RE: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued
I have to agree. In 2022 both screen readers should have the same features. They don’t. Both screen readers should fully support keyboard users they don’t. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Devin Prater Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 3:26 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued Google's TalkBack is open source too, and that hasn't helped them much. Devin Prater r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 2:23 PM Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote: It is only useful if you have Headphones that allow you to hear your surroundings since it is in stereo and intended to help identify places in relation to where you are. I don’t know how many countries it worked in. And, they are not just "abandoning it" as some have said. They are making it open source; so anyone who wants to can further develop it. Richard, USA. “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 12:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued I doubt Seeing AI will follow this example, it seemed to me that Microsoft Soundscape was more of an experiment and I assume it is by far the less popular if you compared it to Seeing AI. I have it downloaded as well and maybe I should try to use it again more, but I never found it that useful. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Gordon Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 10:57 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued I just got an update and in the release notes it said that it's being discontinued in January but that if you already have it installed on your phone you can use it through June. I hope that seeing AI doesn't go to. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/c9788c90-7d69-fb31-dab6-069796831a29%40gordonradio.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/DS0PR10MB62458FC9BFC73BFE01C95C4FC7E29%40DS0PR10MB6245.namprd10.prod.outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at c
Re: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued
Exactly! Sent from my iPhone On 13 Dec 2022, at 17:21, Andy Baracco wrote: I thought it was fun, but it always seemed to me like a beta, not really ready for prime time. I wouldn't ever want to totally rely on it. Andy - Original Message - From: CJ & AA MAY<mailto:chrisalis...@gmail.com> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 11:49 PM Subject: RE: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued I didn’t use this app regularly, but it got me out of a couple of sticky situations where I found myself lost. Alison From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of tai.toma...@gmail.com<mailto:tai.toma...@gmail.com> Sent: 12 December 2022 20:32 To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued Same here, I really enjoyed this app. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Lisa Belville Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 3:26 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued That is too bad. I know what streets are in my neighborhood, and I like to just turn on MS Soundscapes and have it announce the streets as I cross them. I have a beacon set up for my house. I also liked the virtual street preview. I have Google maps, and of course there's apple maps, but what other very basic GPS is out there for those of us who just need to know where we are and not necessarily plan routes for everything. Lisa Lisa Belville missktlab1...@frontier.com<mailto:missktlab1...@frontier.com> On 12/12/2022 2:14 PM, Devin Prater wrote: Then again I never thought they'd just give up on Sounscape either. Devin Prater r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com<mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 2:12 PM Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: I doubt Seeing AI will follow this example, it seemed to me that Microsoft Soundscape was more of an experiment and I assume it is by far the less popular if you compared it to Seeing AI. I have it downloaded as well and maybe I should try to use it again more, but I never found it that useful. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Gordon Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 10:57 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued I just got an update and in the release notes it said that it's being discontinued in January but that if you already have it installed on your phone you can use it through June. I hope that seeing AI doesn't go to. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/<https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=05%7C01%7C%7Cc2538b8f44a2478d297e08dadd2e77cb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638065488985893296%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=VTJNpc4%2BfOicK0XDGLjVKHL%2FXfY8CiUFQnFnt76v%2F%2F4%3D=0> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/c9788c90-7d69-fb31-dab6-069796831a29%40gordonradio.com<https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2Fc9788c90-7d69-fb31-dab6-069796831a29%2540gordonradio.com=05%7C01%7C%7Cc2538b8f44a2478d297e08dadd2e77cb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638065488985893296%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=ykwkK2gMm0an1iX7eSL84EyQpESZWQX1G99y8JLUwhc%3D=0>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel th
Re: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued
I thought it was fun, but it always seemed to me like a beta, not really ready for prime time. I wouldn't ever want to totally rely on it. Andy - Original Message - From: CJ & AA MAY To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 11:49 PM Subject: RE: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued I didn’t use this app regularly, but it got me out of a couple of sticky situations where I found myself lost. Alison From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of tai.toma...@gmail.com Sent: 12 December 2022 20:32 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued Same here, I really enjoyed this app. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Lisa Belville Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 3:26 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued That is too bad. I know what streets are in my neighborhood, and I like to just turn on MS Soundscapes and have it announce the streets as I cross them. I have a beacon set up for my house. I also liked the virtual street preview. I have Google maps, and of course there's apple maps, but what other very basic GPS is out there for those of us who just need to know where we are and not necessarily plan routes for everything. Lisa Lisa Belvillemissktlab1217@frontier.comOn 12/12/2022 2:14 PM, Devin Prater wrote: Then again I never thought they'd just give up on Sounscape either. Devin Prater r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 2:12 PM Sieghard Weitzel wrote: I doubt Seeing AI will follow this example, it seemed to me that Microsoft Soundscape was more of an experiment and I assume it is by far the less popular if you compared it to Seeing AI. I have it downloaded as well and maybe I should try to use it again more, but I never found it that useful. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Gordon Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 10:57 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued I just got an update and in the release notes it said that it's being discontinued in January but that if you already have it installed on your phone you can use it through June. I hope that seeing AI doesn't go to. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/c9788c90-7d69-fb31-dab6-069796831a29%40gordonradio.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/DS0PR10MB62458FC9BFC73BFE01C95C4FC7E29%40DS0PR10MB6245.namprd10.prod.outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can
