Re: Transcription Beta Question Please.

[Brent Harding]

Yeah, voicemail transcription could probably be a lot better than it's 
presented in iOS. All those underscores are annoying. I think they represent 
the pauses in speech or parts it didn't pick up, but let's hope this gets 
better over time.


- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 

To: ; "Sieghard Weitzel" 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: Transcription Beta Question Please.


Instead of flicking, you can just slide your finger down the screen past
the transcript message or just learn approximately on the screen where
it's located and then just touch the screen below that point.


On 12/19/18 9:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Maybe you should move up here then, there are neither bees nor flowers, 
not for the last 2 and a half month and not for another 4 and a half to 
come!



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Carolyn Arnold

Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 8:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Transcription Beta Question Please.

I just flick past the thing. It's not going away, like the bees around the 
flowers outside our apartment.


Best regards,

Carolyn


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of janet gross

Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 7:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Transcription Beta Question Please.

Hi Carolyn,
Ok, so you have it on your phone too.  Can you please tell me how you work 
around the thing, as it drives me crazy.  I haven't found any way to work 
around this thing though!


Janet


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Carolyn Arnold

Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 8:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Transcription Beta Question Please.

I think it is from iOS. I just work around the thing.

Best regards,

Carolyn


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 8:08 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: Transcription Beta Question Please.

Hi Everyone,
Can someone please tell me how to get rid of this annoying transcription 
beta feature that shows up every time I attempt to listen to a voice mail 
message? This is the most annoying thing, and to boot, it doesn't even 
read half the message!  I have no idea how this even got on my phone 
either.  Although, from my understanding this is from iOS, but not for 
sure.

Thank you for any suggestions.
Janet




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RE: New iPhone arrives tomorrow. What's the easiest way to set it up?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Keith,

When we got our iPhone 8 we took the SIM cards out of our old phones and put 
them in the 8 before we even powered it on. Our old phones were of course on 
WiFi so everything worked just fine.
I would unbox the new phone, turn off your 7, remove the SIM and put it in the 
new phone, then power on the 7 first and enter your PIN so it's ready to go. 
Then turn on the new phone, wait a bit (30 seconds should be plenty) and press 
the side button 3 times to start Voiceover.
Most phones come charged, ours had between 70 and 80%, but one way to make sure 
the phone has enough charge and to power it on is to simply plug in the new 
phone after you inserted the SIM, that will power it on and then 30 seconds or 
so after you plug it in a triple press of the side button should get the thing 
babbling and everything else is explained from there.
One thing, if you do the setup by putting your old phone close to the new one, 
remember that I think if you are trying to scan the barcode it is the old phone 
you do the scanning with, e.g. you hold the old phone's camera over the screen 
of the new phone. I would sort of line it up by holding it very close, then 
raise the phone straight up about 6 inches and it should scan, maybe 8 but you 
certainly don't have to hold it a foot away..
Maybe somebody can confirm this, but I'm almost certain it's the old phone you 
use to scan the new phone, from a logical perspective one could easily think 
you scan the old phone with the new one.

Good luck,
Sieghard

From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 10:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: New iPhone arrives tomorrow. What's the easiest way to set it up?

Hi,

My new iPhone X arrives tomorrow.

What’s the easiest way to set it up from my iPhone 7. I’m confused about this 
approach of hlding a new phone close to an existing phone. At what stage do I 
transfer the sim to the new phone – before or after I do the close holding 
thing?

A step by step guide would be most welcome. I think I’ll try setting up from an 
iCloud backup of my iPhone 7, and if that doesn’t work well I’ll reset the 
phone and then do it from an encrypted iTunes backup.

Thanks in advance. Keith
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Re: Transcription Beta Question Please.

[Christopher Chaltain]

Instead of flicking, you can just slide your finger down the screen past 
the transcript message or just learn approximately on the screen where 
it's located and then just touch the screen below that point.



On 12/19/18 9:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Maybe you should move up here then, there are neither bees nor flowers, not for 
the last 2 and a half month and not for another 4 and a half to come!


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 8:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Transcription Beta Question Please.

I just flick past the thing. It's not going away, like the bees around the 
flowers outside our apartment.

Best regards,

Carolyn


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 7:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Transcription Beta Question Please.

