Re: Why it's meaningless to accept a privacy policy, cNet

[Jewel]

Maybe, others living in New Zealand have had more than I, but this person has 
had only one:  from 
Google:  and that one she ignored.



   Jewel
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Subject: Why it's meaningless to accept a privacy policy, cNet

Why it's meaningless to accept a GDPR privacy policy
You're drowning in these thanks to the GDPR. But they leave out something
important.
By Laura Hautala, May 25, 2018 8:52 AM PDT

The European Union's General Protection Privacy Regulation takes effect
Friday, and your email inbox has been slowly choking on alerts about the new
privacy law.
You know, the dozens of privacy policy updates you've probably received in
the past few weeks. I'm talking about updates from email providers, social
media companies, banks and what seems like every random internet service
you've ever interacted with -- all letting you know how they're collecting
and using your data.
But here's the thing: When you click "accept" on a privacy policy, even if
you've read it from start to finish, you're most likely still in the dark
about what you're consenting to. That's because privacy policies don't
really tell you about all the things that can be done with your data. With
statistical analysis and, more recently, artificial intelligence, companies
that have your data can draw all kinds of inferences about you. And they use
that in ways you might never predict.
Using information about your browsing habits -- including products you've
shopped for, websites you've visited and search terms you've used --
companies can make informed guesses about your age, location, marital status
and, according to one infamous New York Times report, whether you're
pregnant.
"The typical consumer has no idea how this happens," said Lorrie Cranor,
director of the Carnegie Mellon Usable Privacy and Security Laboratory, who
served as head technologist at the US Fair Trade Commission under President
Barack Obama.
Cue the GDPR, a new law that gives EU residents more say in how their data
gets used. The trouble is, the law doesn't apply to anyone outside of the
EU.
Making inferences from your data
Privacy policies don't make it easy to wrap our minds around how data
collection can affect us. To start with, many internet users don't
understand how data collection tools work.
That's what researchers at Syracuse University and Sapienza University of
Rome concluded after speaking with people who thought their antivirus
software could stop websites and advertisers from tracking their browsing
activity. That's reasonable, but it's also wrong.
Researchers and journalists have also found some clues as to how personal
data collection can have negative consequences, intentional or not. They did
it by creating fake ads and accounts, and seeing what tech companies did
with the data.
Reporters from ProPublica, for example, bought housing-related ads on
Facebook that excluded groups from Facebook-assigned "ethnic affinity
groups." This appeared to fly in the face of housing laws that prohibit
discrimination on the basis or race or ethnicity. The findings prompted
Facebook to stop advertisers from excluding ethnic groups from seeing
certain types of ads.
And researchers at Carnegie Mellon University created fake user accounts and
collected information on Google display ads to see indications that men were
able to view job ads that women couldn't. Google attributed the findings to
factors that weren't based on gender, like an advertiser targeting websites
visited primarily by men.
Cranor said companies don't need AI in order to know to know what they do
about us. Good old-fashioned statistics can get number-crunchers pretty far
in predicting your interests. Things can really heat up when you "add AI to
the mix," she said, and that's when "you're going to see even more powerful
predictions."
This is what has privacy experts like Cranor concerned.
New power in the EU
The GDPR could make things more transparent for residents of the EU. The law
gives people the right to specify how they want their data used. That means
EU residents can say, "Sure, collect my data, but don't use it to tailor ads
for me."
They can also request copies of all the data a company has collected about
them and ask companies to delete their data. The fines for breaking the law
are steep -- up to 40 million euros or 2 percent of a company's annual
global revenue, whichever is higher.

The law is prompting updated privacy policies for the rest of us outside of
Europe -- and not a whole lot else. Yes, some companies including Microsoft,
Apple, Twitter and Facebook have indicated they'll extend at least some
GDPR-based rights to all their global users. But that's not the same.
As Forrester analyst Fatemeh Khatibloo pointed out, the European Union isn't
going to step in on your behalf if one of these companies doesn't live up to
its promises.
"If 

Why it's meaningless to accept a privacy policy, cNet

[M. Taylor]

Why it's meaningless to accept a GDPR privacy policy
You're drowning in these thanks to the GDPR. But they leave out something
important.
By Laura Hautala, May 25, 2018 8:52 AM PDT

