Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

[Ed Worrell]

Hello,

I have found so far that there is very little sound delay with VoiceOver and 
the new AirPod Pros. It is very quick and snappy with VO.

Ed 

> On Nov 9, 2019, at 6:27 PM, Yohandy Rodriguez  wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know if the audio delay is less compared to version 1? I know 
> second gen have less delay, but not sure about pros. I actually still have 
> first generation!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/4/2019 1:19 PM, Ed Worrell wrote:
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I just got my Air Pods Pro’s in the mail over the weekend. I am impressed 
>> with them. The noice canceling feature is interesting and it will take some 
>> getting used to. The Transparency mode is really cool. It allows your audio 
>> such as music or even Voiceover to be heard with the audio around you 
>> ducking under it so you can hear your surroundings. From what I can tell you 
>> only lose about 20 mins off of the full charge when either mode is active. 
>> You get the same battery life as the original Air Pods. I find the Pros to 
>> be much more comfortable and I don’t have any soreness after wearing them 
>> for a lengthily listen to my favorite music. They come with 3 different 
>> silicone ear tips for a customizable fit.  The audio is 100 times better 
>> then the original Air Pods. The new H1 chip for Siri and audio makes it so 
>> there is very little or even no lag for voiceover users. Gestures and what 
>> is spoken are in pretty good sync.
>> 
>> So far I really like them a lot.
>> 
>> Ed W.
>>  
>>> On Oct 29, 2019, at 9:59 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> In addition to having active noise cancellation they are also a different 
>>> design, the Airpods Pro have silicon tips, sit nside your ear canal  and 
>>> completely seal your ear. They have apparently some mode where you are 
>>> supposed to be able to hear what's going on around you through the 
>>> microphones of these Airpods, but how realistic that represents what really 
>>> goes on around you remains to be seen and I assume in this mode the few 
>>> hours of battery life will be even further shortened.
>>> At $249 US they certainly won't be on my "I wish I had those" list.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Maria Reyes
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 7:28 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available 
>>> October 30
>>> 
>>>> They have noise cancellation. I enjoy my first gen AirPods. The battery 
>>>> life doesn't really bother me, but that's because I only use them a 
>>>> certain amount.
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 29, 2019, at 6:08 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I haven’t really been following this thread, but what do these AirPods pro 
>>>> do that my current airpods2 dont?
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
>>>> lenron brown 
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:19:06 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>>> Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available
>>>> October 30
>>>> 
>>>> I normally end up doing the wear one at a time thing because of the
>>>> battery life. It kind of drives me nuts, I think I will glad a pair of
>>>> the over the ear beats that just came out at some point. Then again
>>>> the Bose might be a better choice, will do some testing. Anyways if
>>>> the batteries in the Airpods Pro are the same they are not all that
>>>> useful to me. Maybe in a few years we can get at least 10 hours.
>>>> 
>>>> On 10/29/19, Keith Bierman  wrote:
>>>>> again, it's a matter of the load (how much processing there is) and
>>>>> the size of the battery. The more processing, the higher the load,
>>>>> the bigger the drain on the battery. hearing aides for small to
>>>>> medium hearing loss, not using wireless have pretty small demands on
>>>>> the battery. The more profound the loss, the more wireless activity,
>>>>> the higher the load. The apple airpods have (arguably) daft amounts
>>>>> of processing (but it's why they do seamless switching between
>>>>> devices and happily connect to their phone/ipad/laptop from many feet 
>>>>> away).
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm not privy to the precise figures for any

RE: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

[territek]

Oh, a couple other differences between the second gen Airpods and the Airpods 
Pro in the comparison I read on Amazon is that the prose have the mic in the 
ear as well as outside, and you can switch between noise cancelling and 
listening to outside sounds such as coworkers. Being able to switch between the 
two is a huge plus for work. The Bose frames also provide ability to listen to 
sounds near-by, but the down side for the Frames is you don't get any warning 
that the battery is low, it just plays a few brief beeps and shuts off. That is 
a problem if you are on a conference call or Zoom meeting for work.
Best,
Terri Hedgpeth


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 7:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

As far as I know they use the same chip as in second gen Airpods, mostly the 
difference is that this Pro model has active noise cancellation and it is an 
in-ear design with 3 different silicon tips to fit inside your ear.
Apple makes this 3-silicon tip design/fit sound like the reinvention of the 
wheel except of course every half decent in-ear headset has done this for 10 
years or more


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Yohandy 
Rodriguez
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 5:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

Does anyone know if the audio delay is less compared to version 1? I know 
second gen have less delay, but not sure about pros. I actually still have 
first generation!




