Re: Siri

[Paras]

Yes, the quality of ciri has gone down drastically.
I usually use braille screen input to type my messages.
Ciri needs to get way better.


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> On Jun 9, 2016, at 11:55 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> 
> One big problem with Siri which needs to be addressed is it cannot
> infrer context. For instance, if I ask Siri if it will rain today, I
> get the answer that I wanted. If I then say, "How about tomorrow,"
> Siri does not know what I am talking about. I haven't done extensive
> testing on this, but there have been times when context has come up in
> my chats with Siri. I am gradually using Siri more, though I am still
> used to doing things on the phone manually. I think if Siri's ability
> to understand context, compound sentences/requests, and other
> conversation things that we use everyday were to be improved, then
> Siri could equal other tools like Alexa in its usefulness.
> 
> Wayne
> 
>> On 6/9/16, Keith B.  wrote:
>> Sorry about the previous blank message. I usually use Siri either to get
>> the weather or when I'm on the move and need to schedule an appointment or
>> send a text. I have noticed a deterioration since IOS 9 came out. For
>> example, I will attempt to schedule an appointment at 4:45, and Siri will
>> insist on scheduling it for 4:00. I am trying to be patient, but this is
>> beginning to be a problem. I usually only do this when I'm on the move, as
>> stopping to use the Braille or onscreen keyboard is not convenient at those
>> 
>> times. I ope this improves in IOS 10.
>> 
>>> On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 8:28:31 AM UTC-5, Keith B. wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 7:31:16 AM UTC-5, alanand...@earthlink.net
>>> wrote:
 
 I use Siri to post a message on my facebook time line when I don't need
 to open FB.  I just say to Siri, post to facebook.  She'll ask me what I
 
 want to say on my time line.  I'll dictate the text of what I want to say
 
 including saying period at the end of a sentense and use the voice
 enflection to indicate the end of the sentence.  To many people just
 dictate with out using voice enflection and saying period or coma where
 needed.  With a bit of practice, you be a pro at it in no time.
 
 
 Alan
 
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> On Jun 8, 2016, at 6:25 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> I agree. I *never* use Siri for much. I usually just set alarms and the
> 
> time. Otherwise, I just pull out the phone and do whatever needs
> done. Siri isn't yet accurate enough for texting and emailing for me.
> "Marie"  writes:
> 
>> I am probably going to be unpopular when I say this but...
>> Are we wanting to depend too much on the personal assistants these
>> days. It seems that some want them to do everything for them instead
>> of keeping our skills up by doing some things on our own? I am happy
>> to use dictation when I want to whip up a text message without taking
>> 
>> too long but if I need further communication, either the phone or
>> email is much better and I do it without any personal assistant
>> intervening.
>> Tools which make our life easier are fine but I think there is a limit
>> 
>> to what they need to do. JMT
>> Marie
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Alan Paganelli
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 6:53 AM
>> To: vip...@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Siri
>> 
>> As I understand it, in iOS 10, Siri gets greatly improved and you
>> should be able to talk to her just like talking to a neighbor or
>> friend.  Personally, I'm just waiting to see that for myself.  I do
>> know this though.  Sooner or later it will happen.
>> 
>> Alan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad Air
>> 
>>> On Jun 6, 2016, at 8:26 AM, Deidre Muccio
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Can someone explain the difference between series recognition of a
>>> question and a search engine like you to who you can speak naturally
>>> 
>>> two, ask a question with very loose language and it comes up with
>>> very accurate results?
>>> 
>>> Deidre
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Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[paras shah]

Yes, braille screen input is a great feature. There are some places where
it does not work. If you are in a multi-line edit field it will not let you
go to the next line. For the most part, I use it as my input method.
It is great for writing short emails.
Thanks!
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 7:26 PM Jennie Facer  wrote:

> I use it on a daily basis. The only problem I find when using it is in
> iMessages. Whenever I tilt the phone to go into away mode, it thinks I want
> to record a message. Any thoughts on how to get rid of this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jennie Facer
>
> > On Jan 24, 2016, at 4:35 PM, Kevin Chao  wrote:
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> > Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in which
> mode/orientation (screen away or table top)?
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Re: Surprising excess ability glitch in iBooks on the iPad

[Paras]

Hi,
All of these issues should be fixed in IOS 9, so just wait for IOS 9. 

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 On Aug 29, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I hope those of you who use iPads will join me in writing accessibility about 
 the following problem, or tell me what I am missing. Usually, when I go 
 through the featured books on iBooks, I do it on the phone. But last night I 
 had occasion to use my iPad mini. When I clicked on the browse by categories 
 listing, I was met with a page of button, button, button, and not one of them 
 was labeled. I was, frankly, surprised. If you can repeat this problem, 
 please write to accessibility at Apple.  the more that do the faster they'll 
 fix it
 
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Re: Backing up a voice dream library

[Paras]

Hi all,
Suppose you have a voice dream file in voice dream, can you open the voice 
dream file in another app using the open in function?
Idon't see this.
Thanks 

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 On Apr 22, 2015, at 11:24 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 There's an update to iTunes--version 12--and you may need that for things to 
 work. As to updating iOS, you can update to 8.3 without wiping your device. 
 If it's the chance of something going wrong you're worried about, you can 
 always do a full device backup or an iCloud backup. I can't offer much more 
 as I almost never use iTunes these days, and the last time I did a VDR backup 
 with iTunes was back in the fall. I'm not sure which version I had back then, 
 either of iTunes or iOS.
 On Apr 22, 2015, at 12:40 AM, Gmail englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm running I was 8.2. I don't want to update to 8.3 until I get this 
 library backed up. I have quite a lot of files in the library, as well as 
 bookmarks, so I'd like to keep them intact.
 
 
 Thanks,
 Ari 
 
 
 On Apr 21, 2015, at 9:25 PM, Alan Lemly wale...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ari,
  
 I'm also using iTunes 11.4.x with an iPhone 6 running iOS 8.3 so I'd be 
 curious whether it's the iTunes or IOS versions causing the issue. My money 
 is on the IOS version.
  
 Alan Lemly
  
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Gmail
 Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 11:13 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Backing up a voice dream library
  
 Alan, I'm having the exact same problem you are. I am using iTunes 11. I 
 know that I'm doing the process correctly, as I did the file sharing 
 transfer with another app, VLC for iOS, and everything went smoothly. I 
 managed to transfer the library once when I was using iOS 7, and that went 
 perfectly! For some reason, though, things aren't working this time when 
 I'm running iOS 8. I tried to contact Winston, but he hasn't gotten back to 
 me as of yet, which is odd, because I contacted him once before, and he was 
 very quick at responding.
  
  
 Thanks,
 Ari
 
 
 On Apr 21, 2015, at 8:54 PM, Alan Lemly wale...@gmail.com wrote:
 Alex,
  
 Thanks for the clarification. I was sort of surprised that even if I 
 couldn't open the SQLite database after doing a Voice Dream file library 
 transfer using iTunes, that nothing showed up in Windows Explorer in the 
 folder I selected to which to copy it. Maybe I didn't give iTunes enough 
 time but I wasn't even hearing any disk activity after initiating the 
 transfer.
  
 Alan Lemly
  
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Alex Hall
 Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 8:09 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Backing up a voice dream library
  
 I've used the iTunes method before, and found it to work. It's an SQLite 
 database, not a collection of files, so your computer probably won't be 
 able to open it. VDR will back up to iCloud in the course of a normal 
 automatic backup, though, so you have that assurance if you use iCloud.
 On Apr 21, 2015, at 8:42 PM, Alan Lemly wale...@gmail.com wrote:
  
 Mary,
 
 I'm not sure this is possible if what you're wanting is to back up the 
 files
 residing on your iPad in the Voice Dream library to your computer. 
 Normally,
 if you want to transfer files on your iDevice to your computer, you have 
 to
 use iTunes to do this with the File Sharing section of the Apps tab.
 
 I just connected my iPhone 6 to my computer, opened iTunes, navigated to
 Voice Dream in the File Sharing section of Apps, placed focus on the Voice
 Dream library which is the only thing shown in the files listed as being 
 on
 Voice Dream, selected the Save To button, and navigated to a folder called
 Voice Dream on my external hard drive that I set up to hold these files.
 Even though I have many items in my Voice Dream library on my iPhone,
 nothing was shown in the Voice Dream folder on my computer when I 
 completed
 this process. I also find it odd that I was unable to drill down into the
 Voice Dream library folder shown in the file sharing section of iTunes.
 
 This leads me to believe that you cannot transfer content from your Voice
 Dream library on your iDevice to your computer with iTunes. On the other
 hand, you could make sure that whenever you transfer content into Voice
 Dream using the app that you go through a cloud-based service such as
 Dropbox. That way, the files are backed up to the cloud and you could also
 access your Dropbox folder using your computer to copy them to another
 location on your computer for backup purposes.
 
 I'm sort of trial and erroring here so I welcome comments from others who
 know a lot more about Voice Dream than I do.
 
