Re: Favourite apps and games for mac

[Wendy Lin]

I mainly play RS Games and The Great Toy Robbery on my Mac. There’s not many 
games for the Mac, although I have a friend who plays Change Reaction.


> On Aug 3, 2023, at 1:55 PM, Jen .  wrote:
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> Hi just curious what your favourite apps and games are for the Mac.
> Jen
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Re: Pinterest

[Wendy Lin]

Not sure if there is. I tried Pinterest once and didn’t find it accessible 
myself.


On Jul 29, 2023, at 9:58 AM, Alex Stone 
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Pinterest

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Re: Spring for Twitter

[Wendy Lin]

Yeah it’s strange about the new 2FA rule. We can’t use our phone number 
anymore. I was prompt to removing my phone number. So now my 2FA is completely 
turned off unfortunately. I wonder when will Elon leave? It’s probably been 
more than 6 weeks by now since the news about Linda taking over as the Twitter 
CEO.

> On Jul 15, 2023, at 7:46 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz  wrote:
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> It started working again last night after the latest ap update hit the app 
> store. I just had to log in again and grant access to Spring. I guess we'll 
> see how long it lats this time. I believe it worked earlier than yesterday, 
> but my understanding was that you had to disable 2FA which I wasn't 
> interested in doing. I suppose the developer figured out a workaround to that 
> limitation. 
> 
> Cristóbal
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wendy 
> Lin
> Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2023 4:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Spring for Twitter
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I’ve heard of it but never really used it myself. I’ve always used the 
> regular Twitter app and sometimes the web client for things like making 
> account modifications which we can’t do on the Twitter app.
> 
> 
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>> again after its reincarnation.  Please do inform.
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Re: Problem with Quenton C's Game room

[Wendy Lin]

I don’t go on QuentinC’s Playroom often but when I do, I use the web client now 
since I have a Mac. I remember when I used the client on my PC, the server 
would lag at times.

On Jul 9, 2023, at 7:57 PM, Jen . 
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Begin forwarded message:

From: "Jen ." mailto:jencol...@hotmail.com>>
Date: July 9, 2023 at 7:56:17 PM EDT
To: blind-gam...@groups.io
Subject: Problem with Quenton C's Game room

Hi,
I have recently installed the Quenten C's game room on my computer and try to 
sign in with my username and password and I get a message that says my 
credentials are not correct.
I know they are correct because they are written down but I changed my password 
to see if that would help but it does not.
I am wondering who I contact or how to reach someone to fix this problem.
Thanks for any help.
Jen

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Re: Spring for Twitter

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Hello,

I’ve heard of it but never really used it myself. I’ve always used the regular 
Twitter app and sometimes the web client for things like making account 
modifications which we can’t do on the Twitter app.


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Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on

[Wendy Lin]

Same here and I’m still running iOS 15.5 on my iPhone SE 3 and I’ve been 
noticing lately when I scroll a lot on Facebook, Safari, etc. voiceover says 
screen curtain on out of the blue. I always keep my screen curtain on but I 
never really understood why it does that every now and then.


> On Jun 6, 2023, at 10:06 AM, Barbara Stahl  
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> This is not just a bug with iOS 16 I have iOS 15.7 and it happens to me
> 
>> On Jun 6, 2023, at 1:21 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
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>> This seems to be a bug with iOS 16.5 and also still with iOS 16.6 beta. I 
>> think what is happening is that there is some sort of brief crash because 
>> whenever this happens for me I am kicked back up the top of the page no 
>> matter if I was just swipeing through Facebook posts, reading a news article 
>> or whatever. This also happens with screen currtain off, but since I think 
>> Voiceover briefly crashes and restarts when screen curtain is on you hear 
>> the message "screen curtain on".
>> I have been meaning to send this to Apple Accessibilithy and demonstrating 
>> with a screen recording, but I am not sure if a screen recording would do 
>> much when screen curtain is on; just as a screenshot with screen curtain on 
>> gives you an image of a black screen I assume maybe a screen recording with 
>> screen curtain on does the same. I tried a few days ago and of course while 
>> I was doing the screen rec ording all went normally and this didn't happen. 
>> Anyways, I am glad I am not the only one and it would be interesting to know 
>> if others experience this or sometimes are surprised that focus suddenly 
>> jumps to the top of the page even when screen curtain is off. It is a bug 
>> for sure as far as I am concerned; not a dealvbreaker, but quite annoying.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dan 
>> Yates
>> Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 11:42 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: My phone announcing Screen curtain on
>> 
>> For some reason, my phone has begun spontaneously, announcing that my screen 
>> curtain is on. This can be real irritating when I’m in the middle of reading 
>> something and I have to start over swipe in to resume reading. I have 
>> typically kept my screen curtain on for ages to conserve battery life, and 
>> to add some privacy. Does anyone else know why this is occurring? 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

[Wendy Lin]

We sure do. I normally do the router gesture by using my thumb and middle 
fingers. Been doing that for many years now.

On Jun 6, 2023, at 9:43 PM, Esther Levegnale 
mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:

Wow.  That's pretty good as well. I guess we all have our own ways of doing 
things. Take care. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

On Jun 6, 2023, at 9:27 PM, Barbara Stahl 
mailto:stahlredstone.0...@gmail.com>> wrote:


That is interesting.  I do the roder gesture like this:  I hold the phone 
vertically using my thumbs and middle and ring fingers of both hands and then I 
swipe my two index fingers across the screen together to the right or left.  It 
seems pretty easy to me.


On Jun 6, 2023, at 6:46 PM, Esther Levegnale 
mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:

Hi, everyone,

The trick to the rotor is to have your thumb and index finger spread quite a 
bit apart.  At least, this works for me, and hope it works for all of you as 
well.  As I said, my index finger and thumb are spread apart and I find that I 
can turn the rotor very easily.

Esther

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On May 31, 2023, at 10:36 PM, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> 
wrote:


You are quite right, Traci.

I am not a huge fan of the rotor.  I find it rather cumbersome.I am not a 
huge fan and yet I cannot come up with a better idea.  Sometimes, I wish I had 
an engineering mind.  (smile).

Mark



From: 
viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Traci Duncan
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 8:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

Hello, I replied to this on MacVisionaries, but what I’m talking about is for 
iOs. :)

Two little things I’ve thought would be useful:

A VoiceOver gesture, (say a 2-finger swipe right) in the messages window to 
send the composed message. Instead of locating the send button.

A VoiceOver gesture to spell the current word in focus. Often I’m on the web 
and want something spelled out. It takes many little steps to turn the rotor to 
word, flick to the one I want, then turn the rotor to character, flick letter 
by letter. A simple shortcut would be super useful.

Those are two little things off the top of my head. :)

Take care,
Traci


On May 31, 2023, at 8:08 AM, pegkan...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Hi Mark,
I am Peggy from New Jersey. I have a question is it possible for you to check 
and see if I am subscribed twice to this list?? I have received the same 
message twice so just wondering if I have a double subscription??
 Take care of yourself.
Peggy Kane.

Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️


On May 31, 2023, at 10:58 AM, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> 
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Hello Everyone,

Seems as though it's been quite a while since I posted to the list so just
wanted to check in with you and see how everyone is doing with their Apple
devices.

I am looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote presentation, next week.

You know?  The only software feature that I really want added to the OS is
the ability to permanently save and organize iMessage content into folders.


Are there any features, accessibility-related or not, that you would like to
see introduced next week?

I hope everyone is doing well and I look forward to reading your replies.

Moderator Mark


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Re: Victor Reader Stream

[Wendy Lin]

Thank you for the info. I’ll join since I have a Victor Reader Stream myself.


On Jun 6, 2023, at 10:33 AM, Esther Levegnale 
mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:

hi, Jen, thank you so much for your information. I appreciate it. Take care. 
Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

On Jun 2, 2023, at 8:44 AM, Mo Khan 
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hi I came across the below list may be useful to you.
There is a list for the Victor Reader Stream.  To subscribe to that list, send 
a blank email with subscribe in the subject to:
victor+subscr...@groups.io
thank you.
Mo.

On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 1:04 PM Jennie Facer 
mailto:jennie.fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
HI,

ALTHOUGH YOU HAVE YOUR ANSWER, HUMANWARE, I WANTED TO TELL YOU THAT THE THIRD 
VERSION OF THE STREAM SEEMS PRETTY WELL. I HAVEN’T HAD A TREK, SO CAN’T ATTEST 
TO THAT. I HAVE USED BLUETOOTH ON THE THIRD STREAM, AND IT WORKS WELL MOST OF 
THE TIME. WITH THE NEW UPDATE, IT HASN’T CRASHED YET.

JENN
Jenn and Kumi

On May 29, 2023, at 6:36 PM, Esther Levegnale 
mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:

Hi, everyone,

What is the name of the company that puts out the Victor Reader Stream?  I 
believe I knew this at one time,but now it escapes me.

Thanks.

Esther

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Re: Messenger?

[Wendy Lin]

Luckily I’ve got my app automatic updates turned off. I wasn’t impressed by the 
last few Dice World updates which made me switch it off. I’d rather update my 
apps manually now. I heard about the Messenger bug with Voiceover. Hope they 
fix that soon. I honestly never understood the point of Facebook and Messenger 
coming out with updates every week and in the description it always says “we 
update the app to make it better for you”. Seems like they always break 
something.

> On May 26, 2023, at 3:34 PM, Star Gazer  wrote:
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> I am as well 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On May 26, 2023, at 15:10, Rafał Marzec  wrote:
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>> Hello
>> Yes, I’ve got the same problem and I’ve observed it since last two messenger 
>> updates
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On 26 May 2023, at 6:48 pm, Lelia Struve  wrote:
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>>> Hi all,  So I'm wondering if any one else is having problems with voice 
>>> over and focus and messenger? I have an iPhone 14 pro with the latest 
>>> update and I can receive messengers and send them but when I try replying 
>>> again to someone voice over reads everything and it's doable but hard to 
>>> get to where I can send another messenger.  I hope this makes sense, ask 
>>> any questions.  Thanks for any help with this.
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Re: Zello

[Wendy Lin]

I don’t remember when was the last time I used Zello myself, but I remember 
there’s a setting where you can set it so that you don’t have to hold the 
button down while talking. You just double tap to talk,.

> On May 4, 2023, at 5:31 PM, Lelia Struve  wrote:
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> Hi all, So I haven't used the zello app in years.  I just re-installed it and 
> now it doesn't seem to work good with Iphones.   When I push the hold to 
> talk, sometimes it works and most times it doesn't. If anyone can find or 
> tell me a work around to get it to work I'd appreciate that.  Thanks
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Re: Missing songs after syncing iphone with iTunes

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Hello Marty,

Are you using iTunes on Mac or Windows? If you’re a Mac user and you plug your 
iPhone into your computer to sync music, I think I have an idea what’s 
happening since that’s happened to me before. You have to tab to where it says 
free more storage and uncheck the box. The reason why that box should be 
unchecked because I noticed that’s what keeps deleting my songs off my phone 
when I know I have those songs I’m looking for in my iTunes library. After 
that, tab over to where it says artists and music genres, make sure 
everything’s checked by going through the list of all your songs, using your up 
and down arrow keys. Once everything’s selected, tab over to apply all, VO 
space bar or press the return key, then it should work. Just wait for the 
tritone sound to indicate that the sinking process is done, before you unplug 
your phone.
Hope this helps.

Wendy Lin
> On Dec 14, 2022, at 1:22 AM, Marty Hutchings  
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> I am having trouble getting iTunes to put my music library onto my iPhone.  I 
> have an iPhone 8 with 256 Gigs, so the storage isn't an issue, but still
> some of my songs are missing from the music on my iPhone after syncing.  
> These songs are in my iTunes library, so why doesn't my iPhone have them?
> 
> Marty Hutchings
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Re: weird issue with spodify and voiceover

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Well I notice a few glitches on Spotify since the update last week. I can’t 
seem to preview songs anymore so that can be an issue when we want to create 
new playlists on there in the future, how would we know if it’s the right song 
if we can’t preview it to make sure? Also adding songs to my playlists I can’t 
seem to do anymore neither. Before I was able to swipe up or down with one 
finger to get to the add to playlist button. Now It opens a new window and 
gives me the option to like the song. Very strange.

On Nov 30, 2022, at 9:09 AM, Star Gazer 
mailto:pickrellrebe...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Sometimes when I’m listening to spodify, my phone goes silent, voiceover 
appears to be on but speech isn’t. Toggling speech doesn’t fix this, I have to 
turn voiceover off and then back on which is annoying to the point that I’m 
thinking of giving up on Spodify. It seems to happen during adds. I am not 
touching the phone when it happens and nobody else is either and no we don’t 
have a cat. Smiles.
Anybody have any insights?

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Re: Mail with the Mac

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Hello,
I’m a Mac user myself and would love to be on a Mac email list as well. Try 
command option escape key to force quit and then reopen the mail app.

> On Nov 21, 2022, at 9:57 AM, Tom Rash  wrote:
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> Having a problem with mail on my Mac.  I’m still learning the Mac.  Assuming 
> some of you are using a Mac with voice over.  BTW, if there’s Mac list that 
> would be more appropriate for this question, let me know.
> Sometimes my mail app will become unusable and says,  “mail has no windows”.  
> Most of the time, if I close voice over and restart it it seems to come back. 
>  Any thoughts on what that problem might be?  
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Re: Alex?

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I have a friend who just upgraded to the latest Mac OS and he was having a hard 
time understanding why Alex wasn’t there anymore.

> On Oct 27, 2022, at 2:22 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
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> Lelia.  The Alex voice is still on the iPhone 14's.  Just go to
> settings, accessibility, voice over, speech, and then just redownload
> Alex and all shall be well.  Good luck.
> 
> On 10/27/22, Lelia Struve  wrote:
>> Hello again, so I used to have Alex as a voice. I noticed on the iPhone 14
>> Pro, Alex, no longer exists. Is that true? And if it is not true, how do I
>> get it back. Thanks.
>> 
>> Lelia
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Re: Telegram Messaging App

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I’ve tried using Telegram at least 5 times and all those times, I don’t find 
the app accessible enough, especially when it comes to Telegram groups, the 
messages are so much more cluttered comparing to being on WhatsApp and Facebook 
Messenger groups I find. Plus I don’t have many of my phone contacts using 
Telegram verses WhatsApp.

> On Oct 8, 2022, at 7:25 PM,   
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> It’s been a while sense I have used Telegram. However, the last time I used 
> Telegram, I couldn’t access channels or groups. I could message people. But 
> that’s it. Maybe it has changed sense I last used it.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of manyofus1...@outlook.com 
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> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:19 AM
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> Telegram is accessible, but creating your account is not easy. Once you’ve 
> done that though, its very accessible. I use it a lot. Its kind of like whats 
> app. The interface is similar.
> Shirley
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
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> Sent: 08 October 2022 16:51
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> Subject: Telegram Messaging App
>  
> Good morning everyone,
>  
> Recently, someone mentioned something to me called Telegram. From what I’ve 
> read, it is some sort of Messaging service. Has anyone used it, or could 
> anyone give me more information about it?
> I’m a bit concerned about its accessibility with VoiceOver. I tried going 
> into it and creating what I thought might be an account, and it really didn’t 
> read things very well. At one point, I figured that there was a box where one 
> entered a phone number. It was a bit clumsy after that, but I think I created 
> an account or whatever it’s called.
> Now, I need to know how and why to use it. 
> Thanks much.
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Re: Linked in in the iPhone

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The Linked In app for iPhone seems ok, I think it can improve more in terms of 
accessibility.