The European Union's General Protection Privacy Regulation takes effect
Friday, and your email inbox has been slowly choking on alerts about the new
privacy law. 
You know, the dozens of privacy policy updates you've probably received in
the past few weeks. I'm talking about updates from email providers, social
media companies, banks and what seems like every random internet service
you've ever interacted with -- all letting you know how they're collecting
and using your data. 
But here's the thing: When you click "accept" on a privacy policy, even if
you've read it from start to finish, you're most likely still in the dark
about what you're consenting to. That's because privacy policies don't
really tell you about all the things that can be done with your data. With
statistical analysis and, more recently, artificial intelligence, companies
that have your data can draw all kinds of inferences about you. And they use
that in ways you might never predict. 
Using information about your browsing habits -- including products you've
shopped for, websites you've visited and search terms you've used --
companies can make informed guesses about your age, location, marital status
and, according to one infamous New York Times report, whether you're
pregnant. 
"The typical consumer has no idea how this happens," said Lorrie Cranor,
director of the Carnegie Mellon Usable Privacy and Security Laboratory, who
served as head technologist at the US Fair Trade Commission under President
Barack Obama. 
Cue the GDPR, a new law that gives EU residents more say in how their data
gets used. The trouble is, the law doesn't apply to anyone outside of the
EU. 
Making inferences from your data 
Privacy policies don't make it easy to wrap our minds around how data
collection can affect us. To start with, many internet users don't
understand how data collection tools work. 
That's what researchers at Syracuse University and Sapienza University of
Rome concluded after speaking with people who thought their antivirus
software could stop websites and advertisers from tracking their browsing
activity. That's reasonable, but it's also wrong.
Researchers and journalists have also found some clues as to how personal
data collection can have negative consequences, intentional or not. They did
it by creating fake ads and accounts, and seeing what tech companies did
with the data. 
Reporters from ProPublica, for example, bought housing-related ads on
Facebook that excluded groups from Facebook-assigned "ethnic affinity
groups." This appeared to fly in the face of housing laws that prohibit
discrimination on the basis or race or ethnicity. The findings prompted
Facebook to stop advertisers from excluding ethnic groups from seeing
certain types of ads. 
And researchers at Carnegie Mellon University created fake user accounts and
collected information on Google display ads to see indications that men were
able to view job ads that women couldn't. Google attributed the findings to
factors that weren't based on gender, like an advertiser targeting websites
visited primarily by men.   
Cranor said companies don't need AI in order to know to know what they do
about us. Good old-fashioned statistics can get number-crunchers pretty far
in predicting your interests. Things can really heat up when you "add AI to
the mix," she said, and that's when "you're going to see even more powerful
predictions." 
This is what has privacy experts like Cranor concerned. 
New power in the EU 
The GDPR could make things more transparent for residents of the EU. The law
gives people the right to specify how they want their data used. That means
EU residents can say, "Sure, collect my data, but don't use it to tailor ads
for me." 
They can also request copies of all the data a company has collected about
them and ask companies to delete their data. The fines for breaking the law
are steep -- up to 40 million euros or 2 percent of a company's annual
global revenue, whichever is higher. 

The law is prompting updated privacy policies for the rest of us outside of
Europe -- and not a whole lot else. Yes, some companies including Microsoft,
Apple, Twitter and Facebook have indicated they'll extend at least some
GDPR-based rights to all their global users. But that's not the same. 
As Forrester analyst Fatemeh Khatibloo pointed out, the European Union isn't
going to step in on your behalf if one of these companies doesn't live up to
its promises. 
"If you're on North American soil, GDPR doesn't apply to you," she said.  
First published May 25, 5:00 a.m. PT
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Re: What to do when speaker comes on in call, and I can't get it off?

[Arnold Schmidt]

You don't put your finger over the speaker, rather, the place that normally is 
against your ear. There is a sensor in there that is supposed to be able to 
tell when it is against your ear. I touch this area, and rub my finger back and 
forth a time or two, and it usually behaves itself for a while after that. 

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On May 24, 2018, at 6:27 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

I did take it away from my ear. I never thought of putting my finger over the 
speaker. 

A guy on another list said to press the Lock Button. Would that disconnect a 
call? 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Subject: Re: What to do when speaker comes on in call, and I can't get it off?

I take it away from my ear and then put it back a lot of times that will solve 
it. Other times, I’ll take it away from my ear, put my finger over the speaker 
part that goes to that year, and release it and it put it back. It’s strange, 
when Wade does not work all the time.


Joney
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On May 24, 2018, at 2:34 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net 
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   So, there is my question in the subject line. Fortunately, I had a headset, 
which I connected, solved the ambient problem, but not the phone issue. My 
phone seemed to be getting hot before the speaker came on.





   

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RE: Gmail app

[David Moore]

I listened again, and you mean the gmail app.
I have two Gmail accounts, and I import them into the Mail app that I talk 
about in the message below. My bad. I did not know that there is a special app 
for Gmail.
I learned something.
Take care.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Daniel McGee
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 6:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Gmail app

Hi Judy 

Actually you can use multiple email accounts with the gmail app.

If you are happy with the way you are currently accessing your email, then I 
see no reason to switch to another app even if Google says it. 

However, if you like to try out different apps, then I say go for it! 

We all have choices and regardless of weather you stay with your current setup 
or use another email app, you will eventually decide based on your own 
judgement. 

I wish you well in finding the right email choice that suits you. 

Kind regards 

Daniel 

> On 25 May 2018, at 22:34, Judy Pryor  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,  I have got an email from gmail pressing me to get the gmail app.  
> I am happy with the way I use gmail now as I can see all my mail in one 
> place.  I presume if I use the app it would only be the gmail account I could 
> use in the app.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Judy
> 
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RE: Gmail app

[David Moore]

Hi Judy!
I use the Win10 mail app with four different email accounts!
I really like it, it is so simple and easy to use if all you do is send, reply, 
forward, and send an occasional attachment.
You can spell check and more with the Mail app.
I use it, however, on a Windows 10 laptop, and I am not sure if you are talking 
about the same thing, because this is a phone list.
I have a tutorial for the Windows 10 Mail app.
David Moore
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From: Daniel McGee
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 6:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Gmail app

Hi Judy 

Actually you can use multiple email accounts with the gmail app.

If you are happy with the way you are currently accessing your email, then I 
see no reason to switch to another app even if Google says it. 

However, if you like to try out different apps, then I say go for it! 

We all have choices and regardless of weather you stay with your current setup 
or use another email app, you will eventually decide based on your own 
judgement. 

I wish you well in finding the right email choice that suits you. 

Kind regards 

Daniel 

> On 25 May 2018, at 22:34, Judy Pryor  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,  I have got an email from gmail pressing me to get the gmail app.  
> I am happy with the way I use gmail now as I can see all my mail in one 
> place.  I presume if I use the app it would only be the gmail account I could 
> use in the app.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Judy
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> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Gmail app

[Daniel McGee]

Hi Judy 

Actually you can use multiple email accounts with the gmail app.

