this has never happened to me before On 5/8/12, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav <[email protected]> wrote: > even if you clear the app switcher regularly, do you power cycle daily, I > mean turn it off and back on again? > > I also would suggest turning down the speech rate temporarily. > > > Regards, > > Neil Barnfather > > Talks List Administrator > Twitter @neilbarnfather > www.neilbarnfather.com > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > URL: - www.talknav.com > e-mail: - [email protected] > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > > > > > On 8 May 2012, at 16:46, Danielle McCullough wrote: > > I never leave things in the app switcher anyway, so I think that that out. > I'll live with it, but maybe they'll fix it, lol. > > Danielle > > > > On 8 May 2012, at 04:05 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Danielle, >> >> It would be my strong guess that it is a mixed issue primarily relating to >> screen reader synth speed, available processor at the time, RAM, apps >> running at the time etc. >> >> one thing to try, and I appreciate that you'll not want to do this for >> long, but, humour me, try for 48 hours doing the below and seeing if the >> issue resolves. >> >> A: speech rate no more than 60%, >> clear your app switcher twice daily, with one of these clearings occurring >> in the evening, immediately followed by a power cycle. >> >> It is my belief that the issue will go away, I'd be interested to see. >> >> if it does, keep clearing the apps, and power cycling once a day after one >> of the app switcher clear outs, and slowly increase the speech rate, and I >> mean slowly, say 65% and upwards in 5% increments. >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Neil Barnfather >> >> Talks List Administrator >> Twitter @neilbarnfather >> www.neilbarnfather.com >> >> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your >> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com >> >> URL: - www.talknav.com >> e-mail: - [email protected] >> Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 >> >> >> >> >> On 8 May 2012, at 13:24, Danielle McCullough wrote: >> >> Eric, I never said it was new, just irritating. Neil, I'm too impatient >> not to use it under a hundred percent. Strangely, I never experienced this >> before the 5.01 update. Funny how some people have it and some don't. >> >> Danielle >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" >> <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 11:53 AM >> Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out >> >> >>> Eric, >>> >>> Do you have your synth speed set to very fast, or quite slow, I believe >>> the default is about 30% or perhaps 40% but not faster. >>> >>> I keep mine around 50% but never higher. >>> >>> I also clear the switcher daily and restart. >>> >>> in your posting you give no reference to if you clear the switcher and >>> restart your iOS device daily. >>> >>> do you do both of these things and what rate do you have VO set to? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Neil Barnfather >>> >>> Talks List Administrator >>> Twitter @neilbarnfather >>> www.neilbarnfather.com >>> >>> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your >>> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com >>> >>> URL: - www.talknav.com >>> e-mail: - [email protected] >>> Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 8 May 2012, at 11:48, Eric SS wrote: >>> >>> I am amazed and confounded that so many who have been here for so long >>> and >>> speak as though they have such great knowledge act as though this is an >>> unheard of experience that is brand new and only happening with a very >>> few. >>> >>> This has been going on since IOS5. I know I have discussed it at length >>> and >>> probably too much. Apple has never acknowledged the issue, although they >>> did >>> once ask for clarification of what situations caused it. >>> >>> Trust me, I am a very heavy user and fairly knowledgeable and the issue >>> is >>> real and is not limited just to a few new occurrences on this list. I >>> have >>> tested it under all situations I can come up with on a 4S and old ITouch, >>> with both quality voices and even alternate accents. I have restored both >>> devices on several occasions; complete restores and not merely from >>> backup. >>> I have methodically added applications to the devices to find if maybe >>> one >>> is causing the problem. None of these has revealed anything but >>> randomness. >>> >>> The only thing I can see that is more apt to trigger a lockup is quickly >>> scanning elements. I have found if I stop speech or wait until it has >>> finished speaking, I can reduce the occurrences, but even this does not >>> eliminate them. Recovery seems an inexact science, as well. Eighty >>> seconds >>> seems to be the magic time to allow it to right itself, but I count to 40 >>> and then touch the screen to prevent it going dem or to sleep, and then >>> wait >>> another 40 counts. It may not be exactly 80 seconds, but a count of 80 >>> seems >>> to be about right. Otherwise, you can restart the phone with multiple >>> presses of the power button, but that will start you back at the home >>> screen. I read a lot in Safari, and it is maddening to have to find your >>> place in the middle of the New York Times once or twice per issue. Hence, >>> nursing the device to recover on its own is best. >>> >>> I have had this locking up in nearly every application from those I have >>> purchased to native apps. Again, it seems to be most consistent when >>> skimming from element to element. They