Hi Carolyn,
Ok, so you have it on your phone too.  Can you please tell me how you work 
around the thing, as it drives me crazy.  I haven't found any way to work 
around this thing though!

Janet


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 8:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Transcription Beta Question Please.

I think it is from iOS. I just work around the thing.

Best regards,

Carolyn


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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 8:08 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: Transcription Beta Question Please.

Hi Everyone,
Can someone please tell me how to get rid of this annoying transcription beta 
feature that shows up every time I attempt to listen to a voice mail message? 
This is the most annoying thing, and to boot, it doesn't even read half the 
message!  I have no idea how this even got on my phone either.  Although, from 
my understanding this is from iOS, but not for sure.
Thank you for any suggestions.
Janet




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RE: Transcription Beta Question Please.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Maybe you should move up here then, there are neither bees nor flowers, not for 
the last 2 and a half month and not for another 4 and a half to come! 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 8:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Transcription Beta Question Please.

I just flick past the thing. It's not going away, like the bees around the 
flowers outside our apartment. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 7:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Transcription Beta Question Please.

Hi Carolyn, 
Ok, so you have it on your phone too.  Can you please tell me how you work 
around the thing, as it drives me crazy.  I haven't found any way to work 
around this thing though!

Janet 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 8:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Transcription Beta Question Please.

I think it is from iOS. I just work around the thing. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 8:08 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: Transcription Beta Question Please.

Hi Everyone,
Can someone please tell me how to get rid of this annoying transcription beta 
feature that shows up every time I attempt to listen to a voice mail message? 
This is the most annoying thing, and to boot, it doesn't even read half the 
message!  I have no idea how this even got on my phone either.  Although, from 
my understanding this is from iOS, but not for sure.
Thank you for any suggestions.
Janet




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Re: Text editing with iPhone

[Richard Turner]

First, go into the rotor settings and make sure that text selection is selected.
If you want to first select a letter, a word, a line, a page, or all, turn the 
rotor to words or lines, and flick up with one finger to go back knowing that 
the cursor will be at the beginning of whatever you hear.
Then, turn to text selection, and flick up or down to the amount you want to 
select by, and flick right to select.
Then, turn to edit, and flick up or down to the action, cut, copy, etc.
The iOS 12 manual can be downloaded in Books.
HTH,




"It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books 
which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

On Dec 19, 2018, at 5:15 PM, Bill Outman 
mailto:wout...@earthlink.net>> wrote:

I know this sounds silly for having an iPhone for almost five years now, but I 
seem to have forgotten a lot about editing text with it.

I was working with an old item in Notes that I wanted to update, and had a lot 
of trouble, having only occasional and accidental success.

I can’t seem to determine consistently my insertion point, and only seem to be 
able to delete charactersand select one word at a time, sometimes accidentally. 
 I can get the word cut and seem to be able to unselect it.  The text editing 
and edit menu seemed to be buried together in the rotor; they used to be two 
separate items.  I seem to be having trouble remembering all the gestures I 
need to do all the cut copy, paste, and select commands.

By the way, where is the iOS user guide?  I’m using iOS 12.  Is it somewhere 
already on the phone or do I need to down load it into Books?

Bill Outman


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Re: face id opinions wanted

[Christopher Chaltain]

There are gloves you can use with modern touch screens. The finger tips 
allow for electric conduction through the material. I don't have a pair 
myself, but others living farther north have talked about them on list. 
I'm sure you can search for them on the web.



On 12/19/18 2:13 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:

Juan, I play piano in ours and tuck mine up under my arms a lot. The keys are 
cold too, and I have tried playing with gloves on, can do it, but not easy. I 
can't use my iPhone with gloves though, or haven't tried, don't think that 
could work.

Best regards,

Carolyn


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Juan Mojena
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 2:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted

I certainly don’t give a rats  ass about what people think  of my hand being in 
my pocket.

  I play violin in church in my community .  That church is very cold and I 
frequently put my hand in my pocket to keep it warm.  People come up to me 
after mass to complement me on my playing and no one has ever menti oned my 
hand being in my pocket  during the service.