Re: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued
So at my job, we have a cafeteria that students and staff can eat at. I usually go there, since the meals are cheap and fairly good. Now, there is some renovation going on on the roof of that building, so we have to go to another school to get food. Well, that school is across a big, open parking lot. Soundscape is the only app that reliably got me there and back. I mean, I'm glad Microsoft researched it, but at what point does a research project become something people actually depend on? Like I'm gonna have to really sink time and a bunch of nerves getting lost, on finding another product. Goodmaps is close, and I'm glad it's cross-platform, but it only announces an update after like 50 feet, by which time I could be way off course. Ah well. Accessibility capitalism. At least at one point Microsoft readily told us they'd treat accessibility like a business, or something like that. Devin Prater r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com On Tue, Dec 13, 2022 at 3:39 AM Esther Levegnale wrote: > I feel bad that soundscape is being discontinued as well. I used it on the > streets, plus I've used it walking around in my yard as well. It's really a > shame. Esther > > Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max! > > On Dec 13, 2022, at 2:49 AM, CJ & AA MAY wrote: > > > > I didn’t use this app regularly, but it got me out of a couple of sticky > situations where I found myself lost. > > > Alison > > > > > > *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com *On Behalf Of > *tai.toma...@gmail.com > *Sent:* 12 December 2022 20:32 > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* RE: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued > > > > Same here, I really enjoyed this app. > > > > *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com *On Behalf Of > *Lisa Belville > *Sent:* Monday, December 12, 2022 3:26 PM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued > > > > That is too bad. I know what streets are in my neighborhood, and I like > to just turn on MS Soundscapes and have it announce the streets as I cross > them. I have a beacon set up for my house. > > > > I also liked the virtual street preview. > > > > I have Google maps, and of course there's apple maps, but what other very > basic GPS is out there for those of us who just need to know where we are > and not necessarily plan routes for everything. > > > > Lisa > > > > Lisa Belville > > missktlab1...@frontier.com > > On 12/12/2022 2:14 PM, Devin Prater wrote: > > Then again I never thought they'd just give up on Sounscape either. > > Devin Prater > > r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 2:12 PM Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > I doubt Seeing AI will follow this example, it seemed to me that Microsoft > Soundscape was more of an experiment and I assume it is by far the less > popular if you compared it to Seeing AI. > I have it downloaded as well and maybe I should try to use it again more, > but I never found it that useful. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Gordon > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 10:57 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued > > I just got an update and in the release notes it said that it's being > discontinued in January but that if you already have it installed on your > phone you can use it through June. I hope that seeing AI doesn't go to. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/c9788c90-7d69-fb31-dab6-069796831a29%40gordonradio.com > . > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
Re: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued
I feel bad that soundscape is being discontinued as well. I used it on the streets, plus I've used it walking around in my yard as well. It's really a shame. Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max! > On Dec 13, 2022, at 2:49 AM, CJ & AA MAY wrote: > > > I didn’t use this app regularly, but it got me out of a couple of sticky > situations where I found myself lost. > > Alison > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > tai.toma...@gmail.com > Sent: 12 December 2022 20:32 > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued > > Same here, I really enjoyed this app. > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Lisa > Belville > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 3:26 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued > > That is too bad. I know what streets are in my neighborhood, and I like to > just turn on MS Soundscapes and have it announce the streets as I cross them. > I have a beacon set up for my house. > > > > I also liked the virtual street preview. > > > > I have Google maps, and of course there's apple maps, but what other very > basic GPS is out there for those of us who just need to know where we are and > not necessarily plan routes for everything. > > > > Lisa > > > > Lisa Belville > missktlab1...@frontier.com > On 12/12/2022 2:14 PM, Devin Prater wrote: > Then again I never thought they'd just give up on Sounscape either. > Devin Prater > r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com > > > > > On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 2:12 PM Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > I doubt Seeing AI will follow this example, it seemed to me that Microsoft > Soundscape was more of an experiment and I assume it is by far the less > popular if you compared it to Seeing AI. > I have it downloaded as well and maybe I should try to use it again more, but > I never found it that useful. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Gordon > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 10:57 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued > > I just got an update and in the release notes it said that it's being > discontinued in January but that if you already have it installed on your > phone you can use it through June. I hope that seeing AI doesn't go to. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/c9788c90-7d69-fb31-dab6-069796831a29%40gordonradio.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/DS0PR10MB62458FC9BFC73BFE01C95C4FC7E29%40DS0PR10MB6245.namprd10.prod.outlook.com. > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather tha
RE: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued
That's a drag. I hadn't heard that. Chris Judge -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Gordon Sent: December 12, 2022 2:57 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued I just got an update and in the release notes it said that it's being discontinued in January but that if you already have it installed on your phone you can use it through June. I hope that seeing AI doesn't go to. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/c9788c90-7d69-fb31-dab6-069796831a29%40gordonradio.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/015101d90ed0%24917bdae0%24b47390a0%24%40gmail.com.
