where we can get the users guide or 
find out more how to use it.  I don't want to have to asks the installer every 
time I want to set another code for someone.  I also want to know if they have 
an app so we don't have to wade through Alarm.com to try to find what might not 
be there.  I hear it is alexa enabled but don't know how to set that up either 
and neither does our installer.  I want to know if it is home kit capable as 
well.  any ideas?
Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

Ask for what you want. Believe that you deserve it, and then allow Life to give 
it to you.

— Louise Hay
- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 11:18 PM
Subject: RE: Door locks with fingerprint technology with Bluetooth and 
accessible app?

Not any more, quite a few electronic lock companies made fingerprint doorlocks 
years ago, I had one and so did a friend of mine, and they were the biggest 
pain in the neck.
Depending on how much you want to spend, you are much better off with an 
electronic lock with a keypad or a smartlock which you can unlock with your 
phone.
I have a Weiser electronic lock at my retail store which was actually installed 
by my alarm company and which has a keypad, but it also connects via the 
Zigbbee protocol to my alarm panel so I can unlock it via the alarm app 
remotely.
At home we just recently purchased a Schlage Sense smartlock which has home kit 
support. This means you can unlock it by telling SIRI “Unlock my front door” or 
from the home app. It has also a keypad, but it’s a touchscreen so you’d have 
to put at least a dot on the 5 or maybe put a tactile dot on the 1, 3, 5, 7 and 
9 to be able to use it manually.
Before we bought it we had a Schlage electronic lock on the front door and I 
really like it, too. It has a lock button at the top and underneat two rows of 
buttons, 1 to 5 and 6 to 0. The lock button is above the 3, so in the middle 
above the two number rows. This particular lock (forgot the model) doesn’t 
actually have a motor so the single 9 Volt battery lasts forever because all it 
does is to engage a deadbolt which you turn by hand to lock and unlock the 
door. Less high tech, but also completely reliable and we now moved this lock 
to our patio door.
If there are still fingerprint locks around I really advise you to stay away 
from them, if you don’t want to spend too much then you can get a lock like 
that electronic Schlage with the keypad I described for around $100 and it’s 
super-easy to use, you can program multiple codes and it’s easy  to program it 
without sight, all you need to know is the master/programming code which you 
can customize and then you of course need to write down the basic commands for 
adding or removing a code. It's usually something like enter the master code 
and press the lock button, then press 1 to add a code followed by the lock 
button, then enter a 4-digit code, press the lock button and re-enter it. This 
is just an example, but it’s that type of sequence.
I am not sure if this particular Schlage can do one-time codes, but before we 
got the smartlock at my store we had a electronic keypad lock from Tamor. That 
one you could set a mastercode anywhere from 4 to 8 digits long and user codes 
then had to be the same length which means if you think a 4-digit code might be 
too insecure this one is nice because you can do a 5 or 7 digit code which is 
more unusual. Anyhow, that one also allowed for one-time codes so if, for 
example, you wanted to give a plumber or electrician or a friend access to your 
house without giving them a permanent code, you could set up a one-time code 
and once it got used once it would no longer work. Of course with a smartlock 
this functionality is even further expanded, you can give your dog walker who 
picks up your dog every weekday between 8 and 8:30 AM a code which only works 
during that time or you could simply ask them to call you when 

RE: Phone pricing/upgrading, was: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Nobody forces you to upgrade although in my opinion a smartphone's lifespan is 
limited just as the lifespan of a laptop although it can be somewhat longer. I 
think a recently current iPhone can easily run for 4 or 5 years and if after 3 
or 4 years you change the battery maybe longer, it would be an interesting 
experiment, biut most people get rid of their phones after a couple of years 
and many are now on these annual upgrade plans.
As for the temperatures in Canada that depends, move to Vancouver or even 
better Victoria pon Vancouver Island and you will rarely see snow or 
temperatures below freezing. Unfortunately Vancouver is also one of the most 
expensive cities in Canada and, for that matter, in the world when it comes to 
rents and real estate.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Deidre Muccio
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 5:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Phone pricing/upgrading, was: Harming battery if left on a charger 
all the time

I want to move to Canada! Too bad it's a little colder there than where I am in 
Massachusetts. I need to come up there and start exploring around! Anyway nice 
post. I especially like your comment about touch screen commands and being able 
to activate something while the phone is in your pocket. I really don't have 
any use for myself or any of the added features on smart phones because I don't 
do banking or anything particularly sophisticated  on my phone. My favorite 
apps our podcast calendar Facebook that all the reading programs for the blind, 
Scanning programs, tune in radio, camera photos is great but honestly just just 
don't have any use for much more than that. I really wish there was not this 
continual race to upgrade, Or let me just say that it  holds no use for me 
personally.