> On Oct 9, 2022, at 5:55 PM,  
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> Hi, how accessible is linked In on the iPhone?
>  
> Best,
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Re: iphone first generation and IOS16 update query

[Wendy Lin]

I miss the SE 1st generation because it was shaped like a candy bar!

> On Sep 29, 2022, at 12:29 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
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> The sE first Gen was released in March 2016 I believe and it had the same 
> processor and such as the 6S so it is no longer compatible with iOS 16.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of anthonyborg...@gmail.com 
> 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 8:56 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: iphone first generation and IOS16 update query
>  
> Oh sorry, i forgot to mention it, it is se first generation. Thank you for 
> your reply and the confirmation.
> Best 
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Mike B
> Sent: 28 September 2022 14:26
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> Subject: Re: iphone first generation and IOS16 update query
>  
> When you say the iPhone, * first generation*, are you referring to the 
> SE2016?  If so, mine would only update to iOS15.7 and no further.
>  
>  
> Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
> - Original Message -
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> Subject: iphone first generation and IOS16 update query
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> Hi 
>  
> Can anyone tell me if the iphone first generation has been updated with IOS 
> 16 please?
> Thanks in advance 
>  
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Re: Facebook Messenger

[Wendy Lin]

Messenger opens fine on my end.

> On Sep 14, 2022, at 2:10 PM, Noe Villeda  wrote:
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> I got a message from Facebook that someone tried to log in to my account.  I 
> changed my password, and I’m now able to access Facebook and messenger.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of joseph 
> hudson
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2022 2:06 PM
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>  
> This is what happens, if you log out of messenger or Facebook. Or you have 
> been hacked and somebody's changed your password. So this might have been 
> what happened to you. Because I just opened messenger right now, and I am 
> able to see my messages.
> 
> 
>> On Sep 14, 2022, at 9:57 AM, Noe Villeda > > wrote:
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>> Hello list,
>>  
>> Does anyone know if Messenger is down?
>>  
>> I was able to open it about a half hour ago, and now when I try to login, it 
>> keeps asking for my email or phone number.
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Re: ios messenger app - very good news the spoken phrase add as a favorite has gone

[Wendy Lin]

Thanks man, I’ll definitely update my Messenger app. Yeah that is annoying for 
sure when Voiceover announces every chats and messages favourited.

> On Sep 7, 2022, at 5:25 PM,   
> wrote:
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> Hi folks 
> 
> Please do update tot he latest ios messenger app, the annoying phrase spoken
> with each contact, added as favorite, has eventually been gone throug this
> update. 
> 
> I am very greatful for those who reported it tot he facebook accessibility.
> Regards
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Re: pandora music from specific artists through an echo device

[Wendy Lin]

I don’t have an echo device unfortunately. I play music through iTunes, Spotify 
and sometimes Youtube usually.

> On Jun 27, 2022, at 9:18 PM, Dan  wrote:
> 
> I do not know where to ask this so here goes.
> 
> 
> 
> I have started listening to music through my echo device.   I am having it 
> play music from my Pandora account.  One thing I can't figure out is how to 
> get it to play music from specific artists like I can on my Iphone.
> 
> 
> 
> Does anyone know how to do this?
> 
> 
> 
> thanks.
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Re: A serious problem with Facebook messenger

[Wendy Lin]

That happened to me almost a week ago when I was trying to send a happy 
birthday message to one of my Facebook friends. First it said loading, when I’d 
open the chat window but after closing and reopening the app, looking for the 
contact again and opening his chat window, it worked normally.

> On May 30, 2022, at 3:57 PM, Rafał Marzec  wrote:
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> Hello everyone
> Since a week I’ve got a serious problem with Facebook messenger for iOS
> I’m not able to send a message to person from outside of my Facebook contacts
> It says loading
> Is it a problem with messenger or something else?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Hope this is acceptable question

[Wendy Lin]

Hmm. Sorry if this is not my job since I’m not an admin of this list but isn’t 
that off topic and inappropriate?

> On May 31, 2022, at 1:24 PM, chaim biberfeld  wrote:
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> I am a 55 year old divorced man. Can someone please suggest an honest, 
> reliable fully accessible dating site or app for this very lonely Brooklyn 
> guy.
> 
> Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
> Private Practice
> 917-902-3349 
> 
> thegototherapist.com 
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Re: whatsapp update query

[Wendy Lin]

I think my WhatsApp updates automatically, I’ll check again. I’m not sure if 
anyone else on here have noticed but now Voiceover only tells us how many 
groups we have in common with a contact and no longer tells us what groups 
we’re in together.

> On May 26, 2022, at 8:30 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
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> I’ve seen this as well, but unless I misunderstood the vendor that maintains 
> our apps, the stores no longer allow this, so this might be a thing of the 
> past.
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner
> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2022 12:59 PM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List  >
> Subject: Re: whatsapp update query
>  
> Hi Sieghard and all,
>  
> I occasionally open an app and get a notice that it needs to be updated. If 
> the message is coming from anywhere else, though, such as a text or email 
> message, I agree that it's very suspicious and should be ignored.
>  
> Best,
> Anna
>  
> 
> 
> On May 26, 2022, at 12:56 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  > wrote:
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> What exactly is it asking you to update? You should carefully review what is 
> being asked on the screen as it might have to do with something other than an 
> actual app update. I don’t recall ever getting notified after opening an app 
> that I should update the app.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> anthonyborg...@gmail.com 
> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2022 9:05 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: whatsapp update query
>  
> Hi 
> I wonder if anyone can help me. the whatsapp on my Iphone is prompting me to 
> updating it but when I opened the app store to do so, I couldn’t find my 
> account.
> Can someone explain to me what I should do to go to the right place in the 
> Appstore please?
> Thanks in advance 
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Re: Does anyone have experience with telegram?

[Wendy Lin]

I’ve tried Telegram 5 times or so and that platform is not for me, especially 
when it comes to Telegram groups, the messages are cluttered I find. Even 
Signal is too quiet for me. I mostly use WhatsApp and Facebook messenger since 
they’re more active. I have weChat because of my family back in China.

> On May 19, 2022, at 6:24 PM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
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> I’m wondering is there a way to make a channels messages go in descending 
> order, going from today’s date backwards. I’m currently having to scroll 
> through a screen at a time because at first with this channel that I managed 
> to subscribe to even though the subscribe button wasn’t visible, I was 
> getting messages, but I didn’t want all of those stored on my phone so as far 
> as I know I deleted the cash, but then it happened that the messages showed 
> up from 2021. Any tips for generally managing on here would be appreciated; 
> thanks.
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Re: facebook issue

[Wendy Lin]

I’m receiving WhatsApp calls and regular phone calls fine.

> On Mar 12, 2022, at 5:20 AM, 'Ming' via VIPhone  
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> yeah 
> but, how about recieving wahtsapp calls or regular calls 
> 
> 
> Ming tel: 6421 9950 msn/window live messenger chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com 
> skype: chungchiming9950 face book: http://www.facebook.com/mingcm1
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> Wendy Lin () 在 2022年3月12日星期六 上午11:00:03 [GMT+8] 寫道：
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> 
> To the person who replied in this thread, it was a blank email.
> To Ming: Honestly I barely do Facebook messenger calls myself but when I do 
> receive calls from time to time, I have no issues. It rings on my end.
> 
>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 6:19 AM, ⁨ליאל בן סימון⁩ <⁨liel...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:liel...@gmail.com>⁩> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, I haven't any issue with that.
>> To me it works fine.
>> 
>> מילים באהבה שירותי תמלול.
>> 0509549090
>> לדף העסקי שלי:
>> https://www.facebook.com/transcribes500/ 
>> <https://www.facebook.com/transcribes500/>
>>  
>> 
>>> ‫ב-11 במרץ 2022, בשעה 12:21, ‏‏'Ming' via VIPhone 
>>> ‏mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> כתב/ה:‬
>>> 
>>> hi!all,
>>> anyone encounter an issue:
>>> when opening the facebook and have incoming calls.
>>> it does not have any ringtone and haptic feedback.
>>> anyone have this issue?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ming tel: 6421 9950 msn/window live messenger 
>>> chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com <mailto:chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com> 
>>> skype: chungchiming9950 face book: http://www.facebook.com/mingcm1 
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Re: facebook issue

[Wendy Lin]

To the person who replied in this thread, it was a blank email.
To Ming: Honestly I barely do Facebook messenger calls myself but when I do 
receive calls from time to time, I have no issues. It rings on my end.

> On Mar 11, 2022, at 6:19 AM, ⁨ליאל בן סימון⁩ <⁨liel...@gmail.com⁩> wrote:
> 
> Hi, I haven't any issue with that.
> To me it works fine.
> 
> מילים באהבה שירותי תמלול.
> 0509549090
> לדף העסקי שלי:
> https://www.facebook.com/transcribes500/ 
> 
>  
> 
>> ‫ב-11 במרץ 2022, בשעה 12:21, ‏‏'Ming' via VIPhone 
>> ‏ כתב/ה:‬
>> 
>> hi!all,
>> anyone encounter an issue:
>> when opening the facebook and have incoming calls.
>> it does not have any ringtone and haptic feedback.
>> anyone have this issue?
>> 
>> 
>> Ming tel: 6421 9950 msn/window live messenger chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com 
>> skype: chungchiming9950 face book: http://www.facebook.com/mingcm1
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Re: Apple just announced an event for March 8, 10 AM Pacific

[Wendy Lin]

I agree, iPhone SE rocks! I had the 2016 version and I loved it! I’m 
considering to get either iPhone SE 2020 or the iPhone SE 3 when I’m due for a 
new phone. Apparently iPhone SE 3 will be the last iPhone with the home button.

> On Mar 4, 2022, at 9:40 AM, Leo Bado  wrote:
> 
> By my side, just waiting for the iPhone SE 3rd generation official  
> announcement, the iPhone SE rocks!
>  
> Best,
> Leo Bado
>  
> From: 'Ming' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Friday, March 4, 2022 12:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple just announced an event for March 8, 10 AM Pacific
>  
> that' will be grateful.
> and it will have audio description as well.
> 
> 
> Ming tel: 6421 9950 msn/window live messenger chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com 
> <mailto:chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com>skype: chungchiming9950 face book: 
> http://www.facebook.com/mingcm1 <http://www.facebook.com/mingcm1>
> Wendy Lin (mailto:wendy9...@hotmail.com>>) 在 
> 2022年3月4日星期五 上午11:19:07 [GMT+8] 寫道：
>  
>  
> Yes it will be a virtual event according to Mac rumours.
> 
> 
>> On Mar 3, 2022, at 12:46 AM, 'Ming' via VIPhone > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> is it a virtrual event?
>> 
>> 
>> Ming tel: 6421 9950 msn/window live messenger chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com 
>> <mailto:chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com> skype: chungchiming9950 face book: 
>> http://www.facebook.com/mingcm1 <http://www.facebook.com/mingcm1>
>> Richard Turner (> <mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>>) 在 2022年3月3日星期四 上午04:44:59 [GMT+8] 寫道： 
>>  
>>  
>> Here is the page:
>> 
>> https://www.apple.com/apple-events/?cid=CDM-USA-DM-P0021737-497622 
>> <https://www.apple.com/apple-events/?cid=CDM-USA-DM-P0021737-497622>
>>  
>>  
>> Richard
>> 
>>  
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Re: Apple just announced an event for March 8, 10 AM Pacific

[Wendy Lin]

Yes it will be a virtual event according to Mac rumours.

> On Mar 3, 2022, at 12:46 AM, 'Ming' via VIPhone  
> wrote:
> 
> is it a virtrual event?
> 
> 
> Ming tel: 6421 9950 msn/window live messenger chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com 
>  skype: chungchiming9950 face book: 
> http://www.facebook.com/mingcm1 
> 
> Richard Turner ( >) 在 2022年3月3日星期四 上午04:44:59 [GMT+8] 寫道： 
> 
> 
> Here is the page:
> 
> https://www.apple.com/apple-events/?cid=CDM-USA-DM-P0021737-497622 
> 
>  
>  
> Richard
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Re: Food Delivery Apps

[Wendy Lin]

Oh that’s interesting that you don’t have Skip The Dishes in your part of 
Ontario. I’ll check out Feastify. Hopefully it works in Montreal!


> On Feb 20, 2022, at 3:44 PM, mich verrier  wrote:
> 
> I have tried to use a app cald feastify we don’t have skype the dishes hear 
> in the part of Ontario Canada that I am from. From Mich.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Many of us
> Sent: February 20, 2022 3:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Food Delivery Apps
>  
> I use an app called deliveroo!
> I have also used just eat in the past!
> shirley
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Alex Stone <mailto:alexston...@hotmail.com>
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 8:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: Food Delivery Apps
>>  
>> If if it helps, the website is just-eat.com <http://just-eat.com/>
>>  
>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Wendy Lin 
>> mailto:wendy9...@hotmail.com>>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 8:31:52 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
>> Subject: Re: Food Delivery Apps
>>  
>> That’s awesome! I should search for it in the App Store and see if it’s 
>> available in Canada.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 20, 2022, at 3:26 PM, Alex Stone >> <mailto:alexston...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Wendy, here in the UK we havan app called Just-eat which me and Angela use 
>>> quite a lot. It’s reasonably accessable.
>>>  
>>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>>> From:viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Wendy Lin 
>>> mailto:wendy9...@hotmail.com>>
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 8:18:03 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
>>> Subject: Food Delivery Apps 
>>>  
>>> Hi group,
>>> 
>>> I was wondering what food delivery apps do you all use? I know Uber Eats is 
>>> accessible. I tried Skip the Dishes recently and in terms of entering 
>>> information like instructions on how to get to my place, the text box 
>>> wouldn’t open when I try activating it. Also when I know I’ve turned on 
>>> push notifications, it wouldn’t keep me notified like it does on Uber Eats, 
>>> letting me know if my food order is being prepared, how far they are and 
>>> most importantly, when they’re already at my door.
>>> 
>>> Wendy
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Re: Food Delivery Apps

[Wendy Lin]

That’s awesome! I should search for it in the App Store and see if it’s 
available in Canada.

> On Feb 20, 2022, at 3:26 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
> 
> Wendy, here in the UK we havan app called Just-eat which me and Angela use 
> quite a lot. It’s reasonably accessable.
> 
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Wendy 
> Lin 
> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 8:18:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Food Delivery Apps
>  
> Hi group,
> 
> I was wondering what food delivery apps do you all use? I know Uber Eats is 
> accessible. I tried Skip the Dishes recently and in terms of entering 
> information like instructions on how to get to my place, the text box 
> wouldn’t open when I try activating it. Also when I know I’ve turned on push 
> notifications, it wouldn’t keep me notified like it does on Uber Eats, 
> letting me know if my food order is being prepared, how far they are and most 
> importantly, when they’re already at my door.
> 
> Wendy
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Food Delivery Apps

[Wendy Lin]

Hi group,

I was wondering what food delivery apps do you all use? I know Uber Eats is 
accessible. I tried Skip the Dishes recently and in terms of entering 
information like instructions on how to get to my place, the text box wouldn’t 
open when I try activating it. Also when I know I’ve turned on push 
notifications, it wouldn’t keep me notified like it does on Uber Eats, letting 
me know if my food order is being prepared, how far they are and most 
importantly, when they’re already at my door.

Wendy

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Re: Be My Eyes.

[Wendy Lin]

I love Be My Eyes! It’s a very helpful and useful app! I’m sure I’ll use it a 
lot more if I were to live on my own but for now, I use it occasionally.


