RE: Sirius XM iPhone App

[Alan Lemly]

Mike,

 

I’m also running an iPhone SE 2020 but only have one Sirius XM account which is 
the streaming service I use just with my iPhone. I set up that account at the 
Sirius XM website using my computer and logged into the app using that user 
name and password set up on the website.  Do you have more than one Sirius XM 
account? I would think whichever account you’ve set up on their website for use 
with your iPhone could be used to log into the app by going to Settings on the 
app’s bottomline toolbar at the far right.

 

Good luck.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 6:30 PM
To: viPhone 
Subject: Sirius XM iPhone App

 

Hi All,

 

Running an SE 2020 phone with iOS14.5.1.  Can anyone please tell me how I can 
change the password for my Sirius XM app?  I can't find anything for the Sirius 
app, only for our house and vehicle accounts on the website.  All help is 
greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.

 

 

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

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Re: The disaster that is classical music on Apple Music

[Mary Otten]

Well, the audience is certainly bigger than voiceover users. Not that they 
shouldn’t do stuff for voiceover users, but they’re a huge company. And there’s 
just no reason for them not to have a better search mechanism. If a little 
dinky companies like tidal and prime phonic can do it, Apple really has zero 
excuse.


Sent from my iPhone

> On May 14, 2021, at 8:29 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> 
> Yes, Apple is a rich company. It is also a big company, with more than
> one billion iPhones in active use. It is likely that classical music
> is too small an audience to devote a lot of resources.  Classical
> lovers are better off ripping CD’s and transferring them to their
> device or finding classical radio streams they like.
> 
>> On 5/14/21, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> I have no idea. All I know is that Apple is a very rich company. They’re
>> really getting into services. And maybe classical just isn’t big enough for
>> them to mess with, but so far prime phonic is still in business. Maybe what
>> they need to do is buy prime phonic, but not screw it up like they did with
>> Siri, rather let prime phonic show apple how classical music should be done.
>> It’s really a good service, although the Accessibility is not that great.
>> That’s why I want Apple to get their stuff together.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 14, 2021, at 5:36 PM, Richard Turner 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I wonder if they use a different database than perhaps other services.
>>> Or, the CD itself had Bach as the Artist.
>>> I know I ran across that a lot with CD’s that I ripped into iTunes.
>>> I spent too much time editing the tagging so the Artist was actually the
>>> artist and not the composer, etc.
>>> 
>>> Pretty stupid.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but
>>> what they become by it."
>>> 
>>> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Web site: www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Mary Otten
>>> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 5:21 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: The disaster that is classical music on Apple Music
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Malcolm. I’ll have to check out that site. I was really interested
>>> in this new service the Apple is supposed to offer. But I surely do wish
>>> they would get their classical act together. People have been complaining
>>> for years, but I guess we’re such a small group that Apple doesn’t care.
>>> It’s not like they don’t have the resources.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 14, 2021, at 4:49 PM, Malcolm Parfitt 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The short answer to the question is no.
>>> 
>>> Apple Music leaves a lot to be desired when searching for classical
>>> music.
>>> 
>>> Often I have found results by chance rather than by anything else.  Or I
>>> have followed a convoluted route and stumbled upon something of interest.
>>> 
>>> What I normally do is use the following site then type an interesting
>>> result into Apple Music and then listen to what I am interested in.
>>> 
>>> https://www.prestomusic.com/classical
>>> 
>>> I have found many albums by Hosé Carreras that Apple Music did not show
>>> when searching by their facility alone.
>>> His recording of Cavalleria Rusticana being one example.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 15 May 2021, at 00:32, Richard Turner 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Hi Mary,
>>> Not that this helps, but I just searched in Amazon Music for Bach
>>> Brandenburg concertos, and the first result was the entire 6 concertos
>>> recorded by the English Consort.
>>> Sea what you get with Apple Music.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds
>>> discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
>>> 
>>> www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 14, 2021, at 3:52 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have been in Apple Music subscriber for years. I’m still waiting for
>>> them to get classical music where it’s at all usable. It’s ridiculous that
>>> you can’t search for composers. You can’t enter the name of a composer and
>>> a specific piece. You may get stuff, single movements of piano Concerto’s
>>> mixed in with God knows what else. For a company that is supposed to be so
>>> great, they are the worst when it comes to classical. I know it’s not too
>>> popular, but a lot of people who buy high resolution streaming services
>>> like classical period and Apple is rumored to be coming out with one. Has
>>> anyone found a way around Apple Music and it’s ridiculous approach, where
>>> you cannot search for a composer and a specific piece and actually get
>>> what you want?
>>> 
>>> 
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RE: The disaster that is classical music on Apple Music

[Simon A Fogarty]

I’d suggest checking out spotify and see what you find.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, 15 May 2021 11:32 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The disaster that is classical music on Apple Music

Hi Mary,
Not that this helps, but I just searched in Amazon Music for Bach Brandenburg 
concertos, and the first result was the entire 6 concertos recorded by the 
English Consort.
Sea what you get with Apple Music.


Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com



On May 14, 2021, at 3:52 PM, Mary Otten 
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I have been in Apple Music subscriber for years. I’m still waiting for them to 
get classical music where it’s at all usable. It’s ridiculous that you can’t 
search for composers. You can’t enter the name of a composer and a specific 
piece. You may get stuff, single movements of piano Concerto’s mixed in with 
God knows what else. For a company that is supposed to be so great, they are 
the worst when it comes to classical. I know it’s not too popular, but a lot of 
people who buy high resolution streaming services like classical period and 
Apple is rumored to be coming out with one. Has anyone found a way around Apple 
Music and it’s ridiculous approach, where you cannot search for a composer and 
a specific piece and actually get what you want?


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Re: The disaster that is classical music on Apple Music

[Kelly Pierce]

Yes, Apple is a rich company. It is also a big company, with more than
one billion iPhones in active use. It is likely that classical music
is too small an audience to devote a lot of resources.  Classical
lovers are better off ripping CD’s and transferring them to their
device or finding classical radio streams they like.

On 5/14/21, Mary Otten  wrote:
> I have no idea. All I know is that Apple is a very rich company. They’re
> really getting into services. And maybe classical just isn’t big enough for
> them to mess with, but so far prime phonic is still in business. Maybe what
> they need to do is buy prime phonic, but not screw it up like they did with
> Siri, rather let prime phonic show apple how classical music should be done.
> It’s really a good service, although the Accessibility is not that great.
> That’s why I want Apple to get their stuff together.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 14, 2021, at 5:36 PM, Richard Turner 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> I wonder if they use a different database than perhaps other services.
>> Or, the CD itself had Bach as the Artist.
>> I know I ran across that a lot with CD’s that I ripped into iTunes.
>> I spent too much time editing the tagging so the Artist was actually the
>> artist and not the composer, etc.
>>
>> Pretty stupid.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but
>> what they become by it."
>>
>> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>>
>>
>> Web site: www.turner42.com
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Mary Otten
>> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 5:21 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: The disaster that is classical music on Apple Music
>>
>> Thanks, Malcolm. I’ll have to check out that site. I was really interested
>> in this new service the Apple is supposed to offer. But I surely do wish
>> they would get their classical act together. People have been complaining
>> for years, but I guess we’re such a small group that Apple doesn’t care.
>> It’s not like they don’t have the resources.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> On May 14, 2021, at 4:49 PM, Malcolm Parfitt 
>> wrote:
>>
>> The short answer to the question is no.
>>
>> Apple Music leaves a lot to be desired when searching for classical
>> music.
>>
>> Often I have found results by chance rather than by anything else.  Or I
>> have followed a convoluted route and stumbled upon something of interest.
>>
>> What I normally do is use the following site then type an interesting
>> result into Apple Music and then listen to what I am interested in.
>>
>> https://www.prestomusic.com/classical
>>
>> I have found many albums by Hosé Carreras that Apple Music did not show
>> when searching by their facility alone.
>> His recording of Cavalleria Rusticana being one example.
>>
>>
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>
>>
>> On 15 May 2021, at 00:32, Richard Turner 
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Hi Mary,
>> Not that this helps, but I just searched in Amazon Music for Bach
>> Brandenburg concertos, and the first result was the entire 6 concertos
>> recorded by the English Consort.
>> Sea what you get with Apple Music.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds
>> discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
>>
>> www.turner42.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 14, 2021, at 3:52 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>
>> I have been in Apple Music subscriber for years. I’m still waiting for
>> them to get classical music where it’s at all usable. It’s ridiculous that
>> you can’t search for composers. You can’t enter the name of a composer and
>> a specific piece. You may get stuff, single movements of piano Concerto’s
>> mixed in with God knows what else. For a company that is supposed to be so
>> great, they are the worst when it comes to classical. I know it’s not too
>> popular, but a lot of people who buy high resolution streaming services
>> like classical period and Apple is rumored to be coming out with one. Has
>> anyone found a way around Apple Music and it’s ridiculous approach, where
>> you cannot search for a composer and a specific piece and actually get
>> what you want?
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
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Re: Facebook