Juan


On Dec 18, 2018, at 12:15 PM, Michael Doise mailto:mikedo...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Good morning everyone, I felt that I need to put my two cent in on this 
topic.



I understand that Touch ID allows for ease of use of your iPhone, and 
we should not have to feel that we are doing something wrong by using a phone 
in our pockets, but lets look at it from the perspective of someone sighted. As 
a low vision person, I would be very disturbed if I could see someone’s pocket 
bulging and moving. That would be disturbing and I might not talk to that 
person because I would not know what they were up to, so please consider this 
when you say you do not want people to judge you for using your phone in your 
pocket. I do think though that it would be cool if there was on screen 
fingerprinting for users who would like to use a Braille display or some other 
device, One workaround though is to use the Braille keyboard or a Bluetooth 
keyboard to enter a passcode, so it is not to bad.



Also, as a low vision user, I have to use attention mode off on Face ID 
but otherwise, I think it is very easy to use. I also think that Face ID is 
very secure, and I would recommend that people use it over just a passcode or 
no security at all.



I think that we will see new security technologies in the future, but 
until then, I think we have a great solution for now.



Sent from Mail   for 
Windows 10





From: viphone@googlegroups.com   mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> >
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 9:57:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: face id opinions wanted


Simon, you do knowhat the iPhone 8 has Touch Id? Nobody forced you to 
snap up an iPhone X last year when Face Id was brand new and just as with first 
generation Touch Id was probably not as reliable and good as second generation 
Touch Id was or this year's Face Id.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of goshawk on 
horseback
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 12:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
Importance: High

who gives a toss about looks and all of this normality trash! I 
certainly
don't!
given the choice, I would much rather be able to use touch id whilst the
phone is in a bumbag whilst I am out riding, rather than having to take 
it
out for this stupid face id, and increase the risk of dropping it if the
horse spooks or something any day, and stuff how it looks.

Simon


- Original Message -
From: "Aleeha Dudley" mailto:blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com> >
To: "viPhone" mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted


Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or 
pocket,
you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, 
FaceID is
much more secure than TouchID ever was.
Aleeha

> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback
> mailto:goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk> > wrote:
>
> same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch 
id
> and
> replacing 

Text editing with iPhone

[Bill Outman]

I know this sounds silly for having an iPhone for almost five years now, but
I seem to have forgotten a lot about editing text with it.  

 

I was working with an old item in Notes that I wanted to update, and had a
lot of trouble, having only occasional and accidental success.  

 

I can't seem to determine consistently my insertion point, and only seem to
be able to delete charactersand select one word at a time, sometimes
accidentally.  I can get the word cut and seem to be able to unselect it.
The text editing and edit menu seemed to be buried together in the rotor;
they used to be two separate items.  I seem to be having trouble remembering
all the gestures I need to do all the cut copy, paste, and select commands.


 

By the way, where is the iOS user guide?  I'm using iOS 12.  Is it somewhere
already on the phone or do I need to down load it into Books?  

 

Bill Outman 

 

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Re: foldable bluetooth keyboard?

[Devin Prater]

Thanks, I’ll check this one out.

> On Dec 19, 2018, at 5:39 AM, Greg Wocher  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> There is the iClever tribute-fold one on amazon. It costs around $30 and 
> works well with iOS.
> 
> Greg Wocher
> 
> 
>> On Dec 18, 2018, at 6:53 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
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>> Hi all. Does anyone have, or know of, a folding Bluetooth keyboard that 
>> works with iOS that is under $45?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Outlook for IOS?

['Nancy Badger' via VIPhone]

Hi Shermeen,
My work uses exchange as well. However I have stuck with the native iOS mail 
app. I have figured out how to make folders in iCloud, and move my messages 
from exchange to iCloud. This way the messages are kept on my personal iCloud, 
and for me that feels better. Let me know if you want me to help you more with 
this. Hope you are doing well.
Nancy

Nancy Badger, Ph.D
Executive Director of Counseling
Old Dominion University
Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.