do not have to be paragraph length >>> clips, but may be dates in the calendar app. >>> >>> I have presented all of this to Apple on many occasions and have begged >>> their assistance or at least some acknowledgement of the issue. As I >>> said, >>> beyond requesting more information one time, I have never even been given >>> so >>> much as a thank you for your inquiry. >>> >>> The only reasons I can think some don't seem to be having this issue ever >>> is >>> like they used to say with Windows: If you have not crashed, you are not >>> using your computer enough. Well, there could be some Fan Children >>> refusal >>> to believe anything could ever be amiss with one of the annointed's >>> blessings, too,. >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf >>> Of Daniel Miller >>> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 5:21 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out >>> >>> Um, what speech locking up are you talking about? I don't have that >>> issue. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf >>> Of James Mannion >>> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:15 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out >>> >>> It doesn't really sound like this release addressed much. I would not be >>> surprised if there are few or no fixes for anything accessibility. >>> They may have made a quick fix for the app launching on unlock since >>> people >>> made such a huge deal out of that small avoidable not really a problem >>> issue, but I wish they would fix the speech locking up over that one. It >>> is >>> really strange though that they put out this release to fix what appear >>> to >>> be such minor issues and they let huge issues hang out there for 6 or 9 >>> months until some planned release and at least claim to have addressed >>> them. >>> Purely speculation here of course on all of this, but I am betting there >>> was >>> some change in this release that Apple has some motivation to make and it >>> is >>> not written anywhere. >>> Something like a jailbreak whole patched or something. >>> >>> On 5/7/12, Veronica Elsea <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Anyone know if 5.1.1 addresses the blue tooth issue that prevented the >>>> Braille Sense OnHand from working properly with the phone? Thanks. >>>> >>>> Veronica >>>> >>>> At 01:07 PM 5/7/2012, you wrote: >>>>> Another issue not addressed, apparently, is in the calendar. When you >>>>> select all day as an option, it Kicks you completely out of the >>>>> calendar still. >>>>> >>>>> It does not give me hope that they have addressed the speech locking >>>>> up issue, either. We can only hope! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Telephone: (614) 522-9725 >>>>> Skype: sseric57 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On May 7, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Scott Howell <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Well it may be a little early to tell if this issue has been >>>>> addressed, but I am not seeing the issue where occasionally the phone >>>>> app would launch when I unlocked the screen. So, this may be one item >>>>> not addressed in the release notes. I guess only time will tell. >>>>> >>>>> On May 7, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Cristobal wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I downloaded it this time with no issues. The one bug I was glad to >>>>>> see addressed and I always encountered was that purchase prompt >>>>>> error >>>>> every time >>>>>> I downloaded an app about how x number of items were unable to be >>>>>> downloaded. Other than that, I didn't notice anything on the list >>>>>> of fixes that I had trouble with. I guess I'll keep an eye out per >>>>>> say for any accessibility improvements/fixes. >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>>>> Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner >>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 11:54 AM >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Jenifer and all, >>>>>> >>>>>> Just because accessibility isn't mentioned in the summary of the >>>>>> update doesn't necessarily mean no accessibility improvements will >>>>>> be >>> included. >>>>>> There may not be any, but there have certainly been times in the >>>>>> past where there were some, but they weren't mentioned in the >>>>>> update What's New summary. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> Anna >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On May 7, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Jenifer Gilley wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Nothing accessibility. A few bugs that were addressed in photo >>>>>>> stream, >>>>>> airplay, and two more things I can't remember, but nothing that has >>>>>> to do with accessibility. I'm updating now though just because. >>>>>>> Jenifer Gilley >>>>>>> email >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> MSN: >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: Cristobal >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 1:53 PM >>>>>>> Subject: iOS 5.1.1 is out >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It appears that iOS 5.1.1 is out for iPhones, Touches and iPads >>>>>>> for those >>>>>> who wish to give it a try. I remember running into some issues that >>>>>> didn't prevent me from updating to 5.1 on my phone, but did crash >>>>>> it the >>>>> first time >>>>>> I tried downloading it. Gizmodo only mentions a few bug fixes so I >>>>>> don't know if there's anything accessibility related. 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