 Alan Lemly
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Mary Otten
 Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 7:17 PM
 To: 

Re: Apple Watch and accessibility

[Paras]

hi,
What is tim cook's email?
Thanks

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 On Apr 8, 2015, at 8:57 PM, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:
 
 It will be interesting to see if it will work at all with third-party apps 
 like Uber, Trivia Crack, etc.
  
 - Original Message -
 From: Peter Logan
 To: Vi Phone
 Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 8:55 PM
 Subject: Apple Watch and accessibility
 
 After sending a note to Tim Cook asking about the accessibility of the Apple 
 Watch ... here is the answer I got from Phil Schiller.  I appreciate that 
 they got back to me, and in a very timely manner.
  
 Peter, 
 
 Thank you for your question about Apple Watch Accessibility. 
 Yes, we do have support in Apple Watch for accessibility, that information 
 will be posted on apple.com shortly. 
 
 Below are the marketing descriptions of the Accessibility features for Apple 
 Watch. 
 
 Phil 
 
 ——— 
 
 VoiceOver 
 VoiceOver is a gesture-based screen reader that uses the speaker on Apple 
 Watch. It tells you everything that’s happening on the screen and helps you 
 navigate it — even if you can’t see it. VoiceOver on Apple Watch is 
 compatible with built-in apps and is available in all 14 supported languages. 
 
 Font Adjustment 
 Activate Larger Dynamic Type to increase the text size for a range of Apple 
 Watch apps, including Mail, Messages, and Settings — and even some 
 third-party apps — to make it easier to read. You can also choose Bold Text 
 to make the text heavier across built-in apps. 
 
 Zoom 
 With Apple Watch, it’s easy to zoom in on your content by using the Digital 
 Crown to move across the screen by rows. With magnification up to 15 times 
 the native size, Zoom helps you enjoy all that Apple Watch has to offer. 
 
 Grayscale 
 If your vision is impaired by color, Apple Watch lets you enable grayscale 
 onscreen. Once you set the filter, the settings apply systemwide, so you’ll 
 see only shades of gray on the Home screen, apps, and more. 
 
 Extra Large Watch Face 
 Apple Watch has many different faces that you can change and customize. One 
 of them is an extra large watch face — with numbers that take up the entire 
 screen — that makes it easier to view the time. 
 
 Reduce Transparency 
 For features like alerts, Siri, and Glances, you can increase the contrast on 
 your Apple Watch screen by reducing the background transparency. 
 
 On/Off Labels
 To make it easier to see whether a setting is on or off, you can have Apple 
 Watch show an additional label on the on/off switch. 
 
 Reduce Motion 
 When you turn on Reduce Motion, 
 ﰆﰉﰃﰚﰅﰉﰋﰏﰅﰔﰃﰦﰏﰔﰏﰁﰉﰅﰃﰡﰅﰆﰃﰔﰏﰅﰆﰊﰛﰏﰏﰁﰅﰏﰌﰏﰔﰏﰁﰉﰆﰜﰅﰡﰃﰛﰅﰏﰞﰍﰔﰚﰌﰏﰜﰅﰉﰋﰏﰅﰚﰍﰛﰍﰌﰌﰍﰞﰅﰏﰄﰏﰊﰉﰅﰃﰡﰅﰈﰊﰃﰁﰆﰆﰉﰃﰚﰅﰉﰋﰏﰅﰔﰃﰦﰏﰔﰏﰁﰉﰅﰃﰡﰅﰆﰃﰔﰏﰅﰆﰊﰛﰏﰏﰁﰅﰏﰌﰏﰔﰏﰁﰉﰆﰜﰅﰡﰃﰛﰅﰏﰞﰍﰔﰚﰌﰏﰜﰅﰉﰋﰏﰅﰚﰍﰛﰍﰌﰌﰍﰞﰅﰏﰄﰏﰊﰉﰅﰃﰡﰅﰈﰊﰃﰁﰆﰆﰉﰃﰚﰅﰉﰋﰏﰅﰔﰃﰦﰏﰔﰏﰁﰉﰅﰃﰡﰅﰆﰃﰔﰏﰅﰆﰊﰛﰏﰏﰁﰅﰏﰌﰏﰔﰏﰁﰉﰆﰜﰅﰡﰃﰛﰅﰏﰞﰍﰔﰚﰌﰏﰜﰅﰉﰋﰏﰅﰚﰍﰛﰍﰌﰌﰍﰞﰅﰏﰄﰏﰊﰉﰅﰃﰡﰅﰈﰊﰃﰁﰆsome
  screen elements no longer move. For example, the movement of icons on the 
 Home screen will be simpler and more directly associated with your navigation 
 gestures. 
 
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Re: Amazon app update

[Paras]

hi,
What Email address did you use for the feedback?
You got some great feedback.
Thanks 

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 On Mar 24, 2015, at 5:15 AM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:
 
 The Amazon update is in the App Store. It says: Bug fixes
 VoiceOver support restored.
 It works fine again with VoiceOver.
 Richard
 
 
 
 
 
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Mid 2013 MacBook air for sale good condition

[Paras]

Hi
I have the mac book air mid 2013 for sale.
It is in verry good condition. Includes 128 gb memory, 4 gb ram, 12 hours 
battery and latest mac OS.
The computer is in verry good condition.
Asking 700 dollars, but I can talk on price.
I accept pay Paypal.
Please contact me at 630-965-4386
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Re: moderator message about buy/sell/trade - Re: Mid 2013 MacBook air for sale good condition

[Paras]

Hi,
Sorry about this, but do I have your permission to keep this post from my item?
Thank you

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 On Oct 20, 2014, at 2:38 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote:
 
 Hello all. This is a reminder that the purpose of this list is for a general 
 discussions of iOS products. Posting your Apple products to sell needs to be 
 cleared by moderator first. Thank you.
 
 On Oct 20, 2014, at 2:00 PM, Paras parasha...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi
 I have the mac book air mid 2013 for sale.
 It is in verry good condition. Includes 128 gb memory, 4 gb ram, 12 hours 
 battery and latest mac OS.
 The computer is in verry good condition.
 Asking 700 dollars, but I can talk on price.
 I accept pay Paypal.
 Please contact me at 630-965-4386
 Thanks  
 
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Re: New Hangouts update

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The only issues I have is setting a status and setting a mood. Besides
that, very accessible.

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 Hello list,



 I'm headed out the door, but thought I'd drop this quick note. I just
 downloaded the new Hangouts update and at first glance, it seems to be
 pretty accessible. At least way more than the previous two updates.



 Anyway, I'll play with it a bit more, but figured I'd let others know and
 if
 they can give it a spin to see their impressions.





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Need help finding an application

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Hi,
I cannot find the ubidisk client for the PC.
I think they took the website down.
Please put it on dropbox or email it to me?
This is the client for the PC, I have the app.
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Re: Need help finding an application

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thanks a lot, I appreciate it.

On 4/5/14, Rob musicmaker...@gmail.com wrote:
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/pam7lprjvcli2mn/Ubidiskeasypushsetup.exe


 Sent from my iPhone

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 I cannot find the ubidisk client for the PC.
 I think they took the website down.
 Please put it on dropbox or email it to me?
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Re: Question for my iPhone or iPad

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Can you please send me the link on amazon with exact model. I can not
find the exact model. I want to make sure I am buying the rite thing.
Thanks

On 12/28/13, Jennie Facer jennie.fa...@gmail.com wrote:
 I also love this keyboard.
 Jen

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 On Dec 27, 2013, at 7:44 PM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote:

 The Logitech A-10 keyboard is an excellent option. This keyboard will all
 you two pair up to three devices and you can switch among them. You can
 get it from Amazon.com or from Logitech.com.

 Sent from my iPhone

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 I'm looking for a good keyboard that can pair two or more devices
 simultaneously.
 What keyboard would you recommend.
 Is the Amazon basic keyboard good?
 What are your thoughts?
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Question for my iPhone or iPad

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Hi,
I'm looking for a good keyboard that can pair two or more devices 
simultaneously.
What keyboard would you recommend.
Is the Amazon basic keyboard good?
What are your thoughts?
Thank you

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Re: VoiceOver reporting Phone Is Locked twice

[paras shah]

Yes, same hear.
Voice over reports phone is lock twice.


On 10/22/13, Troy Sullivan troysulliva...@gmail.com wrote:
 Since upgrading to 7.03 I've noticed it will say screen locked twice.
 - Original Message -
 From: Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 8:37 PM
 Subject: Re: VoiceOver reporting Phone Is Locked twice


 Well, I've noticed it before, but here's the odd thing. To my knowledge,
 it only happens when I'm using headphones. Unless I'm missing it, I never

 hear the double message if no headphones are plugged in, and even then it

 only happens sometimes.
 On Oct 22, 2013, at 8:34 PM, AnonyMouse anonymo...@themickeyhouse.com

 wrote:

 Hello Everyone,

 Actually, this has been there since the iOS 7 Beta phase. A number of
 people
 have reported ever since the release of the iOS 7.0. This is unfortunate

 for
 those that haven't had this issue until now. Yes, I agree it is quite
 annoying.

 Be sure to report this to the Apple Accessibility Team so this can be
 fixed.
 I have already reported it but the more people report this the more
 likely
 it will not be push to the bottom of the stack to fix.