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I didn’t use this app regularly, but it got me out of a couple of sticky situations where I found myself lost. Alison From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of tai.toma...@gmail.com Sent: 12 December 2022 20:32 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued Same here, I really enjoyed this app. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Lisa Belville Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 3:26 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued That is too bad. I know what streets are in my neighborhood, and I like to just turn on MS Soundscapes and have it announce the streets as I cross them. I have a beacon set up for my house. I also liked the virtual street preview. I have Google maps, and of course there's apple maps, but what other very basic GPS is out there for those of us who just need to know where we are and not necessarily plan routes for everything. Lisa Lisa Belville missktlab1...@frontier.com <mailto:missktlab1...@frontier.com> On 12/12/2022 2:14 PM, Devin Prater wrote: Then again I never thought they'd just give up on Sounscape either. Devin Prater r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 2:12 PM Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote: I doubt Seeing AI will follow this example, it seemed to me that Microsoft Soundscape was more of an experiment and I assume it is by far the less popular if you compared it to Seeing AI. I have it downloaded as well and maybe I should try to use it again more, but I never found it that useful. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Gordon Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 10:57 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued I just got an update and in the release notes it said that it's being discontinued in January but that if you already have it installed on your phone you can use it through June. I hope that seeing AI doesn't go to. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/c9788c90-7d69-fb31-dab6-069796831a29%40gordonradio.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/DS0PR10MB62458FC9BFC73BFE01C95C4FC7E29%40DS0PR10MB6245.namprd10.prod.outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com &l
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Of course, but I was referring to all of those times people have tossed out making something open source as if that would solve all numbers of problems. I’ve seen this numerous times when Eloquence has come up, as if by making Eloquence open source someone would swoop in, port it to 64-bit and make it available across all platforms. I agree no one on this list said making Sound Scape open source would be a panacea, and I regret using that term. I should have avoided that short hand and elaborated my point more clearly. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 5:33 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued In response to the comment earlier that making something open source is not a panacea, I merely want to point out that no one ever said it was a panacea, only that instead of shutting it down and keeping the code to themselves which they would have the right to do; they are making it available to anyone who wants to develop it further, or to simply incorporate into another app. If no one picks it up, o well. Richard, USA. “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My web site: https://www.turner42.com On Dec 12, 2022, at 3:21 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: And why would you pay 2 bucks for nothing or, in this case, for something which Microsoft is making freely available in the public domain? That would be like saying you pay 2 bucks for some book which is already in the public domain and which could be downloaded for free from all sorts of places. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alex Stone Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 2:35 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued I’ll buy it off ‘em cfor two bucks! Sent from my iPhone On 12 Dec 2022, at 21:37, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@outlook.com>> wrote: Making things open source isn't a panacea. It only works if there's a person or a community who's committed to picking it up and running with it. Although this does happen, and when it does it can be great, but I'm afraid this is the exception and not the rule. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 2:23 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued It is only useful if you have Headphones that allow you to hear your surroundings since it is in stereo and intended to help identify places in relation to where you are. I don't know how many countries it worked in. And, they are not just "abandoning it" as some have said. They are making it open source; so anyone who wants to can further develop it. Richard, USA. "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=05%7C01%7C%7Cd7793bdd919c4c8d659608dadc890cd3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638064778430080753%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=Dm6U%2BjGO9mgSekLlUx11laGpp0b2bq5GkMuHJRoZSbI%3D=0 -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 12:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued I doubt Seeing AI will follow this example, it seemed to me that Microsoft Soundscape was more of an experiment and I assume it is by far the less popular if you compared it to Seeing AI. I have it downloaded as well and maybe I should try to use it again more, but I never found it that useful. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Gordon Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 10:57 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued I just got an update and in the release notes it said that it's being discontinued in January but that if you already have it installed on your phone you can use it through June. I hope that seeing AI do
Re: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued
In response to the comment earlier that making something open source is not a panacea, I merely want to point out that no one ever said it was a panacea, only that instead of shutting it down and keeping the code to themselves which they would have the right to do; they are making it available to anyone who wants to develop it further, or to simply incorporate into another app. If no one picks it up, o well. Richard, USA. “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My web site: https://www.turner42.com > On Dec 12, 2022, at 3:21 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > And why would you pay 2 bucks for nothing or, in this case, for something > which Microsoft is making freely available in the public domain? That would > be like saying you pay 2 bucks for some book which is already in the public > domain and which could be downloaded for free from all sorts of places. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Alex > Stone > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 2:35 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued > > I’ll buy it off ‘em cfor two bucks! > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 12 Dec 2022, at 21:37, Christopher Chaltain wrote: >> >> Making things open source isn't a panacea. It only works if there's a >> person or a community who's committed to picking it up and running with it. >> Although this does happen, and when it does it can be great, but I'm afraid >> this is the exception and not the rule. >> >> -- >> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ >> Chaltain at Outlook, USA >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >> Richard Turner >> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 2:23 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued >> >> It is only useful if you have Headphones that allow you to hear your >> surroundings since it is in stereo and intended to help identify places in >> relation to where you are. >> >> I don't know how many countries it worked in. >> >> And, they are not just "abandoning it" as some have said. They are making >> it open source; so anyone who wants to can further develop it. >> >> >> >> >> >> Richard, USA. >> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." >> -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe >> >> My web site: >> https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=05%7C01%7C%7Cd7793bdd919c4c8d659608dadc890cd3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638064778430080753%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=Dm6U%2BjGO9mgSekLlUx11laGpp0b2bq5GkMuHJRoZSbI%3D=0 >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >> Sieghard Weitzel >> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 12:12 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued >> >> I doubt Seeing AI will follow this example, it seemed to me that Microsoft >> Soundscape was more of an experiment and I assume it is by far the less >> popular if you compared it to Seeing AI. >> I have it downloaded as well and maybe I should try to use it again more, >> but I never found it that useful. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Gordon >> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 10:57 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued >> >> I just got an update and in the release notes it said that it's being >> discontinued in January but that if you already have it installed on your >> phone you can use it through June. I hope that seeing AI doesn't go to. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> https://emea01.safelinks.protection.