If you are happy with the way you are currently accessing your email, then I 
see no reason to switch to another app even if Google says it. 

However, if you like to try out different apps, then I say go for it! 

We all have choices and regardless of weather you stay with your current setup 
or use another email app, you will eventually decide based on your own 
judgement. 

I wish you well in finding the right email choice that suits you. 

Kind regards 

Daniel 

> On 25 May 2018, at 22:34, Judy Pryor  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,  I have got an email from gmail pressing me to get the gmail app.  
> I am happy with the way I use gmail now as I can see all my mail in one 
> place.  I presume if I use the app it would only be the gmail account I could 
> use in the app.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Judy
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Gmail app

[Judy Pryor]

Hello all,  I have got an email from gmail pressing me to get the gmail app.  I 
am happy with the way I use gmail now as I can see all my mail in one place.  I 
presume if I use the app it would only be the gmail account I could use in the 
app.

Regards

Judy

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Accessible Instapaper alternative

[Cristóbal]

Hello list,

Was wondering if anyone can recommend any screen reader accessible
Instapaper alternatives?

I in general like Instapaper and have used it for a while now, but there are
some accessibility issues on the website that have never gotten fixed and I
think I’m at the point where I want to try something else.

It’s too bad as the iOS app is very accessible and having a nice
cross-plaftform service where one can save and sort articles and whatnot for
later reading/researching is a bigtime help. I know there’s Pocket, but I
don’t know if I want to pay $50 a year to go add free and whatever other
perks they offer.

So… if there’s something that replicates what Instapaper or Pocket can do
and is accessible, I’d appreciate the input. Ideally, an iOS app too.

 

Thanks,

Cristobal

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RE: Apple Watch randomly locking itself.

[Jennie Facer]

Hi Mark,

I reboot my watch every day also and I still have this problem. I can be 
anywhere in my watch and it will go to sleep for no reason.

Jenn

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 11:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Watch randomly locking itself.

Hi Sieghard,

Yeah!  It's weird that I have not yet experienced this.  However, you can be 
certain that I am now on the look-out for it.

Perhaps my experience has something to do with the fact that I reboot my watch 
at the beginning of every day?  Just a guess.

Mark


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 7:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Watch randomly locking itself.

There is and it is set to I think 15 seconds on my watch and it locks whenever 
it wants. Mark, you must be the only person I have heard from who doesn't have 
the issue of the watch randomly locking. Like I said, sometimes I press the 
button to unlock it and it instantly locks again or it does after just a few 
seconds. At times I do something and maybe I want to change watch faces so I 
get ready for a 2-finger swipe left to right or vice versa except by the time I 
start the watch has locked itself again.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
Reyes
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 3:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Watch randomly locking itself.

i'm curious to see if there is a setting for auto lock like on the iPhone? 

Sent from my sprint iPhone X!!!

> On May 24, 2018, at 1:49 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> This is very interesting.  
> 
> As far as I am aware, I have never experienced this bug on my Series 2.  Nor, 
> it seems, can I reproduce it.  I have the latest software installed.
> 
> I have wrist detection enabled.  
> 
> So curious.  
> 
> Perhaps I do not fully understand the nature of this bug.  However, in my 
> experience, the watch behaves exactly as expected.  
> 
> Mark
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 10:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Watch randomly locking itself.
> 
> Hi Malcolm,
> 
> 
> I have had this problem on my series 2 watch pretty much since OS4 I think.
> 
> I have reset my watch from factory defaults with a complete rebuild to no 
> avail.  I guess there is a software bug.
> 
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
>> On 5/24/2018 4:55 PM, Anna Dresner wrote:
>> Hello, Malcolm,
>> 
>> I've had this problem with my previous watch and the Series 3 one I got last 
>> fall. I have no idea why it happens, unfortunately. It's certainly 
>> frustrating.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 24, 2018, at 8:33 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I wonder if anyone has experienced the problem I have with my Apple Watch.
>>> 
>>> If I unlock the watch before I can accomplish what I was going to do, say 
>>> starting a workout the watch has locked itself for no apparent reason.  
>>> This problem of the watch locking itself is quite regular and has no 
>>> logical cause as far as I can determine.
>>> 
>>> Before I go on a wild goos chase, reset the watch and restore it as a new 
>>> device in the hope it will resolve itself has anyone found a way around 
>>> this locking problem.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Malcolm
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Apple Watch randomly locking itself.

[M. Taylor]

Hi Sieghard,

Yeah!  It's weird that I have not yet experienced this.  However, you can be 
certain that I am now on the look-out for it.

Perhaps my experience has something to do with the fact that I reboot my watch 
at the beginning of every day?  Just a guess.

Mark


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 7:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Watch randomly locking itself.

There is and it is set to I think 15 seconds on my watch and it locks whenever 
it wants. Mark, you must be the only person I have heard from who doesn't have 
the issue of the watch randomly locking. Like I said, sometimes I press the 
button to unlock it and it instantly locks again or it does after just a few 
seconds. At times I do something and maybe I want to change watch faces so I 
get ready for a 2-finger swipe left to right or vice versa except by the time I 
start the watch has locked itself again.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
Reyes
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 3:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Watch randomly locking itself.

i'm curious to see if there is a setting for auto lock like on the iPhone? 

Sent from my sprint iPhone X!!!