> On Dec 15, 2021, at 11:20 PM, Paula Jordan  wrote:
> 
> I use it several times a week and it’s great!
> God bless!
> Paula and the pups
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of llump...@austin.rr.com 
> 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 9:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Be My Eyes.
>  
> No be my eyes is very much alive.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Andy Baracco
> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 8:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Be My Eyes.
>  
> i thought Be My Eyes disappeared.
>  
> Andy
>  
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Jenny Bomareto 
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 4:44 PM
>> Subject: Be My Eyes.
>>  
>> I updated my phone to iOS 15.2. For some reason when I called Be My Eyes 
>> isn’t making the dinging noise just to let you know that it’s finding 
>> somebody to help. I was hoping when I upgraded from 15.1 to 15.2 that would 
>> be resolved but it has not. Any suggestions? Because I’ve called Be My Eyes 
>> twice and ask them. Meaning the volunteers.
>> 
>> Thanks for your assistance regarding this matter.
>> Jenny Bomareto
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: deleting drafts

[Wendy Lin]

That’s what I would love to know too actually because there were a few times 
when my drafts wouldn’t delete no matter if I use the mail app on my iPhone or 
on my Mac.

> On Dec 4, 2021, at 4:17 AM, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
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> Is the only way to delete draft e-mails on the iPhone is to send them 
> somewhere? There are delete and cancel buttons but these don't seem to do 
> anything and the only way I've been able to get rid of draft e-mails has been 
> to address them to myself, send them and then delete them when they arrive. 
> Is there a better way?
> Alison
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Re: how do I access the entire list of games available on the playroom

[Wendy Lin]

Oh I hear you! I wish there was an app for QuentinC Playroom for the Mac and 
iOS devices.

> On Nov 28, 2021, at 5:49 PM, Mo  wrote:
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> Hi I don't know for sure but there is a lot and they have added some.
> There is also an ios app I posted the link only just aware of this.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jen .
> Sent: 28 November 2021 21:58
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: how do I access the entire list of games available on the 
> playroom
> 
> Hi yes it is.  
> Do you know how many games there are to play?  I wish there was an app for 
> your phone but as there is not I think I will stick to the windows app sounds 
> way easier.
> Jen
> 
>> On Nov 28, 2021, at 3:27 PM, Mo  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi there,
>> Is that the QC playroom quentens?
>> If so you should be able to look on the site. If you can't find them this 
>> way then once you have installed it then you should be able to arrow down  
>> join table or create a new table once you entered on this you can arrow up 
>> or down through a list of games you can play. Hope this helps.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Jen .
>> Sent: 28 November 2021 16:34
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: how do I access the entire list of games available on the playroom
>> 
>> Hi I usually play the play room games on my PC rather than my phone since 
>> there is no app for the phone and wondering on the PC how I access the full 
>> list of games you can play or is this not an option.  
>> Jen
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Re: screen protector for apple watch?

[Wendy Lin]

I don’t have an Apple Watch myself but I’ve always had a screen protector on my 
iPhone. I find it’s best to still keep my Apple devices protected, even though 
I barely drop my phone.

> On Nov 27, 2021, at 4:30 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> I wasn’t able to find one for my series 7,
>  
> I first tried otterbox or life proof
> But they at the time had nothing.
>  
> Instead I used the phone protection cover which I had for my series 4,
> Due to the series 7 being 1 mm larger in size the cover fits perfectly
>  
> It has a slightly raised edge around the screen that  gives it a slight 
> protection.
> Other than that 
> I’ve not been able to find a screen protection
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
> Malmquist
> Sent: Sunday, 28 November 2021 9:09 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: screen protector for apple watch?
>  
> Yes all, that is the question.  I have seen what I have done to watches in 
> the past so that is the question.  Where to get one and what is the best?  My 
> phone I'm not so worried about, but my watch, you better believe it.  Any 
> suggestions are appreciated.  Thanks much.
> 
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com 
>  
> We are told to let our light shine, and if it does, we won't need to tell 
> anybody it does. Light houses don't fire cannons to call attention to their 
> shining - just shine.
> Dwight L. Moody – 1837-1899, Evangelist and Publisher 
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Re: question about eye message

[Wendy Lin]

Hi Anthony,
You go into settings under messages. It should be the first thing on top where 
it says iMessage, and Voiceover should tell you if you have it on or off. If 
it’s on, your messages will be sent as iMessages. If it’s toggled off, then 
your messages will be sent as text messages. If you have contacts that are not 
using iPhones and if your phone is not connected to the internet, your messages 
will also be sent as text messages. Hope this is helpful.

> On Nov 26, 2021, at 8:44 PM, Anthony Borg  wrote:
> 
> Can you please explain to me how to turn them both on or off? 
> Thanks in advance 
> 
> Anthony 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: 26 November 2021 19:19
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: question about eye message
> 
> Yes, you can turn off iMessage, or simply make sure both iMessage and Send as 
> SMS are on.
> That way, if you are texting someone with an apple device, it will go as an 
> iMessage.  If you are texting someone with an Android device, or, when 
> iMessage is not available for some reason, it will go as a regular text 
> message.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "Sunshine is delicious, rain is refreshing, wind braces us up, snow is 
> exhilarating; there is really no such thing as bad weather, only different 
> kinds of good weather." ~ John Ruskin
> 
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of joseph 
> hudson
> Sent: Friday, November 26, 2021 10:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: question about eye message
> 
> Hi Anthony, in addition to what Sieghard had said, you can going to 
> settings/messages, and turn off I messaging. And that will present everything 
> to go as a text message. Which I think that's what you're wanting to do.
>> On Nov 26, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Anthony Borg  wrote:
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>> Hi 
>> 
>> Can anyone explain to me how to change eye message  mms to an sms text mode 
>> please? 
>> Thanks in advance 
>> 
>> Anthony 
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Re: Powering off iPhone

[Wendy Lin]

I don’t like jumping to the newest iPhone models when I upgrade. That’s how 
I’ve always been. I also look at my budget every time I purchase a new Apple 
product.

> On Nov 25, 2021, at 9:17 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> My iPhone 8 still has the home button and I have no problems upgrading
> to a new phone after a couple of years.  Part of the reason why I'm
> still not getting a new iPhone, is I'm waiting for more storage space
> and even better battery life.  I had the chance when I got my iPhone 8
> to get an iPhone 11 and I regret not getting that phone when I had the
> chance.  Glad to get all these tips about powering down the newer
> iPhone's.  Not having a home button doesn't really bother me any more.
> I know my next iPhone is going to be awesome.
> 
> On 11/25/21, Wendy Lin  wrote:
>> My phone carrier offered me the 6S for $0 last year, so I got it because I
>> wasn’t sure how ready I was to adjust to iPhones that have no home button
>> and no headphone jack. The reason why I consider iPhone SE 2020 as my next
>> phone is because it still has a home button.
>> 
>>> On Nov 24, 2021, at 1:43 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wendy, the 6S came out in 2015, when did you buy a 6S to still be under
>>> contract?
>>> And please, don't buy an SE 2020, not because it's a bad phone, it
>>> basically is for the most part an iPhone 11 on the inside and I really
>>> like my iPhone 11, but if you want a small phone then buy a 13 Mini.
>>> It seems you like to keep your phone for a long time and if you buy a 13
>>> Mini chances are you'll get 5 or maybe 6 years out of it as well.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Wendy Lin
>>> Sent: November 23, 2021 5:39 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Powering off iPhone
>>> 
>>> Awesome! It’s good to know both ways work for the iPhone SE 2020 because I
>>> might consider getting that phone when my contract for the 6S expires. Or
>>> maybe I will keep my 6S a little longer after I’m not sure yet. And you’re
>>> right, it is good to close everything in the app switcher and restart my
>>> phone from time to time. That’s what I do.
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 23, 2021, at 12:10 PM, Vicky Collins 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Since the 2020 SE has a home button, Apple indicates that phones with
>>>> home buttons hold down the side button to get the power off message, and
>>>> that was indeed what I had been doing. However, when I checked just now
>>>> with my second generation SE, I was surprised to also be able to hold
>>>> down the side button and volume down button or press and quickly release
>>>> the volume up, volume down, and then press and hold the side button for a
>>>> second or two as discussed earlier for the phones without a home button.
>>>> 
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: Sieghard Weitzel  
>>>> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
>>>> Date: Tuesday, November 23, 2021 11:27 am
>>>> Subject: RE: Powering off iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's a good idea to clear your app switcher and power off the phone from
>>>>> time to time, even if all is good maybe doing so once a month certainly
>>>>> isn't going to hurt.
>>>>> I assume you power of a second Gen iPhone SE the same way as all the
>>>>> other newer phones, a simple Google search for "How to shut down iPhone
>>>>> SE 2020" should give you the info.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>>>> Gerardo Corripio
>>>>> Sent: November 23, 2021 3:13 AM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: Powering off iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> And for the SE2020, how would one mower it off? I've never had to do it,
>>>>> but it wouldn't hurt to know. With the First Generation SE, and those
>>>>> before it, you'd just hold down the Power/unlock to bring up the "Power
>>>>> Off" or Cancel button.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gera
>>>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>>>>> 
>>>>>> El 23 nov 2021, a laggness) 12:51 addm., Sieghard Weitzel
>>>>>>  escribió:
>>>>>> 
>>>

Re: Powering off iPhone

[Wendy Lin]

My phone carrier offered me the 6S for $0 last year, so I got it because I 
wasn’t sure how ready I was to adjust to iPhones that have no home button and 
no headphone jack. The reason why I consider iPhone SE 2020 as my next phone is 
because it still has a home button.

> On Nov 24, 2021, at 1:43 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Wendy, the 6S came out in 2015, when did you buy a 6S to still be under 
> contract?
> And please, don't buy an SE 2020, not because it's a bad phone, it basically 
> is for the most part an iPhone 11 on the inside and I really like my iPhone 
> 11, but if you want a small phone then buy a 13 Mini.
> It seems you like to keep your phone for a long time and if you buy a 13 Mini 
> chances are you'll get 5 or maybe 6 years out of it as well.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wendy 
> Lin
> Sent: November 23, 2021 5:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Powering off iPhone
> 
> Awesome! It’s good to know both ways work for the iPhone SE 2020 because I 
> might consider getting that phone when my contract for the 6S expires. Or 
> maybe I will keep my 6S a little longer after I’m not sure yet. And you’re 
> right, it is good to close everything in the app switcher and restart my 
> phone from time to time. That’s what I do.
> 
>> On Nov 23, 2021, at 12:10 PM, Vicky Collins  wrote:
>> 
>> Since the 2020 SE has a home button, Apple indicates that phones with home 
>> buttons hold down the side button to get the power off message, and that was 
>> indeed what I had been doing. However, when I checked just now with my 
>> second generation SE, I was surprised to also be able to hold down the side 
>> button and volume down button or press and quickly release the volume up, 
>> volume down, and then press and hold the side button for a second or two as 
>> discussed earlier for the phones without a home button.
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Sieghard Weitzel  
>> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
>> Date: Tuesday, November 23, 2021 11:27 am
>> Subject: RE: Powering off iPhone
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It's a good idea to clear your app switcher and power off the phone from 
>>> time to time, even if all is good maybe doing so once a month certainly 
>>> isn't going to hurt.
>>> I assume you power of a second Gen iPhone SE the same way as all the other 
>>> newer phones, a simple Google search for "How to shut down iPhone SE 2020" 
>>> should give you the info.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Gerardo Corripio
>>> Sent: November 23, 2021 3:13 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Powering off iPhone
>>> 
>>> And for the SE2020, how would one mower it off? I've never had to do it, 
>>> but it wouldn't hurt to know. With the First Generation SE, and those 
>>> before it, you'd just hold down the Power/unlock to bring up the "Power 
>>> Off" or Cancel button.
>>> 
>>> Gera
>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>>> 
>>>> El 23 nov 2021, a laggness) 12:51 addm., Sieghard Weitzel 
>>>>  escribió:
>>>> 
>>>> "Which iPhone do you have? If it's anything like an XR, 11, 12 or 13 
>>>> series phone holding the side button does not bring up the Power Off 
>>>> screen, you have to either press and hold one of the volume buttons along 
>>>> with the side button at the same time or press first volume up briefly, 
>>>> then volume down and then press and hold the side button for about 2 
>>>> seconds.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>> Wendy Lin
>>>> Sent: November 22, 2021 8:16 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Powering off iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>> Is it normal when the power button doesn't always work to power off the 
>>>> phone? Sometimes when I need to wipe down my iPhone and I want to power 
>>>> off my device first before doing so, I notice when I hold down the power 
>>>> button that I'm not always given the dialogue with the power off button 
>>>> and cancel button, so I would have to turn off my phone in the settings.
>>>> 
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Re: Powering off iPhone

[Wendy Lin]

Awesome! It’s good to know both ways work for the iPhone SE 2020 because I 
might consider getting that phone when my contract for the 6S expires. Or maybe 
I will keep my 6S a little longer after I’m not sure yet. And you’re right, it 
is good to close everything in the app switcher and restart my phone from time 
to time. That’s what I do.

> On Nov 23, 2021, at 12:10 PM, Vicky Collins  wrote:
> 
> Since the 2020 SE has a home button, Apple indicates that phones with home 
> buttons hold down the side button to get the power off message, and that was 
> indeed what I had been doing. However, when I checked just now with my second 
> generation SE, I was surprised to also be able to hold down the side button 
> and volume down button or press and quickly release the volume up, volume 
> down, and then press and hold the side button for a second or two as 
> discussed earlier for the phones without a home button.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Sieghard Weitzel  
> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
> Date: Tuesday, November 23, 2021 11:27 am
> Subject: RE: Powering off iPhone
> 
>> 
>> 
>> It's a good idea to clear your app switcher and power off the phone from 
>> time to time, even if all is good maybe doing so once a month certainly 
>> isn't going to hurt.
>> I assume you power of a second Gen iPhone SE the same way as all the other 
>> newer phones, a simple Google search for "How to shut down iPhone SE 2020" 
>> should give you the info.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Gerardo Corripio
>> Sent: November 23, 2021 3:13 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Powering off iPhone
>> 
>> And for the SE2020, how would one mower it off? I've never had to do it, but 
>> it wouldn't hurt to know. With the First Generation SE, and those before it, 
>> you'd just hold down the Power/unlock to bring up the "Power Off" or Cancel 
>> button.
>> 
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>> 
>>> El 23 nov 2021, a laggness) 12:51 addm., Sieghard Weitzel 
>>>  escribió:
>>> 
>>> "Which iPhone do you have? If it's anything like an XR, 11, 12 or 13 series 
>>> phone holding the side button does not bring up the Power Off screen, you 
>>> have to either press and hold one of the volume buttons along with the side 
>>> button at the same time or press first volume up briefly, then volume down 
>>> and then press and hold the side button for about 2 seconds.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Wendy Lin
>>> Sent: November 22, 2021 8:16 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Powering off iPhone
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> Is it normal when the power button doesn't always work to power off the 
>>> phone? Sometimes when I need to wipe down my iPhone and I want to power off 
>>> my device first before doing so, I notice when I hold down the power button 
>>> that I'm not always given the dialogue with the power off button and cancel 
>>> button, so I would have to turn off my phone in the settings.
>>> 
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Re: Powering off iPhone

[Wendy Lin]

Hi guys, thanks for your help. I actually have the iPhone 6S, so I guess it’s 
holding down the power button.

> On Nov 23, 2021, at 1:51 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Which iPhone do you have? If it's anything like an XR, 11, 12 or 13 series 
> phone holding the side button does not bring up the Power Off screen, you 
> have to either press and hold one of the volume buttons along with the side 
> button at the same time or press first volume up briefly, then volume down 
> and then press and hold the side button for about 2 seconds.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wendy 
> Lin
> Sent: November 22, 2021 8:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Powering off iPhone
> 
> Hi everyone,
> Is it normal when the power button doesn’t always work to power off the 
> phone? Sometimes when I need to wipe down my iPhone and I want to power off 
> my device first before doing so, I notice when I hold down the power button 
> that I’m not always given the dialogue with the power off button and cancel 
> button, so I would have to turn off my phone in the settings.
> 
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Re: Powering off iPhone

[Wendy Lin]

Hi Esther,
Yeah it’s a good routine to keep, especially when you get home from places.