 Regards,
 AnonyMouse


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 Subject: Re: VoiceOver reporting Phone Is locked twice

 Hi, I'm also seeing this on my iPhone 5s with 7.03.  I don't recall
 hearing
 this at all before this version.



 Best Regards,

 Rick alfaro

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 Hi Everyone,
 Perhaps I'm late to this party but I've never noticed this behavior
 Before iOS 7.0.3.  Now when I lock my iPhone 5s VoiceOver reports
 That the device is locked just after the locking sound is heard but
 then
 it feels the need to reiterate it to me some 9 seconds later.  Has
 anyone else seen this behavior now or in previous iOS versions and I've
 just missed it?  Might anyone have a clue why Apple would feel the need
 to have VoiceOver report it two times in this manner?  Thanks for any
 light anyone could shed on this for me.
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Re: Two finger double tap now not controlling media playback since iOS7.02

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This was an issue for me.
Try to restart the phone.
It will work


On 9/27/13, Robin Christopherson robin.christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 Guys

 I’ve been expecting to see someone flag this since 7.02 came out but maybe
 it’s just me. Since updating to 7.02 my two finger double tap to start/stop
 playback from the home screen and in every app has gone. I can do it from
 the remote and also using the controls on-screen in the relevant app but no
 two finger double tap (sob). Anyone else experiencing this?

 Thanks, Robin.

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Re: Dice World

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You have the fingerprint sensor.
You also have the iPhone 5 S.
What do you think of the speaker?
Some people have told me that they hear distortion when speaker is turned up to 
full wall volume.
So, do you hear any distortion?


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 Hello all,
 I have not yet updated to iOS 7, but noticed that there was a new update to 
 Dice World yesterday.
 I was just wondering if the problems that people were experiencing with Dice 
 World in iOS 7 have been fixed with this latest update.
 
 Thanks,
 Chris Chaffin 
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iphone 5s speaker distortion

[paras shah]

As some of you may know, some people are having speaker distortion on
the iPhone 5s and 5c.
Have any of you  had the distortion?
This occurs when the speaker is turned up to full volume or when
playing a song at full volume.
Voice over is distorted.
I am asking because I am considering a iPhone 5s.
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Re: iOS 7: Braille feature enhancements and caviots

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hi what is the memoth code in braille  setting.
Can you read  all computer braille math in memoth?
Thanks

On 9/18/13, Joseph Lee joseph.lee22...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,
 For braille display users and braille fans: We have a number of
 feature enhancements for braille entry and output, including:
 * You may need to pair with your wireless device again (at least
 this happened when I was trying to use my Apex, and iOS asked for
 the passcode).
 * By default, English braille will be in UEB.  You can change
 this from VoiceOver's braille settings screen - there is a second
 screen which shows available braille tables (for English, these
 are Unified, US and UK).
 * If you disable automatic braille translation, you wouldn't see
 what you're typing in braille on the braille display until you
 press spacebar key.
 * A famous implementation (more towards a time-out) issue where
 VoiceOver would insert contractions while typing in the middle of
 a word has been fixed.  For example, if I type te, pause then
 type st sign (dots 3-4), before it would insert still; in iOS
 7, it types st.
 * I can verify Scott's note that select all command doesn't work
 anymore.
 Thanks.
 Cheers,
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Re: phone clean

[Paras]

Hi,
I try this app also.
Same results here.
I have sent an email to them and I will let you know what they say.


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 Hey, all,
 Sorry, It was my post which suggested in prepare for IOS 7 email.  I
 didn't try that, but I mean, as long as you have the backup, you
 should be fine, according to most people.  Thanks!
 
 
 On 9/15/13, Mich mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:
 Hi I know what you meen I didn't find it accessible eather. i had the same
 expearince using it as you did. from Mich.
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  Subject: phone clean
 
 
  Someone posted about using phone clean with windows, I just tried it and
 it's not accessible, the start scan button is labled, however the check
 boxes are not and I can't get it to tell me anything not even with the jaws
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apple tv update

[paras shah]

Hi,
The latest apple tv update added Disney channel.
Can we access audio discriptions yet on it yet?
I am asking because Disney is one of the channels that has audio discriptions.
Thanks

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Re: vlc for IOS is back

[paras shah]

I can not get drop box to connect.
How do you connect drop box to v l c

On 7/20/13, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 Just an FYI, but I was able to find VLC in the App Store late yesterday.
 Noe that I don't think I searched for it any differently than I did
 earlier in the day when I couldn't find it. The link below still gives
 me the message that the app doesn't exist in the App Store. Curiously
 enough, the link I got from the App Store
 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/vlc-for-ios/id650377962?mt=8ls=1 also
 gives me this error message, so there may be something going on with my
 phone.

 In case anyone else is having any trouble finding this app, I just
 searched on VLC. I used all lower case. The app is called VLC for IOS
 and it's by VideoLAN.

 On 07/19/2013 07:42 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
 Just as with the URL I posted earlier, I'm getting a message that this
 app is not available in the US store. I'm also still not seeing it when
 I search for it in the App Store. I'm sure it's just a matter of time
 though.

 On 07/19/2013 07:32 PM, Esther wrote:
   Hi Thom,

 Try this direct link to the VLC app:
 https://itunes.apple.com/app/id650377962

 Shortened links, and others that involve redirecting you to another
 web page are probably getting hammered and timing out.  This app is in
 the U.S.App Store. I checked it just now, and I also picked it up some
 hours before Kliphton's posts.  However, even then, it was difficult
 to connect if you weren't using a direct link.  (I mean a link of the
 form with itunes.apple.com/app/ followed by a full id number -- not
 shortened and with letters in place of some of the ID numbers as is
 the case in the link Kliph gave.  That might work for you if there are
 fewer people using the shortened link.

 HTH.  Cheers,

 Esther


 On Friday, July 19, 2013 1:59:50 PM UTC-10, Thom3of5 wrote:
 I
 tried the link and got a 404 not found.



 Thom




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 that is not correct.  I downloaded it with the link I provided in
the previous message.  It's on my phone and iPod working just fine.
 HTH
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wrote:





 Hi all, the VLC app is not available in the app store in the US. If
 this
comes true twice it is because I was told that the message could
 not be sent
so I am trying again. God bless, Ren

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 After a to year absents, VLC for IOS is back.  Even has drop box
  and air play support.  Down load and read about it here



 VLC for iOS by VideoLAN

 https://itun.es/us/QR_WM.i



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Re: [vi-kindle] New Accessibility Features to Free Kindle Reading iOS Apps

[paras shah]

How can I add bookmarks. It seems not to work.

On 5/1/13, Kevin Barry krba...@gmail.com wrote:
 easier than ever By that I presume they mean possible.
 Amazon has been dragging its knuckles for so long on this I'm not
 exactly bubbling over with good feelings.

 At 02:17 PM 5/1/2013, you wrote:
Hi: I installed and tested the Kindle app. I am excited and shocked to
say it works.

On 5/1/13, Rick Alfaro rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:
  FYI, amazing news, totally unexpected.
 
 
 
  Best,
 
  Rick alfaro
 
 
   Original Message 
  Subject: [vi-kindle] New Accessibility Features to Free Kindle Reading
  iOS Apps
  Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 07:53:46 -0700
  From: Russ Kiehne russ94...@gmail.com
  Reply-To: vi-kin...@freelists.org
  To: Vi-Kindle vi-kin...@freelists.org
 
  New Accessibility Features to Free Kindle Reading iOS Apps
  May 1, 2013 6:06:07 AM PDT
  Kevin G. - Community Manager
  says:
  (AMAZON OFFICIAL)
  Today we announced new accessibility features for the Kindle reading
  app,
  making
  it easier than ever for blind and visually impaired customers to
  navigate
  their Kindle
  libraries, read and interact with their books, and more.  These new
  features
  are
  available starting today on Kindle for iOS, and accessibility
  enhancements
  will be
  available on additional platforms in the future.
  New accessibility features of the Kindle app enable blind and visually
  impaired customers
  to:
  -Read aloud over 1.5 million titles available in the Kindle Store
  using
  Apple's
  VoiceOver technology. Over 300,000 of these books are exclusive to the
  Kindle Store.
  Over 700,000 books are less than $4.99; over a million are less than
  $9.99.
  -Seamlessly navigate within their library or within a book, with
  consistent title,
  menu and button names; navigate to a specific page within a book and
  sort
  books in
  the library by author or title.
  -Read character-by-character, word-by-word, line-by-line, or
  continuously, as well
  as move forward or backward in the text.
  -Search for a book within their library or search within their book
  and
  navigate
  to specific text.
  -Add and delete notes, bookmarks, and highlights.
  -Use customer-favorite features like X-Ray, End Actions and sharing
  on
  Facebook
  and Twitter.
  -Look up words in the dictionary and Wikipedia.
  -Customize the reading experience including changing the font, text
  size, background
  color, margin, and brightness.
  -Use iOS accessibility features like Zoom, Assistive Touch, and
  Stereo
  to Mono,
  as well as peripheral braille displays.
  Other new features include:
  -Easily rate and review books by accessing `Before you go...'
  directly
  from The
  `Go to' menu
  -Enhancements to `Before you go...' including the ability to
  download a
  free sample
  and email yourself a reminder about recommended books.
  -Additional Font Selection for Japan - Hiragino Mincho ProN (Serif)
  These new accessibility features are available first on the Kindle app
  for
  iOS and
  accessibility features will be added to other Kindle apps in the
  future.
  Customers
  can download the new Kindle for iOS app for free from the App Store on
  iPad,
  iPhone
  or iPod touch or at http://www.itunes.com/appstore.  Blind and visually
  impaired
  customers interested in using a Kindle app can also choose Kindle for
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  Plugin, a free application for Windows PC's.
  You can download a quick reference guide here:
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Re: the inquisitor game

[paras shah]

Hi, I am trying to do that but some thing else happens.
It opens the inventory instead the book.
do u have to do it quickly?