> On Dec 6, 2018, at 11:39 AM, Shermeen Khan  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> Forgive me if this has been discussed to death, but I'm just wondering
> as to the accessibility of the outlook for IOS app. I am getting a
> significantly larger volume of work e-mail, and I'm also looking for
> the ability to create several folders, so that when I scroll through
> my mail, I can just swipe up or down to send it to a given folder to
> look at later. is this possible?
> 
> Thanks in advance for any feedback,
> 
> Shermeen
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RE: face id opinions wanted

[janet gross]

Hi Juan, 
Having face id and finger print reader options, well, that's now cool!  LOL!  
That's what I call choice!  Just out of curiosity, how did your wife set up the 
finger print reader option? I would like that myself.   
Janet 



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Juan Mojena
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 1:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted

My wife who is sighted and does not like apple wanted an android so I ordered a 
Oneplus t 6 phone.  It has both Face ID and a finger print reader that is built 
into the screen.  She can just place her finger on the screen and unlock the 
phone.There is   no   physical button where  onecan put a  finger it is 
just on the bottom of the screen and one just places a finger until  the phone 
unlocks.

Juan 
   

> On Dec 18, 2018, at 2:58 PM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> Hi All, 
> Yes, I've also heard that Apple might introduce the touch id as well as the 
> face id, so people will have a choice.  As choice is always welcome.  
> Janet 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Devin Prater
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 1:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
> Importance: High
> 
> I’ve heard, recently, that at some point Apple will have a phone with 
> in-screen touch-ID, and FaceID at the same time. Of course, this is years 
> away, but your iPhone 8 can last years too.
> 
>> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id and 
>> replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot!
>> another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is in 
>> something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this is 
>> particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for example, as 
>> it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now you can't do that 
>> with this pesky face id rubbish!
>> 
>> Simon
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Jed Barton" 
>> To: "viphone" 
>> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM
>> Subject: face id opinions wanted
>> 
>> 
>> Hey guys,
>> 
>> OK, i need some input here on face ID.  I'm gonna be brutally honest,
>> i personally hate it.  I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on
>> technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not
>> as well as expected.  I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i
>> am with it, and i just do the home swipe.  It literally took me 17
>> minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the
>> towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face.  it would
>> tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess
>> that's too much.  Has anyone else had a similar experience?
>> I have 1 appearance setup on my phone.  What i find, out of 20 times
>> i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time.  Another
>> thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my
>> phone to do something.  It never has worked yet when i'm laying down.
>> In my eyes, this is not acceptable.  I like to be productive with my
>> phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing
>> open. The fingerprint was way more reliable.  Has anyone else
>> experienced this, am i alone?  Help me out here guys.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Jed
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Re: iCloud backup. Will my VDR library be restored from here?

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Keith,

Open Settings in Voice Dream Reader, and go to Cloud Sync. Make sure "Sync 
library using iCloud" is on. If it is, your books will be backed up to iCloud 
and restored if you restore your iPhone.

Best,
Anna




> On Dec 18, 2018, at 2:41 PM, 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
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> Hi,
>  
> I have VDR enabled as an app in iCloud storage. Does this mean when I 
> restored from this iCloud backup after resetting my phone, that my VDR 
> library will be restored?
>  
> I would very much like to avoid having to use iTunes and File Transfer for 
> this purpose.
>  
> Thanks in advance. Keith
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RE: face id opinions wanted

[Carolyn Arnold]

Juan, I play piano in ours and tuck mine up under my arms a lot. The keys are 
cold too, and I have tried playing with gloves on, can do it, but not easy. I 
can't use my iPhone with gloves though, or haven't tried, don't think that 
could work. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Juan Mojena
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 2:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted

I certainly don’t give a rats  ass about what people think  of my hand being in 
my pocket.

 I play violin in church in my community .  That church is very cold and I 
frequently put my hand in my pocket to keep it warm.  People come up to me 
after mass to complement me on my playing and no one has ever menti oned my 
hand being in my pocket  during the service. 

Juan 


On Dec 18, 2018, at 12:15 PM, Michael Doise mailto:mikedo...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Good morning everyone, I felt that I need to put my two cent in on this 
topic.