[Anthony Vece]

I updated and have had no prom.

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On May 14, 2021, at 9:05 PM, Bobby Druesedow  wrote:
> 
> I updated, and it seems that they broke the favorites tab. When I try to 
> read favorite posts, it's jibberish. It reads something, but I'm not sure 
> what it's reading from. The other things I have looked at seem to be ok. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 14, 2021, at 6:54 PM, Robert stigile  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> I see that there is an update to Facebook in my App Store.
> I’m wondering if anyone has updated it and if it breaks anything with 
> voiceover.
> 
> Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President
> National Federation of the Blind of California
> President San Fernando Valley Chapter
> 818-381-9568
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Re: Facebook

[Bobby Druesedow]

I updated, and it seems that they broke the favorites tab. When I try to read 
favorite posts, it's jibberish. It reads something, but I'm not sure what it's 
reading from. The other things I have looked at seem to be ok. 

Sent from my iPhone

On May 14, 2021, at 6:54 PM, Robert stigile  wrote:

Hello all,
I see that there is an update to Facebook in my App Store.
I’m wondering if anyone has updated it and if it breaks anything with voiceover.

Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President
National Federation of the Blind of California
President San Fernando Valley Chapter
818-381-9568

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Re: The disaster that is classical music on Apple Music

[Mary Otten]

I have no idea. All I know is that Apple is a very rich company. They’re really 
getting into services. And maybe classical just isn’t big enough for them to 
mess with, but so far prime phonic is still in business. Maybe what they need 
to do is buy prime phonic, but not screw it up like they did with Siri, rather 
let prime phonic show apple how classical music should be done. It’s really a 
good service, although the Accessibility is not that great. That’s why I want 
Apple to get their stuff together.


Sent from my iPhone

> On May 14, 2021, at 5:36 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I wonder if they use a different database than perhaps other services.
> Or, the CD itself had Bach as the Artist.
> I know I ran across that a lot with CD’s that I ripped into iTunes.
> I spent too much time editing the tagging so the Artist was actually the 
> artist and not the composer, etc.
>  
> Pretty stupid.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
> they become by it."
> 
> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
> 
>  
> Web site: www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 5:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: The disaster that is classical music on Apple Music
>  
> Thanks, Malcolm. I’ll have to check out that site. I was really interested in 
> this new service the Apple is supposed to offer. But I surely do wish they 
> would get their classical act together. People have been complaining for 
> years, but I guess we’re such a small group that Apple doesn’t care. It’s not 
> like they don’t have the resources.
>  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On May 14, 2021, at 4:49 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> The short answer to the question is no.
>  
> Apple Music leaves a lot to be desired when searching for classical music.
>  
> Often I have found results by chance rather than by anything else.  Or I have 
> followed a convoluted route and stumbled upon something of interest.
>  
> What I normally do is use the following site then type an interesting result 
> into Apple Music and then listen to what I am interested in.
>  
> https://www.prestomusic.com/classical
>  
> I have found many albums by Hosé Carreras that Apple Music did not show when 
> searching by their facility alone.
> His recording of Cavalleria Rusticana being one example.
>  
>  
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
> 
> On 15 May 2021, at 00:32, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
>  Hi Mary,
> Not that this helps, but I just searched in Amazon Music for Bach Brandenburg 
> concertos, and the first result was the entire 6 concertos recorded by the 
> English Consort.
> Sea what you get with Apple Music.
>  
> 
>  
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
>  
> www.turner42.com
>  
> 
> 
> On May 14, 2021, at 3:52 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I have been in Apple Music subscriber for years. I’m still waiting for them 
> to get classical music where it’s at all usable. It’s ridiculous that you 
> can’t search for composers. You can’t enter the name of a composer and a 
> specific piece. You may get stuff, single movements of piano Concerto’s mixed 
> in with God knows what else. For a company that is supposed to be so great, 
> they are the worst when it comes to classical. I know it’s not too popular, 
> but a lot of people who buy high resolution streaming services like classical 
> period and Apple is rumored to be coming out with one. Has anyone found a way 
> around Apple Music and it’s ridiculous approach, where you cannot search for 
> a composer and a specific piece and actually get what you want?
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RE: The disaster that is classical music on Apple Music

[Richard Turner]

I wonder if they use a different database than perhaps other services.
Or, the CD itself had Bach as the Artist.
I know I ran across that a lot with CD’s that I ripped into iTunes.
I spent too much time editing the tagging so the Artist was actually the artist 
and not the composer, etc.

Pretty stupid.



Richard
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Web site: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 5:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The disaster that is classical music on Apple Music

Thanks, Malcolm. I’ll have to check out that site. I was really interested in 
this new service the Apple is supposed to offer. But I surely do wish they 
would get their classical act together. People have been complaining for years, 
but I guess we’re such a small group that Apple doesn’t care. It’s not like 
they don’t have the resources.

Sent from my iPhone


On May 14, 2021, at 4:49 PM, Malcolm Parfitt 
mailto:malc...@parfitt1.org.uk>> wrote:
The short answer to the question is no.

Apple Music leaves a lot to be desired when searching for classical music.

Often I have found results by chance rather than by anything else.  Or I have 
followed a convoluted route and stumbled upon something of interest.

What I normally do is use the following site then type an interesting result 
into Apple Music and then listen to what I am interested in.

https://www.prestomusic.com/classical

I have found many albums by Hosé Carreras that Apple Music did not show when 
searching by their facility alone.
His recording of Cavalleria Rusticana being one example.


Malcolm Parfitt


On 15 May 2021, at 00:32, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 Hi Mary,
Not that this helps, but I just searched in Amazon Music for Bach Brandenburg 
concertos, and the first result was the entire 6 concertos recorded by the 
English Consort.
Sea what you get with Apple Music.


Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com



On May 14, 2021, at 3:52 PM, Mary Otten 
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I have been in Apple Music subscriber for years. I’m still waiting for them to 
get classical music where it’s at all usable. It’s ridiculous that you can’t 
search for composers. You can’t enter the name of a composer and a specific 
piece. You may get stuff, single movements of piano Concerto’s mixed in with 
God knows what else. For a company that is supposed to be so great, they are 
the worst when it comes to classical. I know it’s not too popular, but a lot of 
people who buy high resolution streaming services like classical period and 
Apple is rumored to be coming out with one. Has anyone found a way around Apple 
Music and it’s ridiculous approach, where you cannot search for a composer and 
a specific piece and actually get what you want?


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Re: The disaster that is classical music on Apple Music

[Mary Otten]

Thanks, Malcolm. I’ll have to check out that site. I was really interested in 
this new service the Apple is supposed to offer. But I surely do wish they 
would get their classical act together. People have been complaining for years, 
but I guess we’re such a small group that Apple doesn’t care. It’s not like 
they don’t have the resources.