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 put your finger not he right hand edge and slide to the left away form you

 On 6 Mar 2013, at 02:33, paras shah parasha...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am playing the inquisitor and how do u open the book. I can not figure
 it out.
 Some of the jestures are hard to do.
 I am dragging my fingures but nothing happens.

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the inquisitor game

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I am playing the inquisitor and how do u open the book. I can not figure it out.
Some of the jestures are hard to do.
I am dragging my fingures but nothing happens.

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Re: help with the inquizater audio game.

[paras shah]

How do u interact with the inventory.
Also, how do I saddle the horse.
In the inventory, how do u put the saddle on the horse.

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 Hi will. There really isn't any puzzles to solve. It's just basically
 going around and talking to people and collecting various things. The
 character itself solves any complex puzzles.

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Re: Evasi0n jailbreak - my observations

[paras shah]

how do I backup shsh blobs

On 2/4/13, Cris filasti...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Ah thanks a million Ben.  That motivates me to try.  I was always afraid
 that I may have to try to find some sighted help in the process.

 cheers,

 Cris

 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Mustill-Rose
 Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 2:36 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Evasi0n jailbreak - my observations

 Hi Cris,

 The phone does reboot a few times throughout the process so voiceover
 won't work during the reboots, but just like when you reboot the
 device normally, it comes back up and works perfectly well. In other
 words: the only time you need to use the device voiceover will be
 talking. You can also monitor the progress of the jailbreak through
 the program on your computer.

 Cheers,
 Ben.

 On 2/4/13, Cris filasti...@hotmail.com wrote:
 I have never jail broken any phones.  but I am curious. my question to
 you
 is:  do you lose voiceover in the  jail breaking process? or does
 voiceover

 remain on throughout the entire process?  If you lose voiceover, how can
 you

 restart it to find what you need on the phone screen?



 Cheers,

 Cris


 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Mustill-Rose
 Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 2:24 PM
 To: viphone
 Subject: Evasi0n jailbreak - my observations

 Hi all,

 I've just successfuly jailbroken my 4s; the process took around 3
 minutes and is largely unattended. Note that towards the end of the
 process you will need to unlock the device, find a new icon called
 jailbreak and open it. Whilst your computer will tell you this, I
 found that my screen readers focus wouldn't stay on the message long
 enough for me to read it completely.
 Never the less, it's great to be able to fully use my phone again.

 Cheers,
 Ben.

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Re: BrailleTouch finger placement

[paras shah]

What should be done is no matter where u put your fingures u still
should be able to type the braille letters. The current version is
that your fingures have to be exactly at the correct  position. I had
trouble finding the letter t. thanks

On 2/2/13, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Caleb, perhaps an alternative keyboard should be added.  My experience is,
 if I hold my iPhone higher about face high, my fingers get the correct dots
 most of the time but after awhile, holding the phone that gets tiring.  How
 about using the phone on a table-top with the screen facing up and the
 fingers forming a letter V.  The index fingers of both hands in the bottom
 center of the screen and the remaining fingers forming the rest of the V.
 Perhaps it could be called table top move and the normal way, hand-held.
   - Original Message -
   From: BrailleTouch
   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
   Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 7:40 PM
   Subject: Re: BrailleTouch finger placement


   Hi Rob and everyone,
   I'd like to try a suggestion for finding a good finger placement with
   BrailleTouch for new users and people having trouble with certain
   characters. Please let me know if this is helpful.

   When you open the touchscreen braille keyboard, first try to find the
   four corners of the touchscreen. Let's assume you have not flipped the
   dots in the Settings. First, type dot 1 for the letter A with your left
   index finger. Move your finger toward the corner of the iPhone until you
   find the limits of the touch sensitive area of the screen.  Then type an
   apostrophe with your left ring finger, dot 3. Move this finger toward
   that corner of the iPhone until you find the limits. Now go back and
   forth with the letter A and the apostrophe until you have comfortably
   and reliably located your left hand.

   Next, do the same thing with your right hand. Start with your right
   index finger on dot 4 for the at-sign. Then locate your right ring
   finger on dot 6 for the capital sign. Then check both the at-sign and
   the capital sign back and forth until you've found a good position for
   your right hand.

   I am curious to know if this is helpful for anyone who is new to
   BrailleTouch or anyone who is having trouble getting certain characters
   to work. Please let me know.

   Thanks,
   Caleb
   http://brailletouchapp.com/

   On 2/1/2013 3:04 PM, RobH! wrote:
I think they're about half inch in,  but there's some slack so absolute
accuracy isn't critical;  but can't afford to  stray out of the area.
 I'd
like  our  favourite producer adviser to give some idea of dimensions so
 we
might get a better idea of finger spacing;  I think that could betray
 us.
Can one be too far up or down towards an edge and miss that button?
   
Thanks, RobH.
- Original Message -
From: Regina Alvarado reggie.alvar...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 10:23 PM
Subject: RE: Problems with BRAILLETOUCH
   
   
Sorry Jen, I misspoke.  I am not touching the all caps with my little
 finger
but my ring finger.  I am holding the phone with the screen away from me
 and
my thumbs on top and little fingers holding the bottom in landscape.
 What I
need to know, or perhaps this is just more practice, is how far do I put
 my
Braille key fingers from the sides (top and bottom in portrait) into
 the
screen to be able to touch the dots.  Are they right above the home
 button
on the right and just below the ear slit on the left or are they
 further
into the screen?
Reggie
   
   
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
Of Jennie Facer
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 5:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Problems with BRAILLETOUCH
   
Hi,
   
First of all, you don't hold your phone flat down on the table. Act as
 if
you were going to take a picture of yourself with the back camera.  now,
 put
your palms on each end of the phone.  now rest your fingers vertically
 on
the screen.  dots 1, 2, and 3 are your left. Dots 4, 5, and 6 are your
right. I hope this makes some sense. Your hands have to be at each end
 of
the screen.
   
Write me off list if I can be of more helpp.
   
Jenn
   
Sent from my iPhone
   
   

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Re: Lost VoiceOver After Reset

[paras shah]

The main issue is when u do a reset all setting voice over does not
come on at all. Even if u do a triple click home. U have to turn it on
through I tunes. This is a bug in I o s 6. Please report this, I have
reported it. the more the better.

On 1/23/13, Paul Ferrara paul.ferr...@insightbb.com wrote:
 My wife has had the same issue with an iPhone 4.

 Paul

 From: Jose Lomeli
 Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 12:49 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Lost VoiceOver After Reset

 I have been having the same issue here running iOS 6.01 on an iPod touch 4th
 generation!

 Sent from my iPod

 On Jan 22, 2013, at 9:33 PM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:


   I won't try to define rare or common but it does seem to have happened
 to several people on this list, myself included.  It's been reported I would
 usually try simply turning off and on before I tried reset anyway.

   That being said, I also have noticed some other things happen when people
 thought their phones lost voiceover. This is in no way to claim that it
 doesn't happen at all.

   1. I've seen people tap from a locked screen three times; by this I mean
 that even the slide to unlock wasn't up when they started though of
 course you don't know that by sound when voiceover hasn't been turned on
 yet.
   2. I've seen people think vo hadn't come back on when actually the phone
 hadn't come back on at all. Actually, I've done that one myself so now i'm
 more cautious.

   Again, this is not to say that the no voiceover after reset bug doesn't
 happen. It is just a mention of other things that can also happen and be
 mistaken for losing voiceover.




   --
   Cheryl

   May the words of my mouth
   and the meditation of my heart
   be acceptable to You, Lord,
   my rock and my Redeemer.
   (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)




   On Jan 22, 2013, at 11:07 PM, Tom Lange lang...@gmail.com wrote:


 Hi,
 After reading a recent post to the list last night I was trying to play
 the Escape The House game on my iPhone 4 running IOS 6.01 and I kept getting
 kicked out of the app.  This continued even after clearing the app switcher,
 so, says I, time for a reset, which I did by holding down the sleep/wake
 button and home key at the same time for a few seconds.  When the phone came
 back up, VoiceOver was not running and wouldn't start even after
 triple-clicking the home key. I have some questions.