RE: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued
And why would you pay 2 bucks for nothing or, in this case, for something which Microsoft is making freely available in the public domain? That would be like saying you pay 2 bucks for some book which is already in the public domain and which could be downloaded for free from all sorts of places. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Alex Stone Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 2:35 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued I’ll buy it off ‘em cfor two bucks! Sent from my iPhone > On 12 Dec 2022, at 21:37, Christopher Chaltain wrote: > > Making things open source isn't a panacea. It only works if there's a person > or a community who's committed to picking it up and running with it. Although > this does happen, and when it does it can be great, but I'm afraid this is > the exception and not the rule. > > -- > Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ > Chaltain at Outlook, USA > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 2:23 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued > > It is only useful if you have Headphones that allow you to hear your > surroundings since it is in stereo and intended to help identify places in > relation to where you are. > > I don't know how many countries it worked in. > > And, they are not just "abandoning it" as some have said. They are making it > open source; so anyone who wants to can further develop it. > > > > > > Richard, USA. > "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." > -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe > > My web site: > https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=05%7C01%7C%7Cd7793bdd919c4c8d659608dadc890cd3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638064778430080753%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=Dm6U%2BjGO9mgSekLlUx11laGpp0b2bq5GkMuHJRoZSbI%3D=0 > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 12:12 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued > > I doubt Seeing AI will follow this example, it seemed to me that Microsoft > Soundscape was more of an experiment and I assume it is by far the less > popular if you compared it to Seeing AI. > I have it downloaded as well and maybe I should try to use it again more, but > I never found it that useful. > > -----Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Gordon > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 10:57 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued > > I just got an update and in the release notes it said that it's being > discontinued in January but that if you already have it installed on your > phone you can use it through June. I hope that seeing AI doesn't go to. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=05%7C01%7C%7Cd7793bdd919c4c8d659608dadc890cd3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638064778430080753%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=lb0ncdQXoCnEZkgVhL%2FuvN2HAc65o%2FTz5w8lq%2BC%2BDOI%3D=0 > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2Fc9788c90-7d69-fb31-dab6-069796831a29%2540gordonradio.com=05%7C01%7C%7Cd7793bdd919c4c8d659608dadc890cd3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638064778430080753%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=PfT%2FIvRr7%2B
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I’ll buy it off ‘em cfor two bucks! Sent from my iPhone > On 12 Dec 2022, at 21:37, Christopher Chaltain wrote: > > Making things open source isn't a panacea. It only works if there's a person > or a community who's committed to picking it up and running with it. Although > this does happen, and when it does it can be great, but I'm afraid this is > the exception and not the rule. > > -- > Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ > Chaltain at Outlook, USA > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 2:23 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued > > It is only useful if you have Headphones that allow you to hear your > surroundings since it is in stereo and intended to help identify places in > relation to where you are. > > I don't know how many countries it worked in. > > And, they are not just "abandoning it" as some have said. They are making it > open source; so anyone who wants to can further develop it. > > > > > > Richard, USA. > "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." > -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe > > My web site: > https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=05%7C01%7C%7Cd7793bdd919c4c8d659608dadc890cd3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638064778430080753%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=Dm6U%2BjGO9mgSekLlUx11laGpp0b2bq5GkMuHJRoZSbI%3D=0 > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 12:12 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued > > I doubt Seeing AI will follow this example, it seemed to me that Microsoft > Soundscape was more of an experiment and I assume it is by far the less > popular if you compared it to Seeing AI. > I have it downloaded as well and maybe I should try to use it again more, but > I never found it that useful. > > -----Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Gordon > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 10:57 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued > > I just got an update and in the release notes it said that it's being > discontinued in January but that if you already have it installed on your > phone you can use it through June. I hope that seeing AI doesn't go to. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=05%7C01%7C%7Cd7793bdd919c4c8d659608dadc890cd3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638064778430080753%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=lb0ncdQXoCnEZkgVhL%2FuvN2HAc65o%2FTz5w8lq%2BC%2BDOI%3D=0 > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2Fc9788c90-7d69-fb31-dab6-069796831a29%2540gordonradio.com=05%7C01%7C%7Cd7793bdd919c4c8d659608dadc890cd3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638064778430080753%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=PfT%2FIvRr7%2BVd5mhFlRGEQHJLc%2BAki30msZeJ9CmyV5g%3D=0. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you
RE: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued
True, I did sometimes have issues with it saying street names after or as I crossed them. However, I don't know of any other sound-based app that would give you passive information about a marker or beacon. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 4:32 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued I thought this would likely happen when Microsoft announced layoffs in October and an intention to not renew many contracts. Personally, I did not like how the app announced streets as I was crossing them instead of before I arrived at them, as other blindness navigation apps perform. Kelly On 12/12/22, Richard Turner wrote: > That could be because it is Google, . > > > > > > > > > > Richard, USA. > > “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” > -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe > > > > My web site: <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Devin Prater > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 12:26 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued > > > > Google's TalkBack is open source too, and that hasn't helped them much. > > > Devin Prater > > r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 2:23 PM Richard Turner > mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote: > > It is only useful if you have Headphones that allow you to hear your > surroundings since it is in stereo and intended to help identify > places in relation to where you are. > > I don’t know how many countries it worked in. > > And, they are not just "abandoning it" as some have said. They are > making it open source; so anyone who wants to can further develop it. > > > > > > Richard, USA. > “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” > -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe > > My web site: https://www.turner42.com > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On > Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 12:12 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: RE: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued > > I doubt Seeing AI will follow this example, it seemed to me that > Microsoft Soundscape was more of an experiment and I assume it is by > far the less popular if you compared it to Seeing AI. > I have it downloaded as well and maybe I should try to use it again > more, but I never found it that useful. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On > Behalf Of Gordon > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 10:57 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued > > I just got an update and in the release notes it said that it's being > discontinued in January but that if you already have it installed on > your phone you can use it through June. I hope that seeing AI doesn't go to. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact > the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara > Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/c9788c90-7d69-fb31-dab6-069796831a29%40gordonradio.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running
Re: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued
I've been calling something like this for years unfortunately. It was only ever a research project which in turn means it can be pulled whenever they want, but (more than understandably) nobody thinks of that when they invest the days, weeks, months in learning it and often making it their default GPS app. It was a great GPS solution with only a very minimal learning curve. It was my go to suggestion for a free offering and I've lost count of how many parents, mobility teachers etc who have ultimately gone on to purchase iPhones after I've shown it to them. It's a nice gesture that they've released the code but that's going to be largely meaningless for most folks. It's possible that a community could form around maintaining the infrastructure required to keep it running, but the more it gets used the greater the cost. Even if the cost can be overcome I personally don't see a clear route to getting it back onto the app store. On 12/12/22, Devin Prater wrote: > Well we'll see. Maybe Goodmaps will snatch it up and use it in their stuff. > But once projects are put away and stop working, they don't usually just > rise from the dead. > Devin Prater > r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com > > > > > On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 2:30 PM Richard Turner > > wrote: > >> That could be because it is Google, . >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Richard, USA. >> >> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with >> it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the >> Universe >> >> >> >> My web site: https://www.turner42.com >> >> >> >> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com *On Behalf Of >> *Devin Prater >> *Sent:* Monday, December 12, 2022 12:26 PM >> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com >> *Subject:* Re: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued >> >> >> >> Google's TalkBack is open source too, and that hasn't helped them much. >> >> Devin Prater >> >> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 2:23 PM Richard Turner < >> richardr_tur...@comcast.net> wrote: >> >> It is only useful if you have Headphones that allow you to hear your >> surroundings since it is in stereo and intended to help identify places >> in >> relation to where you are. >> >> I don’t know how many countries it worked in. >> >> And, they are not just "abandoning it" as some have said. They are >> making >> it open source; so anyone who wants to can further develop it. >> >> >> >> >> >> Richard, USA. >> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with >> it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the >> Universe >> >> My web site: https://www.turner42.com >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >> Sieghard Weitzel >> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 12:12 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued >> >> I doubt Seeing AI will follow this example, it seemed to me that >> Microsoft >> Soundscape was more of an experiment and I assume it is by far the less >> popular if you compared it to Seeing AI. >> I have it downloaded as well and maybe I should try to use it again more, >> but I never found it that useful. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >> Gordon >> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 10:57 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued >> >> I just got an update and in the release notes it said that it's being >> discontinued in January but that if you already have it installed on your >> phone you can use it through June. I hope that seeing AI doesn't go to. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >> list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this mes
RE: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued
Making things open source isn't a panacea. It only works if there's a person or a community who's committed to picking it up and running with it. Although this does happen, and when it does it can be great, but I'm afraid this is the exception and not the rule. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 2:23 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued It is only useful if you have Headphones that allow you to hear your surroundings since it is in stereo and intended to help identify places in relation to where you are. I don't know how many countries it worked in. And, they are not just "abandoning it" as some have said. They are making it open source; so anyone who wants to can further develop it. Richard, USA. "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C6143df8e0f134a90ddcf08dadc7ec362%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638064734242194121%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=rDzzBG5l6uN2D%2BVlGkGUoYXYlEOaK2gCSO5B%2BIY38Xk%3D=0 -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 12:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued I doubt Seeing AI will follow this example, it seemed to me that Microsoft Soundscape was more of an experiment and I assume it is by far the less popular if you compared it to Seeing AI. I have it downloaded as well and maybe I should try to use it again more, but I never found it that useful. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Gordon Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 10:57 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued I just got an update and in the release notes it said that it's being discontinued in January but that if you already have it installed on your phone you can use it through June. I hope that seeing AI doesn't go to. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C6143df8e0f134a90ddcf08dadc7ec362%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638064734242194121%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=gMzpLq8OcErdROGw%2BAUbSCDqdT2DvU9fdmEiRjK%2F6uE%3D=0 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2Fc9788c90-7d69-fb31-dab6-069796831a29%2540gordonradio.com=05%7C01%7C%7C6143df8e0f134a90ddcf08dadc7ec362%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638064734242194121%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=Q6ZCj5DCKqGlNahKbMi92%2B55hxU7lxCwL%2BShQi1VUr0%3D=0. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C6143df8e0f134a90ddcf08dadc7ec362%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638064734242194121%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=gMzpLq8OcErdROGw%2BAUbSCDqdT2DvU9fdmEiRjK%2F6uE%3D=0 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" gro
RE: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued
Google's Talk Back is open source, in that they occasionally publish the source code, but it isn't run as an open source project since they don't accept contributions. This used to be the case, but maybe things have changed. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Devin Prater Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 2:26 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued Google's TalkBack is open source too, and that hasn't helped them much. Devin Prater r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com<mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 2:23 PM Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>> wrote: It is only useful if you have Headphones that allow you to hear your surroundings since it is in stereo and intended to help identify places in relation to where you are. I don't know how many countries it worked in. And, they are not just "abandoning it" as some have said. They are making it open source; so anyone who wants to can further develop it. Richard, USA. "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C311b79c6a001467dae7208dadc7f2f09%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638064736062141018%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=j%2F0eM8sMGNVrV%2FtPjiUi3UcpijCyvsXMzGggTZNudh4%3D=0> -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 12:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued I doubt Seeing AI will follow this example, it seemed to me that Microsoft Soundscape was more of an experiment and I assume it is by far the less popular if you compared it to Seeing AI. I have it downloaded as well and maybe I should try to use it again more, but I never found it that useful. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Gordon Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 10:57 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued I just got an update and in the release notes it said that it's being discontinued in January but that if you already have it installed on your phone you can use it through June. I hope that seeing AI doesn't go to. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C311b79c6a001467dae7208dadc7f2f09%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638064736062141018%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=slSFUbymCEiZWEfanURstH%2BsxjN68mR%2BOvjKw6pHFMI%3D=0> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/c9788c90-7d69-fb31-dab6-069796831a29%40gordonradio.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2Fc9788c90-7d69-fb31-dab6-069796831a29%2540gordonradio.com=05%7C01%7C%7C311b79c6a001467dae7208dadc7f2f09%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638064736062141018%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=hjBOnd4pO2f36dwf7XIaaDGXQryPeFHlikzUIx0ZZcI%3D=0>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather tha
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Yes, I liked it as well, especially when the Bose Frames supported AR. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of tai.toma...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 2:35 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued Interesting. It worked really well for me. I used it to set markers and beacons on hikes and at music festivals. At festivals, I would set a beacon at the place where I set up my chair or the place where my group was standing. I also used it to learn streets in my new neighborhood and to work on clicker training my dog to identify locations. With its help, I knew where to begin signaling her to find particular targets. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Alex Stone Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 3:15 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued I agree, it never seemed to work very well for me. Sent from my iPhone > On 12 Dec 2022, at 20:12, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > I doubt Seeing AI will follow this example, it seemed to me that Microsoft > Soundscape was more of an experiment and I assume it is by far the less > popular if you compared it to Seeing AI. > I have it downloaded as well and maybe I should try to use it again more, but > I never found it that useful. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Gordon > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 10:57 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued > > I just got an update and in the release notes it said that it's being > discontinued in January but that if you already have it installed on your > phone you can use it through June. I hope that seeing AI doesn't go to. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C566939820a2d4986f4b808dadc8050ac%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638064740905037398%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=a%2BaJ175qjO%2F7%2BAGoj0dfP3g7mf9eqTidKaMY3cAGwgk%3D=0 > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2Fc9788c90-7d69-fb31-dab6-069796831a29%2540gordonradio.com=05%7C01%7C%7C566939820a2d4986f4b808dadc8050ac%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638064740905037398%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=wW5Jd2zW0nNFTA2HAyqCrxYhM79cela1akHDnbYgzgY%3D=0. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C566939820a2d4986f4b808dadc8050ac%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638064740905037398%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=a%2BaJ175qjO%2F7%2BAGoj0dfP3g7mf9eqTidKaMY3cAGwgk%3D=0 > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google