Sent from my iPhone

> On May 14, 2021, at 4:49 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> The short answer to the question is no.
> 
> Apple Music leaves a lot to be desired when searching for classical music.
> 
> Often I have found results by chance rather than by anything else.  Or I have 
> followed a convoluted route and stumbled upon something of interest.
> 
> What I normally do is use the following site then type an interesting result 
> into Apple Music and then listen to what I am interested in.
> 
> https://www.prestomusic.com/classical
> 
> I have found many albums by Hosé Carreras that Apple Music did not show when 
> searching by their facility alone.
> His recording of Cavalleria Rusticana being one example.
> 
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
>>> On 15 May 2021, at 00:32, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>  Hi Mary,
>> Not that this helps, but I just searched in Amazon Music for Bach 
>> Brandenburg concertos, and the first result was the entire 6 concertos 
>> recorded by the English Consort.
>> Sea what you get with Apple Music.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard 
>> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds 
>> discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
>> 
>> www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 14, 2021, at 3:52 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have been in Apple Music subscriber for years. I’m still waiting for 
>>> them to get classical music where it’s at all usable. It’s ridiculous that 
>>> you can’t search for composers. You can’t enter the name of a composer and 
>>> a specific piece. You may get stuff, single movements of piano Concerto’s 
>>> mixed in with God knows what else. For a company that is supposed to be so 
>>> great, they are the worst when it comes to classical. I know it’s not too 
>>> popular, but a lot of people who buy high resolution streaming services 
>>> like classical period and Apple is rumored to be coming out with one. Has 
>>> anyone found a way around Apple Music and it’s ridiculous approach, where 
>>> you cannot search for a composer and a specific piece and actually get what 
>>> you want?
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: The disaster that is classical music on Apple Music

[Mary Otten]

Hi richard,
Well, it did better than it did with my other inquiry, and that the first 
couple of choices I got were actually recordings of the Brandenburg Concerto‘s. 
Amazing. Not the same ones you got, but at least they were the Concerto‘s. But 
then further down, if you keep flicking, you get to see how Apple thinks Bach 
is an artist, not a composer. Come on Apple. Really? Get your act together!


Sent from my iPhone

> On May 14, 2021, at 4:32 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  Hi Mary,
> Not that this helps, but I just searched in Amazon Music for Bach Brandenburg 
> concertos, and the first result was the entire 6 concertos recorded by the 
> English Consort.
> Sea what you get with Apple Music.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
> 
> www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>>> On May 14, 2021, at 3:52 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>> I have been in Apple Music subscriber for years. I’m still waiting for them 
>> to get classical music where it’s at all usable. It’s ridiculous that you 
>> can’t search for composers. You can’t enter the name of a composer and a 
>> specific piece. You may get stuff, single movements of piano Concerto’s 
>> mixed in with God knows what else. For a company that is supposed to be so 
>> great, they are the worst when it comes to classical. I know it’s not too 
>> popular, but a lot of people who buy high resolution streaming services like 
>> classical period and Apple is rumored to be coming out with one. Has anyone 
>> found a way around Apple Music and it’s ridiculous approach, where you 
>> cannot search for a composer and a specific piece and actually get what you 
>> want?
>> 
>> 
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Re: The disaster that is classical music on Apple Music

[Malcolm Parfitt]

If you want to listen to what in my opinion is a fantastic album, do a search 
for:

MDR Rundfunkchor & Risto Joost

Select their recording of the Rachmaninov All-Night Vigil.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 15 May 2021, at 00:49, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> The short answer to the question is no.
> 
> Apple Music leaves a lot to be desired when searching for classical music.
> 
> Often I have found results by chance rather than by anything else.  Or I have 
> followed a convoluted route and stumbled upon something of interest.
> 
> What I normally do is use the following site then type an interesting result 
> into Apple Music and then listen to what I am interested in.
> 
> https://www.prestomusic.com/classical
> 
> I have found many albums by Hosé Carreras that Apple Music did not show when 
> searching by their facility alone.
> His recording of Cavalleria Rusticana being one example.
> 
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
>>> On 15 May 2021, at 00:32, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>  Hi Mary,
>> Not that this helps, but I just searched in Amazon Music for Bach 
>> Brandenburg concertos, and the first result was the entire 6 concertos 
>> recorded by the English Consort.
>> Sea what you get with Apple Music.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard 
>> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds 
>> discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
>> 
>> www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 14, 2021, at 3:52 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have been in Apple Music subscriber for years. I’m still waiting for 
>>> them to get classical music where it’s at all usable. It’s ridiculous that 
>>> you can’t search for composers. You can’t enter the name of a composer and 
>>> a specific piece. You may get stuff, single movements of piano Concerto’s 
>>> mixed in with God knows what else. For a company that is supposed to be so 
>>> great, they are the worst when it comes to classical. I know it’s not too 
>>> popular, but a lot of people who buy high resolution streaming services 
>>> like classical period and Apple is rumored to be coming out with one. Has 
>>> anyone found a way around Apple Music and it’s ridiculous approach, where 
>>> you cannot search for a composer and a specific piece and actually get what 
>>> you want?
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: The disaster that is classical music on Apple Music

[Malcolm Parfitt]

The short answer to the question is no.

Apple Music leaves a lot to be desired when searching for classical music.

Often I have found results by chance rather than by anything else.  Or I have 
followed a convoluted route and stumbled upon something of interest.

What I normally do is use the following site then type an interesting result 
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https://www.prestomusic.com/classical

I have found many albums by Hosé Carreras that Apple Music did not show when 
searching by their facility alone.
His recording of Cavalleria Rusticana being one example.


Malcolm Parfitt

> On 15 May 2021, at 00:32, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
>  Hi Mary,
> Not that this helps, but I just searched in Amazon Music for Bach Brandenburg 
> concertos, and the first result was the entire 6 concertos recorded by the 
> English Consort.
> Sea what you get with Apple Music.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
> 
> www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>>> On May 14, 2021, at 3:52 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>> I have been in Apple Music subscriber for years. I’m still waiting for them 
>> to get classical music where it’s at all usable. It’s ridiculous that you 
>> can’t search for composers. You can’t enter the name of a composer and a 
>> specific piece. You may get stuff, single movements of piano Concerto’s 
>> mixed in with God knows what else. For a company that is supposed to be so 
>> great, they are the worst when it comes to classical. I know it’s not too 
>> popular, but a lot of people who buy high resolution streaming services like 
>> classical period and Apple is rumored to be coming out with one. Has anyone 
>> found a way around Apple Music and it’s ridiculous approach, where you 
>> cannot search for a composer and a specific piece and actually get what you 
>> want?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: The disaster that is classical music on Apple Music

[Richard Turner]

Hi Mary,
Not that this helps, but I just searched in Amazon Music for Bach Brandenburg 
concertos, and the first result was the entire 6 concertos recorded by the 
English Consort.
Sea what you get with Apple Music.



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On May 14, 2021, at 3:52 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

I have been in Apple Music subscriber for years. I’m still waiting for them to 
get classical music where it’s at all usable. It’s ridiculous that you can’t 
search for composers. You can’t enter the name of a composer and a specific 
piece. You may get stuff, single movements of piano Concerto’s mixed in with 
God knows what else. For a company that is supposed to be so great, they are 
the worst when it comes to classical. I know it’s not too popular, but a lot of 
people who buy high resolution streaming services like classical period and 
Apple is rumored to be coming out with one. Has anyone found a way around Apple 
Music and it’s ridiculous approach, where you cannot search for a composer and 
a specific piece and actually get what you want?


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Sirius XM iPhone App

[Mike B]

Hi All,

Running an SE 2020 phone with iOS14.5.1.  Can anyone please tell me how I 
can change the password for my Sirius XM app?  I can't find anything for the 
Sirius app, only for our house and vehicle accounts on the website.  All 
help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.