 First, is this VoiceOver loss situation common among all models of the
 iPhone running IOS 6.01, or is it relatively rare and hard to reproduce?
 Second, if it's fairly common, is Apple planning to do something about
 it?
 Third, instead of doing the reset that I just described, would simply
 powering down the phone and restarting it have been a better idea?
 Lastly, I'd really like to check out the Escape the House game and
 wonder if I should uninstall and reinstall it to resolve the issue of being
 unceremoniously dumped out of the app when trying to get past the first
 screen.

 Thanks in advance.

 Tom


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Re: ubi disc

[paras shah]

yes, u can go to the downloader and coppy a url or type in a web site.
It is just like a mini brouser.

On 12/3/12, Tara Prakash taraprak...@gmail.com wrote:
 So, you can't download files from a website directly such as sendspace?

 - Original Message -
 From: Rob musicmaker...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 5:19 PM
 Subject: Re: ubi disc


 First, lets start with the flash light, it turns your phone into a flash
 light, meaning it uses the camera's flash as a continious light.
 if you have no vision and cant tell if it is on, then your battery will
 run down unless there may be a shutoff timer.
 As for the downloader,
 you can copy a link to a file to download for example, from a text msg or

 an email.
 and paste it in the ubi disk browser address bar, or once in the
 donloader,
 go to the downloads tab there will be a
 button to add tasks from URL.
 this is where you will paste  a link to download a file.



 Subscribe to my PodOmatic podcast  feed
 http://musicmaker365.podomatic.com/rss2.xml
 or visit the podcast page:
 http://musicmaker365.podomatic.com/

 Thanks,
 Rob
 You can leave me a voice mail or fax at
 206-426-3505
 God is good all the time,  All the time God is good

 On 12/3/2012 3:52 PM, Tara Prakash wrote:
 Dear all. In what ways can UBI Disc be used? I see a downloader but not
 sure how does it download the stuff off the Internet. There is a button
 for flashlight, what does it do?
 Thanks for any suggestion.

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interesting apple pattent

[paras shah]

Please read below.
Verry cool.

An Apple patent application discovered on Thursday outlines an
invention that uses metadata from emails, texts and other
communications to determine how a synthesized voice sounds in a
text-to-speech (TTS) system.





Source: USPTO
The filing, titled Voice assignment for text-to-speech output, looks
to create speaker profiles which can change the voice
characteristics of TTS output to match parsed-out metadata like age,
sex, dialect and other variables.

 As noted by the application, many systems exist today to aid the
visually impaired, including the system on Apple's iPhone, however
most TTS engines generate synthesized speech having voice
characteristics of either a male speaker or a female speaker.
Regardless of the gender of the speaker, the same voice is used for
all text-to-speech conversion regardless of the source of the text
being converted. Apple's invention proposes a different solution.

 Instead of hearing the same voice for every message, the invention
obtains metadata directly from the communication or from a secondary
source identified by the directly obtained metadata to create the
most suitable speaker profile.

 According to the patent filing, Providing a speech output that is
associated with a speaker profile allows speaker recognition while
providing a more enjoyable and entertaining experience for the
listener.

An example is provided in which a user receives a message from
Charles Prince, who has an email address of charles.pri...@isp.uk,
regarding a party for Albert. In this case, the system could use the
.uk address as primary metadata. Secondary metadata can be gathered
if a contact card is attached to the message, or if Charles Prince's
information is already in the user's address book.





Metadata samples.
The data from the text and the corresponding metadata are then fed
into a TTS engine, which assigns a speaker profile to convert the text
into speech.

After converting each word and phonetic transcription in the text to
distinct sounds that comprise a given language, the TTS engine then
divides and marks rhythmic sounds like phrases, clauses and sentences.

 In some implementations, speech can be created by piecing together
pre-recorded voice fragments, including sounds, entire words or even
sentences, that are stored on a mobile device or in an off-site
database.

 In other implementations, the TTS engine can include a synthesizer
that incorporates a model of the human vocal tract or other human
voice characteristics to create a synthetic speech output according to
the speaker profile.

One of the most interesting iterations notes that a speaker's voice
can be recorded and analyzed to generate voice data.

 From the patent filing's description:

For example, the speaker's voice can be recorded by a recording
application running on the device or during a telephone call (with
permission). The voice characteristics of the speaker can be obtained
using known voice recognition techniques. In this implementation, a
speaker profile may not be necessary as the speaker's name can be
directly associated with voice data stored in voice database.

As for output, the system may pick the .uk email address to use as
primary metadata, taking contact card information like a birthday to
determine sex and age, to subsequently output a speaker profile
matching an older male with a British accent. Charles Prince's
physical address, phone number, or picture can also be used to
determine a speaker profile. The more metadata available, the more
refined the output.





Flowchart of TTS system.
It is unclear if Apple plans to deploy such a system, however the
company currently has a similar, albeit less advanced, system in place
with Siri. While the feature is limited to certain regions, Siri has
an option to choose dialects like English (United States) or
English (United Kingdom) to recognize incoming voice commands, as
well as provide responses in the selected accent.



Tags:
This article was taken from apple insider.

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Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of Voiceover

[paras shah]

I can confirm this. In i o s 5.1.1 this was not happening. When I beta
tested the i o s 6, i did send this to Apple. Apparently, they did not
have time to fix this. Please send more of your reports to
accessibil...@apple.com

On 10/12/12, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:
 I reset my phone yesterday using both the home and power button, then
 restarted it and had voiceover, it is a $s running IOS 6.


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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of David Chittenden
 Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 1:25 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Should resetting the iPhone in IOS 6 cause loss of VoiceOver

 Yes, as soon as I confirm this is the cause.

 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone

 On 10/10/2012, at 5:56, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote:

 David,

 The one thing you stated that caught my attention is regarding the
 Braille
 display being connected. So, this problem does not occur provided the
 display is not connected? If so, that is something and certainly worth
 reporting to APple.

 On Oct 9, 2012, at 9:17 AM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Scott,

 I have not yet been able to figure out any patterns yet. I managed to
 make it lose VO again by having my braille display connected when I did the
 power home reboot. The most annoying thing is that the rotors are both set
 back to factory defaults each time VO is switched off. Also, triple-click
 home is deactivated, so iTunes is necessary for restarting VO on the
 iPhone.


 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone

 On 10/10/2012, at 0:27, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote:

 David,

 I have to admit that I have not used this reboot procedure more than
 maybe a couple of times, yet I have not encountered this issue. So, is
 there
 any particular pattern to reproducing the problem? FOr example, rebooting
 repeatedly (within a period of time) such as maybe every five minutes for
 10
 times etc.? Perhaps rebooting the phone more than once a week? Also, is
 there any particular app that has caused the condition which necessitated a
 reboot? I am curious if there is in fact some pattern or application that
 may be the cause for the loss of speech etc. when the phone is rebooted
 using this technique.

 On Oct 9, 2012, at 5:27 AM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I have now lost VO one time using this technique out of seven times I
 have used the technique on my iPhone 5. In addition to losing VO, my
 braille
 display would not connect after I started VO with iTunes. Also, VO was set
 to factory defaults. I had to do another power home reboot before the
 braille display drivers would load properly again. This is a fascinating
 little bug.

 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone

 On 09/10/2012, at 22:09, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have to agree I have not lost VO as a result of using this reset
 technique.

 On Oct 9, 2012, at 12:05 AM, Katey Glass katey...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have used holding the power button and home button to reset the
 iPhone and iPad many times and I havne't lost VO ever.  Maybe reset is not
 the proper phrase as we are not technically resetting any settings, but
 rather just clearing out memory cobwebs on the phone or pad.

 At any rate, I have indeed held both power button and home button
 and
 waited 10 seconds an d the device comes back talking.

 Katey

 On Oct 8, 2012, at 9:42 PM, Kathy Blackburn
 kblac...@austin.rr.com wrote:

 I wrote to accessibil...@apple.com and was told that the hard
 re-set, holding down the home and sleep/wake buttons at the same time, does
 indeed result in loss of VoiceOver and does so by design. In order to get
 VoiceOver back, you must either get sighted help or connect the phone to a
 computer and re-enable VoiceOver using iTunes. Moral of story: power off
 only by holding down sleep/wake until the slider appears and then
 double-tap.

 Kathy Blackburn
 kblac...@austin.rr.com
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Re: Television Remote for Visually Impaired

[paras shah]

will this work with dish network.

On 9/30/12, Kevin Barry krba...@gmail.com wrote:
 As most appliances operated by remote control use IR to communicate;
 you'd need some way for an IOS device to transmit IR.
 I personally prefer a networked transmitter that does not attach to
 any IOS device.

 At 04:12 PM 9/30/2012, you wrote:
Hello VIPhone Group

We are building a new television remote for the VI and Blind in
association with the Royal National Institute for the Blind in London.

This remote will be a mobile application for the iPhone and iPad
platforms.  We have just secured a partnership with TiVo and are now
moving ahead with the design.

I'm interested in knowing what features would be the most useful for
the members of this group.

Please tell me what would make the TV controller experience better for
 you.

I'll keep everyone updated on our progress.  Our website will go
live in about a month with me more details.

Look forward to hearing from you.