Deidre


> On Jan 13, 2018, at 12:37 AM, Cristóbal  wrote:
> 
> That and with the rumored second gen SE phone, upgrading for better 
> performance without having to pay a premium price for features that we may 
> not be able to use to its fullest at a more reasonable amount becomes a much 
> more attractive option.  
> The wife's got the latest iPad Pro and is perfectly happy with her SE. If 
> another SE comes out, I'm probably going to give that one a hard look-see 
> since I prefer the smaller size and am loathed to give up the finger print 
> feature. She prefers to upgrade her iPad from time to time rather than having 
> the latest and greatest phone. She's probably going to keep that phone till 
> it gives up the ghost. We'll likely get the batteries swapped out this year 
> so that'll only help too.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 8:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Phone pricing/upgrading, was: Harming battery if left on a 
> charger all the time
> 
> The fact is that if you upgrade every year one way or another the carrier or 
> Apple or whoever flips the bill on the phone will make you pay and just like 
> a Casino, the house always wins. I guess if a new phone every year is your 
> thing then it's probably worth it for you. Since I bought my first iPhone 4 
> in 2010 I upgraded once the next year and that was in 2011 when the iPhone 4S 
> with SIRI came out. After that I always kept my phone for 2 years, my next on 
> was a 5S in 2013 and then a 6S Plus in 2015. This time for the first time I 
> am keeping my 6S Plus for a third year and given how much I like that phone, 
> how well it works and considering that at some point this year I'll pay Apple 
> the $35 Canadian to get a new battery put in I might very well keep it for a 
> fourth year when this fall comes around. Apple must do something pretty cool 
> this fall to make me upgrade, yes, wireless charging is tempting, but while 
> Face Id is cool, I also really like Touch Id and how it allows me to unlock 
> my phone while it's in my belt holster or inside my jacket pocket.
> As the phones mature and truly revolutionary designs and features don't 
> happen as often I find the need to upgrade less urgent. My wife has a 6S and 
> we are both out of contract and with an MVNO here in Canada, Koodo, where we 
> have unlimited Canada wide calling and texting along with basic voice mail 
> and 6 Gb of data each for $49 + taxes, total of $54.88. Recently all 3 of the 
> large carriers, Rogers, Bell and Telus, offered a promo which lasted only a 
> few days and for $60 you were able to get the unlimited calling and texting 
> along with 10 Gb of data which isn't bad at all, but we rarely use even 2 Gb 
> a month unless we are away for a longer period of time and even then 6 Gb is 
> quite a bit. The usual price here in Canada for something like what we have 
> is at least $30 a month more if you are on a 2-year contract, this means over 

RE: Thoughts about some new bluetooth toys

[Rick Alfaro]

Hi Sieghard.

 

Have you considered trying out the Sleep Phones from www.sleepPhones 
 .com ?

 

They come in both wired and BT versions. I have not tried them personally but 
they sure sound like they would fit the bill for you.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 11:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Thoughts about some new bluetooth toys

 

Hello,

 

I’m a huge Audible/audio book fan and often listen at night after my wife goes 
to bed. I therefore am always on the lookout for the perfect way to listen so 
it doesn’t disturb my wife but so it’s also comfortable for me since I often 
fall asleep listening. 
I often just use my iPhone and wired Earpods, but sometimes that of course 
results in me waking up during the middle of the night lying on my iPhone and 
with Earpods wrapped around me. I have tried a pillow speaker which I purchased 
from Amazon, but it wasn’t for me. I sometimes use my Plantronics Voyager Edge 
which just a single earpiece and if it ends up somewhere in the bed under me 
it’s not so bad, but it’s also not quite perfect yet.

I recently purchased two larger headsets and something called a bluetooth 
receiver/transmitter, here some links:

 

Jabra Move – link to the canadian Jabra website 
 

Jabra Move – link to Best Buy Canada 

 , regular $109.99 on sale until today for $69.99

I actually bought this on Amazon.ca for $88 so seeing on Best Buy Canada on 
sale for $69.99 is a bummer, but anyhow, I quite like this headset. It’s an 
on-ear headset which is very comfortable and well-built. Only thing for me is 
that the on/off switch which  is a slider is on the right ear and the 
play/pause button and volume up/down is on the left which I find a bit awkward.