 

I understand that Touch ID allows for ease of use of your iPhone, and 
we should not have to feel that we are doing something wrong by using a phone 
in our pockets, but lets look at it from the perspective of someone sighted. As 
a low vision person, I would be very disturbed if I could see someone’s pocket 
bulging and moving. That would be disturbing and I might not talk to that 
person because I would not know what they were up to, so please consider this 
when you say you do not want people to judge you for using your phone in your 
pocket. I do think though that it would be cool if there was on screen 
fingerprinting for users who would like to use a Braille display or some other 
device, One workaround though is to use the Braille keyboard or a Bluetooth 
keyboard to enter a passcode, so it is not to bad.

 

Also, as a low vision user, I have to use attention mode off on Face ID 
but otherwise, I think it is very easy to use. I also think that Face ID is 
very secure, and I would recommend that people use it over just a passcode or 
no security at all.

 

I think that we will see new security technologies in the future, but 
until then, I think we have a great solution for now.

 

Sent from Mail   for 
Windows 10

 



From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of 
Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> >
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 9:57:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: face id opinions wanted
 

Simon, you do knowhat the iPhone 8 has Touch Id? Nobody forced you to 
snap up an iPhone X last year when Face Id was brand new and just as with first 
generation Touch Id was probably not as reliable and good as second generation 
Touch Id was or this year's Face Id.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
goshawk on horseback
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 12:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
Importance: High

who gives a toss about looks and all of this normality trash! I 
certainly 
don't!
given the choice, I would much rather be able to use touch id whilst 
the 
phone is in a bumbag whilst I am out riding, rather than having to take 
it 
out for this stupid face id, and increase the risk of dropping it if 
the 
horse spooks or something any day, and stuff how it looks.

Simon


- Original Message - 
From: "Aleeha Dudley" mailto:blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com> >
To: "viPhone" mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted


Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or 
pocket, 
you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, 
FaceID is 
much more secure than TouchID ever was.
Aleeha

> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback 
> mailto:goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk> > wrote:
>
> same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch 
id 
> and
> replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot!
> another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone 
is in
> something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. 
this is
> particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for 

RE: New iPhone arrives tomorrow. What's the easiest way to set it up?

[Carolyn Arnold]

Can you call Customer Support of your carrier. Consumer Cellular would work 
with you and steer you right through the entire set up. If there is something 
about Voice Over they don't know, or at least one guy, he'll look on Apple's 
site and make that work out. 

He's the one that suggested I turn off Raise to Wake to get better life, just a 
guy in Customer Service at Consumer Cellular, when I'd had my phone a couple of 
days. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 1:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: New iPhone arrives tomorrow. What's the easiest way to set it up?

Hi,

 

My new iPhone X arrives tomorrow.

 

What’s the easiest way to set it up from my iPhone 7. I’m confused about this 
approach of hlding a new phone close to an existing phone. At what stage do I 
transfer the sim to the new phone – before or after I do the close holding 
thing?

 

A step by step guide would be most welcome. I think I’ll try setting up from an 
iCloud backup of my iPhone 7, and if that doesn’t work well I’ll reset the 
phone and then do it from an encrypted iTunes backup.

 

Thanks in advance. Keith

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Re: New iPhone arrives tomorrow. What's the easiest way to set it up?

[Marie N.]

The phone will tell you when to hold the old phone close and make sure you hold 
it just above the new one with the back facing camera toward the new one. 
Personally I think it better to wait to exchange the simm.
Marie


From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 10:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: New iPhone arrives tomorrow. What's the easiest way to set it up?

Hi,

 

My new iPhone X arrives tomorrow.

 

What’s the easiest way to set it up from my iPhone 7. I’m confused about this 
approach of hlding a new phone close to an existing phone. At what stage do I 
transfer the sim to the new phone – before or after I do the close holding 
thing?

 

A step by step guide would be most welcome. I think I’ll try setting up from an 
iCloud backup of my iPhone 7, and if that doesn’t work well I’ll reset the 
phone and then do it from an encrypted iTunes backup.

 

Thanks in advance. Keith

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Re: face id opinions wanted

[Juan Mojena]

My wife who is sighted and does not like apple wanted an android so I ordered a 
Oneplus t 6 phone.  It has both Face ID and a finger print reader that is built 
into the screen.  She can just place her finger on the screen and unlock the 
phone.There is   no   physical button where  onecan put a  finger it is 
just on the bottom of the screen and one just places a finger until  the phone 
unlocks.