> On May 24, 2018, at 1:49 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> This is very interesting.  
> 
> As far as I am aware, I have never experienced this bug on my Series 2.  Nor, 
> it seems, can I reproduce it.  I have the latest software installed.
> 
> I have wrist detection enabled.  
> 
> So curious.  
> 
> Perhaps I do not fully understand the nature of this bug.  However, in my 
> experience, the watch behaves exactly as expected.  
> 
> Mark
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 10:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Watch randomly locking itself.
> 
> Hi Malcolm,
> 
> 
> I have had this problem on my series 2 watch pretty much since OS4 I think.
> 
> I have reset my watch from factory defaults with a complete rebuild to no 
> avail.  I guess there is a software bug.
> 
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
>> On 5/24/2018 4:55 PM, Anna Dresner wrote:
>> Hello, Malcolm,
>> 
>> I've had this problem with my previous watch and the Series 3 one I got last 
>> fall. I have no idea why it happens, unfortunately. It's certainly 
>> frustrating.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 24, 2018, at 8:33 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I wonder if anyone has experienced the problem I have with my Apple Watch.
>>> 
>>> If I unlock the watch before I can accomplish what I was going to do, say 
>>> starting a workout the watch has locked itself for no apparent reason.  
>>> This problem of the watch locking itself is quite regular and has no 
>>> logical cause as far as I can determine.
>>> 
>>> Before I go on a wild goos chase, reset the watch and restore it as a new 
>>> device in the hope it will resolve itself has anyone found a way around 
>>> this locking problem.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Malcolm
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Daisy?

[Marco Chan]

Hi all,
I have the Easy Reader installed it is a great app.

God bless,
Marco

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 24, 2018, at 11:38 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Dolphin Easy Reader is a free app that reads DAISY and ePub and works 
> directly with many libraries for the blind worldwide. It's not so great for 
> braille displays, though, because each sentence is considered a separate 
> item, so a lot of braille display space is wasted.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 24, 2018, at 4:24 AM, Ian Harrison  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> not sure if you mean on windows only. The only reliable daisy reading app I 
>> have found is for IOS. It is called Voice Dream Reader and I import my RNIB 
>> daisy audio books into it. They work great. The app is not cheap, but it can 
>> read just about any format you can throw at it.
>> Cheers, Ian
>>> On 8 May 2018, at 16:59, Marco Chan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi folks,
>>> Is there any app that can play Daisy file? OrWindows PC?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Marco
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Something cool Amazon music

[Angela L Griffith]

That’s the problem with these things. You don’t actually know what you’re not 
getting, unless you have the opportunity to compare services.


Angela L Griffith
Sent from my mobile phone

> On May 25, 2018, at 1:23 AM, Robert Wright  wrote:
> 
> I just left Amazon music when I asked it to play an album and later looked 
> that album up on google and learned that Amazon only played half of the 
> album.i am now with Spotify.
>  
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>  
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 8:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Something cool Amazon music
>  
> And don't forget that not all of us live in the US or countries where you can 
> get this Amazon Music version which might be equivalent to Apple Music. Here 
> in Canada we only just last December got to buy the Amazon Echo speakers 
> officially, an Audible Canada website only was started last October and we 
> still don't have features such as family sharing accounts etc. We can now get 
> Amazon Music and videos with an Amazon Prime subscription, but when it comes 
> to music that includes about a Million songs which is pretty petty compared 
> to the 40 million Apple Music has or even Deezer and Spotify. Lastly, if you 
> want a family account where two or more people can have their own music, 
> preferences, recommendations and so on Apple Music for $14.99 a month for a 
> family subscription is a pretty good deal, most other services are $9.99 a 
> month and I don't even know if Spotify or Deezer offer a family plan where 
> you can sign in as different accounts yet it goes under one subscription.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Angela 
> L Griffith
> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 12:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Something cool Amazon music
>  
> Hmm, maybe I'm missing something, but I don't think amazon music works on an 
> Apple TV. But if you don't own one of those, then I guess you're good. :)
>  
> On 5/24/18, Gordon  wrote:
> > So Amazon music pushed an update this morning that's really cool. You
> > can speak to Alexa just like you would on your echo as long as the app
> > is open and the phone is unlocked. So if you want to skip a song
> > that's playing you can say Alexa and whatever command you want to
> > give. I prefer Amazon music over Apple music because it's one
> > subscription that will work on all of my devices.
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Re: Apple Watch randomly locking itself.

[Nimer Jaber]

Hello,

I have my watch to never lock unless I take it off my wrist, and it does
just that. I have never had it lock inadvertantly unless I took the watch
off.

Thanks.

On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 8:24 AM Paul Sandoval  wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> I know that my watch will lock when I drop my wrist, or if I flip my wrist
> away from me.
> I believe this behavior is correct. I admit it does lock before I’m ready
> sometimes, but I’ve usually moved my wrist slightly, and I’m again assuming
> the watch thinks I’ve dropped my wrist out of viewing position.
>
>
>
> > On May 24, 2018, at 11:49 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> >
> > Hello All,
> >
> > This is very interesting.
> >
> > As far as I am aware, I have never experienced this bug on my Series 2.
> Nor, it seems, can I reproduce it.  I have the latest software installed.
> >
> > I have wrist detection enabled.
> >
> > So curious.
> >
> > Perhaps I do not fully understand the nature of this bug.  However, in
> my experience, the watch behaves exactly as expected.
> >
> > Mark
> > -Original Message-
> > From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 10:03 AM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: Apple Watch randomly locking itself.
> >
> > Hi Malcolm,
> >
> >
> > I have had this problem on my series 2 watch pretty much since OS4 I
> think.
> >
> > I have reset my watch from factory defaults with a complete rebuild to
> no avail.  I guess there is a software bug.
> >
> >
> > Gary
> >
> >
> > On 5/24/2018 4:55 PM, Anna Dresner wrote:
> >> Hello, Malcolm,
> >>
> >> I've had this problem with my previous watch and the Series 3 one I got
> last fall. I have no idea why it happens, unfortunately. It's certainly
> frustrating.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Anna
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On May 24, 2018, at 8:33 AM, Malcolm Parfitt 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> I wonder if anyone has experienced the problem I have with my Apple
> Watch.
> >>>
> >>> If I unlock the watch before I can accomplish what I was going to do,
> say starting a workout the watch has locked itself for no apparent reason.
> This problem of the watch locking itself is quite regular and has no
> logical cause as far as I can determine.
> >>>
> >>> Before I go on a wild goos chase, reset the watch and restore it as a
> new device in the hope it will resolve itself has anyone found a way around
> this locking problem.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks.
> >>>
> >>> Malcolm
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Apple Watch randomly locking itself.