It claims 8 hours of battery life and can be used in wired mode as well and I 
quite like it when headsets offer both options.

 

Sony MDRXB950BT/B on Amazon.com 

  $118.00

Sony MDRXB950BT/B on Amazon Canada $199.99 

 

Sony MDRXB950BT review 

 

These are over-the-ear headphones which have noise cancelling and a base boost 
feature and they are awesome, but a bit larger than the Jabra Move.

I was able to get them on sale on Amazon Canada during Boxing Week for $124.99 
Canadian which is under $100 US so that was a really good deal.

I love the controls, the on/off is a button, but the headphones have a very 
pleasant and high quality female voice and say things like “Power On”, “Power 
Off”, “Pairing mode” etc.

The play/pause is on the right ear and it’s a button but it ccan also be 
pusshed up/down for skip/jump back and if you push and hold it it will fast 
forward/rewind.

They sound fantastic, are very comfortable and what I would expect from Sony. I 
have seen reviews where they are favouribly compared with Bose and Beats 
headsets which cost much more.

 

The last item I bought is a dual mode bluetooth receiver/transmitter, it can 
connect to a TV, stereo etc. by 3.5mm/RCA analogue or optical digital 
connection and this allows you to make a non-bluetooth device into one you can 
listen to with a bluetooth headset or speaker. Here the Amazon.ca link:

 

Miccus LONG RANGE Dual Link Bluetooth Transmitter and Bluetooth Receiver, aptX 
Low Latency audio. Wireless adapter for TV, stereo, speakers, Phone, PC. Auto 
optical pass through - (Home RTX 2.0) 

 

It’s a little box, maybe the size of an iPhone 7 (not a Plus) and it has a 
3.5mm analogue input and output in the back as well as an optical digital input 
and output and it comes with a little antenna which is attached in the back in 
the middle. It also has a micro USB port for power.

I bought this in order to basically bluetooth enable my Sonos system. I have 
waited for a long time for Sonos to come out with a Sonos headset, but at this 
point Sonos is all about listening out loud via speakers, they now are focusing 
on their voice smartspeakers which support Alexa and soon will support Google 
Assistant and Cortana and I have a feeling that a headset is not coming soon 
although I’m sure it will come at some point since you find many posts on 
forums where people want one.

Anyhow, I plugged it into one of my Sonos Connect players using the optical 
digital cable and at first it seemed to work great with the Jabra Move headset. 

Re: Door locks with fingerprint technology with Bluetooth and accessible app?

[Kay Malmquist]

We have a Yale key pad lock on our door that was provided by our security 
company and I was wondering if anyone knows where we can get the users guide 
or find out more how to use it.  I don't want to have to asks the installer 
every time I want to set another code for someone.  I also want to know if 
they have an app so we don't have to wade through Alarm.com to try to find 
what might not be there.  I hear it is alexa enabled but don't know how to 
set that up either and neither does our installer.  I want to know if it is 
home kit capable as well.  any ideas?
Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

Ask for what you want. Believe that you deserve it, and then allow Life to 
give it to you.

— Louise Hay

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 11:18 PM
  Subject: RE: Door locks with fingerprint technology with Bluetooth and 
accessible app?


  Not any more, quite a few electronic lock companies made fingerprint 
doorlocks years ago, I had one and so did a friend of mine, and they were 
the biggest pain in the neck.

  Depending on how much you want to spend, you are much better off with an 
electronic lock with a keypad or a smartlock which you can unlock with your 
phone.

  I have a Weiser electronic lock at my retail store which was actually 
installed by my alarm company and which has a keypad, but it also connects 
via the Zigbbee protocol to my alarm panel so I can unlock it via the alarm 
app remotely.

  At home we just recently purchased a Schlage Sense smartlock which has 
home kit support. This means you can unlock it by telling SIRI “Unlock my 
front door” or from the home app. It has also a keypad, but it’s a 
touchscreen so you’d have to put at least a dot on the 5 or maybe put a 
tactile dot on the 1, 3, 5, 7 and 9 to be able to use it manually.

  Before we bought it we had a Schlage electronic lock on the front door and 
I really like it, too. It has a lock button at the top and underneat two 
rows of buttons, 1 to 5 and 6 to 0. The lock button is above the 3, so in 
the middle above the two number rows. This particular lock (forgot the 
model) doesn’t actually have a motor so the single 9 Volt battery lasts 
forever because all it does is to engage a deadbolt which you turn by hand 
to lock and unlock the door. Less high tech, but also completely reliable 
and we now moved this lock to our patio door.