Re: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued
I thought this would likely happen when Microsoft announced layoffs in October and an intention to not renew many contracts. Personally, I did not like how the app announced streets as I was crossing them instead of before I arrived at them, as other blindness navigation apps perform. Kelly On 12/12/22, Richard Turner wrote: > That could be because it is Google, . > > > > > > > > > > Richard, USA. > > “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” > -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe > > > > My web site: <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Devin > Prater > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 12:26 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued > > > > Google's TalkBack is open source too, and that hasn't helped them much. > > > Devin Prater > > r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 2:23 PM Richard Turner <mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote: > > It is only useful if you have Headphones that allow you to hear your > surroundings since it is in stereo and intended to help identify places in > relation to where you are. > > I don’t know how many countries it worked in. > > And, they are not just "abandoning it" as some have said. They are making > it open source; so anyone who wants to can further develop it. > > > > > > Richard, USA. > “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” > -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe > > My web site: https://www.turner42.com > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 12:12 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: RE: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued > > I doubt Seeing AI will follow this example, it seemed to me that Microsoft > Soundscape was more of an experiment and I assume it is by far the less > popular if you compared it to Seeing AI. > I have it downloaded as well and maybe I should try to use it again more, > but I never found it that useful. > > -Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of > Gordon > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 10:57 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued > > I just got an update and in the release notes it said that it's being > discontinued in January but that if you already have it installed on your > phone you can use it through June. I hope that seeing AI doesn't go to. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - > you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/c9788c90-7d69-fb31-dab6-069796831a29%40gordonradio.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - > you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > > The archive
Re: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued
Well we'll see. Maybe Goodmaps will snatch it up and use it in their stuff. But once projects are put away and stop working, they don't usually just rise from the dead. Devin Prater r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 2:30 PM Richard Turner wrote: > That could be because it is Google, . > > > > > > > > > > Richard, USA. > > “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with > it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe > > > > My web site: https://www.turner42.com > > > > *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com *On Behalf Of > *Devin Prater > *Sent:* Monday, December 12, 2022 12:26 PM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued > > > > Google's TalkBack is open source too, and that hasn't helped them much. > > Devin Prater > > r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 2:23 PM Richard Turner < > richardr_tur...@comcast.net> wrote: > > It is only useful if you have Headphones that allow you to hear your > surroundings since it is in stereo and intended to help identify places in > relation to where you are. > > I don’t know how many countries it worked in. > > And, they are not just "abandoning it" as some have said. They are making > it open source; so anyone who wants to can further develop it. > > > > > > Richard, USA. > “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with > it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe > > My web site: https://www.turner42.com > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 12:12 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued > > I doubt Seeing AI will follow this example, it seemed to me that Microsoft > Soundscape was more of an experiment and I assume it is by far the less > popular if you compared it to Seeing AI. > I have it downloaded as well and maybe I should try to use it again more, > but I never found it that useful. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Gordon > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 10:57 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued > > I just got an update and in the release notes it said that it's being > discontinued in January but that if you already have it installed on your > phone you can use it through June. I hope that seeing AI doesn't go to. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/c9788c90-7d69-fb31-dab6-069796831a29%40gordonradio.com > . > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/DS0PR10MB62458FC9BFC73BFE01C95C4FC7E29%40DS0PR10MB6245.namprd10.prod.outlook.com > . > > -- > The following information is important for
RE: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued
Interesting. It worked really well for me. I used it to set markers and beacons on hikes and at music festivals. At festivals, I would set a beacon at the place where I set up my chair or the place where my group was standing. I also used it to learn streets in my new neighborhood and to work on clicker training my dog to identify locations. With its help, I knew where to begin signaling her to find particular targets. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Alex Stone Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 3:15 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued I agree, it never seemed to work very well for me. Sent from my iPhone > On 12 Dec 2022, at 20:12, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > I doubt Seeing AI will follow this example, it seemed to me that Microsoft > Soundscape was more of an experiment and I assume it is by far the less > popular if you compared it to Seeing AI. > I have it downloaded as well and maybe I should try to use it again more, but > I never found it that useful. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Gordon > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 10:57 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued > > I just got an update and in the release notes it said that it's being > discontinued in January but that if you already have it installed on your > phone you can use it through June. I hope that seeing AI doesn't go to. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=05%7C01%7C%7Ca3beb129d65c4a2d99de08dadc7d214f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638064727223478421%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=fZrPvb8eJZZubx0NvPlJmkkXjc6kDkRHXZcYdAe0yNw%3D=0 > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2Fc9788c90-7d69-fb31-dab6-069796831a29%2540gordonradio.com=05%7C01%7C%7Ca3beb129d65c4a2d99de08dadc7d214f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638064727223478421%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=wCJXPqbsRxYbVGnmgsvb9SzdkVtDcz2fSG4oNdg55Kg%3D=0. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=05%7C01%7C%7Ca3beb129d65c4a2d99de08dadc7d214f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638064727223478421%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=fZrPvb8eJZZubx0NvPlJmkkXjc6kDkRHXZcYdAe0yNw%3D=0 > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2FDS0PR10MB62458FC9BFC73BFE01C95C4FC7E29%2540DS0PR10MB6245.namprd10.prod.outlook.com=05%7C01%7C%7Ca3beb129d65c4a2d99de08dadc7d214f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638064727223478421%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=TuS0hSckvLLCkso0Q5iv3azciLVN5bNsWsn%2F6
RE: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued
Same here, I really enjoyed this app. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Lisa Belville Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 3:26 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued That is too bad. I know what streets are in my neighborhood, and I like to just turn on MS Soundscapes and have it announce the streets as I cross them. I have a beacon set up for my house. I also liked the virtual street preview. I have Google maps, and of course there's apple maps, but what other very basic GPS is out there for those of us who just need to know where we are and not necessarily plan routes for everything. Lisa Lisa Belville missktlab1...@frontier.com <mailto:missktlab1...@frontier.com> On 12/12/2022 2:14 PM, Devin Prater wrote: Then again I never thought they'd just give up on Sounscape either. Devin Prater r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 2:12 PM Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote: I doubt Seeing AI will follow this example, it seemed to me that Microsoft Soundscape was more of an experiment and I assume it is by far the less popular if you compared it to Seeing AI. I have it downloaded as well and maybe I should try to use it again more, but I never found it that useful. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Gordon Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 10:57 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued I just got an update and in the release notes it said that it's being discontinued in January but that if you already have it installed on your phone you can use it through June. I hope that seeing AI doesn't go to. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/c9788c90-7d69-fb31-dab6-069796831a29%40gordonradio.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/DS0PR10MB62458FC9BFC73BFE01C95C4FC7E29%40DS0PR10MB6245.namprd10.prod.outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> .