> On Nov 23, 2021, at 3:05 PM, Esther Levegnale  
> wrote:
> 
> hi, I do the same thing. I keep cleaning the screen. Esther
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
> 
>> On Nov 23, 2021, at 12:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Also, on a different note, it isn't really necessary at all to power off 
>> your phone when cleaning the screen.
>> I usually lock the screen and then wipe it down with a damp cloth and then 
>> with a dry one; there is no danger that anything will happen.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Carolyn
>> Sent: November 23, 2021 8:59 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Powering off iPhone
>> 
>> Do you press Volume Up and Volume Down, then Power Button? If not, that 
>> would be your problem with powering off. 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Wendy Lin
>> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2021 11:16 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Powering off iPhone
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> Is it normal when the power button doesn’t always work to power off the 
>> phone? Sometimes when I need to wipe down my iPhone and I want to power off 
>> my device first before doing so, I notice when I hold down the power button 
>> that I’m not always given the dialogue with the power off button and cancel 
>> button, so I would have to turn off my phone in the settings.
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Powering off iPhone

[Wendy Lin]

Hi everyone,
Is it normal when the power button doesn’t always work to power off the phone? 
Sometimes when I need to wipe down my iPhone and I want to power off my device 
first before doing so, I notice when I hold down the power button that I’m not 
always given the dialogue with the power off button and cancel button, so I 
would have to turn off my phone in the settings.

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Re: iTunes music library

[Wendy Lin]

Hi, perhaps your iCloud backup is turned off? I know that happened to me once 
so when I turned back on iCloud backup in the iPhone settings and then plugging 
my phone to my computer to sink music from iTunes, it was working fine again. 
Or maybe under artists tab or songs tab in iTunes, not all the boxes are 
checked when you go through the list of what you have before tabbing over to 
apply button.

> On Nov 22, 2021, at 9:53 PM, Marty  wrote:
> 
> Hello,  I have noticed that when transferring music from my computer to my 
> iPhone 8 via iTunes, not all of my music is showing up on my phone.  There is 
> plenty of memory space, so I know that this is not the issue.  I do know that 
> some of my song files are missing some metadata.  Could this be the reason 
> for songs not transferring?  I have been using MP3 Tagger to try to bring all 
> files into some sort of uniformity and when this is complete, how do I delete 
> my current library from iTunes, so I can import the properly labeled library?
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Re: add me to dice world

[Wendy Lin]

Lol Chocoholic was the first user name I had when I started on Dice World. 
That’s awesome you were able to take that one!


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 20, 2021, at 1:28 PM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
> 
> Mine is chocoholic. I don't play yatzi or pig. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 20, 2021, at 12:09 PM, Curtis Delzer  wrote:
>> 
>> If you play dice world, add me please? curtis1014, all except pig, or if 
>> you must . . .
>> 
>> and my wife Karen is karenkitty
>> 
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Re: add me to dice world

[Wendy Lin]

I go by PuddleOfMuddFanatic if anyone wants to play me on Dice World. I only 
play farkle and Pig, but for those who don’t enjoy playing pig I totally 
understand. Just play me on Farkle.

> On Nov 20, 2021, at 12:46 PM, CHELA Robles  wrote:
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> Mine is Chela_Robles I will add you later on today. I don’t like pig much 
> either but if I have to I’ll play it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Nov 20, 2021, at 9:09 AM, Curtis Delzer  wrote:
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>> If you play dice world, add me please? curtis1014, all except pig, or if 
>> you must . . .
>> 
>> and my wife Karen is karenkitty
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Re: Phone Messages Help Please.

[Wendy Lin]

I usually use wet wipes to clean my phone. That way I’m cleaning my phone but I 
don’t have to worry about any water really dripping on my phone.

> On Nov 14, 2021, at 9:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Maybe turn it off, then turn your phone off. While it is off use the 
> opportunity to give your screen a good cleaning by which I mean wipe it down 
> with a damp but not wet to the point where it is dripping cloth and then with 
> a soft dry cloth afterwards.
> Then turn your phone back on and go back into Voiceover Settings > Audio and 
> turn the Auto Select Speaker option back on and see if that does anything.
> If that still doesn't help and you don't want to upgrade you can try a Reset 
> Network Settings, it can fix all sorts of issues sometimes.
> Keep in mind that  you will have to know your WiFi password and reconnect to 
> your WiFi after you reboot.
> Reset Network Settings is in Settings > General > Reset
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of janet gross
> Sent: November 14, 2021 6:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Phone Messages Help Please.
>  
> Hi, 
> I just followed your steps, but it didn’t help.  Although, the setting was 
> already turned on.  Any other suggestions?  Thank you. 
>  
> Janet 
>  
>  
> Sent from Mail  for Windows
>  
> From: Sieghard Weitzel 
> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 8:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Phone Messages Help Please.
>  
> Go to Settings > Accessibility > Voiceover > Audio
> Then swipe until you hear "Auto Select Speaker in Call" and make sure this is 
> On, if it says "Off" then it would be normal that the audio doesn't switch 
> automatically when you take the phone away from your ear.
> If it is off just double tap and it will change to On, then close settings 
> and you should be fine.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of janet gross
> Sent: November 14, 2021 5:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Phone Messages Help Please.
>  
> Hi, 
> Can you tell me how to do this? Then maybe I might be able to rectify my 
> issue. 
>  
> Thank you. 
>  
> Janet 
> Sent from Mail  for Windows
>  
> From: Sieghard Weitzel 
> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 7:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Phone Messages Help Please.
>  
> Have you checked to make sure the Setting responsible for auto switching 
> didn't somehow get turned off?
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of janet gross
> Sent: November 14, 2021 5:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Phone Messages Help Please.
>  
> Hi Everyone, 
> For quite some time now, when I listen to a phone message, I have to hold the 
> phone to my ear to hear the message, and if I pull my phone away from my ear 
> while listening to a message, I can’t hear the message.  I want to use the 
> speaker to listen to the message.  Can someone please tell me what I can do 
> to use the speaker instead of holding the phone to my ear? I’m using my XR 
> with 14.8.  Please don’t tell me I need to update my phone, as I already know 
> this, but I don’t have enough of space on my phone for the iOS 15.  
>  
> Thank you all in advance. 
>  
> Janet 
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Re: Phone Messages Help Please.

[Wendy Lin]

On the topic of messages and speaker phone, I’ve been noticing this bug with 
the Messenger app. When I’d put the phone to my ear, the messages are still 
playing on speaker phone. I’ve tried contacting Facebook about that and up to 
now they haven’t fixed that glitch. I know a couple of visually impaired 
friends that are iPhone users, experiencing this glitch as well. It used to 
work fine.

> On Nov 14, 2021, at 8:49 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> For now, use earphones.
> Maybe 15.2 will be better and maybe you will be able to update at some point 
> by clearing out some space.
> But, for now, you are stuck with using earphones.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- Jane Wagner 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> website:  www.turner42.com 
> 
> (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)
> 
>> On Nov 14, 2021, at 5:44 PM, janet gross  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Everyone,
>> For quite some time now, when I listen to a phone message, I have to hold 
>> the phone to my ear to hear the message, and if I pull my phone away from my 
>> ear while listening to a message, I can’t hear the message.  I want to use 
>> the speaker to listen to the message.  Can someone please tell me what I can 
>> do to use the speaker instead of holding the phone to my ear? I’m using my 
>> XR with 14.8.  Please don’t tell me I need to update my phone, as I already 
>> know this, but I don’t have enough of space on my phone for the iOS 15. 
>>  
>> Thank you all in advance.
>>  
>> Janet
>> Sent from Mail 
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Re: Using Whatsapp

[Wendy Lin]

Hello,
Honestly I haven’t been really paying attention to my app updates if WhatsApp 
updated recently but I don’t do WhatsApp calls often. I’ve been having a 
problem with the Facebook messenger app though. It’s been over 3 months or so 
when every time I listen to voice messages in a chat window, when I put the 
phone to my ear, it doesn’t switch to earpiece anymore. The voice messages 
still remain playing on speaker.

Wendy

> On Oct 21, 2021, at 7:29 PM, Noe Villeda  wrote:
> 
> Hello List,
>  
> Has anyone had an issue when you try to listen to a call, by bringing the 
> phone to your ear, the message stops playing?
>  
> I’ve deleted and reinstalled Whatsapp, and am still having the same issue.
>  
> Any thoughts?
>  
> Noe
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Re: WhatsApp not Connecting Although Internet Is Available

[Wendy Lin]

Hi guys,
Actually Facebook, Instagram and WhatsApp are working again now. They were down 
for about 6 hours.

Wendy

> On Oct 4, 2021, at 4:03 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
> 
> Hello, Facebook and its partners have been down since 9 AM central. And no 
> signs of them coming back up for quite some time.
> 
>> On Oct 4, 2021, at 2:51 PM, Fazil  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, Group.
>> I have iPhone8 with iOS15.1.
>> I have internet but WhatsApp is not working. When I go to WhatsApp, it says 
>> connecting.
>> Siri and Alexa are working just fine.
>> I have powered off the phone a couple of times and restarted WhatsApp 
>> several times but it is still not connecting.
>> What else should I try?
>> Thanks!
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Re: Taking photos off an IPhone

[Wendy Lin]

What I normally do with my photos since I take a lot of pictures when I go on 
trips, I email the photos one by one to myself, save them on my computer from 
my email, copy paste/cut and paste all the pictures to my flash drive and then 
I delete them off my phone. I have a 6S.


> On Oct 2, 2021, at 3:46 PM, Nancy Hill  wrote:
> 
> Everyone,
> 
> 
> My husband has an 8+.  He has a lot of photos on it and just cannot seem to 
> figure out how to get the pix off the phone and put them on a PC to then be 
> transferred to a flash or external HD to free up some space on his phone.
> 
> 
> Would some one please give me the directions on how that can be done so I can 
> pass along your instructions?
> 
> 
> Many, many thanks in Advance!
> 
> 
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Re: muting phone, VO & IOS 15.1

[Wendy Lin]

Thanks! I totally forgot about that way lol.

> On Oct 3, 2021, at 7:50 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> It also sounds like the VoiceOver setting to speak all notifications is on.
> Go to Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, Verbosity, and turn off Always 
> Speak Notifications.
>  
> The other options are very good as well.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
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> My Web site:https://www.turner42.com <https://www.turner42.com/>
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Wendy Lin
> Sent: Sunday, October 3, 2021 4:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: muting phone, VO & IOS 15.1
>  
> Yeah I don’t blame you. I tend to mute my phone, turn off the speech and turn 
> on screen curtain on my phone. I just find I have the best privacy that way.
>  
> 
> 
> On Oct 3, 2021, at 7:06 PM, Simon A Fogarty  <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
>  
> You could go in to notifications and turn them off for things that are 
> appearing on the lock screen.
> That’s probably the safer option other than turn vo off or down in those 
> situations.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Vicki W.
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> To: IPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: muting phone, VO & IOS 15.1
>  
> Hi,
>  
> Since I updated my phone, an older SE, when I mute the phone with the side 
> switch, it will vibrate as usual when a message or alert comes in, but it 
> also speaks exactly what's coming in on the screen rather than remaining 
> silent as before. Any place I need to change a setting to make it mute VO 
> like it used to when the phone is muted?
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Vicki
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Re: muting phone, VO & IOS 15.1

[Wendy Lin]

Yeah I don’t blame you. I tend to mute my phone, turn off the speech and turn 
on screen curtain on my phone. I just find I have the best privacy that way.


> On Oct 3, 2021, at 7:06 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
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> You could go in to notifications and turn them off for things that are 
> appearing on the lock screen.
> That’s probably the safer option other than turn vo off or down in those 
> situations.
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki 
> W.
> Sent: Monday, 4 October 2021 11:53 am
> To: IPhone 
> Subject: muting phone, VO & IOS 15.1
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> Hi,
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> Since I updated my phone, an older SE, when I mute the phone with the side 
> switch, it will vibrate as usual when a message or alert comes in, but it 
> also speaks exactly what's coming in on the screen rather than remaining 
> silent as before. Any place I need to change a setting to make it mute VO 
> like it used to when the phone is muted?
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Re: Blind Apples, another list

[Wendy Lin]

Thanks for the info! I’ll join! It’s nice to be on multiple Apple groups! :)

> On Sep 28, 2021, at 11:14 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
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> Bye!
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> anything apple related  come on in and ask your question.  This list is for 
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Re: Issue with native Twitter application

[Wendy Lin]

You’re welcome! It took me some time to get used to that too because the 
compose button is so small now.

> On Sep 26, 2021, at 1:02 AM, turab chimthanawala  wrote:
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> Hi Wendy,
> Super thanks. That worked instantly.
> 
> On 9/26/21, Wendy Lin  wrote:
>> Actually that issue has been there a while ago. I can’t recall which year
>> nor which version it started, but on the left where the home tab is in the
>> Twitter app, I swipe left or right with one finger and the compose tweet
>> button should be there. I hope that works.
>> 
>> Wendy
>> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2021, at 2:16 PM, Turabh  wrote:
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>>> Hi all, I am noticing a strange problem with the Twitter application.
>>> After the recent update, I am unable to locate the compose tweet option at
>>> the top of the screen. Anyone facing this problem? Thanks.
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Re: Is it no longer possible to delete individual messages on Skype?

[Wendy Lin]

Oh that’s strange. The way how I do it is I go to the chat I wish to delete, 
double Tapp and hold, and then there should be a list of options popping up. 
Look for delete, double tap on that and then the chat should be deleted. Now on 
the Mac side I’ve been wondering how to do that because my old Skype chats 
still appears, even though I know I’ve deleted them in the Skype app on my 
iPhone.

Wendy

> On Sep 24, 2021, at 1:19 PM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
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> I remember doing it before, but now I couldn’t. When I looked it up on the 
> web, it said to hold the message, find delete, and confirm that you want to 
> remove, but that doesn’t work, no option for delete appears. I could only 
> delete the whole history. Does anyone know a way I haven’t thought of? Thanks.
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Re: Issue with native Twitter application

[Wendy Lin]

Actually that issue has been there a while ago. I can’t recall which year nor 
which version it started, but on the left where the home tab is in the Twitter 
app, I swipe left or right with one finger and the compose tweet button should 
be there. I hope that works.

Wendy

> On Sep 25, 2021, at 2:16 PM, Turabh  wrote:
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> Hi all, I am noticing a strange problem with the Twitter application. After 
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Re: please do not update to the latest messenger

[Wendy Lin]

Well for some reason even though my app automatic updates are turned off, my 
apps still end up updating automatically. This has been happening since I got 
my iPhone 6S last year. It never happened in my previous iPhones. I was able to 
update my apps manually but now they tend to update automatically.