  If there are still fingerprint locks around I really advise you to stay 
away from them, if you don’t want to spend too much then you can get a lock 
like that electronic Schlage with the keypad I described for around $100 and 
it’s super-easy to use, you can program multiple codes and it’s easy  to 
program it without sight, all you need to know is the master/programming 
code which you can customize and then you of course need to write down the 
basic commands for adding or removing a code. It's usually something like 
enter the master code and press the lock button, then press 1 to add a code 
followed by the lock button, then enter a 4-digit code, press the lock 
button and re-enter it. This is just an example, but it’s that type of 
sequence.

  I am not sure if this particular Schlage can do one-time codes, but before 
we got the smartlock at my store we had a electronic keypad lock from Tamor. 
That one you could set a mastercode anywhere from 4 to 8 digits long and 
user codes then had to be the same length which means if you think a 4-digit 
code might be too insecure this one is nice because you can do a 5 or 7 
digit code which is more unusual. Anyhow, that one also allowed for one-time 
codes so if, for example, you wanted to give a plumber or electrician or a 
friend access to your house without giving them a permanent code, you could 
set up a one-time code and once it got used once it would no longer work. Of 
course with a smartlock this functionality is even further expanded, you can 
give your dog walker who picks up your dog every weekday between 8 and 8:30 
AM a code which only works during that time or you could simply ask them to 
call you when they are at the door and you can then unlock the door 
remotely.



  Best regards,

  Sieghard



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Cris Ali
  Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 8:50 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Door locks with fingerprint technology with Bluetooth and 
accessible app?



  Hello Folks,

  Since I have the tendency to lock myself out from time to time, I thought 
I should explore the possibility of getting a door lock that works on 
fingerprint.  But It must have a Bluetooth connection to the phone so that I 
can do the settings, or change them when I want to, provided that the App is 
accessible with voiceover..

  Are you guys aware of any such product?



  Cheers,



  Cris





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Re: Door locks with fingerprint technology with Bluetooth and accessible app?

[Kimberly]

These locks are quite accessible as Sieghard describes. We have one with a 
touch screen which I can unlock with my iPhone or an actual key. The lock on 
our backdoor has a tactile keypad. Neither lock was all that expensive and 
booth are programmable. For example, the code for our housecleaners works only 
on Thursday afternoon and the code for the pet sitter is active only while we 
are on vacation.


I highly recommend these locks.

Sent from Kimber's iPhone
The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we go 
on.—Annie Proulx

> On Jan 13, 2018, at 12:18 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Not any more, quite a few electronic lock companies made fingerprint 
> doorlocks years ago, I had one and so did a friend of mine, and they were the 
> biggest pain in the neck.
> Depending on how much you want to spend, you are much better off with an 
> electronic lock with a keypad or a smartlock which you can unlock with your 
> phone.
> I have a Weiser electronic lock at my retail store which was actually 
> installed by my alarm company and which has a keypad, but it also connects 
> via the Zigbbee protocol to my alarm panel so I can unlock it via the alarm 
> app remotely.
> At home we just recently purchased a Schlage Sense smartlock which has home 
> kit support. This means you can unlock it by telling SIRI “Unlock my front 
> door” or from the home app. It has also a keypad, but it’s a touchscreen so 
> you’d have to put at least a dot on the 5 or maybe put a tactile dot on the 
> 1, 3, 5, 7 and 9 to be able to use it manually.
> Before we bought it we had a Schlage electronic lock on the front door and I 
> really like it, too. It has a lock button at the top and underneat two rows 
> of buttons, 1 to 5 and 6 to 0. The lock button is above the 3, so in the 
> middle above the two number rows. This particular lock (forgot the model) 
> doesn’t actually have a motor so the single 9 Volt battery lasts forever 
> because all it does is to engage a deadbolt which you turn by hand to lock 
> and unlock the door. Less high tech, but also completely reliable and we now 
> moved this lock to our patio door.
> If there are still fingerprint locks around I really advise you to stay away 
> from them, if you don’t want to spend too much then you can get a lock like 
> that electronic Schlage with the keypad I described for around $100 and it’s 
> super-easy to use, you can program multiple codes and it’s easy  to program 
> it without sight, all you need to know is the master/programming code which 
> you can customize and then you of course need to write down the basic 
> commands for adding or removing a code. It's usually something like enter the 
> master code and press the lock button, then press 1 to add a code followed by 
> the lock button, then enter a 4-digit code, press the lock button and 
> re-enter it. This is just an example, but it’s that type of sequence.
> I am not sure if this particular Schlage can do one-time codes, but before we 
> got the smartlock at my store we had a electronic keypad lock from Tamor. 
> That one you could set a mastercode anywhere from 4 to 8 digits long and user 
> codes then had to be the same length which means if you think a 4-digit code 
> might be too insecure this one is nice because you can do a 5 or 7 digit code 
> which is more unusual. Anyhow, that one also allowed for one-time codes so 
> if, for example, you wanted to give a plumber or electrician or a friend 
> access to your house without giving them a permanent code, you could set up a 
> one-time code and once it got used once it would no longer work. Of course 
> with a smartlock this functionality is even further expanded, you can give 
> your dog walker who picks up your dog every weekday between 8 and 8:30 AM a 
> code which only works during that time or you could simply ask them to call 
> you when they are at the door and you can then unlock the door remotely.
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Cris Ali
> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 8:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Door locks with fingerprint technology with Bluetooth and accessible 
> app?
>  
> Hello Folks,
> Since I have the tendency to lock myself out from time to time, I thought I 
> should explore the possibility of getting a door lock that works on 
> fingerprint.  But It must have a Bluetooth connection to the phone so that I 
> can do the settings, or change them when I want to, provided that the App is 
> accessible with voiceover..
> Are you guys aware of any such product?
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Cris
>  
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Re: Phone pricing/upgrading, was: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time