RE: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued
That could be because it is Google, . Richard, USA. “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Devin Prater Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 12:26 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued Google's TalkBack is open source too, and that hasn't helped them much. Devin Prater r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 2:23 PM Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote: It is only useful if you have Headphones that allow you to hear your surroundings since it is in stereo and intended to help identify places in relation to where you are. I don’t know how many countries it worked in. And, they are not just "abandoning it" as some have said. They are making it open source; so anyone who wants to can further develop it. Richard, USA. “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 12:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued I doubt Seeing AI will follow this example, it seemed to me that Microsoft Soundscape was more of an experiment and I assume it is by far the less popular if you compared it to Seeing AI. I have it downloaded as well and maybe I should try to use it again more, but I never found it that useful. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Gordon Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 10:57 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued I just got an update and in the release notes it said that it's being discontinued in January but that if you already have it installed on your phone you can use it through June. I hope that seeing AI doesn't go to. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/c9788c90-7d69-fb31-dab6-069796831a29%40gordonradio.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/DS0PR10MB62458FC9BFC73BFE01C95C4FC7E29%40DS0PR10MB6245.namprd10.prod.outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Tay
Re: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued
Google's TalkBack is open source too, and that hasn't helped them much. Devin Prater r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 2:23 PM Richard Turner wrote: > It is only useful if you have Headphones that allow you to hear your > surroundings since it is in stereo and intended to help identify places in > relation to where you are. > > I don’t know how many countries it worked in. > > And, they are not just "abandoning it" as some have said. They are making > it open source; so anyone who wants to can further develop it. > > > > > > Richard, USA. > “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with > it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe > > My web site: https://www.turner42.com > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 12:12 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued > > I doubt Seeing AI will follow this example, it seemed to me that Microsoft > Soundscape was more of an experiment and I assume it is by far the less > popular if you compared it to Seeing AI. > I have it downloaded as well and maybe I should try to use it again more, > but I never found it that useful. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Gordon > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 10:57 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued > > I just got an update and in the release notes it said that it's being > discontinued in January but that if you already have it installed on your > phone you can use it through June. I hope that seeing AI doesn't go to. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/c9788c90-7d69-fb31-dab6-069796831a29%40gordonradio.com > . > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/DS0PR10MB62458FC9BFC73BFE01C95C4FC7E29%40DS0PR10MB6245.namprd10.prod.outlook.com > . > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/008e01d90e67%2492a72c30%24b7f58490%24%40c
Re: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued
That is too bad. I know what streets are in my neighborhood, and I like to just turn on MS Soundscapes and have it announce the streets as I cross them. I have a beacon set up for my house. I also liked the virtual street preview. I have Google maps, and of course there's apple maps, but what other very basic GPS is out there for those of us who just need to know where we are and not necessarily plan routes for everything. Lisa Lisa Belville missktlab1...@frontier.com On 12/12/2022 2:14 PM, Devin Prater wrote: Then again I never thought they'd just give up on Sounscape either. Devin Prater r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 2:12 PM Sieghard Weitzel wrote: I doubt Seeing AI will follow this example, it seemed to me that Microsoft Soundscape was more of an experiment and I assume it is by far the less popular if you compared it to Seeing AI. I have it downloaded as well and maybe I should try to use it again more, but I never found it that useful. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Gordon Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 10:57 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued I just got an update and in the release notes it said that it's being discontinued in January but that if you already have it installed on your phone you can use it through June. I hope that seeing AI doesn't go to. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/c9788c90-7d69-fb31-dab6-069796831a29%40gordonradio.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/DS0PR10MB62458FC9BFC73BFE01C95C4FC7E29%40DS0PR10MB6245.namprd10.prod.outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAGJxbF5zvo%2B4tgoomrRTetek%2BrB%2B%3DRTGV3gTcZwRy8fMkD7TQQ%40mail.gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAGJxbF5zvo%2B4tgoomrRTetek%2BrB%2B%3DRTGV3gTcZwRy8fMkD7TQQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators direct
RE: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued
It is only useful if you have Headphones that allow you to hear your surroundings since it is in stereo and intended to help identify places in relation to where you are. I don’t know how many countries it worked in. And, they are not just "abandoning it" as some have said. They are making it open source; so anyone who wants to can further develop it. Richard, USA. “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 12:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued I doubt Seeing AI will follow this example, it seemed to me that Microsoft Soundscape was more of an experiment and I assume it is by far the less popular if you compared it to Seeing AI. I have it downloaded as well and maybe I should try to use it again more, but I never found it that useful. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Gordon Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 10:57 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued I just got an update and in the release notes it said that it's being discontinued in January but that if you already have it installed on your phone you can use it through June. I hope that seeing AI doesn't go to. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/c9788c90-7d69-fb31-dab6-069796831a29%40gordonradio.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/DS0PR10MB62458FC9BFC73BFE01C95C4FC7E29%40DS0PR10MB6245.namprd10.prod.outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/008e01d90e67%2492a72c30%24b7f58490%24%40comcast.net.