Wendy

> On Aug 21, 2021, at 5:20 AM,   
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> All blind and visually impaired users of voiceover should learn not to 
> auto-update their apps. For the most used applications you'd better always 
> wait some months to update. I do always update my apps because I use 2 
> devices one to test.
> Davy 
> 
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Donna Casteen
> Verzonden: vrijdag 20 augustus 2021 0:19
> Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Onderwerp: Re: please do not update to the latest messenger
> 
> 
>> 
>> I didn't realize the problem until it was brought to my attention on this 
>> list. Sad part...I have used the messenger app several times since updating 
>> & didn't even notice the problem.
> 
> Donna
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>> Oh good so I’m not the only one that’s noticing this issue. Hoping they will 
>> fix it next go round of updates.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Aug 19, 2021, at 12:57 PM, davycupp...@gmail.com wrote:
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>>> Because if you do so all your messages wil be stated as unread even 
>>> if they have already been read.
>>> Davy
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Re: messenger ios app bug is fixed

[Wendy Lin]

Hi Davy,

Thanks for letting us know! I’ve checked in the App Store and messenger was 
updated 3 days ago on my end. I was hoping to update to the latest version if 
that hasn’t updated automatically, but still no new updates so I’m stuck with 
voiceover telling me that my chats are unread when they have been read and 
replied to.

Wendy

> On Aug 23, 2021, at 4:47 PM,   
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> Hi folks 
> 
> Good news.
> 
> Tonight here in Europe, there was a release for a new ios facebook messenger
> app and the status read or unread is back normal, that is to say that read
> messages have no status at all but this has always been the case here and is
> no problem at all to manage messages.
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Re: please do not update to the latest messenger

[Wendy Lin]

My messenger better not update automatically! Sounds like the new messenger 
update has glitches.

> On Aug 20, 2021, at 7:47 AM, Star Gazer  wrote:
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> I’m seeing this too it now looks like I have a lot of unread messages. 
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> Sent from Mail  for Windows
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> From: CHELA Robles 
> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2021 6:10 PM
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> Subject: Re: please do not update to the latest messenger
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> Oh good so I’m not the only one that’s noticing this issue. Hoping they will 
> fix it next go round of updates.
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> > Because if you do so all your messages wil be stated as unread even if they
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Re: Alerts

[Wendy Lin]

I didn’t even know there was a way to shut off amber alerts. I’ve always wanted 
to do that because the noise is too loud when it goes off out of the blue, 
especially when my phone is in my hands.

Wendy

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> Regina:
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> It had been a long time since I did it, and I had also forgotten. 
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Re: Tweet button is dimmed

[Wendy Lin]

Hahahahaha you’re welcome!

> On Aug 10, 2021, at 7:36 PM, brian albriton  wrote:
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> Bingo! I was too wordy
> 
>> On Aug 9, 2021, at 8:16 PM, Wendy Lin  wrote:
>> 
>> Maybe because you went past 280 characters that’s why the tweet button is 
>> dimmed? I know it happens to me when I write more than 280 characters, it 
>> won’t let me tweet unless I remove some characters like shorten what I want 
>> to say and then it will allow me.
>> 
>> Wendy
>> 
>>> On Aug 9, 2021, at 7:33 PM, brian albriton  wrote:
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>>> I had the username preceded by the at sign just like i did last week but 
>>> the tweet button is dimmed.  Does anybody have any idea why this could be? 
>>> maybe I just don’t get out enough
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Re: Tweet button is dimmed

[Wendy Lin]

Maybe because you went past 280 characters that’s why the tweet button is 
dimmed? I know it happens to me when I write more than 280 characters, it won’t 
let me tweet unless I remove some characters like shorten what I want to say 
and then it will allow me.

Wendy

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Re: facebook question about selecting people you don't want to see posts.

[Wendy Lin]

Hi Chris,

I believe there’s a way to restrict accounts. For example if you don’t want me 
to see your Facebook posts, you can go into my profile, under the more button 
there should be options like unfriend, block, see friendship, restrict? I know 
there’s a way to take breaks from seeing posts from people you don’t want to 
see. I’ve never really fiddled around with any of those buttons sorry! But 
since Facebook and Instagram are pretty connected because they’re in the same 
family now I’m sure there are ways to restrict people from seeing your posts. 
Hope that helps.

Wendy

> On Aug 8, 2021, at 4:49 PM, Chris Judd  wrote:
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> Hi all,
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> I was wondering in facebook, is there a way that you can select certain 
> people who you don't want to see your posts?
> If yes, is this just on a temp basis, or can you do this permanently?
> Thanks, any help would be appreciated.
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Re: canciling uber eats pass.

[Wendy Lin]

Hi I’ve never even heard about Uber Eats pass. I usually order when I get a 
promo code, or order when I don’t wanna eat any food from home lol!

Wendy

> On Aug 4, 2021, at 5:27 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
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> Hello, have you tried contacting Uber about this? I don't use the Uber eats 
> pass.
> 
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> On Tue, Aug 3, 2021, 8:02 AM Chris Judd  > wrote:
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> I am having trouble canciling uber eats pass.  I was wondering if anyone 
> has any luck with accomplishing this?
> I can't find in the app where to cancil it.
> Thanks for any help,
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Re: Facebook Messenger app voice messages

[Wendy Lin]

Yes plugging in earphones still work fine for now.

Wendy

> On Aug 2, 2021, at 11:14 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
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> For now a work-around would be to use a headset since I assume if you plug in 
> a headset or use a Bluetooth headset that they would play there? Sorry, don't 
> have any voice messages in Facebook to test it with.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wendy 
> Lin
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> Subject: Facebook Messenger app voice messages
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> Hi group,
> I don’t know if this is only a glitch for iPhone users so thought I’d try 
> asking here. It’s been nearly 3 weeks now since Facebook messenger app has 
> been causing me problems when listening to voice messages; either they are 
> voice messages I receive or voice messages I send out, it seems to be staying 
> on speaker phone even when I put my phone to my ear to try to get them 
> playing on ear piece mode. I know it has nothing to do with my device because 
> I can listen to WhatsApp voice messages fine when putting the phone to my 
> ear. I’ve even tried rebooting my phone, uninstalling and reinstalling the 
> Facebook messenger app, it still didn’t fix the glitch. It’s been a few 
> updates since then and the glitch is still there. I’ve even wrote a review in 
> the App Store and tried reporting the bug to them on Twitter. No response 
> what soever. I also know at least one or two blind users who are dealing with 
> the same issue when listening to voice messages on Messenger.
> 
> Wendy
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Facebook Messenger app voice messages

[Wendy Lin]

Hi group,
I don’t know if this is only a glitch for iPhone users so thought I’d try 
asking here. It’s been nearly 3 weeks now since Facebook messenger app has been 
causing me problems when listening to voice messages; either they are voice 
messages I receive or voice messages I send out, it seems to be staying on 
speaker phone even when I put my phone to my ear to try to get them playing on 
ear piece mode. I know it has nothing to do with my device because I can listen 
to WhatsApp voice messages fine when putting the phone to my ear. I’ve even 
tried rebooting my phone, uninstalling and reinstalling the Facebook messenger 
app, it still didn’t fix the glitch. It’s been a few updates since then and the 
glitch is still there. I’ve even wrote a review in the App Store and tried 
reporting the bug to them on Twitter. No response what soever. I also know at 
least one or two blind users who are dealing with the same issue when listening 
to voice messages on Messenger.

Wendy

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Re: Amazon Alexa App Problem

[Wendy Lin]

Alexa app on my phone seems to be working fine.

> On Jun 24, 2021, at 11:18 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> Robert; I don’t believe voiceover disappeared it probably went to your 
> earpiece. I had that happens sometimes with Verizon wireless and I’ve had it 
> happen also with the Alexa app. What I do is back out of the app and then go 
> back into it again and voiceover reappears.I hope this helps
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
> 
>> On Jun 24, 2021, at 12:53 PM, Robert Doc Wright  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> when I opened the app voiceover disappeared.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Edward Przybylek" 
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 9:25 AM
>> Subject: RE: Amazon Alexa App Problem
>> 
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> The first things I tried were shutting down and restarting my iPhone and 
>> then I tried resetting the phone.  None of this made a difference.  Last 
>> night, I spent a lot of time doing some research on the Internet and trying 
>> a number of solutions that people suggested.  I finally found a post that 
>> recommended turning off and then turning on airplane mode.  I didn't hold 
>> out much hope for this solution but I was getting a bit desperate.  I have 
>> numerous Amazon devices around the house and I didn't want to lose all the 
>> information about these devices stored in the Alexa app.  Surprisingly, 
>> turning off and then turning on airplane mode solved the problem.  I don't 
>> know what airplane mode has to do with the Alexa app but I'm glad to have 
>> things working again.  Thanks.
>> 
>> Take care,
>> Ed Przybylek
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Vicky Collins
>> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 10:18 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Amazon Alexa App Problem
>> 
>> I had the exact same thing happen to me on two of my phones yesterday after 
>> updating the Amazon Shopping app. Uninstalling the app, then doing a reboot, 
>> and then installing the app again solved the problem. And yes, I did have to 
>> sign back into the app as well as fix its notification settings.
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Jennie Facer  
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 10:40 pm
>> Subject: Re: Amazon Alexa App Problem
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Hmm that is strange. Try reinstalling the app maybe? Remember that you 
>>> will have to have your Amazon sign-in info to get back in. You won't lose 
>>> any of your data on Alexa or anything if you do this. Also maybe even 
>>> before that, restart your phone? Is this the only App it is doing thi to?
>>> 
>>> Jenn
>>> 
>>> Jenn and Kumi
>>> 
 On Jun 23, 2021, at 7:34 PM, Edward Przybylek > 
  wrote:
 his
 Hi all,
 
 Tonight I tried to open the Amazon Alexa app to opt out of the Amazon > 
 Sidewalk feature.  I double tapped the app on my home page after which > 
 there was a delay and I was returned back to the home page with focus > 
 still on the Amazon Alexa app.  I opened the app switcher and found the > 
 app listed there.  Double tapping the app, however, simply returned me > 
 to the home page with focus still on the app.  I then tried the same > 
 exercise on my iPod Touch 7 with the exact same results.  Has anyone > 
 else experienced this problem?  If so, were you able to find a solution? > 
 As always, any help is greatly appreciated.  Stay healthy.
 
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Re: Spotify

[Wendy Lin]

I tried uninstalling the app and reinstalling it on my phone on the same day I 
noticed the bug. Still the same results unfortunately. So I guess I have no 
choice but to wait for the next app update.

Wendy

> On Jun 12, 2021, at 9:40 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
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> Strange. I suggest you delete the Spotify app and re-download it. Maybe that 
> will solve your issue.
> 
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>> On Jun 12, 2021, at 5:59 PM, Wendy Lin  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Feliciano,
>> 
>> Yeah that’s what one of my other blind friends have told me. The create 
>> playlist button is still there for him too but he wrote to Spotify support 
>> on behalf of me I guess because he told me that they’re going to fix that in 
>> the next update.
>> 
>> Wendy
>> 
>>> On Jun 9, 2021, at 6:33 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
>>> wrote:
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>>> Hi,
>>> It's still there. Nothing has changed. Once you are in the now playing 
>>> screen, on the top, you have more options. Activate that and then go into 
>>> add to playlist and then there you have the option to create a new 
>>> playlist. from the list screen, you can do a one finger swipe up to find 
>>> more options as well.
>>> 
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>>> who do. -Steve Jobs 
>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 9, 2021, at 2:07 PM, Wendy Lin  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi group,
>>>> 
>>>> Have you guys noticed that there’s no more create playlist button in the 
>>>> Spotify app for iPhone, or maybe it’s just my device? I just noticed that 
>>>> today and the app was last updated on May 27th. I just emailed to the 
>>>> Spotify support team but not sure if that will help and if they will help. 
>>>> Under your library tab and under playlists, I only see a list of all my 
>>>> playlists I’ve created, songs I liked and all the podcasts I’ve listened 
>>>> to, but no create playlist button.
>>>> 
>>>> Wendy
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Re: Spotify

[Wendy Lin]

Hi Feliciano,

Yeah that’s what one of my other blind friends have told me. The create 
playlist button is still there for him too but he wrote to Spotify support on 
behalf of me I guess because he told me that they’re going to fix that in the 
next update.

Wendy

> On Jun 9, 2021, at 6:33 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> It's still there. Nothing has changed. Once you are in the now playing 
> screen, on the top, you have more options. Activate that and then go into add 
> to playlist and then there you have the option to create a new playlist. from 
> the list screen, you can do a one finger swipe up to find more options as 
> well.
> 
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> 
>> On Jun 9, 2021, at 2:07 PM, Wendy Lin  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi group,
>> 
>> Have you guys noticed that there’s no more create playlist button in the 
>> Spotify app for iPhone, or maybe it’s just my device? I just noticed that 
>> today and the app was last updated on May 27th. I just emailed to the 
>> Spotify support team but not sure if that will help and if they will help. 
>> Under your library tab and under playlists, I only see a list of all my 
>> playlists I’ve created, songs I liked and all the podcasts I’ve listened to, 
>> but no create playlist button.
>> 
>> Wendy
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Re: two things, twitter and clubhouse

[Wendy Lin]

I’ve been kicked out of rooms on Clubhouse, but haven’t gotten kicked out of 
the app yet. I’m also having issues adding my Twitter to my Clubhouse profile. 
As for Twitter, yes I’m also having that same issue where I’m not able to see 
all the tweets.


> On Jun 10, 2021, at 4:36 PM, Lelia Struve  wrote:
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> Hi all, first, what's up with twitter? I can't see all of my tweets.  
> As for clubhouse I have two questions.  1 Has anyone had problems trying to 
> add twitter? Also has anyone had problems being kicked out of the app?
> 
> Lelia 
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Spotify

[Wendy Lin]

Hi group,

Have you guys noticed that there’s no more create playlist button in the 
Spotify app for iPhone, or maybe it’s just my device? I just noticed that today 
and the app was last updated on May 27th. I just emailed to the Spotify support 
team but not sure if that will help and if they will help. Under your library 
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songs I liked and all the podcasts I’ve listened to, but no create playlist 
button.

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Re: Problems with latest Twitter

[Wendy Lin]

Hi, I noticed that too! I don’t keep up with the Twitter app updates but I’ve 
noticed that as I’m reading tweets, at a certain point after scrolling down, 
Twitter will jump back up to the top.

Wendy

> On Jun 5, 2021, at 4:41 AM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
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> I’d like to be able to continuously read as long as I want to, but now it 
> only gets so far. When I try to scroll past the part where the vertical line 
> comes up, I think it puts me back at the top .and then I get to where I was 
> originally reading and then the vertical scroll line at the part where it 
> originally won’t let me read past.  Before I could make it let me read for a 
> good while bye I think long pressing on the middle part of the screen, but 
> then, before this latest, I would read and then it would jump me back at the 
> top. I want to read new tweets when I want to read the new ones, not when The 
> system wants me to. Any advice on how to deal with is?
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Re: Uploading video to Instagram using Backpack Studio

[Wendy Lin]

Hello,

Well I normally upload videos to Instagram using my iPhone. I barely really use 
Instagram anywhere else.


> On May 18, 2021, at 8:52 AM, literophi...@myself.com wrote:
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> Hello everyone,
> For the last few days, I’ve been experiencing a problem whenever I try to 
> upload a video to Instagram using Backpack Studio. Sometimes the app crashes, 
> at other times, it is just impossible to upload the video because the 
> progress bar never goes on. I used to do this with no problem, but now it 
> seems mission impossible. I don’t know what is happening, but the kind of the 
> same thing happens with Bossjock JR.
>  
> Is someone else having this problem?
>  
>  
> Best,
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Re: Starbucks App

[Wendy Lin]

I unfortunately don’t have the Starbucks app. I tried downloading it once on my 
phone and tried navigating in the app, I don’t find the accessibility as good 
as the Tim Hortons app.

> On May 10, 2021, at 1:31 PM, Carla  wrote:
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> Is anyone having problems with the Starbucks app?  I keep having to sign in 
> every few times and it's a real pain.  When it works it works well but it 
> keeps locking me out.
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Re: spotify totally broken accessibility in their music share department

[Wendy Lin]

Spotify seems to be working fine on my Mac and iPhone.