[Deidre Muccio]

I want to move to Canada! Too bad it's a little colder there than where I am in 
Massachusetts. I need to come up there and start exploring around! Anyway nice 
post. I especially like your comment about touch screen commands and being able 
to activate something while the phone is in your pocket. I really don't have 
any use for myself or any of the added features on smart phones because I don't 
do banking or anything particularly sophisticated  on my phone. My favorite 
apps our podcast calendar Facebook that all the reading programs for the blind, 
Scanning programs, tune in radio, camera photos is great but honestly just just 
don't have any use for much more than that. I really wish there was not this 
continual race to upgrade, Or let me just say that it  holds no use for me 
personally.

Deidre


> On Jan 13, 2018, at 12:37 AM, Cristóbal  wrote:
> 
> That and with the rumored second gen SE phone, upgrading for better 
> performance without having to pay a premium price for features that we may 
> not be able to use to its fullest at a more reasonable amount becomes a much 
> more attractive option.  
> The wife's got the latest iPad Pro and is perfectly happy with her SE. If 
> another SE comes out, I'm probably going to give that one a hard look-see 
> since I prefer the smaller size and am loathed to give up the finger print 
> feature. She prefers to upgrade her iPad from time to time rather than having 
> the latest and greatest phone. She's probably going to keep that phone till 
> it gives up the ghost. We'll likely get the batteries swapped out this year 
> so that'll only help too.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 8:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Phone pricing/upgrading, was: Harming battery if left on a charger 
> all the time
> 
> The fact is that if you upgrade every year one way or another the carrier or 
> Apple or whoever flips the bill on the phone will make you pay and just like 
> a Casino, the house always wins. I guess if a new phone every year is your 
> thing then it's probably worth it for you. Since I bought my first iPhone 4 
> in 2010 I upgraded once the next year and that was in 2011 when the iPhone 4S 
> with SIRI came out. After that I always kept my phone for 2 years, my next on 
> was a 5S in 2013 and then a 6S Plus in 2015. This time for the first time I 
> am keeping my 6S Plus for a third year and given how much I like that phone, 
> how well it works and considering that at some point this year I'll pay Apple 
> the $35 Canadian to get a new battery put in I might very well keep it for a 
> fourth year when this fall comes around. Apple must do something pretty cool 
> this fall to make me upgrade, yes, wireless charging is tempting, but while 
> Face Id is cool, I also really like Touch Id and how it allows me to unlock 
> my phone while it's in my belt holster or inside my jacket pocket.
> As the phones mature and truly revolutionary designs and features don't 
> happen as often I find the need to upgrade less urgent. My wife has a 6S and 
> we are both out of contract and with an MVNO here in Canada, Koodo, where we 
> have unlimited Canada wide calling and texting along with basic voice mail 
> and 6 Gb of data each for $49 + taxes, total of $54.88. Recently all 3 of the 
> large carriers, Rogers, Bell and Telus, offered a promo which lasted only a 
> few days and for $60 you were able to get the unlimited calling and texting 
> along with 10 Gb of data which isn't bad at all, but we rarely use even 2 Gb 
> a month unless we are away for a longer period of time and even then 6 Gb is 
> quite a bit. The usual price here in Canada for something like what we have 
> is at least $30 a month more if you are on a 2-year contract, this means over 
> 2 years that is 720 and if I keep my phone for a third year that goes up to 
> $1,080 which means I save the full purchase price of an iPhone 8 in that 
> time. 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Victor Gouveia
> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 8:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time
> 
> Those are not leases, those are commitments and usually go with plans.
> 
> I was under the impression these device leases were separate from the plan, 
> and one gets to upgrade every year or new release, which ever comes first.
> 
> What you describe is no different from the contracts currently offered now. 
> Is this new terminology being used for commitments or contracts?
> 
> Victor
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Robin Frost
> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 11:09 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time
> 
> Hi,
> It is through my 