Lou Auguste

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Re: Television Remote for Visually Impaired

[paras shah]

Hi, my name is Paras, I live in united states. I have dish network,
and would like to be  your tester when  u start on united states
market.

On 9/30/12, Louis-Joseph Auguste lou@gmail.com wrote:
 The talking programming guide is one of our key features.

 On Sunday, 30 September 2012 23:16:11 UTC+1, Robert Fenton wrote:

 One feature I would like to see is the ability of the remote to speak the

 program listings. This would allow us to select a program to watch or
 record independently.

 Bob Fenton

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 2012-09-30, at 2:12 PM, Louis-Joseph Auguste
 lou...@gmail.comjavascript:
 wrote:

 Hello VIPhone Group

 We are building a new television remote for the VI and Blind in
 association with the Royal National Institute for the Blind in London.

 This remote will be a mobile application for the iPhone and iPad
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 moving
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 I'm interested in knowing what features would be the most useful for the
 members of this group.

 Please tell me what would make the TV controller experience better for
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 I'll keep everyone updated on our progress.  Our website will go live in
 about a month with me more details.

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major accessible improvements pushed out to app store

[paras shah]

I just went to the appstore.
There are several improvements.
Now, u can see the number of stars an app has.
When u are searching  for apps and u have more than one result u can
brouse apps via a picker where u swite down with one fingure through
the apps. Great work

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i o s and visually impaired users

[paras shah]

It is verry rare that we get this much atention. This article was
posted by apple insider.
It talks about app store and voice over.
Read the article and read some of the coments.
Great  to see this.
Hit enter on the link below.
Visually impaired users say iOS 6 App Store redesign is a downgrade
http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/09/26/visually-impaired-users-say-ios-6-app-store-redesign-is-a-downgrade

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Re: i o s and visually impaired users

[paras shah]

This is an article from apple insider it is not my view. Also, i think
it is cool the fact that a mainstream source is covering accessibility

On 9/26/12, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 Why do you say the blindness community is all in a huff over the App
 Store? I read the article, and they only refer to one blind person
 complaining about the AppStore. I haven't seen any other complaints
 surrounding the AppStore other than those that existed prior to the
 release of IOS 6. I don't think one person equates to the entire
 blindness community.

 I do agree though that sometimes these companies are damned if they do
 and damned if they don't. If they don't make enough changes then they're
 labeled as stagnant or not being innovative enough. If they make too
 many changes then people complain about having to learn a whole new
 interface.

 On 26/09/12 13:53, Ed Worrell wrote:
 Hello, first off… I don't find the app store any harder to use with
 voiceover. So what Apple moved around some tabs, people will always say
 that they like the old way of doing things, mostly because they are used
 to them. I don't find the app store or iTunes harder to use. Also with the
 way the app store is handled on Apple's end they can make improvements on
 the fly without a huge app update, they can just do it over the server.
 There aren't any big issues with the app store and I am not sure why the
 blind community is all in a huff over it.

 JMO

 Ed
 On Sep 26, 2012, at 10:46 AM, paras shah parasha...@gmail.com wrote:

 It is verry rare that we get this much atention. This article was
 posted by apple insider.
 It talks about app store and voice over.
 Read the article and read some of the coments.
 Great  to see this.
 Hit enter on the link below.
 Visually impaired users say iOS 6 App Store redesign is a downgrade
 http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/09/26/visually-impaired-users-say-ios-6-app-store-redesign-is-a-downgrade

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bug in i o s 6 button labeling

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There is a bug in i o s 6 where button labeling does not works in
certain apps. Can you please confirm that. Just so u no to label a
button u do a 2 fingur double tap  and wait for the three tones. If
this is true, i love the feature and it succs.

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Re: bug in i o s 6 button labeling

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So, if u try to renane a app, it retains the default nane. Am i correct?

On 9/22/12, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes. It is a bug.
 I have several dictionary apps and they all now have the same name.
 I renamed one and now they all have that name.
 I reported it to accessibil...@apple.com
 And I would suggest that you do the same.

 Richard


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 Subject: bug in i o s 6 button labeling

 There is a bug in i o s 6 where button labeling does not works in certain
 apps. Can you please confirm that. Just so u no to label a button u do a 2
 fingur double tap  and wait for the three tones. If this is true, i love
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Re: Passbook

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i get this same errror. It is a noan issue. Manny mainstream blogs has
reported same issue. U are not alone.

On 9/22/12, Nickname unavailable nna...@aol.com wrote:
 Upgraded my iPhone 4S to iOS 6. Cannot get Passbook to work. I select it and
 get a dialog box saying cannot connect to iTunes Store.  I can open the
 iTunes Store, however. Any idea what is wrong?

 Thanks in advance

 Nora

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Re: Fleksy on Android devices

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I would agree, have a version of flexi on a jailbroken iphone with a
default keyboard.

On 8/22/12, Jon Pierson joncpier...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 I too would rather fight than switch given the amount of development being
 done for Apple as opposed to Android. Then there are the security issues
 which have been in the press for the latter of late as well.
 Surveys show that Android users just don't do the kind of things in the
 numbers that we with IOS devices do, including updating to the latest build
 of phone firmware or buying the latest models.
 One of the TodayInIOS podcasts had a great breakdown on these numbers a few
 weeks back.


 Jon


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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Rick Alfaro
 Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 12:00 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Fleksy on Android devices

 This is how I feel as well.  Fleksy on Android as a keyboard default
 wouldn't be enough to cause me to switch from iPhone to Android.  Although
 Android has definitely improved in terms of accessibility, from the reviews
 I've read and the podcasts I've listened to, it still has a long long way
 to
 go before it's comparable to IOS.  I would never consider switching unless
 access was at least the same if not better than my iPhone.  Just my
 thoughts.  Personally, I'm hoping that Apple sees how terrific Fleksy is
 and
 works something out so that it can be used across the OS as a default.  A
 long shot I know, but one can dream.



 Best,



 Rick







 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Mike Maslo
 Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 1:35 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Fleksy on Android devices



 Only consider if android offered same accessibilty

 Sent from my iPhone


 On Aug 22, 2012, at 12:31 PM, Syntellia Inc syntell...@gmail.com wrote:

   Hi from the Fleksy team. We are writing to ask a question to those
 in the list.

   

   As you know, we are committed to develop Fleksy and make it
 available for more and more users.

   

   One of the restrictions we've had so far, is that on iOS, Fleksy
 cannot replace your system keyboard across the device. We provide as much
 integration as possible, letting you email, SMS, tweet, and (soon) post to
 Facebook from within Fleksy. And you can copy and paste to any other app.

   

   We are trying to go beyond this: we could provide Fleksy as a
 keyboard across the device, so you can use it in every single app without
 the need to have a separate app, or to copy and paste. We've also noticed
 that Android is becoming more and more accessible for visually impaired
 users with each update.

   

   So, here's a question for the list:

   

   If there was a phone that was accessible, and that had Fleksy built
 in from the start. By built in, we mean that Fleksy could be used as a
 system keyboard on every app, and that Fleksy would come with the phone,
 i.e. without having to purchase the app separately.

   

   How likely would this be to make you consider buying such a device?

   

   Obviously we are talking about a hypothetical scenario, so for now
 let's assume all other features will be the same as your current device.

   

   Would the availability of Fleksy as a system typing mode to use in
 every app make you consider an accessible Android phone in your next
 upgrade?

   

   Looking forward to your thoughts on this.

   

   Ioannis

   Fleksy team

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jailbreaking second jen apple tv

[paras shah]

 Is the jailbreaking experience of the second jen apple tv accessible.
Does voice over read all menus after jailbroken

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Re: Incredible GPS cycling running and walking apps now accessible.

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are there any accessible tredmill apps

On 7/31/12, Jay Phinnemore not.by.sigh...@gmail.com wrote:
 I took a look at the notes on the Developers site and your answer is no.
 Apparently, it isn't even useful for treadmill use as it uses the GPS to
 measure distance and speed along with elevation. I wish I knew this before
 I
 bought it as I do most of my walking on a treadmill indoors.



 Jay



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 Subject: Re: Incredible GPS cycling running and walking apps now
 accessible.



 Guys

 Does anyone know if these apps work on a rowing machine? That's the only
 real exercise I get apart from walking to work and back and I would love to
 use it for that. It wouldn't have to mind being stationary and only using
 the accelerometer to gauge performance.

 Thanks, Robin.

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Re: Developing with Accessibility Event

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there is a online stream also

On 7/17/12, Don Moore don.moor...@comcast.net wrote:
 From what I read in that announcement it's in DC.


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 Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 6:48 PM
 Subject: Re: Developing with Accessibility Event


 Is this online, in DC or where? The listing is not clear.
 On Jul 17, 2012, at 6:32 PM, Don Moore don.moor...@comcast.net wrote:


 Subject: Developing with Accessibility Event
 When:  September 6-7, 2012
 Time: 8:30 AM - 5:30 PM on each of two days
 Where:  FCC Commission Meeting Room and training rooms
 RSVP:  Please RSVP by August 31, 2012 to dev...@fcc.gov

 The FCC's Accessibility and Innovation Initiative (AI) is planning an
 event
 called Developing with Accessibility, at the FCC's headquarters on
 September 6 and 7, 2012.  The event is designed to spur increased
 collaboration on accessibility solutions among developers from industry,
 consumer, and government sectors.  The event will encourage the use of
 accessibility APIs (application programming interfaces), as well as
 publicly
 available data sets, in order to build accessible apps for mobile phones
 and
 websites.  A key objective is to promote the concept and practice of
 developing applications with regard for generally-accepted accessibility
 guidelines, thereby maximizing their usability for everyone, including
 people with disabilities.