> On May 8, 2021, at 9:49 AM, James English  wrote:
> 
> Spotify seems to have decided that the way they did apps in the past
> is no longer good enough for them. The pc app is now worse but still
> can be used.
> 
> On 5/8/21, davycupp...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> Hi folks
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The subject says it all, you can nolonger share music with voiceover, the
>> buttons are unlabled and mostly greyed, sop lease do all report this to
>> spotify and for those who are working with an app version of the previous
>> last 2 or 3 updates that still works properly, please DO NOT UPDATE!
>> 
>> Davy
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Re: Interesting discovery with Voiceover, and the Alex voice

[Wendy Lin]

I use Alex on both my iPhone and Mac. He is the best voice out of all the other 
voices in my opinion. I gave Siri female a try a couple days ago and 24 hours 
later I just couldn’t stand her voice anymore! The way how she pronounces the 
letter B, sounds like she’s saying E.

Wendy

> On Apr 28, 2021, at 11:13 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> If you like Serena, then give Kate a try.  She is also very good.  I
> like Tessa, as well as Lee and sometimes I'll try Oliver.  The Siri
> Irish voices both male and female are also quite good in my opinion.
> I also use Serena quite a bit as well.
> 
> On 4/28/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>> I’d like Alex as my boyfriend too. . I’ve been using Serena since I
>> got this phone in December; have always liked her. I change from time to
>> time.
>> 
>> All the best
>> Angie
>> 
>>> On 27 Apr 2021, at 15:17, Richard Turner 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Alex has had that breathing sound since the beginning when it was on the
>>> Mac as the default voice.
>>> When they brought it to the iPhone, they kept him breathing.
>>> I knew one elderly woman in a retirement center who was losing her vision
>>> and learned how to access her Mac with VoiceOver and from hence forth,
>>> referred to Alex as her boyfriend, with a huge grin.
>>> 
>>> I prefer Alex when he is silent, as in not on my iPhone.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but
>>> what they become by it."
>>> 
>>> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Web site: www.turner42.com 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Robert Doc Wright
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 6:58 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Interesting discovery with Voiceover, and the Alex voice
>>> 
>>> that has always been there..
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Simon A Fogarty 
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 6:09 PM
>>> Subject: RE: Interesting discovery with Voiceover, and the Alex voice
>>> 
>>> Hey that little guy inside the device has to be able to breath as well,
>>> 
>>> If you can hear it though,
>>> Possibly he’s having an asthma attack
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> >> > On Behalf Of Star Gazer
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 27 April 2021 6:31 am
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: RE: Interesting discovery with Voiceover, and the Alex voice
>>> 
>>> I find the breathing pauses in Alex creepy, it’s a f**cking machine not a
>>> person. If it breathes, we have problems.
>>> 
>>> Sent from Mail
>>> 
>>> for Windows 10
>>> 
>>> From: Sieghard Weitzel 
>>> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 12:14 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: RE: Interesting discovery with Voiceover, and the Alex voice
>>> 
>>> Just as with headsets, which voice to use is extremely subjective so you
>>> will always get a lot of different answers. I prefer the female SIRI
>>> voice, of course if I could have Eloquence that would be so fantastic, but
>>> I am afraid it will never happen.
>>> I dislike Alex for the exact reason most who use him as their voice like
>>> him, he sounds or tries to sound "too human" and I really couldn't care
>>> less if my synthesizer can breath or not.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> >> > On Behalf Of Anthony Vece
>>> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 5:19 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: Interesting discovery with Voiceover, and the Alex voice
>>> 
>>> I use the same voice.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>>> 
 On Apr 26, 2021, at 8:11 AM, Arlene >>> > wrote:
 
 Someone was asking which Tom we use, it's Tom enhanced. We really like
 his voice. As I said we use Tom on nvda on the computer. Interestingly
 enough, Tom is used for the automated system for the phone carrier total
 wireless.
 - Original Message - From: "Duane Steele"
 mailto:duanestee...@gmail.com>>
 To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2021 3:17 PM
 Subject: Re: Interesting discovery with Voiceover, and the Alex voice
 
 
 Just an observation. I had used Alex for a while, and went back to
 Samantha. Today, because 

Re: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device

[Wendy Lin]

Actually I seem to be having problems with my email account. I notice after I 
have read and deleted my emails using the Mail app on my Mac, I would have to 
go onto the hotmail site and delete my messages from there. Otherwise on my 
mail app on iPhone, my emails still appear and unread.


> On Apr 16, 2021, at 8:53 AM, Mike B  wrote:
> 
> Good morning Richard,
>  
> Where does one find the delete from server setting in the iPhone Mail app?  
> Running iOS 14.4.2.  I haven't run across this setting and would like to.  
> Thanks much.
>  
>  
> Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
> - Original Message -
> From: Richard Turner 
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 5:37 AM
> Subject: Re: keeping e-mail on my pc and looking at it on an I device
> 
> If your email on the phone is set as iMap, it will not remove them from the 
> server unless you set it to remove from server when you delete it on your 
> phone.
> Easy answer, do your deleting on the computer.
> If your phone is set to use Pop3, you can go into the settings and tell it to 
> leave messages on the server.
> HTH,
> 
> 
> 
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
> 
> www.turner42.com 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 16, 2021, at 5:10 AM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> Hello. I have the mail client set up on my iphone and ipad to share articles 
>> from feeds with my wife. Can I keep it from fetching new mail while still 
>> doing this. I might want to see some messages on my computer where I do most 
>> of my interacting. If not, can I tell the IOS app not to delete the mail 
>> from the server.
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Re: Apple getting cheap

[Wendy Lin]

Lol I don’t know how I’d feel switching over to Samsung myself since I’ve been 
an Apple user for many years.


> On Apr 16, 2021, at 3:24 AM, James English  wrote:
> 
> Hi Simon,
> 
> The things that you've mentioned are not things I think about, because
> for the most part (pandemic, climate change, gun crime) I couldn't
> care less about them. I care about things that'll affect me, and
> having to pay extra money is one of those things.
> 
> On 4/16/21, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>> Good points, there,
>> 
>> Yeah if people are really unhappy about apple dropping the power brick,
>> 
>> Go buy a Samsung,
>> 
>> Oh that's right they 'are dropping the charging bricks form their phones
>> also.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Cristobal Muñoz
>> Sent: Friday, 16 April 2021 3:19 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple getting cheap
>> 
>> Again, I think folks are missing the point. No one's not going to not buy an
>> iPhone over a now no longer included wall charger.
>> It's that Apple's removed this accessory under the guise (and with likely
>> merit) of environmentalism when really, it's a way to cut down on cost from
>> manufacturing, sourcing materials to shipping (in those quantities, the
>> difference adds up quickly) and is still charging the same price. It's not
>> like they're getting out of the wall charger business. I mean, you can still
>> buy one from them. It's just another way for them to nibble around the
>> edges, get some good press and keep the same price. It comes off as chincy
>> from a brand that holds itself up as a luxury and consumer friendly company
>> .
>> But no... people would rather carry on like a scold while again, missing the
>> actual point.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria
>> Campbell
>> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 6:16 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple getting cheap
>> 
>> Stuff it!
>> 
>> 
>> Maria Campbell
>> lucky1i...@gmail.com
>> 
>> All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
>> --Edmund Burke
>> 
>> On 4/15/2021 7:59 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
>>> Yeah cheap,
>>> 
>>> So I'm guessing people didn't listen to tim cook when he said they
>>> were getting rid of the power bricks in the boxes for the devices,
>>> 
>>> It's not about being cheap,
>>> It's more to do with apple trying to get back in to the eco friendly
>>> world and save the planet from excess plastic  that we don't need to
>>> clutter our lives with,
>>> 
>>> Plus the fact that majority of the people around the planet who have
>>> had or have apple mobile devices already have a couple of charging
>>> bricks lying around and therefore those will still do the job they
>>> were made for,
>>> 
>>> So if you have one already,
>>> Why complain about them being left out of the box for a phone or iPad,
>>> 
>>> I really love how these serious first world problems bug you guys so
>>> much,
>>> 
>>> Imagine if we had real problems around the planet like a pendemic
>>> virus and millions dying,
>>> 
>>> But you guys get upset because apple leave a $20 peace of plastic shit out
>>> of a box.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> lenron brown
>>> Sent: Friday, 16 April 2021 7:18 am
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Apple getting cheap
>>> 
>>> I say screw them it's just another way for them to be cheap. Can't for get
>>> the fact that it's a ploy to get you to buy extra chargers, and airpods
>>> when they dropped the headphone jacks, and of course them not putting them
>>> in the box.
>>> 
>>> On 4/15/21, Mary Otten  wrote:
 Apparently others are following an apples lead. I believe I saw where
 Samsung is dropping the chargers as well. It was either them or
 Google with their pixels. Maybe they are being cheap. But we just
 don’t need all this extra crap going out into the environment. I have
 an iPad charger from a really old iPad mini that still works just
 fine. And of course I have a couple of iPhone chargers and a USB see
 power block which I think cost me all of eight bucks. It didn’t exactly
 break the bank.
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Apr 15, 2021, at 10:54 AM, Cristóbal Muñoz
> 
> wrote:
> 
> I mean... I do believe it's a good thing that more plastic and
> accessories like that aren't being put out into the world, but I
> also definitely think that Apple's being cheap. More like a
> convenient and specious excuse for them to remove an item and cut
> the cost of production and logistics and still charge the same under
> the cover of being environmentally conscious.
> Either way though, it's not like not having the charger included is
> going to be a make or break decision for anyone who was thinking of
> buying an iPhone. Just more nickel and 

Re: An S E2020 Question

[Wendy Lin]

I’m ok with setting up my phone when it’s new but I dislike the part where I 
have to keep activating with my thumb.


> On Apr 16, 2021, at 6:50 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I haven’t set up a device from scratch for over a year, but after getting 
> VoiceOver on, the first screen may speak in a different language than what 
> you want, but if you double tap that button, it should orient to your default 
> regions language. From there, It is  a matter of following the prompts.
> You may want to call Apple Accessibility at the beginning stage and get them 
> to help you go through it if you get really stuck, 877-204-3930
>  
> HTH,
>  
> Richard
> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
> they become by it."
> 
> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
> 
>  
> Web site: www.turner42.com 
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Noe 
> Villeda
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 3:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: An S E2020 Question
>  
> Hi Richard,
>  
> Thanks, my biggest concern is knowing how to set it up, right out of the box.
>  
> I’d appreciate it if you have that information.
>  
> Noe
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 6:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: An S E2020 Question
>  
> If you are getting it new from Apple, then powering it on and triple tapping 
> the home button should turn on VoiceOver.
> During the setup you will have a chance to do the wireless transfer from your 
> other phone.  It will pretty much walk you through it but Alan Lemly I think 
> it was posted a good step-by-step guide for doing the wireless transfer.
> If I can find it I will pass it along unless he or someone else does first.
>  
> HTH,
>  
> Richard
> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
> they become by it."
> 
> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
> 
>  
> Web site: www.turner42.com 
> 
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Noe Villeda
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 3:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: An S E2020 Question
>  
> Hello Listers,
>  
> I will soon be upgrading to the S E 2020.
>  
> Does voiceover start just by tapping the home button three times?
>  
> Also, if it, and my current 10R phone are both unlocked, will I be prompted 
> to transfer my data to the new phone, or do I need to set anything on the 
> 2020 for it to start the transfer?
> Also, will it transfer passwords, or will I have to enter them manually?
>  
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Re: signing up for Club House

[Wendy Lin]

Oh that’s very strange. I had the old SE before my 6S. My old SE my mom has it 
now. Maybe when I get a chance I’ll try to ask her for it so that I can try 
Clubhouse on that device for you.

Wendy

> On Apr 16, 2021, at 4:23 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:
> 
> Thank you, but still doesn't work. I suspect it's because I'm using an older 
> SE and not all of the features in IOS work on that phone, even with the 
> latest IOS update. I found that the screen recognition doesn't work with 
> anything on this phone.
> 
> Vicki
> 
> - Original Message - From: 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 3:48 PM
> Subject: RE: signing up for Club House
> 
> 
>> Hi, Vicky,
>> #1. When Clubhouse is open, and you see the thing about Twitter, turn screen 
>> recognition on.
>> #2. Next, swipe down to find the button after the part that asks you to get 
>> the profile from Twitter.
>> You should be able to do it from there.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> "Blindness is not what defines me, but there are many things that do."
>> Jasmine Kotsay, 2007
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki 
>> W.
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 11:58 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: signing up for Club House
>> 
>> Yes, I used the link. I had no problem signing up at all. It's creating my 
>> profile that I can't get beyond without starting a Twitter account.
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Kay Malmquist" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 6:13 AM
>> Subject: Re: signing up for Club House
>> 
>> 
>>> Did you use the link that the person sent to you?  Or when you set the ap
>>> up
>>> did it realize that you had been sent an invite?
>>> 
>>> Kay Malmquist
>>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear"
>>> Author Unknown.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Wendy Lin" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 6:41 AM
>>> Subject: Re: signing up for Club House
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi all, based on my understanding I think we have to be invited by our
>>> friends who already have Clubhouse in order to sign up for Clubhouse. At
>>> least that's how it was with me. After I had entered the information that
>>> was required to get on the platform, it took a few minutes for the
>>> activation and then I was able to go through the rooms and everything.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 13, 2021, at 6:08 PM, Ray Wright  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
>>>> I have the same problem. I cannot sign up without going through
>>>> Twitter. I had another friend that is having the same problem. I am
>>>> using the original Iphone SE and so is my friend. We are running the
>>>> latest IOS and the updated Clubhouse app.Do you think it's because
>>>> we're using older phones? Any thoughts or suggestions?
>>>> 
>>>> Ray
>>>> 
>>>> On 4/13/21, Dana Leet  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> No, you do not have to put your Twitter information in to sign up for
>>>>> clubhouse I did not initially have mine in there until later on. If you
>>>>> are
>>>>> on clubhouse come by my room sometime
>>>>> 
>>>>> Attention all lovers of Christian fiction. Join me every Thursday
>>>>> evening
>>>>> at
>>>>> 9 PM Eastern on clubhouse for the Christian fiction book club. Follow me
>>>>> on
>>>>> clubhouse at my name dana Leet and if you need a clubhouse invite
>>>>> message
>>>>> me
>>>>> and I will see what I can do
>>>>> Follow this link to join the club
>>>>> https://www.joinclubhouse.com/club/danas-diner
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 13, 2021, at 2:10 PM, Diane Giannetti 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ?Hi Vicki. You do not have to sign up with Twitter. If you go a little
>>>>>> further they should be to enter it manually.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Apr 13, 2021, at 12:59 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>

Re: signing up for Club House

[Wendy Lin]

I installed the app and signed up for clubhouse. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 14, 2021, at 9:13 AM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
> 
> Did you use the link that the person sent to you?  Or when you set the ap up 
> did it realize that you had been sent an invite?
> 
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
> 
> "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear"
> Author Unknown.
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> From: "Wendy Lin" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 6:41 AM
> Subject: Re: signing up for Club House
> 
> 
> Hi all, based on my understanding I think we have to be invited by our 
> friends who already have Clubhouse in order to sign up for Clubhouse. At 
> least that's how it was with me. After I had entered the information that 
> was required to get on the platform, it took a few minutes for the 
> activation and then I was able to go through the rooms and everything.
> 
> 
>> On Apr 13, 2021, at 6:08 PM, Ray Wright  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I have the same problem. I cannot sign up without going through
>> Twitter. I had another friend that is having the same problem. I am
>> using the original Iphone SE and so is my friend. We are running the
>> latest IOS and the updated Clubhouse app.Do you think it's because
>> we're using older phones? Any thoughts or suggestions?
>> 
>> Ray
>> 
>>> On 4/13/21, Dana Leet  wrote:
>>> 
>>> No, you do not have to put your Twitter information in to sign up for
>>> clubhouse I did not initially have mine in there until later on. If you 
>>> are
>>> on clubhouse come by my room sometime
>>> 
>>> Attention all lovers of Christian fiction. Join me every Thursday evening 
>>> at
>>> 9 PM Eastern on clubhouse for the Christian fiction book club. Follow me 
>>> on
>>> clubhouse at my name dana Leet and if you need a clubhouse invite message 
>>> me
>>> and I will see what I can do
>>> Follow this link to join the club
>>> https://www.joinclubhouse.com/club/danas-diner
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 13, 2021, at 2:10 PM, Diane Giannetti 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?Hi Vicki. You do not have to sign up with Twitter. If you go a little
>>>> further they should be to enter it manually.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 13, 2021, at 12:59 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>> ?
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm in the process of signing up for Club House. I did the most recent
>>>>> update a few days ago and tried signing up this morning.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I entered my phone number and agreed to their terms and then came to a
>>>>> screen that wanted me to use Twitter to set up my profile. I don't have 
>>>>> a
>>>>> Twitter account and I don't especially want one. There are no other
>>>>> options, no button or link to skip, no other way to set up the profile
>>>>> and I can't get beyond this screen.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Does anyone have an idea or two as to how to set up the profile or what 
>>>>> I
>>>>> might be missing on my screen?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Vicki
>>>>> 
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Re: signing up for Club House

[Wendy Lin]

Hi all, based on my understanding I think we have to be invited by our friends 
who already have Clubhouse in order to sign up for Clubhouse. At least that’s 
how it was with me. After I had entered the information that was required to 
get on the platform, it took a few minutes for the activation and then I was 
able to go through the rooms and everything.