Re: Phone pricing/upgrading, was: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time

[Gerardo Corripio]

Yes exactly more or less premium features is why this coming November when my 
plan is renewed, I’m kind of starting to do research on what the best phone 
would be? I’m between the SE series with smaller screen, lacking 3D touch and 
others, versus taking advantage of the 6S,&7 series with 3D touch and other 
more-advanced features. If the 2nd Generation SE would include 3D tuch, 
probably, but otherwise, part of me is still debating with which line to go 
with! Thanks for tips.
And also some of you guys have talked about having to go with the competition 
because of the prices? That’s exactly what happened with AT IN APRIL2015 WHEN 
MY IPHONE 3GS HIT THE DUST, AND IT CAME TIME TO UPGRADE MY PLAN; BECAUSE THE 4S 
WAS KIND OF EXPENSIVE FOR THE FAMILY BUDGET, I HAD TO FORCEFULLY SWITCH, BUT NO 
GO! SEVERAL MONTHS LATER, I WAS BACK IN THE IOS WORLD, WITH A USED 4S AND HAVE 
NEVER LOOKED BACK! I DON’T WANT TO COME ACROSS AN APPLE FAN BOY, BUT THATS FOR 
ANOTHER LIST AND THREAD MY IMPRESSIONS OF ONE VERSUS THE OTHERS.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel

El 13/01/2018, a la(s) 1:44 a. m., lenron brown  escribió:

> I really love my touch ID so I am going to stick with this IPhone
> 7plus for as long as I Need an IOS device. Especially since it's
> completely paid off. The 8plus would pretty much be this phone with
> not many upgrades. So unless there is a new phone that's better with
> touch ID this year I am good.
> 
>> On 1/12/18, Cristóbal  wrote:
>> That and with the rumored second gen SE phone, upgrading for better
>> performance without having to pay a premium price for features that we may
>> not be able to use to its fullest at a more reasonable amount becomes a much
>> more attractive option.
>> The wife's got the latest iPad Pro and is perfectly happy with her SE. If
>> another SE comes out, I'm probably going to give that one a hard look-see
>> since I prefer the smaller size and am loathed to give up the finger print
>> feature. She prefers to upgrade her iPad from time to time rather than
>> having the latest and greatest phone. She's probably going to keep that
>> phone till it gives up the ghost. We'll likely get the batteries swapped out
>> this year so that'll only help too.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 8:59 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Phone pricing/upgrading, was: Harming battery if left on a charger
>> all the time
>> 
>> The fact is that if you upgrade every year one way or another the carrier or
>> Apple or whoever flips the bill on the phone will make you pay and just like
>> a Casino, the house always wins. I guess if a new phone every year is your
>> thing then it's probably worth it for you. Since I bought my first iPhone 4
>> in 2010 I upgraded once the next year and that was in 2011 when the iPhone
>> 4S with SIRI came out. After that I always kept my phone for 2 years, my
>> next on was a 5S in 2013 and then a 6S Plus in 2015. This time for the first
>> time I am keeping my 6S Plus for a third year and given how much I like that
>> phone, how well it works and considering that at some point this year I'll
>> pay Apple the $35 Canadian to get a new battery put in I might very well
>> keep it for a fourth year when this fall comes around. Apple must do
>> something pretty cool this fall to make me upgrade, yes, wireless charging
>> is tempting, but while Face Id is cool, I also really like Touch Id and how
>> it allows me to unlock my phone while it's in my belt holster or inside my
>> jacket pocket.
>> As the phones mature and truly revolutionary designs and features don't
>> happen as often I find the need to upgrade less urgent. My wife has a 6S and
>> we are both out of contract and with an MVNO here in Canada, Koodo, where we
>> have unlimited Canada wide calling and texting along with basic voice mail
>> and 6 Gb of data each for $49 + taxes, total of $54.88. Recently all 3 of
>> the large carriers, Rogers, Bell and Telus, offered a promo which lasted
>> only a few days and for $60 you were able to get the unlimited calling and
>> texting along with 10 Gb of data which isn't bad at all, but we rarely use
>> even 2 Gb a month unless we are away for a longer period of time and even
>> then 6 Gb is quite a bit. The usual price here in Canada for something like
>> what we have is at least $30 a month more if you are on a 2-year contract,
>> this means over 2 years that is 720 and if I keep my phone for a third year
>> that goes up to $1,080 which means I save the full purchase price of an
>> iPhone 8 in that time.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Victor Gouveia
>> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 8:34 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Harming battery 