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The disaster that is classical music on Apple Music

[Mary Otten]

I have been in Apple Music subscriber for years. I’m still waiting for them to 
get classical music where it’s at all usable. It’s ridiculous that you can’t 
search for composers. You can’t enter the name of a composer and a specific 
piece. You may get stuff, single movements of piano Concerto’s mixed in with 
God knows what else. For a company that is supposed to be so great, they are 
the worst when it comes to classical. I know it’s not too popular, but a lot of 
people who buy high resolution streaming services like classical period and 
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Music and it’s ridiculous approach, where you cannot search for a composer and 
a specific piece and actually get what you want?


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Re: Absolutely horrendous iPhone SE Second Generation Problem

[Nancy Hill]

Do you have any idea/s what the trigger to this type of behavior might be?


nancy

On 5/14/2021 2:36 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone wrote:
I too had this problem and tried turning off image recognition and so 
on but the only thing that worked was to reset all settings. A right 
royal pain but it got rid of that dratted sound on my SE second 
generation!

Harry

On 14 May 2021, at 05:34, Richard Turner 
 wrote:


 It sounds like you could have turned on the new, useless, screen 
recongnition and/or describe images.

Or, you got braille screen input on.
I doubt it has to do with Voice Control; but who knows.
I'm not sure what the chirping sound is but it sounds like something 
being eneabled or disabled.

Best of luck.



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On May 13, 2021, at 9:26 PM, Christine Grassman 
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Good day all:
As the subject indicates, I have an iPHone SE Second Generation, 
running the latest software, that up until several hours ago, was 
absolutely fine.
Suddenly, as I was changing my display name in my Zoom app, a 
bizarre chirping noise sounded, followed several seconds later by 
the same sound.  Seemingly simultaneously, I became unable to use 
dictation or the text field to change my name, even though it said 
“editing”.

I tried in the Safari address bar. Same result.
I rebooted the phone. Same thing.
I called Apple. I was told to go to my Settings and restore 
settings. When it came time to put in my passcode . . . you guess it 
. . . the same thing happened, and I was unable to complete the restore.
So off to my MacBook. (I luckily had a recent iCloud backup. I 
restored settings. Input all the needed information to get to the 
restore from backup process. All went smoothly. I put in a passcode. 
Tried using an edit field in messages and other places. Same weird 
sound, same inability to type, though at the moment dictation is 
working.

However, this is obviously not sustainable.
Please advise. I suspect this is a Genius Bar appointment, but I 
don’t even know if Apple is having people come to physical stores 
yet. Has anyone heard of this? Is there a fix? A workaround? Thanks.

Christine

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Re: Cash App

[Esther]

hi, les, oops, I found a Cash Reader which identifies multiple currencies. I 
guess that was the one you were referring to. Take care. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On May 14, 2021, at 12:07 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
> 
> In the U.S, it is $25. Well worth the price in my Pinyan if you wish to 
> identify multiple currencies.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On May 14, 2021, at 11:57 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> The difference is that one is a dedicated currency recognition app which can 
>> do hundreds of currencies and apart from spoken feedback also offers 
>> feedback via vibrations and the other, Seeing AI, is an app which among 
>> quite a few other things can recognize a few of the major currencies of this 
>> world such as USD, CAD, Euro etc.
>> Another difference is that Seeing AI is free to use because Microsoft is 
>> behind it with their hundreds of Billions of Dollars in revenues and a 
>> project like Seeing AI is probably a tax write-off for them and 
>> Cash Reader is quite expensive as apps go, not sure about US price, but 
>> based on the Canadian price I assume it maybe $19.99 US. But it does get 
>> quite frequent updates when more currencies are added or existing ones are 
>> updated as governments change the design of their bills. Cash Reader is 
>> extremely powerful and especially if you don't set it to automatically 
>> recognize the currency which means it compares whichever banknote you have 
>> with over 600 banknotes in its database, it is very fast and accurate and 
>> often needs to see only a portion of the bill. I have mine set to Canadian 
>> dollars and it makes no different if the bill is folded or not or which 
>> quarter of a folded bill I show to the app.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Jenifer Barr
>> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 1:44 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Cash App
>>  
>> What is the difference between cash reader and Seeing AI's currency reader? 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On May 13, 2021, at 11:22 AM, Michael Irons  wrote:
>> 
>> I looked up cash reader in the App Store. It is free for a period of time 
>> and, then, they want you to buy it. It is probably worth mine if you need to 
>> deal with a lot of different currencies.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On May 13, 2021, at 8:45 AM, Noe Villeda  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, it is cash reader.
>> Sorry about that, I thought it was called cash app.
>>  
>>  
>> 
>> On May 13, 2021, at 8:40 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>> 
>> They may be talking about cash reader?
>>  
>> Jenn
>> 
>> Jenn and Kumi
>> 
>> 
>> On May 12, 2021, at 5:39 PM, Noe Villeda  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hello all,
>>  
>> I just upgraded cell phones, and I can’t figure out how to reinstate my cash 
>> app subscription.  I bought the lifetime version, but when I go to settings, 
>> and try to restore the subscription, nothing happens.
>>  
>> I’d appreciate any suggestions, as I found out that eye note does not read 
>> with I O S 14.5.1.
>>  
>> Noe
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Re: Cash App

[Esther]

Hi, Les

I went into the App Store and I did find cash app, but it didn't say anything 
about a cost of $25. I would've gladly paid that price. I assume that cash app 
is two words. Any help you can provide would certainly be appreciated. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On May 14, 2021, at 12:07 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
> 
> In the U.S, it is $25. Well worth the price in my Pinyan if you wish to 
> identify multiple currencies.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On May 14, 2021, at 11:57 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> The difference is that one is a dedicated currency recognition app which can 
>> do hundreds of currencies and apart from spoken feedback also offers 
>> feedback via vibrations and the other, Seeing AI, is an app which among 
>> quite a few other things can recognize a few of the major currencies of this 
>> world such as USD, CAD, Euro etc.
>> Another difference is that Seeing AI is free to use because Microsoft is 
>> behind it with their hundreds of Billions of Dollars in revenues and a 
>> project like Seeing AI is probably a tax write-off for them and 
>> Cash Reader is quite expensive as apps go, not sure about US price, but 
>> based on the Canadian price I assume it maybe $19.99 US. But it does get 
>> quite frequent updates when more currencies are added or existing ones are 
>> updated as governments change the design of their bills. Cash Reader is 
>> extremely powerful and especially if you don't set it to automatically 
>> recognize the currency which means it compares whichever banknote you have 
>> with over 600 banknotes in its database, it is very fast and accurate and 
>> often needs to see only a portion of the bill. I have mine set to Canadian 
>> dollars and it makes no different if the bill is folded or not or which 
>> quarter of a folded bill I show to the app.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Jenifer Barr
>> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 1:44 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Cash App
>>  
>> What is the difference between cash reader and Seeing AI's currency reader? 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On May 13, 2021, at 11:22 AM, Michael Irons  wrote:
>> 
>> I looked up cash reader in the App Store. It is free for a period of time 
>> and, then, they want you to buy it. It is probably worth mine if you need to 
>> deal with a lot of different currencies.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On May 13, 2021, at 8:45 AM, Noe Villeda  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, it is cash reader.
>> Sorry about that, I thought it was called cash app.
>>  
>>  
>> 
>> On May 13, 2021, at 8:40 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>> 
>> They may be talking about cash reader?
>>  
>> Jenn
>> 
>> Jenn and Kumi
>> 
>> 
>> On May 12, 2021, at 5:39 PM, Noe Villeda  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hello all,
>>  
>> I just upgraded cell phones, and I can’t figure out how to reinstate my cash 
>> app subscription.  I bought the lifetime version, but when I go to settings, 
>> and try to restore the subscription, nothing happens.
>>  
>> I’d appreciate any suggestions, as I found out that eye note does not read 
>> with I O S 14.5.1.
>>  
>> Noe
>>  
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RE: Speaking of smart thermostats...