> On Apr 13, 2021, at 6:08 PM, Ray Wright  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I have the same problem. I cannot sign up without going through
> Twitter. I had another friend that is having the same problem. I am
> using the original Iphone SE and so is my friend. We are running the
> latest IOS and the updated Clubhouse app.Do you think it's because
> we're using older phones? Any thoughts or suggestions?
> 
> Ray
> 
> On 4/13/21, Dana Leet  wrote:
>> 
>> No, you do not have to put your Twitter information in to sign up for
>> clubhouse I did not initially have mine in there until later on. If you are
>> on clubhouse come by my room sometime
>> 
>> Attention all lovers of Christian fiction. Join me every Thursday evening at
>> 9 PM Eastern on clubhouse for the Christian fiction book club. Follow me on
>> clubhouse at my name dana Leet and if you need a clubhouse invite message me
>> and I will see what I can do
>> Follow this link to join the club
>> https://www.joinclubhouse.com/club/danas-diner
>> 
>>> On Apr 13, 2021, at 2:10 PM, Diane Giannetti 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Vicki. You do not have to sign up with Twitter. If you go a little
>>> further they should be to enter it manually.
>>> 
>>> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
>>> 
> On Apr 13, 2021, at 12:59 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:
> 
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm in the process of signing up for Club House. I did the most recent
 update a few days ago and tried signing up this morning.
 
 I entered my phone number and agreed to their terms and then came to a
 screen that wanted me to use Twitter to set up my profile. I don't have a
 Twitter account and I don't especially want one. There are no other
 options, no button or link to skip, no other way to set up the profile
 and I can't get beyond this screen.
 
 Does anyone have an idea or two as to how to set up the profile or what I
 might be missing on my screen?
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: Money reader

[Wendy Lin]

Seeing AI is a great app! I use it from time to time when I need to scan any 
print things.


> On Apr 1, 2021, at 8:07 AM, Tom Rash  wrote:
> 
> I ALSO FOUND THAT Seeing AI has a very quick and accurate response.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Ken
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 4:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Money reader
>  
> I use the money reader, on SeeingAI, it seems very accurate.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 7:11 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Money reader
>  
> The only issue with cash reader, if it is the one I am thinking it is, it has 
> either a subscription, or a lifetime charge of about $18. 
> Unless you need non-US currency, there is no benifit to paying for Cash 
> Reader.
> If it is a different app, please send either the developer or an app store 
> link.
> Thanks
>  
> 
>  
> Richard 
> "
> great minds discuss ideas
> , 
> average minds discuss events
> , 
> small minds discuss people
> ." 
> --
> Eleanor Roosevelt
>  
>  
> www.turner42.com 
>  
>  
> 
>> On Mar 31, 2021, at 3:24 PM, Duane Steele > > wrote:
>> 
>>  Regarding moneyReader, it's my understanding that it's no longer supported 
>> in the APP store. I found it worthwhile to use CashReader which is 
>> supported. However, if EyeNote is free and works, all good. 
>>  
>> 
>> Peace & Blessings, 
>> Pastor Duane L. Steele
>> Phone (276) 730-5194
>>  
>> 
>>> On Mar 31, 2021, at 6:07 PM, Larry Lumpkin >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Is it Inote or Ibill?
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From:viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> >> > On Behalf Of Esther
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 4:07 PM
>>> To:viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: Money reader
>>>  
>>> I use EyeNote and like it very much.  The speech is a bit slow, but I can 
>>> deal with that.
>>>  
>>> Esther
>>> 
>>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 31, 2021, at 10:50 AM, brian albriton >>> > wrote:
 
 Matt mobile MoneyReader no longer in App Store. There’s a few other 
 options out there. What do you folks recommend ?
 
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Re: new phone

[Wendy Lin]

I’ve felt the SE 2020 last time I went to the Apple store and it isn’t bad. 
That will probably be one of my next phone choices when my 6S stops working.

Wendy

> On Apr 1, 2021, at 11:54 AM, Sharon Morton  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for all your advice. I am going with the SE. Rodgers gave me a great 
> deal.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
> Hendrickson
> Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 11:16 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new phone
> 
> I have my phone set to not lock because I don't want to have to keep 
> unlocking it.  I want to control whether my phone is locked or not myself.
> 
> On 4/1/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> Right about unlocked screen. I have mine set on no automatic, so have 
>> to be vigilant. I charge mine every other day most of the time.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 8:54 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: new phone
>> 
>> I'm looking forward to when I get my new iPhone to see if a newer 
>> battery will work for me better then my 8.  I usually charge the 
>> battery once per day.  If I'm not using my iPhone but still have it 
>> on, I find that if I lock my iPhone the battery stays charged better.
>> If I leave my iPhone unlocked the battery drains rather quickly.
>> 
>> On 3/31/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>> Goodness, I think I am spoiled to my 11's battery.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of l.d.ethie...@gmail.com
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 7:04 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: new phone
>>> 
>>> Agree
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Lyne
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Le 31 mars 2021 à 14:33, Brad Snyder  a écrit :
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The SE 2020 is a nice phone, but it's a bottom of the line phone 
>>> with low end components. The battery in the SE 2020 definitely does 
>>> not have the same capacity as the higher end iPhone 11.
>>> This is the trade-off you make by going with the lower-priced phone.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> On Mar 31, 2021, at 12:54, Richard Turner 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I’m not sure what you mean here.
>>> 
>>> You said concerning battery “I have SE 2020 and 11 for work and it's 
>>> not comparable...”
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> What isn’t comparable?
>>> 
>>> I know the 11 has a larger battery, but I use my SE 2020 a lot 
>>> during the day and if I have to charge it at night I do, but I often 
>>> get a full day’s use and often don’t need to charge it until the second day.
>>> 
>>> I play a couple simple games, do lots of email, web searching, 
>>> listening to books, etc.
>>> 
>>> Or are you saying they are both way better than the iPhone X’s then 
>>> yes, they are.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
>>> object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My web site, www.turner42.com 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of l.d.ethie...@gmail.com
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 10:48 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: new phone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> my opinion is not also positive if we think about battery. I have SE
>>> 2020 and 11 for work and it's not comparable...
>>> 
>>> Lyne
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Le 31 mars 2021 à 13:23, Brad Snyder >>  > a écrit :
>>> 
>>> I’ve never heard of a "10 XP”.  Perhaps you are meaning the 
>>> iPhone 
>>> XR, which is already several iterations old, and I don’t recommend 
>>> getting this one.
>>> 
>>> The iPhone SE 2020 is a solid choice.  My wife has one, and I 
>>> say 
>>> you can’t go wrong with this choice, if you want to go with a basic 
>>> iPhone that still uses a Home button.
>>> 
>>> As Richard pointed out, the SE 2020 is the same size as the 
>>> iPhone 
>>> 7 and 8, and your 6S as well, though a case for the older models 
>>> won’t fit the newer SE 2020 correctly, because the camera bump is 
>>> slightly larger on the newer SE 2020.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> HTH.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 31, 2021, at 10:12, Sharon Morton >>  > wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello, I am coming to the end of a contract with Virgin, and my 
>>> 6S.
>>> I have been offered a deal with Rogers for an 10 XP. I would like to 
>>> know what your opinion is 

Re: an accessible driving game

[Wendy Lin]

Thanks for your help guys.


> On Mar 17, 2021, at 2:46 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> 
> I have heard of Blindfold games, but not Blindfold RS games.  I have heard of 
> RS Games, but that is a different platform.
>  
> Andy
>  
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Wendy Lin <mailto:wendy9...@hotmail.com>
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 11:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: an accessible driving game
>> 
>> Speaking of games, does anybody know what happened to Blindfold RS Games? A 
>> friend of mine wants the iPhone app and I tried searching in the App Store 
>> for Blindfold RS Games to send the link to him. It showed me a list of other 
>> things like Game World, Blindfold games but not Blindfold RS Games. If any 
>> of you are able to find the app in the App Store can you please email me 
>> privately with the link to the app?
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> Wendy
>> 
>>> On Mar 15, 2021, at 9:06 PM, Mich Verrier >> <mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It is a lot of fun search for Blind Drive from mich
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 15, 2021, at 9:05 PM, Paul JOrdan >>> <mailto:pau...@roadrunner.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sounds like fun! I want to go to the app store, to search for it by name 
>>>> so, what is the name of the game? Thanks.
>>>> God bless!
>>>> Paula and the pups
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CJ & AA MAY
>>>> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 4:00 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Subject: RE: an accessible driving game
>>>> Below I am posting part of an e-mail about an accessible driving game. I 
>>>> found it a little fiddly initially to set up but it promises to be great 
>>>> fun:
>>>> Subject: A driving game!
>>>> Below is a link to a fantastic driving game. 
>>>> this is a fun and great audio game and it is so so immersive, you 
>>>> absolutely feel you are in that car!are not left out of the loop, it is a 
>>>> game where the storyline is built on the fact that you are driving blind 
>>>> with a blindfold on, and is played purely using your ears. It has a good 
>>>> bit of dark humour in it and great fun when you crash   , with messages 
>>>> like perhaps you’d have better luck on the lawnmower!
>>>> https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/blind-drive/id964294239 
>>>> <https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/blind-drive/id964294239>
>>>> Alison
>>>> From:viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
>>>> Sent: 15 March 2021 03:38
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Subject: RE: Masks & Face ID
>>>> It’s not rediculis, it’s fact,
>>>> We handled things better than a lot of countrys and we celebrate the fact 
>>>> that we have little if not any current cases of covid,
>>>> It’s not our fault that some countrys leadership ignored the issues of 
>>>> this virus,
>>>> It’s like the saying,
>>>> Kbolting the gate after the horse has bolted,
>>>> May be you should point at your countries leadership and ask why they 
>>>> didn’t do more to keep you safe from this virus,
>>>> Plus we only have 5 million population,
>>>> And incoming international traffic through 2 major centres,
>>>> It’s easier to lock our country down than it is others,
>>>> But it’s  also a benefit that our entire countries behind the keeping the 
>>>> virus out.
>>>> May be other countrys should take a look at how we and a couple of other 
>>>> countrys 
>>>> Have treated this globle situation,
>>>> From:viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Marco Curralejo
>>>> Sent: Monday, 15 March 2021 1:06 pm
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Subject: RE: Masks & Face ID
>>>> I’m sorry and I appreciate this topic is somewhat divisive, but when 

Re: BlindSquare Crashing?

[Wendy Lin]

I don’t use blind square but I use another GPS app called we walk

> On Mar 16, 2021, at 4:50 PM, Deb Cook Lewis  wrote:
> 
> The most recent update was two months ago according to the Appstore. So if 
> not, this means it just stopped. 
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 1:46 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: BlindSquare Crashing?
>  
> I haven’t gotten any traffic on the blindsquare list for maybe years. I’m not 
> even sure it’s still under development.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Deb Cook Lewis
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 3:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: BlindSquare Crashing?
>  
> I don’t always follow this list as closely as I should, but I don’t recall 
> reading about this. 
> I haven’t used blindSquare in about a week but last time I did it was fine. 
> Today I went to use it, and it opens but immediately closes. I did not have 
> the latest phone update yet so I did that and there was no update posted for 
> BS. Even after the update, and another reboot for good measure, it’s still 
> crashing. Is that current behavior for it or is something wrong on my end?
>  
> Thanks!!
> Deb
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Re: Turning /camera on While in Zoom?

[Wendy Lin]

I’ve been considering installing Zoom on my Mac but I’m getting a message 
saying that the app requires a lot of my memory on my computer, and it wouldn’t 
proceed to download for some strange reason.

> On Mar 14, 2021, at 6:01 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> If not in a meeting, you can go into your settings and set it to start a 
> meeting with the camera on, then you won’t have to worry about it.
> But, yes, on an iPad, the button is likely across the top.
> Many apps that have the button along the bottom on an iPhone, have them 
> across the top on an iPad.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com 
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Shirley Baker
> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2021 2:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Turning /camera on While in Zoom?
>  
> And do you need to be in a meeting to turn the camera on? I am using an iPad 
> Pro and I just haven’t been able to find it yet.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Mar 14, 2021, at 3:06 PM, Brad Snyder  > wrote:
> 
> On the iPhone Zoom app, the button reads, “Start My Video.”
> It is located along the bottom of the screen, second button from the left 
> edge.
> On the iPad, I believe this button is located near the top of the screen, 
> next to the Mute button.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
>  
> On Mar 14, 2021, at 14:58, Richard Turner  > wrote:
>  
> If you are on a windows computer, alt+v toggles the camera.
> On a Mac, I believe it is command+v.
> On the iPhone/iPad, if you start at the very bottom right of the screen on 
> the more button and flick left with one finger you will get a button after a 
> few flicks that says something like turn on my video... Double tap, and you 
> are on camera.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
> 
> 
> My web site, www.turner42.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Shirley Baker
> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2021 12:53 PM
> To: Vip Home mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: Turning /camera on While in Zoom?
> 
> If you're in a zoom meeting with all sighted people except two people, how do 
> you turn the camera on so they can see you?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Apologies [was "RE: Masks & Face ID"]

[Wendy Lin]

; <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Marco Curralejo
> Sent: Monday, 15 March 2021 1:06 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Masks & Face ID
>  
> I’m sorry and I appreciate this topic is somewhat divisive, but when you get 
> a ridiculous post from anywhere regarding this matter, the list owner should 
> really pull the reigns on this one and not allow such an idiotic post to even 
> get on to the list.
>  
> That’s all I have to say with regards to this stupidity.
>  
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> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Nimer Jaber
> Sent: Saturday, 13 March 2021 4:35 PM
> To: Viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: Re: Masks & Face ID
>  
> Posts like the below by Simon are dangerous, and should not be permitted on 
> list. That's all I have to say on this topic.
>  
> On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 9:33 PM Simon A Fogarty  <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
> Why do you need to wear face masks?
> 
> I have yet to buy or own a face mask and haven't worn one in the year that 
> we've dealt with face masks,
> 
>  Don't even know anyone that has worn one,
> 
> Guess its one of the great things about living in the nation of New Zealand!
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Saturday, 13 March 2021 4:38 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Masks & Face ID
> 
> A doctor from Jons Hopkins says that Covid will be mostly gone by April so 
> the necessity to wear face masks will be ending soon.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/12/21, Maria Reyes  <mailto:sassyblindg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > yeah it'll be interesting to see how that new feature works.
> >
> > want to talk about all aspects of blindness? Join the blind chatroom 
> > list by sending an email to blind-chatroom-requ...@freelists.org 
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> > subscribe in the subject
> >
> >> On Mar 11, 2021, at 10:07 PM, Wendy Lin  >> <mailto:wendy9...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>  Hi All,
> >>
> >> Well based on the Youtube videos I’ve watched from Apple Insider and 
> >> 9to5 Mac, the Face ID feature with the masks will only work to unlock 
> >> your phone if you have an Apple Watch.
> >>
> >> Wendy
> >>
> >>> On Mar 11, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Simon A Fogarty  >>> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Richard,
> >>>
> >>> IOS 14 also allows you to have an alternate face in your face id 
> >>> settings,
> >>>
> >>> So in a way you can have both faces in there.
> >>>
> >>> If you have two faces that is.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> >>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf
> >>> Of Richard Turner
> >>> Sent: Friday, 12 March 2021 4:46 am
> >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> >>> Subject: RE: Masks & Face ID
> >>>
> >>> You can only have one face, but apparently it looks like iOS 14.5 
> >>> will allow for masks during face ID.  Not sure how that will work, 
> >>> but those who have a phone with face ID can find out once 14.5 is 
> >>> released.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Richard
> >>>
> >>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
> >>> object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> My web site, www.turner42.com <http://www.turner42.com/>

Re: test

[Wendy Lin]

Your test is clear.