 The event will offer training on development topics, in-person
 collaboration
 on programming projects, and professional networking among developers.
 As
 important as the actual event itself will be collaborative activity in
 electronic spaces before, during, and after the event.  Rather than limit
 this to accomplishments that can be achieved during a single, in-person
 event, this Developer event is not intended to be an end in itself, but
 will
 instead serve as an organizing opportunity to create mechanisms for
 ongoing
 collaboration among developers who are interested in building accessible
 technology solutions.

 It is also a goal of the AI to make smart use of new media tools to
 create
 electronic spaces for such collaboration.  We encourage others to also
 activate online collaboration spaces associated with this effort.  To
 this
 end, we suggest use of a particular abbreviation, DevAcc, as an
 electronic
 tag that facilitates searching and coordination toward these objectives.

 Please pre-register for the event by sending your name, affiliation, and
 contact information to dev...@fcc.gov by August 31, 2012. Also send
 disability accommodation requests to fcc...@fcc.gov.

 If there are particular ways that you'd like to participate, or related
 activities that you'd like to inform us about, also feel free to write to
 dev...@fcc.gov.

 The meeting site is fully accessible to people using wheelchairs or other
 mobility aids. Open captioning and assistive listening devices will be
 provided on site. Other reasonable accommodations for people with
 disabilities are available upon request. Include a description of the
 accommodation you will need and tell us how to contact you if we need
 more
 information. Make your request as early as possible. Last minute requests
 will be accepted, but may be impossible to fill. Send an e-mail to:
 fcc...@fcc.gov or call the Consumer  Governmental Affairs Bureau at
 202-418-0530 (voice), 202-418-0432 (tty).

 The general session of the event will be webcast with open captioning at
 http://fcc.gov/live

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Re: Ok! - from Fleksy

[paras shah]

how do u type using flexy.
Please give me clear instructions.
Thanks for your help.

On 7/13/12, Kellie Hickman kellie.hick...@gmail.com wrote:
 Katey,

 I understand. I have the app, and am going to play with it when I get home.
 I do like it so far, just with the little bit I've done with it.

 Kellie Hickman
 Phone: (469) 693-4804
 Email: k.hick...@verizon.net

 Come shop with me.

 For fragrances at home and on the go, there's scentsy!
 www.kelliehickman.scentsy.us
 For Fondue fun, explore Velata at
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 For your essential oil needs visit
 www.mydoterra.com/hickman


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Katey Glass
 Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 3:05 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Ok! - from Fleksy

 I broke down and got the app.  I'm slow at this.  I'm sure all I need is
 practice.  Which I'll have to do tonight at home as I'm at work now.

 this takes different muscle memory.

 Katey

 On 7/13/12, Joel Zimba zimbameis...@gmail.com wrote:
 I wonder if fleksy could benefit from that new feature in the api
 which allows an area of the screen to be excluded from vo control?

 that would mean you didn't have to toggle VO --which granted I'm
 getting used to doing already.



 On 7/13/2012 1:31 PM, Kim wrote:
 What's the difference between the default lay out and this one?

 Kim

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 To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com Date sent:
 Fri, 13 Jul 2012 13:57:27 +0100
 Subject: Re: Ok! - from Fleksy

 Hi Ricardo,

I don't think that could happen quite yet as there are just a
 few shortcomings yet to be improved. For example; just now I tried to
 type super dooper but could not input dooper as it wasn't
 recognised as a real word. As I, for one, love to use words of my own
 devising, i could get too frustrated if my only and default method of
 input were to insist that all my words be recognisable. At the
 moment, I think this is a fabulous tool for fast, accurate, and
 intuitive typing and i would love to see it, rather like the
 dictation option on the 4s, as an option alongside the default
 keyboard, but do need to keep the old method available.

However, placing the app in the doc means that I can use it
 after just one click of the home button, once in the app I have the
 option to email, message and copy, to name just a few. I have tried
 them all and all work well! plus, having chosen copy, I found it easy
 to adjust and correct my text before sending it. In this way, one
 could overcome the odd shortcoming.

Go for it! I don't think I have bought an app so worth the
 dosh for ages!
Sandy.

 Sent from my iPhone

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 wrote:

 Hi,

 I would pay if it was able to be the default IOS keyboard
 layout.  This is the only thing that really holds me back.

 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info

 On Jul 13, 2012, at 7:57 AM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi,

 I must say, that's a pretty nice app, but I certainly wouldn't
 pay 15 dollars just for a keyboard overlay that lets us type as if we
 don't need VoiceOver. The only mistakes it made were not changing 'an'
 to 'am..'
 Just my oppinion, though!


 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Sandy Tomkins
 Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 6:29 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Ok! - from Fleksy

 Ok! I an typing this using Fleksy and an finding it to be an
 extraordinary experience! I will certainly recommend it to all my
 friends! Well done to the developers. Thanks from sandy.

 Typed with Fleksy



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Re: Apples podcast client

[paras shah]

When a new show is created in yor subscriptions, do you get a
notification of this

On 6/26/12, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 Yes, What could I be doing wrong?

 On Jun 26, 2012, at 6:49 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:

 That's a good question. Are you subscribing to them in the app itself?
 I've
 subscribed to around 5, and they all show up perfectly.


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 Behalf
 Of Stacey Robinson
 Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 6:43 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Apples podcast client

 DAniel,
 When I select podcasts tab I don't see anything What could I be doing
 wrong.

 On Jun 26, 2012, at 6:37 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:

 Hi Stacey,

 Once you subscribe to a podcast, they'll be in the podcasts tab.
 Double tap on the podcast you want, and you can see the list of
 episodes for download or streaming.


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 Behalf Of Stacey Robinson
 Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 5:51 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Apples podcast client

 Hi all,
 I downloaded the podcast app that apple just released.
 I've subscribed to a couple podcasts, but now I don't know how to find
 them
 to download .
 them.
 How do you locate the podcasts you are subscribed too.

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Re: new apps for newsline users?

[paras shah]

so, u are saying that there is an app for news line? There was not an
official anouncement

On 5/27/12, fred olver goodfo...@charter.net wrote:
 I was looking at the ajenda for the convention of the NFB to be held in
 Dallas Texas, June 30 through July 5 and happened to notice some information
 about seminars concerning the Iphone and Newsline. So I took a chance and
 used the word Newsline as a search term and found the app for most if not
 all of the states listed in the app store. It's easy to navigate and easy to
 use. Note, you will need to go to a newsline address with your PC to set up
 the criteria for your own individual news feed, however it will solve a
 problem for me since the Detroit News and Detroit Free Press have become
 unusable for me in the past couple weeks. I realize this may be old news to
 some of you, but it was a nice surprise to me. Also, if anyone is going to
 the NFB convention and can make recordings of the seminars related to Apple
 products and make them available I for one would certainly appreciate it.

 Thanks.

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 http://www.dealingwithvisionloss.com  For some of us it's a way of life and
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Re: good news, iPhone 4s downgrade successful

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Were you able to restore your phone using icloud when the backup was complete

On 5/12/12, alex wallis alexwallis...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi list,
 just to follow up yesterdays post, I was able to successfully downgrade
 my iPhone 4s to iOS 5.0.1, the hole process was very painless and took
 about 20 minutes or so.
 I would suggest anyone doing this should have there screen echo set to
 all, just so you can tell the program is still working, as it outputs
 what its doing at each part of the process.
 There were a few long periods where it took a while to do its thing, but
 it all worked out fine.

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Re: it is now possible to downgrade your a5 i devices

[paras shah]

How do you save your shsh blobs

On 5/11/12, alex wallis alexwallis...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi list,
 in case nobody else has got around to posting this yet,
 I thought I would pass on the information, that a new version of the
 tool called redsn0w has just been released.
 this version offers support for downgrading a5 devices, those being the
 ipad 2,3 and iPhone 4s.
 I think the tool can be used to downgrade non a5 devices as well.
 Please note, that for the downgrade you do need to have saved your shsh
 blobs for the ios version you want to downgrade to.
 Also, these blobs are personalised to your phone, so you can't use
 someone elses if you didn't save them.
 if you didn't save them, sorry your out of luck, in order to have saved
 them you would have to have been jail broken.
 I am going to downgrade now til a new jailbreak is out for 5.1.1, as I
 did save my blobs.
 I guess for anyone who did save them and who wants to go back to a much
 less buggy ios version than 5.1 and above this method will also be
 useful, as no more unlock or braille display issues if you go back.
 please follow the below link for more information and instructions.
 http://is.gd/ZiNCj3
 also, you will need both the firmware file for the latest iOS upgrade,
 and the firmware file for the version you want to downgrade to.
 There is a link in the blog entry comments where to get the files, when
 you download them, your web browser will rename them to zip files, so
 you will need to manually rename them to have the extension .ipsw on the
 end.
 Note I would suggest only change the extension, the part after the
 period, as I have no idea what happens if you rename the file completely.
 I hope people find the above useful.
 Alex.