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I don't think the fact a thermostat has a touch screen necessarily means it has 
WiFi connectivity.
If your husband is sighted I would get him to check through the menus to see if 
a model number is listed somewhere or he may have to pop it off the wall and 
see if there is a label in the back, such devices normally have to have 
information listed somewhere regarding FCC complyance, model and serial number 
etc.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Traci 
Duncan
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 9:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speaking of smart thermostats...

Hi all, does anyone know how to figure out the model of Honeywell. We have just 
moved into this house and inherited a touchscreen Honeywell thermostat, but we 
have no idea what the model is. We also can't figure out if it connects to 
Wi-Fi or not. Surely it does, if it's all touchscreen. What are your thoughts?

Thank you,
Traci



On May 1, 2021, at 8:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

You should look a the Lyric series of Honeywell thermostats like the T6, T9, 
T10 etc., they use the Honeywell Home app which is quite accessible. I haven't 
played around with the schedule much because my wife and I are not keeping a 
schedule to the point where it would even make sense to set one up. We also 
have our Honeywell T5, this I think is a discontinued model, but it was very 
inexpensive at $99 at the time) connected to Alexa so whenever we want to 
change the temperature we simply ask Alexa to do so.

From: 
viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Speaking of smart thermostats...

BTW, I just took another stab at the scheduling feature in the Total Connect 
Comfort app that works with Honeywell thermostats, and I was able to adjust it 
with a little tedious double checking.
But it is better than it was and it is mostly accessible.



Richard
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they become by it."
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From: 
viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Speaking of smart thermostats...

Hi Mike,

We have had a VIP Talking Thermostat for years, well actually we have probably 
had three or four of them due to issues with them.  It is again not working 
well, so we are now investigating smart thermostats.

Just curious, which smart thermostat do you have, and what do you find less 
workable about it?

Thanks,
Pam



From: 
viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 1:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speaking of smart thermostats...

Hi Tracy,

We have 2 homes and we have a smart thermostat in 1, and a VIP talking 
thermostat in the other.  If we were to stay in 1 place I would choose the VIP 
Talking Thermostat because of its ease of use and the speaking confirmation of 
setting changes and instructions.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 9:30 AM
Subject: RE: Speaking of smart thermostats...

We have a Honeywell model that works quite well.  The schedule section of the 
app is difficult/not worth using with VoiceOver.

But, Once the program is set, you can do adjustments quite easily.

The Ecobee looks like a tech geeks dream but who wants music coming out of 
their thermostat, really?

Check with your utility company, they may have some great deals on smart 
thermostats.

I do not know, even with ours, if you can use Alexa to set a schedule.  I have 
not tried that as I am spoiled by having a sighted wife to do those things.


The one down side of smart thermostats is that if your internet goes down, you 
would have to be able to use the controls on the device to make adjustments.
But, it will still work on the schedule I believe.
HTH,


Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."
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From: 

RE: Cash App

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It's been some time since I bought it here in Canada and I thought I paid 
$24.99 Canadian, but either I did and it was cheaper when I bought it or I 
remember it incorrectly. I just checked the Canadian App Store and it is $3499 
Canadian.
Keep in mind that the initial download is free and includes identification of 
the two lowest banknotes in your currency, e.g. here in Canada that would be 
the $5 and $10 bills. The $34.99 Canadian would be an in-app purchase and this 
is for a lifetime subscription for unlimited recognition.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 9:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Cash App

In the U.S, it is $25. Well worth the price in my Pinyan if you wish to 
identify multiple currencies.
Sent from my iPhone


On May 14, 2021, at 11:57 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

The difference is that one is a dedicated currency recognition app which can do 
hundreds of currencies and apart from spoken feedback also offers feedback via 
vibrations and the other, Seeing AI, is an app which among quite a few other 
things can recognize a few of the major currencies of this world such as USD, 
CAD, Euro etc.
Another difference is that Seeing AI is free to use because Microsoft is behind 
it with their hundreds of Billions of Dollars in revenues and a project like 
Seeing AI is probably a tax write-off for them and
Cash Reader is quite expensive as apps go, not sure about US price, but based 
on the Canadian price I assume it maybe $19.99 US. But it does get quite 
frequent updates when more currencies are added or existing ones are updated as 
governments change the design of their bills. Cash Reader is extremely powerful 
and especially if you don't set it to automatically recognize the currency 
which means it compares whichever banknote you have with over 600 banknotes in 
its database, it is very fast and accurate and often needs to see only a 
portion of the bill. I have mine set to Canadian dollars and it makes no 
different if the bill is folded or not or which quarter of a folded bill I show 
to the app.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jenifer 
Barr
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 1:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Cash App

What is the difference between cash reader and Seeing AI's currency reader?
Sent from my iPhone



On May 13, 2021, at 11:22 AM, Michael Irons  wrote:
I looked up cash reader in the App Store. It is free for a period of time and, 
then, they want you to buy it. It is probably worth mine if you need to deal 
with a lot of different currencies.
Sent from my iPhone

On May 13, 2021, at 8:45 AM, Noe Villeda 
mailto:noeville...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yes, it is cash reader.
Sorry about that, I thought it was called cash app.



On May 13, 2021, at 8:40 AM, Jennie Facer 
mailto:jennie.fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
They may be talking about cash reader?

Jenn
Jenn and Kumi



On May 12, 2021, at 5:39 PM, Noe Villeda 
mailto:noeville...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello all,

I just upgraded cell phones, and I can’t figure out how to reinstate my cash 
app subscription.  I bought the lifetime version, but when I go to settings, 
and try to restore the subscription, nothing happens.

I’d appreciate any suggestions, as I found out that eye note does not read with 
I O S 14.5.1.

Noe


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Re: Speaking of smart thermostats...

[Traci Duncan]

Hi all, does anyone know how to figure out the model of Honeywell. We have just 
moved into this house and inherited a touchscreen Honeywell thermostat, but we 
have no idea what the model is. We also can't figure out if it connects to 
Wi-Fi or not. Surely it does, if it's all touchscreen. What are your thoughts?

Thank you,
Traci
 

> On May 1, 2021, at 8:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> You should look a the Lyric series of Honeywell thermostats like the T6, T9, 
> T10 etc., they use the Honeywell Home app which is quite accessible. I 
> haven't played around with the schedule much because my wife and I are not 
> keeping a schedule to the point where it would even make sense to set one up. 
> We also have our Honeywell T5, this I think is a discontinued model, but it 
> was very inexpensive at $99 at the time) connected to Alexa so whenever we 
> want to change the temperature we simply ask Alexa to do so.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 10:50 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Speaking of smart thermostats...
>  
> BTW, I just took another stab at the scheduling feature in the Total Connect 
> Comfort app that works with Honeywell thermostats, and I was able to adjust 
> it with a little tedious double checking.
> But it is better than it was and it is mostly accessible.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
> they become by it."
> 
> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
> 
>  
> Web site: www.turner42.com 
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 10:48 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Speaking of smart thermostats...
>  
> Hi Mike,
>  
> We have had a VIP Talking Thermostat for years, well actually we have 
> probably had three or four of them due to issues with them.  It is again not 
> working well, so we are now investigating smart thermostats.
>  
> Just curious, which smart thermostat do you have, and what do you find less 
> workable about it?
>  
> Thanks,
> Pam
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Mike B
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 1:37 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Speaking of smart thermostats...
>  
> Hi Tracy,
>  
> We have 2 homes and we have a smart thermostat in 1, and a VIP talking 
> thermostat in the other.  If we were to stay in 1 place I would choose the 
> VIP Talking Thermostat because of its ease of use and the speaking 
> confirmation of setting changes and instructions.  
>  
> Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
> - Original Message -
> From: Richard Turner 
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 9:30 AM
> Subject: RE: Speaking of smart thermostats...
>  
> We have a Honeywell model that works quite well.  The schedule section of the 
> app is difficult/not worth using with VoiceOver.
>  
> But, Once the program is set, you can do adjustments quite easily.
>  
> The Ecobee looks like a tech geeks dream but who wants music coming out of 
> their thermostat, really?
>  
> Check with your utility company, they may have some great deals on smart 
> thermostats.
>  
> I do not know, even with ours, if you can use Alexa to set a schedule.  I 
> have not tried that as I am spoiled by having a sighted wife to do those 
> things.
>  
>  
> The one down side of smart thermostats is that if your internet goes down, 
> you would have to be able to use the controls on the device to make 
> adjustments.
> But, it will still work on the schedule I believe.
> HTH,
>  
>  
> Richard
> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
> they become by it."
> 
> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
> 
>  
> Web site: www.turner42.com 
> 
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Traci Duncan
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 9:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Speaking of smart thermostats...
>  
> Hi all, I’m in the market for an accessible thermostat. I cannot decide 
> between a smart one or replacing my talking 