Juan 
   

> On Dec 18, 2018, at 2:58 PM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> Hi All, 
> Yes, I've also heard that Apple might introduce the touch id as well as the 
> face id, so people will have a choice.  As choice is always welcome.  
> Janet 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Devin Prater
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 1:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
> Importance: High
> 
> I’ve heard, recently, that at some point Apple will have a phone with 
> in-screen touch-ID, and FaceID at the same time. Of course, this is years 
> away, but your iPhone 8 can last years too.
> 
>> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id and 
>> replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot!
>> another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is in 
>> something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this is 
>> particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for example, as 
>> it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now you can't do that 
>> with this pesky face id rubbish!
>> 
>> Simon
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Jed Barton" 
>> To: "viphone" 
>> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM
>> Subject: face id opinions wanted
>> 
>> 
>> Hey guys,
>> 
>> OK, i need some input here on face ID.  I'm gonna be brutally honest,
>> i personally hate it.  I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on
>> technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not
>> as well as expected.  I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i
>> am with it, and i just do the home swipe.  It literally took me 17
>> minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the
>> towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face.  it would
>> tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess
>> that's too much.  Has anyone else had a similar experience?
>> I have 1 appearance setup on my phone.  What i find, out of 20 times
>> i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time.  Another
>> thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my
>> phone to do something.  It never has worked yet when i'm laying down.
>> In my eyes, this is not acceptable.  I like to be productive with my
>> phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing
>> open. The fingerprint was way more reliable.  Has anyone else
>> experienced this, am i alone?  Help me out here guys.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Jed
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Re: face id opinions wanted

[Juan Mojena]

I certainly don’t give a rats  ass about what people think  of my hand being in 
my pocket.
 I play violin in church in my community
.  That church is very cold and I frequently put my hand in my pocket to keep 
it warm.  People come up to me after mass to complement me on my playing and no 
one has ever menti oned my hand being in my pocket  during the service. 

Juan 

> On Dec 18, 2018, at 12:15 PM, Michael Doise  wrote:
> 
> Good morning everyone, I felt that I need to put my two cent in on this topic.
>  
> I understand that Touch ID allows for ease of use of your iPhone, and we 
> should not have to feel that we are doing something wrong by using a phone in 
> our pockets, but lets look at it from the perspective of someone sighted. As 
> a low vision person, I would be very disturbed if I could see someone’s 
> pocket bulging and moving. That would be disturbing and I might not talk to 
> that person because I would not know what they were up to, so please consider 
> this when you say you do not want people to judge you for using your phone in 
> your pocket. I do think though that it would be cool if there was on screen 
> fingerprinting for users who would like to use a Braille display or some 
> other device, One workaround though is to use the Braille keyboard or a 
> Bluetooth keyboard to enter a passcode, so it is not to bad.
>  
> Also, as a low vision user, I have to use attention mode off on Face ID but 
> otherwise, I think it is very easy to use. I also think that Face ID is very 
> secure, and I would recommend that people use it over just a passcode or no 
> security at all.
>  
> I think that we will see new security technologies in the future, but until 
> then, I think we have a great solution for now.
>  
> Sent from Mail  for Windows 10
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
> Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 9:57:54 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: face id opinions wanted
>  
> Simon, you do knowhat the iPhone 8 has Touch Id? Nobody forced you to snap up 
> an iPhone X last year when Face Id was brand new and just as with first 
> generation Touch Id was probably not as reliable and good as second 
> generation Touch Id was or this year's Face Id.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> goshawk on horseback
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 12:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
> Importance: High
> 
> who gives a toss about looks and all of this normality trash! I certainly 
> don't!
> given the choice, I would much rather be able to use touch id whilst the 
> phone is in a bumbag whilst I am out riding, rather than having to take it 
> out for this stupid face id, and increase the risk of dropping it if the 
> horse spooks or something any day, and stuff how it looks.
> 
> Simon
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Aleeha Dudley"  >
> To: "viPhone" mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:53 PM
> Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
> 
> 
> Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, 
> you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID is 
> much more secure than TouchID ever was.
> Aleeha
> 
> > On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback 
> >  > > wrote:
> >
> > same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id 
> > and
> > replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot!
> > another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is in
> > something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this is
> > particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for example, as
> > it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now you can't do 
> > that
> > with this pesky face id rubbish!
> >
> > Simon
> >
> >
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Jed Barton" mailto:j...@jedbarton.com>>
> > To: "viphone" mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
> > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM
> > Subject: face id opinions wanted
> >
> >
> > Hey guys,
> >
> > OK, i need some input here on face ID.  I'm gonna be brutally honest,
> > i personally hate it.  I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on
> > technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not
> > as well as expected.  I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i
> > am with it, and i just do the home swipe.  It literally took me 17
> > minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the
> > towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my 