Re: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued
Then again I never thought they'd just give up on Sounscape either. Devin Prater r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 2:12 PM Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > I doubt Seeing AI will follow this example, it seemed to me that Microsoft > Soundscape was more of an experiment and I assume it is by far the less > popular if you compared it to Seeing AI. > I have it downloaded as well and maybe I should try to use it again more, > but I never found it that useful. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Gordon > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 10:57 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued > > I just got an update and in the release notes it said that it's being > discontinued in January but that if you already have it installed on your > phone you can use it through June. I hope that seeing AI doesn't go to. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/c9788c90-7d69-fb31-dab6-069796831a29%40gordonradio.com > . > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/DS0PR10MB62458FC9BFC73BFE01C95C4FC7E29%40DS0PR10MB6245.namprd10.prod.outlook.com > . > -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAGJxbF5zvo%2B4tgoomrRTetek%2BrB%2B%3DRTGV3gTcZwRy8fMkD7TQQ%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued
I agree, it never seemed to work very well for me. Sent from my iPhone > On 12 Dec 2022, at 20:12, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > I doubt Seeing AI will follow this example, it seemed to me that Microsoft > Soundscape was more of an experiment and I assume it is by far the less > popular if you compared it to Seeing AI. > I have it downloaded as well and maybe I should try to use it again more, but > I never found it that useful. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Gordon > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 10:57 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued > > I just got an update and in the release notes it said that it's being > discontinued in January but that if you already have it installed on your > phone you can use it through June. I hope that seeing AI doesn't go to. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=05%7C01%7C%7Ca3beb129d65c4a2d99de08dadc7d214f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638064727223478421%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=fZrPvb8eJZZubx0NvPlJmkkXjc6kDkRHXZcYdAe0yNw%3D=0 > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2Fc9788c90-7d69-fb31-dab6-069796831a29%2540gordonradio.com=05%7C01%7C%7Ca3beb129d65c4a2d99de08dadc7d214f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638064727223478421%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=wCJXPqbsRxYbVGnmgsvb9SzdkVtDcz2fSG4oNdg55Kg%3D=0. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=05%7C01%7C%7Ca3beb129d65c4a2d99de08dadc7d214f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638064727223478421%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=fZrPvb8eJZZubx0NvPlJmkkXjc6kDkRHXZcYdAe0yNw%3D=0 > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2FDS0PR10MB62458FC9BFC73BFE01C95C4FC7E29%2540DS0PR10MB6245.namprd10.prod.outlook.com=05%7C01%7C%7Ca3beb129d65c4a2d99de08dadc7d214f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638064727223478421%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=TuS0hSckvLLCkso0Q5iv3azciLVN5bNsWsn%2F6Alrgg0%3D=0. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribe
RE: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued
I doubt Seeing AI will follow this example, it seemed to me that Microsoft Soundscape was more of an experiment and I assume it is by far the less popular if you compared it to Seeing AI. I have it downloaded as well and maybe I should try to use it again more, but I never found it that useful. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Gordon Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 10:57 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued I just got an update and in the release notes it said that it's being discontinued in January but that if you already have it installed on your phone you can use it through June. I hope that seeing AI doesn't go to. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/c9788c90-7d69-fb31-dab6-069796831a29%40gordonradio.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/DS0PR10MB62458FC9BFC73BFE01C95C4FC7E29%40DS0PR10MB6245.namprd10.prod.outlook.com.
RE: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued
This is sad news. But, I went to the link provided in the update and will copy the text below following the link. It will become open source, but read below for details and dates. The Microsoft Soundscape iOS app is being discontinued as of Jan 3, 2023, and will not be available for download. Existing installations can be used until June 30, 2023. Additional information: https://aka.ms/ossblog For more than six years, Microsoft Research has been honored to develop the Soundscape research project, which was designed to deliver information about a person’s location and points of interest and has guided individuals to desired places and in unfamiliar spaces using augmented-reality and three-dimensional audio. While not a traditional turn-by-turn navigation mobile app, the Soundscape research project allowed us to explore ways that audio can enhance mobility and expand navigation experiences without the need to follow directions on a small display. Beginning January 3, 2023, the Soundscape code will be available as open-source software, so that anyone can continue to build on, and find new ways to leverage, this novel feature set for the growing navigation opportunities in today’s world. As Microsoft Research continues to expand into new accessibility innovation areas, we hope the open-source software release of the Soundscape code supports the community in further developing confidence and utility of spatial audio navigation experiences. Also on January 3, 2023, the Microsoft Soundscape iOS app will no longer be available for download from the App Store, although existing installations can continue to be used until the end of June 2023. We are grateful to all of those who have tried and found value in the Microsoft Soundscape app and appreciate all the feedback and stories you have shared with us over the years. Through the Microsoft Soundscape journey, we were delighted to discover the many valuable experiences Soundscape enabled, from empowering mobility instructors, to understanding the role of audio in adaptive sports, to supporting blind or low-vision individuals to go places and do essential activities for their lives. By making the Soundscape code available as open-source software, we hope the interest and potential continues to grow. Documentation on how to build and use the system from the new GitHub Soundscape page will be shared on January 3, 2023. Richard, USA “It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased.” – Kehlog Albran, The Profit -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/004b01d90e5d%24fd407e70%24f7c17b50%24%40comcast.net.
Microsoft sound scape being discontinued
I just got an update and in the release notes it said that it's being discontinued in January but that if you already have it installed on your phone you can use it through June. I hope that seeing AI doesn't go to. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/c9788c90-7d69-fb31-dab6-069796831a29%40gordonradio.com.