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Re: Apple blew it.

[paras shah]

I agree, I think some of us are spoiled when using apple products.
Remember the time before Apple. Bugs happen and we need to give good
feecback to apple.

On 5/9/12, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Raul,

 You just made my point.  It's the bashing of others that I find
 objectionable.  That's why I responded to this thread, otherwise, I would
 have let it drop.

 Les
 On May 9, 2012, at 9:00 AM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:

 Hello Les. I would agree with you on this provided that people don't bash
 one another because of it. It's ok to vent, and it's ok to have a mature
 heated discussion, but it's not ok to bash and talk down to others.

 Thanks.

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 On 5/9/2012 8:54 AM, Les Kriegler wrote:
 I'd like to offer a suggestion.  Rather than criticizing people for
 complaining and adding to this thread, why not allow people to have their
 say and let it go.  I cannot blame someone for being frustrated if they
 lost access to a feature they had before an upgrade came out.  We're
 always told to upgrade the OS as it fixes bugs and security holes.  Yet,
 when we do and something is broken as a result and we express concerns
 about it, some are chastised for doing so.  No, Apple doesn't owe blind
 people access, and yes, people should keep writing Apple in a
 constructive manner.  But if people want to blow off steam, better they
 do it here than with Apple where they will likely be ignored.  JMO

 Les
 On May 9, 2012, at 7:47 AM, Not By Sight wrote:

 I always get a kick outta people that seem to think that in this case,
 Apple
 owes the blind community something in regards to full accessibility for
 every add on option out there on the market. Whine away people, whine
 away,
 it entertains me!

 Jay

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Richard Turner
 Sent: May-08-12 4:54 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Apple blew it.

 This is my last note on this topic.
 In this case, it is actually all Apples fault.  They had the HIMS
 drivers
 working fine in IOS 5.0.  Apple broke that in 5.1 when they added the
 Humanware Brailliant BI.
 Since HIMS was coming out with a new braille display and a new note
 taker,
 they gave Apple the updated drivers shortly after 5.1 came out.
 Apple release 5.1.1 without doing anything about the problems they
 created
 with 5.1.

 The calendar bug is 100 percent Apple's issue, not dependent on any
 third
 party.

 I'm done now.
 I think I'll take a long break from this list now.

 TTFN,
 Richard




 On May 8, 2012, at 1:14 PM, Ed Worrellblindworr...@optimum.net  wrote:

 It's not all Apples fault either, the developers of the 3rd party
 products
 need to fix there lose ends too, it's a two way street. Everything isn't
 Apple's fault.

 Ed

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Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out

[paras shah]

this has never happened to  me before

On 5/8/12, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com wrote:
 even if you clear the app switcher regularly, do you power cycle daily, I
 mean turn it off and back on again?

 I also would suggest turning down the speech rate temporarily.


 Regards,

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 On 8 May 2012, at 16:46, Danielle McCullough wrote:

 I never leave things in the app switcher anyway, so I think that that out.
 I'll live with it, but maybe they'll fix it, lol.

 Danielle



 On 8 May 2012, at 04:05 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com
 wrote:

 Danielle,

 It would be my strong guess that it is a mixed issue primarily relating to
 screen reader synth speed, available processor at the time, RAM, apps
 running at the time etc.

 one thing to try, and I appreciate that you'll not want to do this for
 long, but, humour me, try for 48 hours doing the below and seeing if the
 issue resolves.

 A: speech rate no more than 60%,
 clear your app switcher twice daily, with one of these clearings occurring
 in the evening, immediately followed by a power cycle.

 It is my belief that the issue will go away, I'd be interested to see.

 if it does, keep clearing the apps, and power cycling once a day after one
 of the app switcher clear outs, and slowly increase the speech rate, and I
 mean slowly, say 65% and upwards in 5% increments.


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 On 8 May 2012, at 13:24, Danielle McCullough wrote:

 Eric, I never said it was new, just irritating. Neil, I'm too impatient
 not to use it under a hundred percent. Strangely, I never experienced this
 before the 5.01 update. Funny how some people have it and some don't.

 Danielle
 - Original Message - From: Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
 for...@talknav.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 11:53 AM
 Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out


 Eric,

 Do you have your synth speed set to very fast, or quite slow, I believe
 the default is about 30% or perhaps 40% but not faster.

 I keep mine around 50% but never higher.

 I also clear the switcher daily and restart.

 in your posting you give no reference to if you clear the switcher and
 restart your iOS device daily.

 do you do both of these things and what rate do you have VO set to?




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 Phone: - +44  844 999 4199




 On 8 May 2012, at 11:48, Eric SS wrote:

 I am amazed and confounded that so many who have been here for so long
 and
 speak as though they have such great knowledge act as though this is an
 unheard of experience that is brand new and only happening with a very
 few.

 This has been going on since IOS5. I know I have discussed it at length
 and
 probably too much. Apple has never acknowledged the issue, although they
 did
 once ask for clarification of what situations caused it.

 Trust me, I am a very heavy user and fairly knowledgeable and the issue
 is
 real and is not limited just to a few new occurrences on this list. I
 have
 tested it under all situations I can come up with on a 4S and old ITouch,
 with both quality voices and even alternate accents. I have restored both
 devices on several occasions; complete restores and not merely from
 backup.
 I have methodically added applications to the devices to find if maybe
 one
 is causing the problem. None of these has revealed anything but
 randomness.

 The only thing I can see that is more apt to trigger a lockup is quickly
 scanning elements. I have found if I stop speech or wait until it has
 finished speaking, I can reduce the occurrences, but even this does not
 eliminate them. Recovery seems an inexact science, as well. Eighty
 seconds
 seems to be the magic time to allow it to right itself, but I count to 40
 and then touch the screen to prevent it going dem or to sleep, and then
 wait
 another 40 counts. It may not be exactly 80 seconds, but a count of 80
 seems
 to be about right. Otherwise, you can restart the phone with multiple
 presses of the power button, but that will start you back at the home
 screen. I read a lot in Safari, and it is maddening to have to find your
 

Re: Apple blew it.

[paras shah]

Hi guys, you have to understand that this was a verry miner update. I
am sure it will be fixed in 6.0

On 5/8/12, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote:
 Apple did not fix the issue with the HIMS braille devices in IOS 5.1.1.
 They also did not fix the bug with setting an all-day appointment.
 Please write accessibil...@apple.com and let them know how unacceptable this
 is.

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great iphone article

[paras shah]

How the Blind Are Reinventing the iPhone - The Atlantic http://bit.ly/IXC1Zd

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Re: Update on NLS App

[paras shah]

where did you hear this. Also, if I want to get more info, who do I talk to.

On 4/29/12, Michael Malver mmal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sounds cool.

 If I were the NLS, and I'm most certainly not, I'd hope to have at least a
 prototype available for the summer convention season.

 Time will tell.





 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Steve
 Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 12:13 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Update on NLS App



 What I've heard recently is that they are still working on an app.  I heard
 that, at least the initial version, won't allow you to download talking
 books directly to the iPhone.  You will have to download them on a PC, then
 move them over via syncing them, similarly to what was done with the initial
 Learning Ally offering.



 Rumor has it that they will be demoing it at an upcoming conference for
 member librarians.





 Secret Service: Where we emphasize Service over Secret



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Re: Google Drive for iOS

[paras shah]

with sky drive, can you edit documents on your i devices if so how

On 4/28/12, Kliphton kliph...@gmail.com wrote:
 You only need your hotmail address to sign in, nothing else.
 On Apr 28, 2012, at 5:23 PM, Joe jsoro...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey, when you send links to documents or e-mail, does it force you to use
 your Hotmail address to do so? I really like the idea of Skydrive, but I
 don't know how restrictive it is about using your Hotmail ID. Thanks for
 any
 information.--Joe

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 Subject: Re: Google Drive for iOS

 I see googles attempt to jump on the storage band wagon, I signed up just
 to
 check out the accessibility.  But personally, I like sky drive, it gives
 me
 25 GB of free space, and works just like googl drive, and drop box, and
 already has a IOS app.  So I can share, edit, and modify all my documents
 across all computers and devices.  JMO

 On Apr 28, 2012, at 4:56 PM, Alex Stone alexstone...@btinternet.com
 wrote:

 This is all very well, but I can't see any way to sign up for it at
 this site.
 Cheers
 Alex

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 Behalf Of VaShaun Jones
 Sent: 27 April 2012 19:36
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Google Drive for iOS

 Listers Google Drive is similar to Drop Box and offers allot of
 functionality with accessibility built in. You get 5GB of space free.
 You can use this in addition to other storage solutions you already
 have. The iOS apps are soon to follow when Apple approves them. Check
 out drive.google.com to take a test drive. I've verified that it works
 on the Mac but Windows users miles may vary.

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