[Paul Sandoval]

Hey all,

I know that my watch will lock when I drop my wrist, or if I flip my wrist away 
from me. 
I believe this behavior is correct. I admit it does lock before I’m ready 
sometimes, but I’ve usually moved my wrist slightly, and I’m again assuming the 
watch thinks I’ve dropped my wrist out of viewing position. 



> On May 24, 2018, at 11:49 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> This is very interesting.  
> 
> As far as I am aware, I have never experienced this bug on my Series 2.  Nor, 
> it seems, can I reproduce it.  I have the latest software installed.
> 
> I have wrist detection enabled.  
> 
> So curious.  
> 
> Perhaps I do not fully understand the nature of this bug.  However, in my 
> experience, the watch behaves exactly as expected.  
> 
> Mark
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 10:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Watch randomly locking itself.
> 
> Hi Malcolm,
> 
> 
> I have had this problem on my series 2 watch pretty much since OS4 I think.
> 
> I have reset my watch from factory defaults with a complete rebuild to no 
> avail.  I guess there is a software bug.
> 
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
> On 5/24/2018 4:55 PM, Anna Dresner wrote:
>> Hello, Malcolm,
>> 
>> I've had this problem with my previous watch and the Series 3 one I got last 
>> fall. I have no idea why it happens, unfortunately. It's certainly 
>> frustrating.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 24, 2018, at 8:33 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I wonder if anyone has experienced the problem I have with my Apple Watch.
>>> 
>>> If I unlock the watch before I can accomplish what I was going to do, say 
>>> starting a workout the watch has locked itself for no apparent reason.  
>>> This problem of the watch locking itself is quite regular and has no 
>>> logical cause as far as I can determine.
>>> 
>>> Before I go on a wild goos chase, reset the watch and restore it as a new 
>>> device in the hope it will resolve itself has anyone found a way around 
>>> this locking problem.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Malcolm
>>> 
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Re: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to ios only

[Anouk Radix]

Great! Thanks,
Greetings,Anouk,

> Op 24 mei 2018, om 22:50 heeft Anna Dresner  het volgende 
> geschreven:
> 
> Hi Anouk,
> 
> Command-Up Arrow goes to the top, and Command-Down Arrow takes you to the end.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 24, 2018, at 12:19 PM, Anouk Radix  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Anna, How can you move to the beginning and end of a document using 
>> pages? Can this be done through the keyboard or do you need the touchscreen 
>> for that?
>> Greetings, Anouk,
>> 
>>> Op 24 mei 2018, om 19:05 heeft Anna Dresner  het 
>>> volgende geschreven:
>>> 
>>> Hi Sieghard and all,
>>> 
>>> I just tried using a bluetooth keyboard in Pages. I was able to add Shift 
>>> to commands to select words, characters and lines. For some reason, the 
>>> commands for moving to the beginning and end of a line didn't work, so 
>>> neither did those selection commands, but the others worked fine.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 24, 2018, at 11:48 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 
 There are commands for moving to the beginning or the end of a document, 
 but you can't select text the way you do in Windows. I am not aS 
 Pprofficient with bluetooth keyboard commands since all I use them for is 
 typing long text, but as far as I know you still have to change the rotor 
 to words if, for example, you want to go back a few words etc. I think you 
 also need to use the rotor and the text selection set to characters, words 
 or lines to select text, you can't just arrow up a few lines, press home 
 to go to the beginning of a line and then hold down control+shift and 
 arrow right to select a bunch of words, then use Control+c or Control+X to 
 copy or move them etc. These are exactly the things people talk about when 
 the topic of efficient word processing comes up. Sighted people have it a 
 bit easier as they can pinch and stuff like that and see as they are doing 
 it what is being selected and so on.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
 Anouk Radix
 Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 9:39 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to 
 ios only
 
 Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows if its possible with the bt keyboard 
 and pages or word for ios to use shift+up or down arrow to select text (i 
 know you can copy and paste with command+v and command+c). 
 And if its possible to move to the beginning and the end of a document 
 with command+up/command+down arrow?
 Thanks in advance for any info,
 Greetings, Anouk,
 
> Op 23 mei 2018, om 16:58 heeft Candy Lowe  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> I am one person who basically uses ios only.  I have a bluetooth keyboard 
> for when I have to do a good bit of typing.  i really think it depends on 
> the individual and what y need to do.  I have a windows computer, but 
> very seldom turn it on.  Again I say, there is no correct answer.  It 
> just depends on what you want to do.  
> My husband is sighted and still uses his computer all of the time.  He 
> likes it better and he prefers the bigger screen.  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 23, 2018, at 3:15 AM, Anouk Radix  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone, My mac is getting rather old and I notice that I use it 
>> less and less. I have been thinking about just sticking with ios and not 
>> getting a laptop at all anymore but that is a big step. I have had 
>> laptops since 1998 but Iuse mine so seldomly that would be a bit of a 
>> waste of money. Still its a big jump, are there people who have done 
>> this already and what are your experiences?
>> Can office on ios be used?
>> Greetings, Anouk,
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Re: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to ios only

[Russ Kiehne]

Perhaps the following will help.  From the ios 11 users guide.