RE: Absolutely horrendous iPhone SE Second Generation Problem

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Screen recognition can result in strange issues, in Facebook, for example, it 
causes all the tabs along th ebotton to disappear and the odd time when I 
accidently turned it on it took me a bit to finally figure out what happened. 
However, as Christopher said, it is not useless since there are apps which 
would be completely inaccessible it it were not for screen recognition. We use 
3CX at my retail store for our phone system. It's an open-source VoIP platform 
and their iOS app is useless with
Voiceover except that after you turn on screen recognition in that app it 
becomes extremely useable.

Best regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 4:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Absolutely horrendous iPhone SE Second Generation Problem

Just an aside, but I don’t find screen recognition or describe images useless. 
Lots of times it’s just interesting to see what sighted people see or what my 
phone looks like, but it’s also been helpful in a few situations. I agree that 
it’s nice it’s a toggle so people can turn it off, and I get that some people 
won’t like it, but I wouldn’t call it useless even if I didn’t use it.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 11:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Absolutely horrendous iPhone SE Second Generation Problem

It sounds like you could have turned on the new, useless, screen recongnition 
and/or describe images.
Or, you got braille screen input on.
I doubt it has to do with Voice Control; but who knows.
I'm not sure what the chirping sound is but it sounds like something being 
eneabled or disabled.
Best of luck.


Richard
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people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

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On May 13, 2021, at 9:26 PM, Christine Grassman 
mailto:cgrassman1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Good day all:
As the subject indicates, I have an iPHone SE Second Generation, running the 
latest software, that up until several hours ago, was absolutely fine.
Suddenly, as I was changing my display name in my Zoom app, a bizarre chirping 
noise sounded, followed several seconds later by the same sound.  Seemingly 
simultaneously, I became unable to use dictation or the text field to change my 
name, even though it said “editing”.
I tried in the Safari address bar. Same result.
I rebooted the phone. Same thing.
I called Apple. I was told to go to my Settings and restore settings. When it 
came time to put in my passcode . . . you guess it . . . the same thing 
happened, and I was unable to complete the restore.
So off to my MacBook. (I luckily had a recent iCloud backup. I restored 
settings. Input all the needed information to get to the restore from backup 
process. All went smoothly. I put in a passcode. Tried using an edit field in 
messages and other places. Same weird sound, same inability to type, though at 
the moment dictation is working.
However, this is obviously not sustainable.
Please advise. I suspect this is a Genius Bar appointment, but I don’t even 
know if Apple is having people come to physical stores yet. Has anyone heard of 
this? Is there a fix? A workaround? Thanks.
Christine

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RE: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY

[Sieghard Weitzel]

That is not like my Logitech K780.
When I am using my Windows laptop the keys from left to right are Control, FN, 
Windows Key and Alt
When I use it with iOS it is Control, FN, Option and Command.
Clearly the Windows Key = Options and the Alt key = Command at least on this 
keyboard.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 10:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY

I see we are discovering that this varies based on who designs the keyboard we 
use. I have a keyboard that pairs with iOS, android and windows. My bottom left 
keys are:
ctrl, fn command option
- Original Message -
From: Gerardo Corripio
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 5:48 PM
Subject: RE: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY

I’ve always known that Alt=Command, and Option?where the Windows key would be 
between Command and Control, or in some keyboards like on my Elle-Gate, you’ve 
the Command or Alt, going left Option or Windows, another left Function, and 
the most-left one, is the Control key. Good luck!

Enviado desde Correo para 
Windows 10

De: Simon A Fogarty
Enviado: jueves, 13 de mayo de 2021 06:32 p. m.
Para: viphone@googlegroups.com
Asunto: RE: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY

Sorry no,
Option key is the alt key on a windows keyboard,

Windows key and command key are the same ones.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: Friday, 14 May 2021 7:45 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY

The Control+Omtion combo is the VO one: Option is the same as the Windows key 
on the Pc keyboard; whereas the ALT is the Command key. Hope this helps!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 13 may 2021, a la(s) 2:39 p.m., Joe Orozco  escribió:
>
> Hi, can someone please take me back to fundamentals and help me
> understand what makes up a VO command on a QWERTY keyboard? I recently
> tested a Mantis Q40 where the bottom row of keys was: Left CTRL,
> Function, Windows, and Left Alt.
>
> Now, if I'm understanding correctly, the CTRL is called the Command
> key in Apple world. The Alt key is called Option. I thought using
> Command plus Option made up the VO key.
>
> Yet, earlier today I was reading an article where it said you should
> use Command with VO to perform certain functions. So, maybe I am
> completely off. I find navigating with VO on a keyboard more difficult
> than it needs to be. Now, I did switch the VO key to my Caps key in
> iOS, but I don't like feeling dumb about how to manipulate my phone
> using the traditional VO keys. If someone could enlighten me, I would
> be very appreciative.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe
>
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RE: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Simon, Richard is correct, I have a Logitech K780 which is a Windows keyboard 
but automatically detects which OS is used and adjusts accordingly. If I switch 
it to my iPhone and start keyboard help, pressing the Alt key announces Command 
and pressing the Windows key announces Option.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 4:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY

Richard,

I’m sitting here writing on a mac book air running windows 10

Remember that on the mac keyboard
The layout from left to right on the bottom row,

Fn, ctrl,alt (option), command (windows),

If this was a windows keyboard then you could have only 3 keys on the bottom 
row,
That would be CTRL, widnows key, alt,

Some windows machines have 4 keys and can be either,

Ctrl, fn, windows, alt,

Or fn, ctrl windows, alt.

What I’d suggest you do on your Logitech keyboard is to put it / the device in 
to keyboard help mode and then press the keys to know which one is which,


hth

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, 14 May 2021 11:35 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY

Well, this is me writing on the Logitech K860 Ergonomic keyboard which is 
designed first for Windows I believe.
So, for me, using this on my iPhone, Windows key equals options.  Alt key 
equals command.
I demonstrated that to myself by using the next or prior word command which is 
options plus left or right arrow when quickNav is off.
Writing this email, If I press Windows Key plus left or right arrow I move by 
word.
If I press alt plus left or right arrow, nothing happens.

So I guess it is really important to know if they are using a Apple keyboard 
with Windows, or a Windows keyboard with an Apple device.
It is lovely how confusing this can be.



Richard
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On May 13, 2021, at 4:19 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
Richard,

Not right sorry,

Ctrol as you say is ctrl,

Alt is option
Windows is command,

Function is function,

That's why when using a mac keyboard for windows you use command for windows
And option for alt,

Vise versa on a windows keyboard type.
You had it pretty right just inverted.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, 14 May 2021 8:52 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY

Sure.
Control key is always Control whether on Windows, Mac, or iOS.
I always thought Alt was Options, but it is probably Command, and Windows 
equals Options.
So, windows+control+spacebar would be the VO command for double tap.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Joe 
Orozco
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 12:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY

Hi, can someone please take me back to fundamentals and help me understand what 
makes up a VO command on a QWERTY keyboard? I recently tested a Mantis Q40 
where the bottom row of keys was: Left CTRL, Function, Windows, and Left Alt.