> On Mar 15, 2021, at 8:52 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Kay,
>  
> Yeah I’m seeing it there.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
> Malmquist
> Sent: Tuesday, 16 March 2021 1:47 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: test
>  
> Could someone tell me if this came through to the list?
> 
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com 
>  
> "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear"
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Re: an accessible driving game

[Wendy Lin]

 PM
>> To: Viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
>> Subject: Re: Masks & Face ID
>>  
>> Posts like the below by Simon are dangerous, and should not be permitted on 
>> list. That's all I have to say on this topic.
>>  
>> On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 9:33 PM Simon A Fogarty > <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
>> Why do you need to wear face masks?
>> 
>> I have yet to buy or own a face mask and haven't worn one in the year that 
>> we've dealt with face masks,
>> 
>>  Don't even know anyone that has worn one,
>> 
>> Guess its one of the great things about living in the nation of New Zealand!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
>> Sent: Saturday, 13 March 2021 4:38 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: Masks & Face ID
>> 
>> A doctor from Jons Hopkins says that Covid will be mostly gone by April so 
>> the necessity to wear face masks will be ending soon.
>> 
>> Kelly
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 3/12/21, Maria Reyes > <mailto:sassyblindg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> > yeah it'll be interesting to see how that new feature works.
>> >
>> > want to talk about all aspects of blindness? Join the blind chatroom 
>> > list by sending an email to blind-chatroom-requ...@freelists.org 
>> > <mailto:blind-chatroom-requ...@freelists.org> with 
>> > subscribe in the subject
>> >
>> >> On Mar 11, 2021, at 10:07 PM, Wendy Lin > >> <mailto:wendy9...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>  Hi All,
>> >>
>> >> Well based on the Youtube videos I’ve watched from Apple Insider and 
>> >> 9to5 Mac, the Face ID feature with the masks will only work to unlock 
>> >> your phone if you have an Apple Watch.
>> >>
>> >> Wendy
>> >>
>> >>> On Mar 11, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Simon A Fogarty > >>> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi Richard,
>> >>>
>> >>> IOS 14 also allows you to have an alternate face in your face id 
>> >>> settings,
>> >>>
>> >>> So in a way you can have both faces in there.
>> >>>
>> >>> If you have two faces that is.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> >>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> >>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
>> >>> Of Richard Turner
>> >>> Sent: Friday, 12 March 2021 4:46 am
>> >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> >>> Subject: RE: Masks & Face ID
>> >>>
>> >>> You can only have one face, but apparently it looks like iOS 14.5 
>> >>> will allow for masks during face ID.  Not sure how that will work, 
>> >>> but those who have a phone with face ID can find out once 14.5 is 
>> >>> released.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Richard
>> >>>
>> >>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
>> >>> object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> My web site, www.turner42.com <http://www.turner42.com/>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> >>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> >>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
>> >>> Of sherrywells1...@gmail.com <mailto:sherrywells1...@gmail.com>
>> >>> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 7:44 AM
>> >>> To: 'VIPhone' > >>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
>> >>> Subject: Masks & Face ID
>> >>>
>> >>> I have an IPhone 8 so still use touch id.  When you set that up you 
>> >>> can set it up for more than one finger.  With face id, can you set 
>> >>> it up with more than one face?  If so, you could have both masked & 
>> >>> unmasked faces for use in unlocking the phone.  I’m guessing this 
>> >>> isn’t possible or one of you would have

Re: Apple Event Rumored for March 23, iMac Pro Discontinued, and More

[Wendy Lin]

Lol thanks for sharing! It’s funny because I got an email from Mac Rumours with 
the same article.

> On Mar 11, 2021, at 5:16 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Morning world,
> Hey I thought this might have some interest for some,
>  
> Both the event for a couple of weeks away,
>  
> And if you are diabetic,
> Check out the rumours on the apple watch 7.
>  
>  
>  
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> Next Apple Event Rumored for March 23 
> 
> March is a common month of the year for Apple to announce new or updated 
> products, and this year will likely be no exception.
> 
> A reliable Chinese leaker known as "Kang" this week said an Apple Event is 
> planned for Tuesday, March 23 
> ,
>  with potential new products including Apple'slong-awaited AirTags 
> 
>  item trackers, a new iPad Pro with a Mini-LED display 
> ,
>  third-generation AirPods 
> ,
>  and a new Apple TV. A wildcard possibility is a redesigned iMac with an 
> Apple silicon chip.
> 
> If the rumor is accurate, Apple should officially announce the event early 
> next week. Due to the ongoing pandemic, the event will surely be another 
> virtual affair with a prerecorded video from Apple Park.
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Re: thinking of up grading phones

[Wendy Lin]

Whatever works. Everyone has their own preference how they like to unlock their 
phones.

> On Mar 11, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> And with Face Id you simply look at yoru phone instead of putting your finger 
> on the home button, as others pointed out, it's just as easy and seamless and 
> in some cases it works even better in others not. It seems there is a pretty 
> high probability that this Fall's iPhone will have both which would of course 
> be great.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
> Hendrickson
> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 5:38 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: thinking of up grading phones
> 
> The nice thing is, you don't have to use face ID if you don't want to.
> I remember a while ago, I talked to someone at apple accessibility.
> They were very helpful, and told me, that if you didn't want to use face ID, 
> you could use your pass-code instead.  If the iPhone 13 doesn't have a touch 
> ID option, that's what I'm going to do.  I'm glad if I don't want to use 
> faceID I don't have to.  I do like touch ID a lot, though, because if I want 
> to purchase an app, all I have to do, is just put my thumb on the home 
> button.  My phone makes a little ding, and I've purchased my app.  Its very 
> easy.
> 
> On 3/10/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> The people I have worked with had the biggest learning curve with the 
>> Face ID since there is no  touch ID.
>> It isn't that hard, but if your 8 is working fine, you may want to 
>> wait until we hear more details on what the iPhone 13 has to offer this fall.
>> Rumor has it that it may contain both touch ID and Face ID.
>> But, if you really need to upgrade sooner, you will probably find good 
>> deals on the 11.
>> Check with your carrier if you are thinking about the 12 since some 
>> carriers charge more for 5 g service, even if they do not currently 
>> offer it since that is part of the iPhone 12.
>> HTH,
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in 
>> a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of 
>> asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my 
>> mother told me when I was young."
>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>> 
>> On Mar 10, 2021, at 2:09 AM, Christopher Chaltain 
>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> No there isn’t. I went from an iPhone 7 and a Galaxy S7, both of which 
>> have home buttons, to a iPhone 11, which doesn’t have a home button, 
>> and it didn’t take long at all to pick up. You just swipe up from the 
>> bottom of the screen to get to the home page or bring up the app 
>> switcher. You also use the other physical buttons to do things like 
>> toggle voiceOver on and off or reset the phone.
>> 
>> --
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>> Chaltain at Outlook
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Ken
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 3:00 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: thinking of up grading phones
>> 
>> Hi, I am still using an iphone 8, is there much of a learning curve, 
>> too using a phone without the home key? Am wanting to upgrade.
>> Kenny
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Re: Masks & Face ID

[Wendy Lin]

Hi All,

Well based on the Youtube videos I’ve watched from Apple Insider and 9to5 Mac, 
the Face ID feature with the masks will only work to unlock your phone if you 
have an Apple Watch.

Wendy

> On Mar 11, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard,
>  
> IOS 14 also allows you to have an alternate face in your face id settings,
>  
> So in a way you can have both faces in there.
>  
> If you have two faces that is.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Friday, 12 March 2021 4:46 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Masks & Face ID
>  
> You can only have one face, but apparently it looks like iOS 14.5 will allow 
> for masks during face ID.  Not sure how that will work, but those who have a 
> phone with face ID can find out once 14.5 is released.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com 
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of sherrywells1...@gmail.com 
> 
> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 7:44 AM
> To: 'VIPhone' mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: Masks & Face ID
>  
> I have an IPhone 8 so still use touch id.  When you set that up you can set 
> it up for more than one finger.  With face id, can you set it up with more 
> than one face?  If so, you could have both masked & unmasked faces for use in 
> unlocking the phone.  I’m guessing this isn’t possible or one of you would 
> have done it.  I’m just curious though since it would make sense to allow 
> more than one face just as it does to allow more than one finger.
>  
> Sherry Wells
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Re: thinking of up grading phones

[Wendy Lin]

I have a friend who has the iPhone 12 mini and encourages me to get one in my 
next phone upgrade. I guess I’ll have to get used to the new way of home button 
lol. And actually I’ve gotten used to Facebook not having the back button. It 
sure is annoying for a lot of blind users but double tapping on newsfeed if 
we’re scrolling in our newsfeeds, brings us back to the list of postings and 
same applies for the notifications.

> On Mar 10, 2021, at 11:06 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I recently upgraded to an iPhone 12 Pro and I can say that getting used to 
> the absence of a Home button isn’t a big deal, although I do sometimes have 
> trouble swiping down from the top of the screen to get into Control Center or 
> Notifications. So, to get around that difficulty I set up Back Tap so that a 
> single-finger double-tap gets me into Control Center and a single-finger 
> triple tap gets me into Notifications. Works great. Also, in the Facebook app 
> or any place where I can’t find the Back button, I’ve set it up so that a 
> two-finger quadruple  tap works like the scrub gesture, which has always been 
> problematic for me.
> As a side note, I do like Face ID. 
> 
> Tom
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2021, at 3:53 PM, Simon A Fogarty > > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>>  
>> It really depends on the person,
>>  
>> But generally no,
>>  
>> I’d personally suggest going to your local retailer and have a look / play 
>> with an iPhone with no home button,
>>  
>> But generally it’s pretty easy,
>>  
>> However,
>> I do find myself tapping the screen on my se to unlock it, when I need to 
>> press the home button to wake it up.
>>  
>> That’s however what you get when you have both an 11 and an se 2nd edition.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> > > On Behalf Of Ken
>> Sent: Wednesday, 10 March 2021 10:00 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: thinking of up grading phones
>>  
>> Hi, I am still using an iphone 8, is there much of a learning curve, too 
>> using a phone without the home key? Am wanting to upgrade.
>> Kenny
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Re: thinking of up grading phones

[Wendy Lin]

I’ve always stuck to passcode. I don’t see the use of Face ID since I’m blind, 
and my degstarity is not the greatest for Touch ID.

Wendy

> On Mar 10, 2021, at 8:43 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> No reason to wait. Face ID is seamless and superior to touch ID.
> You won't regret making the upgrade. Don't  waste your time or money on the 
> iPhone 11, 5G is the future.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Mar 10, 2021, at 06:18, Richard Turner  > wrote:
> 
>  The people I have worked with had the biggest learning curve with the Face 
> ID since there is no  touch ID.
> It isn't that hard, but if your 8 is working fine, you may want to wait until 
> we hear more details on what the iPhone 13 has to offer this fall. Rumor has 
> it that it may contain both touch ID and Face ID.
> But, if you really need to upgrade sooner, you will probably find good deals 
> on the 11.
> Check with your carrier if you are thinking about the 12 since some carriers 
> charge more for 5 g service, even if they do not currently offer it since 
> that is part of the iPhone 12.
> HTH,
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2021, at 2:09 AM, Christopher Chaltain > > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> No there isn’t. I went from an iPhone 7 and a Galaxy S7, both of which have 
>> home buttons, to a iPhone 11, which doesn’t have a home button, and it 
>> didn’t take long at all to pick up. You just swipe up from the bottom of the 
>> screen to get to the home page or bring up the app switcher. You also use 
>> the other physical buttons to do things like toggle voiceOver on and off or 
>> reset the phone.
>>  
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>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> > > On Behalf Of Ken
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 3:00 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: thinking of up grading phones
>>  
>> Hi, I am still using an iphone 8, is there much of a learning curve, too 
>> using a phone without the home key? Am wanting to upgrade.
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Re: List Spammer Has Been Banned: A Quick Note

[Wendy Lin]

Lol thanks for booting him off. I wasn’t sure what everyone was going on about 
with that whole Frank situation until I saw all the messages in my junk folder 
hahahaha!

Wendy

> On Mar 9, 2021, at 10:26 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> That's the point Mark,
> Glad I got there.
> 
> Thanks for the kick off though.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
> Taylor
> Sent: Wednesday, 10 March 2021 3:34 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: List Spammer Has Been Banned: A Quick Note
> 
> Hi Simon,
> 
> Okay, you made me smile!!!  Thank you.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Monday, March 08, 2021 11:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: List Spammer Has Been Banned: A Quick Note
> 
> Hey Mark,
> Thanks for dealing with it as quickly as you did,
> 
> Next time though can you read your mail quicker!
> 
> 
> It's not like your busy or anything!
> 
> LOL. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
> Taylor
> Sent: Tuesday, 9 March 2021 7:23 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: List Spammer Has Been Banned: A Quick Note
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Okay, I have just banned the guy named Frank from the goup.
> 
> I apologize for the delay in responding to this problem but please understand 
> that, between my developer communities, charity efforts, support forums, 
> private correspondence, etc., I get thousands (I am not
> exaggerating) of emails a week, that I have to view, and, consequently, some 
> get past my attention threshold.  
> 
> So, should any of you need to get my attention on a particular post, don't 
> just forward the post to me; instead, at the beginning of the subject line of 
> the forwarded post, in front of the "FW:" type in something like, "Mark!
> This is (name), Please Read This!" or something like that; okay?  Otherwise 
> the forwarded message may be buried in a long thread and I will not see it as 
> the only way I can reliably stay on top of my email Inbox is to view messages 
> in threads, not as separate email messages.
> 
> Thanks to Christopher for forwarding the offending post, a second time, so 
> that I could act upon it.
> 
> Your brother on the Journey,
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