Use these commands (with Quick Nav turned off) to work with text. VoiceOver
reads the text as you move the insertion point.

Go forward or back one character:
Right Arrow or Left Arrow
Go forward or back one word:
Option–Right Arrow or Option–Left Arrow
Go up or down one line:
Up Arrow or Down Arrow
Go to the beginning or end of the line:
Command–Left Arrow or Command–Down Arrow
Go to the beginning or end of the paragraph:
Option–Up Arrow or Option–Down Arrow
Go to the previous or next paragraph:
Option–Up Arrow or Option–Down Arrow
Go to the top or bottom of the text field:
Command–Up Arrow or Command–Down Arrow
Select text as you move:
Shift + any of the insertion point movement commands above
Select all text:
Command–A
Copy, cut, or paste the selected text:
Command–C, Command–X, or Command–V
Undo or redo last change:
Command–Z or Shift–Command–Z


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 9:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching 
to ios only


There are commands for moving to the beginning or the end of a document, but 
you can't select text the way you do in Windows. I am not aS Pprofficient 
with bluetooth keyboard commands since all I use them for is typing long 
text, but as far as I know you still have to change the rotor to words if, 
for example, you want to go back a few words etc. I think you also need to 
use the rotor and the text selection set to characters, words or lines to 
select text, you can't just arrow up a few lines, press home to go to the 
beginning of a line and then hold down control+shift and arrow right to 
select a bunch of words, then use Control+c or Control+X to copy or move 
them etc. These are exactly the things people talk about when the topic of 
efficient word processing comes up. Sighted people have it a bit easier as 
they can pinch and stuff like that and see as they are doing it what is 
being selected and so on.`~~~`


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anouk 
Radix

Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 9:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: shortcuts for keyboard and word/pages on ios was Re: switching to 
ios only


Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows if its possible with the bt keyboard and 
pages or word for ios to use shift+up or down arrow to select text (i know 
you can copy and paste with command+v and command+c).
And if its possible to move to the beginning and the end of a document with 
command+up/command+down arrow?

Thanks in advance for any info,
Greetings, Anouk,

Op 23 mei 2018, om 16:58 heeft Candy Lowe  het 
volgende geschreven:


I am one person who basically uses ios only.  I have a bluetooth keyboard 
for when I have to do a good bit of typing.  i really think it depends on 
the individual and what y need to do.  I have a windows computer, but very 
seldom turn it on.  Again I say, there is no correct answer.  It just 
depends on what you want to do.
My husband is sighted and still uses his computer all of the time.  He 
likes it better and he prefers the bigger screen.


Sent from my iPhone


On May 23, 2018, at 3:15 AM, Anouk Radix  wrote:

Hi everyone, My mac is getting rather old and I notice that I use it less 
and less. I have been thinking about just sticking with ios and not 
getting a laptop at all anymore but that is a big step. I have had 
laptops since 1998 but Iuse mine so seldomly that would be a bit of a 
waste of money. Still its a big jump, are there people who have done this 
already and what are your experiences?

Can office on ios be used?
Greetings, Anouk,

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Re: Amazon Alexa creepily recorded, sent out family's conversations, USA Today

[Chris Chaffin]

Here is an updated article with Amazon's reply to the situation.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/5/24/17391898/amazon-alexa-private-conversation-recording-explanation

Amazon explains how Alexa recorded a private conversation and sent it to 
another user

Alexa got seriously confused

Tom WarrenMay 24, 2018, 5:56pm EDT

Amazon has been forced to explain how Alexa recorded a private conversation and 
sent it to an Echo user’s colleague without their knowledge. A Portland woman 
identified only as Danielle revealed the odd series of events in an interview 
with local TV station Kiro 7, claiming that an Amazon Echo device recorded a 
private conversation between her and her husband and sent the recording to an 
employee of the husband. In a statement to The Verge, an Amazon spokesperson 
confirmed this incident took place, but it appears it was an unusual series of 
Alexa mistaking conversation as commands rather than Alexa spying on users.

“Echo woke up due to a word in background conversation sounding like “Alexa.” 
Then, the subsequent conversation was heard as a “send message” request. At 
which point, Alexa said out loud “To whom?” At which point, the background 
conversation was interpreted as a name in the customers contact list. Alexa 
then asked out loud, “[contact name], right?” Alexa then interpreted background 
conversation as “right”. As unlikely as this string of events is, we are 
evaluating options to make this case even less likely.”

The incident does sound unlikely, but if you’re an Alexa user then you’ve 
probably experienced the assistant trigger by itself during conversations. I’ve 
personally had Alexa start randomly playing songs because it thought it heard 
me ask for some music to be played. It’s a problem Amazon needs to address in 
general, but it’s rare to see a case where successive commands mean a recording 
is sent inadvertently.

Alexa was also caught up in a creepy laughing controversy back in March, after 
the digital assistant mistook common words and phrases to trigger the “Alexa, 
laugh” command. Alexa seemed to start laughing without being prompted to wake, 
and affected users responded by unplugging their Alexa-enabled devices. This 
latest incident will only increase the pressure on Amazon to start more broadly 
implementing its voice recognition feature to avoid these unusual problems.