Now, if I'm understanding correctly, the CTRL is called the Command key in 
Apple world. The Alt key is called Option. I thought using Command plus Option 
made up the VO key.

Yet, earlier today I was reading an article where it said you should use 
Command with VO to perform certain functions. So, maybe I am completely off. I 
find navigating with VO on a keyboard more difficult than it needs to be. Now, 
I did switch the VO key to my Caps key in iOS, but I don't like feeling dumb 
about how to manipulate my phone using the traditional VO keys. If someone 
could enlighten me, I would be very appreciative.

Thanks,

Joe


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Re: Cash App

[Les Kriegler]

In the U.S, it is $25. Well worth the price in my Pinyan if you wish to 
identify multiple currencies.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 14, 2021, at 11:57 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> The difference is that one is a dedicated currency recognition app which can 
> do hundreds of currencies and apart from spoken feedback also offers feedback 
> via vibrations and the other, Seeing AI, is an app which among quite a few 
> other things can recognize a few of the major currencies of this world such 
> as USD, CAD, Euro etc.
> Another difference is that Seeing AI is free to use because Microsoft is 
> behind it with their hundreds of Billions of Dollars in revenues and a 
> project like Seeing AI is probably a tax write-off for them and 
> Cash Reader is quite expensive as apps go, not sure about US price, but based 
> on the Canadian price I assume it maybe $19.99 US. But it does get quite 
> frequent updates when more currencies are added or existing ones are updated 
> as governments change the design of their bills. Cash Reader is extremely 
> powerful and especially if you don't set it to automatically recognize the 
> currency which means it compares whichever banknote you have with over 600 
> banknotes in its database, it is very fast and accurate and often needs to 
> see only a portion of the bill. I have mine set to Canadian dollars and it 
> makes no different if the bill is folded or not or which quarter of a folded 
> bill I show to the app.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Jenifer Barr
> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 1:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Cash App
>  
> What is the difference between cash reader and Seeing AI's currency reader? 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On May 13, 2021, at 11:22 AM, Michael Irons  wrote:
> 
> I looked up cash reader in the App Store. It is free for a period of time 
> and, then, they want you to buy it. It is probably worth mine if you need to 
> deal with a lot of different currencies.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 13, 2021, at 8:45 AM, Noe Villeda  wrote:
> 
> Yes, it is cash reader.
> Sorry about that, I thought it was called cash app.
>  
>  
> 
> On May 13, 2021, at 8:40 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> They may be talking about cash reader?
>  
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
> 
> On May 12, 2021, at 5:39 PM, Noe Villeda  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello all,
>  
> I just upgraded cell phones, and I can’t figure out how to reinstate my cash 
> app subscription.  I bought the lifetime version, but when I go to settings, 
> and try to restore the subscription, nothing happens.
>  
> I’d appreciate any suggestions, as I found out that eye note does not read 
> with I O S 14.5.1.
>  
> Noe
>  
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RE: Printing messages

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I just had a look and there is no option for printing text messages. The only 
work-around would be to take a screenshot and then print that.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 9:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Printing messages

I know nothing about printing text messages, but emails are pretty straight 
forward once you have a printer your phone can see.
Open the email.
Double tap on More Actions.
Flick through about all of the options until you get to print.
Then it depends on your printer what you do next.
HTH,


Richard
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On May 13, 2021, at 5:49 PM, Donald L. Roberts  
wrote:


I sometimes wish to print incoming text messages or email messages on my HP 
wireless printer.  Please tell me step by step how to do this. I understand how 
to forward messages but just cannot get the hang of printing them.

My iPhone S E 20 is running IOS 14.5.

Thanks.



Don Roberts


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RE: Cash App

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The difference is that one is a dedicated currency recognition app which can do 
hundreds of currencies and apart from spoken feedback also offers feedback via 
vibrations and the other, Seeing AI, is an app which among quite a few other 
things can recognize a few of the major currencies of this world such as USD, 
CAD, Euro etc.
Another difference is that Seeing AI is free to use because Microsoft is behind 
it with their hundreds of Billions of Dollars in revenues and a project like 
Seeing AI is probably a tax write-off for them and
Cash Reader is quite expensive as apps go, not sure about US price, but based 
on the Canadian price I assume it maybe $19.99 US. But it does get quite 
frequent updates when more currencies are added or existing ones are updated as 
governments change the design of their bills. Cash Reader is extremely powerful 
and especially if you don't set it to automatically recognize the currency 
which means it compares whichever banknote you have with over 600 banknotes in 
its database, it is very fast and accurate and often needs to see only a 
portion of the bill. I have mine set to Canadian dollars and it makes no 
different if the bill is folded or not or which quarter of a folded bill I show 
to the app.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jenifer 
Barr
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 1:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Cash App

What is the difference between cash reader and Seeing AI's currency reader?
Sent from my iPhone


On May 13, 2021, at 11:22 AM, Michael Irons  wrote:
I looked up cash reader in the App Store. It is free for a period of time and, 
then, they want you to buy it. It is probably worth mine if you need to deal 
with a lot of different currencies.
Sent from my iPhone

On May 13, 2021, at 8:45 AM, Noe Villeda 
mailto:noeville...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yes, it is cash reader.
Sorry about that, I thought it was called cash app.



On May 13, 2021, at 8:40 AM, Jennie Facer 
mailto:jennie.fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
They may be talking about cash reader?

Jenn
Jenn and Kumi


On May 12, 2021, at 5:39 PM, Noe Villeda 
mailto:noeville...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello all,

I just upgraded cell phones, and I can’t figure out how to reinstate my cash 
app subscription.  I bought the lifetime version, but when I go to settings, 
and try to restore the subscription, nothing happens.

I’d appreciate any suggestions, as I found out that eye note does not read with 
I O S 14.5.1.

Noe


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RE: Question about multiple Bluetooth devices

[Johna Gravitt]

Thank you


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 9:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about multiple Bluetooth devices

I have a bluetooth keyboard, bluetooth braille display, bluetooth headphones, 
and a bluetooth meat thermometer, and a bluetooth room thermometer, all working 
at the same time.


Richard
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I connect my keyboard and an ear piece simultaneously with no problem.
At 07:13 AM 5/14/2021, you wrote:


Hello,

I have an iPhone 8 and use a Bluetooth headset with it all of the time, what 
I’m wondering is can I also connect a Bluetooth keyboard to it or will it only 
support one connection at a time?

Thanks,

Johna





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Re: Question about multiple Bluetooth devices

[Richard Turner]

I have a bluetooth keyboard, bluetooth braille display, bluetooth headphones, 
and a bluetooth meat thermometer, and a bluetooth room thermometer, all working 
at the same time.