New iPhone arrives tomorrow. What's the easiest way to set it up?

['Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone]

Hi,

My new iPhone X arrives tomorrow.

What's the easiest way to set it up from my iPhone 7. I'm confused about this 
approach of hlding a new phone close to an existing phone. At what stage do I 
transfer the sim to the new phone - before or after I do the close holding 
thing?

A step by step guide would be most welcome. I think I'll try setting up from an 
iCloud backup of my iPhone 7, and if that doesn't work well I'll reset the 
phone and then do it from an encrypted iTunes backup.

Thanks in advance. Keith

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RE: Transcription Beta Question Please.

[Carolyn Arnold]

I just flick past the thing. It's not going away, like the bees around the 
flowers outside our apartment. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 7:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Transcription Beta Question Please.

Hi Carolyn, 
Ok, so you have it on your phone too.  Can you please tell me how you work 
around the thing, as it drives me crazy.  I haven't found any way to work 
around this thing though!

Janet 


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Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 8:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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I think it is from iOS. I just work around the thing. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of janet gross
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To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: Transcription Beta Question Please.

Hi Everyone,
Can someone please tell me how to get rid of this annoying transcription beta 
feature that shows up every time I attempt to listen to a voice mail message? 
This is the most annoying thing, and to boot, it doesn't even read half the 
message!  I have no idea how this even got on my phone either.  Although, from 
my understanding this is from iOS, but not for sure.
Thank you for any suggestions.
Janet




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RE: Transcription Beta Question Please.

[Richard Turner]

Janet,
It is on all iPhones running iOS 12, if not 11; I don't recall when it was 
introduced.
The only work around is to flick beyond it.  It is annoying, pretty much 
worthless, and just a bad idea from Apple.  If everyone writes Apple and 
complains, maybe it will go away or at least give an option to disable it.

Richard



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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 4:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Transcription Beta Question Please.

Hi Carolyn, 
Ok, so you have it on your phone too.  Can you please tell me how you work 
around the thing, as it drives me crazy.  I haven't found any way to work 
around this thing though!

Janet 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 8:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Transcription Beta Question Please.

I think it is from iOS. I just work around the thing. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 8:08 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: Transcription Beta Question Please.

Hi Everyone,
Can someone please tell me how to get rid of this annoying transcription beta 
feature that shows up every time I attempt to listen to a voice mail message? 
This is the most annoying thing, and to boot, it doesn't even read half the 
message!  I have no idea how this even got on my phone either.  Although, from 
my understanding this is from iOS, but not for sure.
Thank you for any suggestions.
Janet




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RE: Transcription Beta Question Please.

[janet gross]

Hi Carolyn, 
Ok, so you have it on your phone too.  Can you please tell me how you work 
around the thing, as it drives me crazy.  I haven't found any way to work 
around this thing though!

Janet 


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I think it is from iOS. I just work around the thing. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Hi Everyone,
Can someone please tell me how to get rid of this annoying
transcription beta feature that shows up every time I
attempt to listen to a voice mail message? This is the most
annoying thing, and to boot, it doesn't even read half the
message!  I have no idea how this even got on my phone
either.  Although, from my understanding this is from iOS,
but not for sure.
Thank you for any suggestions.
Janet




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Re: foldable bluetooth keyboard?

[Greg Wocher]

Hello,
There is the iClever tribute-fold one on amazon. It costs around $30 and works 
well with iOS.

Greg Wocher


> On Dec 18, 2018, at 6:53 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
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> Hi all. Does anyone have, or know of, a folding Bluetooth keyboard that works 
> with iOS that is under $45?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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