> On May 25, 2018, at 2:12 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> They say Alexa "recorded audio" and "emailed" it to a random contact. I 
> didn't even know Alexa can record an audio conversation or sent emails.
> What do you say to Alexa so it starts recording what you say and how does 
> Alexa know it should stop recording your voice, i.e. how does it know if you 
> say "Alexa, stop" that is a command and not part of the audio recording?
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
> Taylor
> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 10:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Amazon Alexa creepily recorded, sent out family's conversations, USA 
> Today
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> As so many of us use iOS to configure Alexa, file the following article under 
> the heading, F.Y.I. (smile).
> 
> Mark
> 
> Alexa creepily recorded a family's private conversations, sent them to 
> business associate By Elizabeth Weise, USA TODAY Updated 5 hours ago 
> 
> SAN FRANCISCO - A Portland family's private conversations were recorded by 
> their Amazon Echo smart speaker and emailed to a random phone contact of the 
> father, they told a local TV station. 
> Amazon explained that an unforseen combination of random words in a 
> conversation the family didn't realize was being overheard by Alexa trigged 
> an action no one expected, least of all Amazon, which is now working to make 
> sure it doesn't happen again.
> The Oregon family contacted Amazon to investigate after a private 
> conversation in their home was recorded by their Amazon Echo - the 
> voice-controlled smart speaker - and the recorded audio was sent to the phone 
> of someone in Seattle who was in the father's contact list.
> "My husband and I would joke and say I'd bet these devices are listening to 
> what we're saying," Danielle, who did not want us to use her last name, told 
> KIRO TV in Seattle.
> The family's house has multiple Echo devices that control heating, lights and 
> security system.
> At first they didn't believe it when the colleague called to tell them he'd 
> received recordings of their conversations. But when he told them they'd been 
> talking about hardwood floors, they realized he wasn't joking. 
> "I felt invaded," the woman told the television station. 
> 
> More: The creepiest Amazon Alexa stories ever
> More: Amazon Echo or Google Home? For U.S. households, that's changing
> More: Amazon's Alexa will be built into all new homes from Lennar
> 
> How it happened
> Reached by USA TODAY, Amazon offered an 

Re: Recommendation For Bathroom Smart Scale?

[Peter Logan]

I have the Beets Blue scale.  It works well and the app is totally accessible 
.. well except for the graph that I believe it puts on the screen ...  but all 
the numbers are readable.  It will also tie into the health app.  Here is the 
link from Amazon ...

Beets BLU Digital Bathroom Scale or Weight Scale with Body Composition. Smart 
Scale works with iPhone, Android and iPad 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JE9JKG8?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 25, 2018, at 5:07 AM, Fazil M.  wrote:
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> Hi, list.
> My bathroom scale is dead on me and I am in the market for a smart bathroom 
> scale. Any recommendation for a VoiceOver friendly smart bathroom scale?
> Thanks!
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Recommendation For Bathroom Smart Scale?

[Fazil M.]

Hi, list.

My bathroom scale is dead on me and I am in the market for a smart bathroom
scale. Any recommendation for a VoiceOver friendly smart bathroom scale?

Thanks!

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RE: Something cool Amazon music

[Robert Wright]

I just left Amazon music when I asked it to play an album and later looked that 
album up on google and learned that Amazon only played half of the album.i am 
now with Spotify.


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 8:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Something cool Amazon music

And don't forget that not all of us live in the US or countries where you can 
get this Amazon Music version which might be equivalent to Apple Music. Here in 
Canada we only just last December got to buy the Amazon Echo speakers 
officially, an Audible Canada website only was started last October and we 
still don't have features such as family sharing accounts etc. We can now get 
Amazon Music and videos with an Amazon Prime subscription, but when it comes to 
music that includes about a Million songs which is pretty petty compared to the 
40 million Apple Music has or even Deezer and Spotify. Lastly, if you want a 
family account where two or more people can have their own music, preferences, 
recommendations and so on Apple Music for $14.99 a month for a family 
subscription is a pretty good deal, most other services are $9.99 a month and I 
don't even know if Spotify or Deezer offer a family plan where you can sign in 
as different accounts yet it goes under one subscription.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Angela L 
Griffith
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Something cool Amazon music

Hmm, maybe I'm missing something, but I don't think amazon music works on an 
Apple TV. But if you don't own one of those, then I guess you're good. :)

On 5/24/18, Gordon  wrote:
> So Amazon music pushed an update this morning that's really cool. You 
> can speak to Alexa just like you would on your echo as long as the app 
> is open and the phone is unlocked. So if you want to skip a song 
> that's playing you can say Alexa and whatever command you want to 
> give. I prefer Amazon music over Apple music because it's one 
> subscription that will work on all of my devices.
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RE: Amazon Alexa creepily recorded, sent out family's conversations, USA Today

[Sieghard Weitzel]

They say Alexa "recorded audio" and "emailed" it to a random contact. I didn't 
even know Alexa can record an audio conversation or sent emails.
What do you say to Alexa so it starts recording what you say and how does Alexa 
know it should stop recording your voice, i.e. how does it know if you say 
"Alexa, stop" that is a command and not part of the audio recording?

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 10:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Amazon Alexa creepily recorded, sent out family's conversations, USA 
Today

Hello Everyone,

As so many of us use iOS to configure Alexa, file the following article under 
the heading, F.Y.I. (smile).

Mark

Alexa creepily recorded a family's private conversations, sent them to business 
associate By Elizabeth Weise, USA TODAY Updated 5 hours ago 

SAN FRANCISCO - A Portland family's private conversations were recorded by 
their Amazon Echo smart speaker and emailed to a random phone contact of the 
father, they told a local TV station. 
Amazon explained that an unforseen combination of random words in a 
conversation the family didn't realize was being overheard by Alexa trigged an 
action no one expected, least of all Amazon, which is now working to make sure 
it doesn't happen again.
The Oregon family contacted Amazon to investigate after a private conversation 
in their home was recorded by their Amazon Echo - the voice-controlled smart 
speaker - and the recorded audio was sent to the phone of someone in Seattle 
who was in the father's contact list.
"My husband and I would joke and say I'd bet these devices are listening to 
what we're saying," Danielle, who did not want us to use her last name, told 
KIRO TV in Seattle.
The family's house has multiple Echo devices that control heating, lights and 
security system.
At first they didn't believe it when the colleague called to tell them he'd 
received recordings of their conversations. But when he told them they'd been 
talking about hardwood floors, they realized he wasn't joking. 
"I felt invaded," the woman told the television station. 

