Juan, I play piano in ours and tuck mine up under my arms a lot. The keys are 
cold too, and I have tried playing with gloves on, can do it, but not easy. I 
can't use my iPhone with gloves though, or haven't tried, don't think that 
could work. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Juan Mojena
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 2:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted

I certainly don’t give a rats  ass about what people think  of my hand being in 
my pocket.

 I play violin in church in my community .  That church is very cold and I 
frequently put my hand in my pocket to keep it warm.  People come up to me 
after mass to complement me on my playing and no one has ever menti oned my 
hand being in my pocket  during the service. 

Juan 


        On Dec 18, 2018, at 12:15 PM, Michael Doise <mikedo...@gmail.com 
<mailto:mikedo...@gmail.com> > wrote:

        Good morning everyone, I felt that I need to put my two cent in on this 
topic.

         

        I understand that Touch ID allows for ease of use of your iPhone, and 
we should not have to feel that we are doing something wrong by using a phone 
in our pockets, but lets look at it from the perspective of someone sighted. As 
a low vision person, I would be very disturbed if I could see someone’s pocket 
bulging and moving. That would be disturbing and I might not talk to that 
person because I would not know what they were up to, so please consider this 
when you say you do not want people to judge you for using your phone in your 
pocket. I do think though that it would be cool if there was on screen 
fingerprinting for users who would like to use a Braille display or some other 
device, One workaround though is to use the Braille keyboard or a Bluetooth 
keyboard to enter a passcode, so it is not to bad.

         

        Also, as a low vision user, I have to use attention mode off on Face ID 
but otherwise, I think it is very easy to use. I also think that Face ID is 
very secure, and I would recommend that people use it over just a passcode or 
no security at all.

         

        I think that we will see new security technologies in the future, but 
until then, I think we have a great solution for now.

         

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Windows 10

         

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        From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
<viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of 
Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca <mailto:siegh...@live.ca> >
        Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 9:57:54 AM
        To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
        Subject: RE: face id opinions wanted
         
        
        Simon, you do knowhat the iPhone 8 has Touch Id? Nobody forced you to 
snap up an iPhone X last year when Face Id was brand new and just as with first 
generation Touch Id was probably not as reliable and good as second generation 
Touch Id was or this year's Face Id.
        
        -----Original Message-----
        From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
<viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
goshawk on horseback
        Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 12:06 PM
        To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
        Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
        Importance: High
        
        who gives a toss about looks and all of this normality trash! I 
certainly 
        don't!
        given the choice, I would much rather be able to use touch id whilst 
the 
        phone is in a bumbag whilst I am out riding, rather than having to take 
it 
        out for this stupid face id, and increase the risk of dropping it if 
the 
        horse spooks or something any day, and stuff how it looks.
        
        Simon
        
        
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: "Aleeha Dudley" <blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com 
<mailto:blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com> >
        To: "viPhone" <viphone@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
        Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:53 PM
        Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
        
        
        Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or 
pocket, 
        you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, 
FaceID is 
        much more secure than TouchID ever was.
        Aleeha
        
        > On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback 
        > <goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk 
<mailto:goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk> > wrote:
        >
        > same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch 
id 
        > and
        > replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot!
        > another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone 
is in
        > something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. 
this is
        > particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for 
example, as
        > it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now you can't 
do 
        > that
        > with this pesky face id rubbish!
        >
        > Simon
        >
        >
        > ----- Original Message ----- 
        > From: "Jed Barton" <j...@jedbarton.com <mailto:j...@jedbarton.com> >
        > To: "viphone" <viphone@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
        > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM
        > Subject: face id opinions wanted
        >
        >
        > Hey guys,
        >
        > OK, i need some input here on face ID.  I'm gonna be brutally honest,
        > i personally hate it.  I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on
        > technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not
        > as well as expected.  I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i
        > am with it, and i just do the home swipe.  It literally took me 17
        > minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the
        > towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face.  it would
        > tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess
        > that's too much.  Has anyone else had a similar experience?
        > I have 1 appearance setup on my phone.  What i find, out of 20 times
        > i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time.  Another
        > thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my
        > phone to do something.  It never has worked yet when i'm laying down.
        > In my eyes, this is not acceptable.  I like to be productive with my
        > phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing
        > open. The fingerprint was way more reliable.  Has anyone else
        > experienced this, am i alone?  Help me out here guys.
        >
        > Thanks,
        >
        > Jed
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