Richard
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On May 14, 2021, at 5:40 AM, Ann Byrne  wrote:

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Thanks,

Johna





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Re: Absolutely horrendous iPhone SE Second Generation Problem

[Gerardo Corripio]

I don’t know if it’s the same thing that happened to me last week with mine? I 
was on Speaker hone, and suddenly I heard this buzzing sound! I thought there 
for a few milliseconds that the internal speaker had gone bad! But the weird 
thing was, when I connected the wired Earpods voiceover and the sounds were 
heard normal! So I was on the verge of rebooting the phone, when upon a few 
disconnects and connecting the Earpods, the SE 2nd, went back to normal! The 
internal speaker worked again! Nevertheless I rebooted the phone just to be on 
the same side, and fortunately, this hasn’t hapened again! Upon Googling, I see 
this problem happened on some models of iPhone 7? Do you guys remember or 
experienced this?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 14 may 2021, a la(s) 1:36 a.m., 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>  escribió:
> 
> 
> I too had this problem and tried turning off image recognition and so on but 
> the only thing that worked was to reset all settings. A right royal pain but 
> it got rid of that dratted sound on my SE second generation!
> Harry 
> 
>>> On 14 May 2021, at 05:34, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>  It sounds like you could have turned on the new, useless, screen 
>> recongnition and/or describe images.
>> Or, you got braille screen input on.
>> I doubt it has to do with Voice Control; but who knows.
>> I'm not sure what the chirping sound is but it sounds like something being 
>> eneabled or disabled.
>> Best of luck.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard 
>> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds 
>> discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>>> On May 13, 2021, at 9:26 PM, Christine Grassman  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good day all:
>>> As the subject indicates, I have an iPHone SE Second Generation, running 
>>> the latest software, that up until several hours ago, was absolutely fine.
>>> Suddenly, as I was changing my display name in my Zoom app, a bizarre 
>>> chirping noise sounded, followed several seconds later by the same sound.  
>>> Seemingly simultaneously, I became unable to use dictation or the text 
>>> field to change my name, even though it said “editing”.
>>> I tried in the Safari address bar. Same result.
>>> I rebooted the phone. Same thing.
>>> I called Apple. I was told to go to my Settings and restore settings. When 
>>> it came time to put in my passcode . . . you guess it . . . the same thing 
>>> happened, and I was unable to complete the restore.
>>> So off to my MacBook. (I luckily had a recent iCloud backup. I restored 
>>> settings. Input all the needed information to get to the restore from 
>>> backup process. All went smoothly. I put in a passcode. Tried using an edit 
>>> field in messages and other places. Same weird sound, same inability to 
>>> type, though at the moment dictation is working.
>>> However, this is obviously not sustainable.
>>> Please advise. I suspect this is a Genius Bar appointment, but I don’t even 
>>> know if Apple is having people come to physical stores yet. Has anyone 
>>> heard of this? Is there a fix? A workaround? Thanks.
>>> Christine
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Re: Question about multiple Bluetooth devices

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I connect my keyboard and an ear piece simultaneously with no problem.
At 07:13 AM 5/14/2021, you wrote:


Hello,

I have an iPhone 8 and use a Bluetooth headset 
with it all of the time, what I’m wondering is 
can I also connect a Bluetooth keyboard to it or 
will it only support one connection at a time?


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Question about multiple Bluetooth devices

[Johna Gravitt]

Hello,
I have an iPhone 8 and use a Bluetooth headset with it all of the time, what 
I'm wondering is can I also connect a Bluetooth keyboard to it or will it only 
support one connection at a time?
Thanks,
Johna


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RE: Absolutely horrendous iPhone SE Second Generation Problem

[Christopher Chaltain]

Just an aside, but I don’t find screen recognition or describe images useless. 
Lots of times it’s just interesting to see what sighted people see or what my 
phone looks like, but it’s also been helpful in a few situations. I agree that 
it’s nice it’s a toggle so people can turn it off, and I get that some people 
won’t like it, but I wouldn’t call it useless even if I didn’t use it.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
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Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 11:34 PM
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Subject: Re: Absolutely horrendous iPhone SE Second Generation Problem

It sounds like you could have turned on the new, useless, screen recongnition 
and/or describe images.
Or, you got braille screen input on.
I doubt it has to do with Voice Control; but who knows.
I'm not sure what the chirping sound is but it sounds like something being 
eneabled or disabled.
Best of luck.


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On May 13, 2021, at 9:26 PM, Christine Grassman 
mailto:cgrassman1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Good day all:
As the subject indicates, I have an iPHone SE Second Generation, running the 
latest software, that up until several hours ago, was absolutely fine.
Suddenly, as I was changing my display name in my Zoom app, a bizarre chirping 
noise sounded, followed several seconds later by the same sound.  Seemingly 
simultaneously, I became unable to use dictation or the text field to change my 
name, even though it said “editing”.
I tried in the Safari address bar. Same result.
I rebooted the phone. Same thing.
I called Apple. I was told to go to my Settings and restore settings. When it 
came time to put in my passcode . . . you guess it . . . the same thing 
happened, and I was unable to complete the restore.
So off to my MacBook. (I luckily had a recent iCloud backup. I restored 
settings. Input all the needed information to get to the restore from backup 
process. All went smoothly. I put in a passcode. Tried using an edit field in 
messages and other places. Same weird sound, same inability to type, though at 
the moment dictation is working.
However, this is obviously not sustainable.
Please advise. I suspect this is a Genius Bar appointment, but I don’t even 
know if Apple is having people come to physical stores yet. Has anyone heard of 
this? Is there a fix? A workaround? Thanks.
Christine

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RE: iPhone 12 pro an hotspot

[Robbie Miller]

Hi, I have talked with A T  tech support, and apple tech support, neither can 
figure out why my 12 pro is not broadcasting its Wi-Fi signal. 
Perhaps it’s the phone?

Thanks,

Robbie


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Subject: Re: iPhone 12 pro an hotspot

Hello,
When you are trying to broadcast to other devices, are you trying to do this 
over wifi? If so, wifi needs to still be enabled in settings in order to 
broadcast to the device.
Also, I would confirm that Hotspot is a feature that your carrier plan supports.

On 5/13/21, Robbie Miller  wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I have an iPhone 12 Pro, and after turning on my hotspot, I can't get 
> my hotspot to broadcast to other devices.
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
> Can anyone give me instructions on how to turn on my hotspot . I want 
> to connect my laptop to my hotspot.
>
> Voiceover says its on, but my laptop does not see it.
>
>
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
>
>
> Robbie
>
>
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Re: Absolutely horrendous iPhone SE Second Generation Problem

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

I too had this problem and tried turning off image recognition and so on but 
the only thing that worked was to reset all settings. A right royal pain but it 
got rid of that dratted sound on my SE second generation!
Harry 

> On 14 May 2021, at 05:34, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
>  It sounds like you could have turned on the new, useless, screen 
> recongnition and/or describe images.
> Or, you got braille screen input on.
> I doubt it has to do with Voice Control; but who knows.
> I'm not sure what the chirping sound is but it sounds like something being 
> eneabled or disabled.
> Best of luck.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
> 
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> 
> 
>>> On May 13, 2021, at 9:26 PM, Christine Grassman  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> Good day all:
>> As the subject indicates, I have an iPHone SE Second Generation, running the 
>> latest software, that up until several hours ago, was absolutely fine.
>> Suddenly, as I was changing my display name in my Zoom app, a bizarre 
>> chirping noise sounded, followed several seconds later by the same sound.  
>> Seemingly simultaneously, I became unable to use dictation or the text field 
>> to change my name, even though it said “editing”.
>> I tried in the Safari address bar. Same result.
>> I rebooted the phone. Same thing.
>> I called Apple. I was told to go to my Settings and restore settings. When 
>> it came time to put in my passcode . . . you guess it . . . the same thing 
>> happened, and I was unable to complete the restore.
>> So off to my MacBook. (I luckily had a recent iCloud backup. I restored 
>> settings. Input all the needed information to get to the restore from backup 
>> process. All went smoothly. I put in a passcode. Tried using an edit field 
>> in messages and other places. Same weird sound, same inability to type, 
>> though at the moment dictation is working.
>> However, this is obviously not sustainable.
>> Please advise. I suspect this is a Genius Bar appointment, but I don’t even 
>> know if Apple is having people come to physical stores yet. Has anyone heard 
>> of this? Is there a fix? A workaround? Thanks.
>> Christine
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Re: Apple Podcasts less accessible since major update

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

Also, if you flick right from Listen Now, Up Next, See all and double tap, you 
are in a list of recent episodes but as you flick right, the names of the 
podcasts are not voiced, just the episode titles. Also, some of these episodes 
date from days or weeks ago. I have written to Apple!
Harry

> On 14 May 2021, at 01:07, Marcia Yale  wrote:
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> Hello, everyone. If you use the above app and have noticed that flicking
> through episodes is much less stable lately, please let Apple Accessibility
> know. The more of us who show them the fact that VoiceOver jumps all over
> the place when you flick through a list of episodes, the sooner they might
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