More: The creepiest Amazon Alexa stories ever
More: Amazon Echo or Google Home? For U.S. households, that's changing
More: Amazon's Alexa will be built into all new homes from Lennar

How it happened
Reached by USA TODAY, Amazon offered an explanation of how the highly unlikely 
and yet not impossible series of events played out.
First, Amazon said, the Echo woke up when someone in the home said something 
that sounded to it like "Alexa."
Next, the subsequent conversation included something that, to Alexa, sounded 
like a "send a message" request.
At which point, Alexa said out loud, "To whom?" 
Next, Alexa interpreted the background conversation as a name in the customers' 
contact list. 
Alexa then asked, again out loud, "[Contact name], right?" 
Alexa then interpreted background conversation as confirming with, "Right."
While such an improbable string of events doesn't happen every day, with 
millions of smart speakers in American homes hearing tens of millions of 
conversations, it's with the realm of probablity.
In this instance, a random series of disconnected conversations got interpreted 
by Alexa as a specific and connected series of commands.
It doesn't appear that the family members actually heard Alexa asking who it 
should send a message to, or confirming that it should be sent.
That's probably a function of how good the Echo's far field voice recognition 
is. Each speaker has seven microphones which are arrayed so the cylindrical 
speaker can pick up voice commands from far away or even in noisy rooms with 
lots of conversations going on.
Amazon says it is evaluating options to make cases such as happened to the 
Portland family less likely.
But given that Forrester predicts by 2020 almost 50% of American households 
will contain a smart speaker, expect more such confusions in the future.
Originally Published 4:00 p.m. PDT May 24, 2018 Updated 5 hours ago

Original Article at:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/talkingtech/2018/05/24/amazon-alexa-cree
pily-recorded-sent-out-familys-conversations/642852002/


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Re: Amazon Alexa creepily recorded, sent out family's conversations, USA Today

[Jewel]

It adds a whole extra meaning to the warning phrase:  "Walls have ears!"

 Jewel

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Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 5:21 PM
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Subject: Amazon Alexa creepily recorded, sent out family's conversations, USA 
Today

Hello Everyone,

As so many of us use iOS to configure Alexa, file the following article
under the heading, F.Y.I. (smile).

Mark

Alexa creepily recorded a family's private conversations, sent them to
business associate
By Elizabeth Weise, USA TODAY Updated 5 hours ago

SAN FRANCISCO - A Portland family's private conversations were recorded by
their Amazon Echo smart speaker and emailed to a random phone contact of the
father, they told a local TV station.
Amazon explained that an unforseen combination of random words in a
conversation the family didn't realize was being overheard by Alexa trigged
an action no one expected, least of all Amazon, which is now working to make
sure it doesn't happen again.
The Oregon family contacted Amazon to investigate after a private
conversation in their home was recorded by their Amazon Echo - the
voice-controlled smart speaker - and the recorded audio was sent to the
phone of someone in Seattle who was in the father's contact list.
"My husband and I would joke and say I'd bet these devices are listening to
what we're saying," Danielle, who did not want us to use her last name, told
KIRO TV in Seattle.
The family's house has multiple Echo devices that control heating, lights
and security system.
At first they didn't believe it when the colleague called to tell them he'd
received recordings of their conversations. But when he told them they'd
been talking about hardwood floors, they realized he wasn't joking.
"I felt invaded," the woman told the television station.

More: The creepiest Amazon Alexa stories ever
More: Amazon Echo or Google Home? For U.S. households, that's changing
More: Amazon's Alexa will be built into all new homes from Lennar

How it happened
Reached by USA TODAY, Amazon offered an explanation of how the highly
unlikely and yet not impossible series of events played out.
First, Amazon said, the Echo woke up when someone in the home said something
that sounded to it like "Alexa."
Next, the subsequent conversation included something that, to Alexa, sounded
like a "send a message" request.
At which point, Alexa said out loud, "To whom?"
Next, Alexa interpreted the background conversation as a name in the
customers' contact list.
Alexa then asked, again out loud, "[Contact name], right?"
Alexa then interpreted background conversation as confirming with, "Right."
While such an improbable string of events doesn't happen every day, with
millions of smart speakers in American homes hearing tens of millions of
conversations, it's with the realm of probablity.
In this instance, a random series of disconnected conversations got
interpreted by Alexa as a specific and connected series of commands.
It doesn't appear that the family members actually heard Alexa asking who it
should send a message to, or confirming that it should be sent.
That's probably a function of how good the Echo's far field voice
recognition is. Each speaker has seven microphones which are arrayed so the
cylindrical speaker can pick up voice commands from far away or even in
noisy rooms with lots of conversations going on.
Amazon says it is evaluating options to make cases such as happened to the
Portland family less likely.
But given that Forrester predicts by 2020 almost 50% of American households
will contain a smart speaker, expect more such confusions in the future.
Originally Published 4:00 p.m. PDT May 24, 2018
Updated 5 hours ago

Original Article at:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/talkingtech/2018/05/24/amazon-alexa-cree
pily-recorded-sent-out-familys-conversations/642852002/


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