Re: Watch series 2 very sluggish lately

['Gary Robinson' via VIPhone]

Hi Ioana,


yes, my wife and I both have series 2 watches bought earlier this year 
and have been experiencing exactly the same issues.


It is particularly bad on the workout app which seems to hang for 
several seconds, it is ok if you just leave it and let it get on with it 
but if you tap or swipe too soon the watch seems to get in a mess.


I have found re-booting the watch seems to improve the speed slightly 
but I feel somewhat aggrieved that such a new watch is already suffering 
from a performance degradation after just one major OS upgrade.



Gary
On 1/12/2018 9:59 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:

Hi all,

Since watch OS 4 and maybe even more after some of the incremental updates to 
4.1 or 4.2 my watch series 2 is very slow to wake. I tap the screen and only 
hear a ding if I flick left and right. It's often impossible to quickly read a 
notification etc. Is this happening to anyone else? Any solution?
I know that older devices get slower as you update os but I would have hoped 
that the watch does not suffer same fate in such an extreme fashion.
Thanks for your help and comments,


Ioana


Sent from my iPhone



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Re: Hang outs

[Rajiv Shah]

Cliff,You visit http://hangouts.google.com and log in with your Gmail 
credentials.Rajiv

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 06:05:07 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Hang outs

Is there a Mac app for hangouts?
> On Jan 12, 2018, at 6:14 PM, Chip Orange  wrote:
> 
> Yes, I did try the Google hangout software for an iPhone to Android video 
> call chat ... then Google came out with a specific app to do just this 
> (called Google Duo), so I think it's likely to be better to use it for 
> cross-platform video calls rather than Google Hangouts.
> 
> Chip
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Terri Stimmel
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Hang outs
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> I have been asked a couple of times now, if I can chat, using Hang Outs.
> 
> 
> So I was wondering, with an iPhone is this at all possible?
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Terri
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Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time

[Gerardo Corripio]

And here in Mexico, it’s Virgen. And speaking of upgrades on iPhones, Telcel 
(in the US., it’s Straitalk, or when a Telcel customer goes over there, the 
phome’s Network status says T Mobil), Telcel too has post-paid plans in which 
you get phones at reduced prices: this 5s for instance, in stores, it costs 
(back in November2016 at least, the equivalent of USD$300 (Mx6000), and in 
Telcel with the plan I currently have, paying the phone outright made the price 
lower to the equivalent of USD$250 (MX$4800) THUS WITH THE REMAINING MX$1200, 
helped in paying 6 months of the plan. This November my 24-month plan needs 
renewal, nd the right to a newer phone. So yes I understand what you guys are 
talking about plans, phones at reduced prices and the like. Out of the 3 main 
carriers here (elcel, AT and Movilstar(Telefónica) I’ve found that Telcel has 
the most deals on lans and phones. Oh and also what helps is during the plan, 
you get points for each monthly bill (as long as you don’t go over) which you 
save, for more reduced-prices on phones! So that’s a help as well! That’s why 
I’m saying that Telcel is the more-friendly of the carriers when it comes to 
plans, upgrades and the like as has been my experiences since 2012 July with my 
iPhones; I was first with AT/T but switched over to Telcel some years after 
because of AT not having these opportunities in getting new phones at reduced 
prices.exprTeefonica )

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel

El 13/01/2018, a la(s) 12:44 a. m., Sieghard Weitzel  
escribió:

> It means "Mobil Virtual Network Operator".
> These are companies like Koodo, Virgin or Fido here in Canada who are mobil 
> carriers, but they don't have their own networks/infrastructure but lease 
> wireless telephone and data services from Bell, Roger and Telus.
> Unfortunately here in Canada each of the big 3 owns one of the MVNO's, Bell 
> owns Virgin, Rogers owns Fido and Telus owns Koodo and this does somewhat 
> reduce the competitive edge these MVNO's bring to other markets.
> I think out east you have Wind mobil and maybe a couple of others who are 
> still independent.
> In the States there is a whole bunch of MVNO's, Consumer Cellular, Cricket, 
> FreedomPop, Straight Talk are some of the more well-known companies, some 
> like Straight Talk offer service on all 4 major networks, AT, Sprint, 
> T-Mobil and Verizon.
> According to this Wikipedia article about the List of United States MVNO's 
> there are over 90 of them.
> Most countries in Europe also have a bunch of them which results in much 
> greater competition hence usually lower prices. Canada is often mentioned as 
> having some of the most expensive internet, wireless phone and TV service and 
> that might be true, but one thing one should not forget is that it is of 
> course easier to maintain all that infrastructure and have a lot of customers 
> in countries which are much smaller and have a lot more population. Our 
> carriers also are expected to provide service in all these remote places 
> where they only have a few customers and that is not easy.
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Victor Gouveia
> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 10:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time
>  
> Robin,, I noticed you used the same term in your message as Sieghard did, 
> "MVNO".
>  
> What does that term mean?
>  
> Victor
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: Robin Frost
> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 12:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time
>  
> Hi,
> No worries that's why I included a laugh in parentheses in lieu of an 
> emoticon.  I'm just glad there are many choices to suit different 
> circumstances and tastes. MBNO's, prepaid plans, lease like or payment plan 
> type contracts or the ability to not succumb to the latest and greatest.
> whether it's with off the shelf tech or blind specific devices I'm just glad 
> for as many options as humanly possible. That is always a good thing as is 
> saving money or at the very least fitting comfortably into one's budget too.
> Take good care.
> Robin
>  
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: Victor Gouveia
> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 12:40 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time
>  
> Robin, didn't mean to offer any offence, I honestly thought there was some 
> leasing plan offered by the manufacturer that allowed you to lease your phone 
> for a certain amount every month, then upgrade when a new iteration of your 
> device was released, sort of like I had wish that Window eyes would do, until 
> they quickly went out of business when my Jaws SMA was up.  LOL.
>  
> I was also saying this because if the manufacturers were offering such an 
> offer, I 

Re: Hang outs

[Kliphton Miller]

Is there a Mac app for hangouts?
> On Jan 12, 2018, at 6:14 PM, Chip Orange  wrote:
> 
> Yes, I did try the Google hangout software for an iPhone to Android video 
> call chat ... then Google came out with a specific app to do just this 
> (called Google Duo), so I think it's likely to be better to use it for 
> cross-platform video calls rather than Google Hangouts.
> 
> Chip
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Terri Stimmel
> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 1:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Hang outs
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> I have been asked a couple of times now, if I can chat, using Hang Outs.
> 
> 
> So I was wondering, with an iPhone is this at all possible?
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Terri
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Re: New Battery Technology - Was: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

Lithium-Titanate is the big story in big batteries.  China has a rechargeable 
electric ship, spoilt by carrying something completely 
unecological.

RobH.

Ps:  L-T batteries are, or are round here, the size of a trailer mounted 
shipping container, and used in local power sub-bstations 
to kick in to cover power spikes,  yet charge off the grid in between. i.e:  
about 30ft long by 9ft sq on the ends and run in kv 
with out put quoted in the low Mw(megawatts) range.
- Original Message - 
From: "Bill Gallik" 
To: "viPhone E-Mail List" 
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 2:01 AM
Subject: New Battery Technology - Was: Harming battery if left on a charger all 
the time


Last winter I read an article in Science News concerning the 
soon-to-be-on-the-market new battery technologies.  If memory serves 
me, one of these technologies is a Sodium-Ion battery.  There was a second very 
promising technology also being touted; this one was 
some sort of Lithium-Something-or-other technology.  Hmmm, maybe it was 
Lithium-Sodium but I don’t remember - suppose I should go do 
some googling before posting such an e-mail.

But, the gist of that article is that are new battery technologies coming down 
the pike that will offer significantly more charge 
retention and recharge cycles than even the current Lithium-Ion technology.  
The rub, these technologies needed to pass the safety 
thresh-hold where they do not blow up or break into fire.  After reading that 
article, I marveled that even our familiar Lithium-Ion 
batteries are not more volatile; but that technology has passed the 
fore-mentioned safety test for the most part.  The batteries 
that were breaking into flame were indeed faulty construction not maintaining 
appropriate isolation between the Lithium and Ion 
components.

I just this might be of interest considering the thread from whence this 
appeared.


- Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
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