On 11/4/2019 1:19 PM, Ed Worrell wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I just got my Air Pods Pro’s in the mail over the weekend. I am impressed 
> with them. The noice canceling feature is interesting and it will take some 
> getting used to. The Transparency mode is really cool. It allows your audio 
> such as music or even Voiceover to be heard with the audio around you ducking 
> under it so you can hear your surroundings. From what I can tell you only 
> lose about 20 mins off of the full charge when either mode is active. You get 
> the same battery life as the original Air Pods. I find the Pros to be much 
> more comfortable and I don’t have any soreness after wearing them for a 
> lengthily listen to my favorite music. They come with 3 different silicone 
> ear tips for a customizable fit.  The audio is 100 times better then the 
> original Air Pods. The new H1 chip for Siri and audio makes it so there is 
> very little or even no lag for voiceover users. Gestures and what is spoken 
> are in pretty good sync.
>
> So far I really like them a lot.
>
> Ed W.
>   
>
>> On Oct 29, 2019, at 9:59 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>> In addition to having active noise cancellation they are also a different 
>> design, the Airpods Pro have silicon tips, sit nside your ear canal  and 
>> completely seal your ear. They have apparently some mode where you are 
>> supposed to be able to hear what's going on around you through the 
>> microphones of these Airpods, but how realistic that represents what really 
>> goes on around you remains to be seen and I assume in this mode the few 
>> hours of battery life will be even further shortened.
>> At $249 US they certainly won't be on my "I wish I had those" list.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Maria Reyes
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 7:28 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available 
>> October 30
>>
>>> They have noise cancellation. I enjoy my first gen AirPods. The battery 
>>> life doesn't really bother me, but that's because I only use them a certain 
>>> amount.
>>>
>>> On Oct 29, 2019, at 6:08 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> I haven’t really been following this thread, but what do these AirPods pro 
>>> do that my current airpods2 dont?
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf 
>>> of lenron brown 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:19:06 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, 
>>> available October 30
>>>
>>> I normally end up doing the wear one at a time thing because of the 
>>> battery life. It kind of drives me nuts, I think I will glad a pair 
>>> of the over the ear beats that just came out at some point. Then 
>>> again the Bose might be a better choice, will do some testing.
>>> Anyways if the batteries in the Airpods Pro are 

RE: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

[Sieghard Weitzel]

As far as I know they use the same chip as in second gen Airpods, mostly the 
difference is that this Pro model has active noise cancellation and it is an 
in-ear design with 3 different silicon tips to fit inside your ear.
Apple makes this 3-silicon tip design/fit sound like the reinvention of the 
wheel except of course every half decent in-ear headset has done this for 10 
years or more


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Yohandy 
Rodriguez
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 5:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

Does anyone know if the audio delay is less compared to version 1? I know 
second gen have less delay, but not sure about pros. I actually still have 
first generation!




On 11/4/2019 1:19 PM, Ed Worrell wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I just got my Air Pods Pro’s in the mail over the weekend. I am impressed 
> with them. The noice canceling feature is interesting and it will take some 
> getting used to. The Transparency mode is really cool. It allows your audio 
> such as music or even Voiceover to be heard with the audio around you ducking 
> under it so you can hear your surroundings. From what I can tell you only 
> lose about 20 mins off of the full charge when either mode is active. You get 
> the same battery life as the original Air Pods. I find the Pros to be much 
> more comfortable and I don’t have any soreness after wearing them for a 
> lengthily listen to my favorite music. They come with 3 different silicone 
> ear tips for a customizable fit.  The audio is 100 times better then the 
> original Air Pods. The new H1 chip for Siri and audio makes it so there is 
> very little or even no lag for voiceover users. Gestures and what is spoken 
> are in pretty good sync.
>
> So far I really like them a lot.
>
> Ed W.
>   
>
>> On Oct 29, 2019, at 9:59 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>> In addition to having active noise cancellation they are also a different 
>> design, the Airpods Pro have silicon tips, sit nside your ear canal  and 
>> completely seal your ear. They have apparently some mode where you are 
>> supposed to be able to hear what's going on around you through the 
>> microphones of these Airpods, but how realistic that represents what really 
>> goes on around you remains to be seen and I assume in this mode the few 
>> hours of battery life will be even further shortened.
>> At $249 US they certainly won't be on my "I wish I had those" list.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Maria Reyes
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 7:28 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available 
>> October 30
>>
>>> They have noise cancellation. I enjoy my first gen AirPods. The battery 
>>> life doesn't really bother me, but that's because I only use them a certain 
>>> amount.
>>>
>>> On Oct 29, 2019, at 6:08 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> I haven’t really been following this thread, but what do these AirPods pro 
>>> do that my current airpods2 dont?
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf 
>>> of lenron brown 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:19:06 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, 
>>> available October 30
>>>
>>> I normally end up doing the wear one at a time thing because of the 
>>> battery life. It kind of drives me nuts, I think I will glad a pair 
>>> of the over the ear beats that just came out at some point. Then 
>>> again the Bose might be a better choice, will do some testing. 
>>> Anyways if the batteries in the Airpods Pro are the same they are 
>>> not all that useful to me. Maybe in a few years we can get at least 10 
>>> hours.
>>>
>>> On 10/29/19, Keith Bierman  wrote:
>>>> again, it's a matter of the load (how much processing there is) and 
>>>> the size of the battery. The more processing, the higher the load, 
>>>> the bigger the drain on the battery. hearing aides for small to 
>>>> medium hearing loss, not using wireless have pretty small demands 
>>>> on the battery. The more profound the loss, the more wireless 
>>>> activity, the higher the load. The apple airpods have (arguably) 
>>>> daft amounts of processing (but it's why they do seamless switching 
>>>> between devices and happily connect to their phone/ipad/laptop from many 
>>>> fe

Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

[Yohandy Rodriguez]

Does anyone know if the audio delay is less compared to version 1? I 
know second gen have less delay, but not sure about pros. I actually 
still have first generation!





On 11/4/2019 1:19 PM, Ed Worrell wrote:

Hello All,

I just got my Air Pods Pro’s in the mail over the weekend. I am impressed with 
them. The noice canceling feature is interesting and it will take some getting 
used to. The Transparency mode is really cool. It allows your audio such as 
music or even Voiceover to be heard with the audio around you ducking under it 
so you can hear your surroundings. From what I can tell you only lose about 20 
mins off of the full charge when either mode is active. You get the same 
battery life as the original Air Pods. I find the Pros to be much more 
comfortable and I don’t have any soreness after wearing them for a lengthily 
listen to my favorite music. They come with 3 different silicone ear tips for a 
customizable fit.  The audio is 100 times better then the original Air Pods. 
The new H1 chip for Siri and audio makes it so there is very little or even no 
lag for voiceover users. Gestures and what is spoken are in pretty good sync.

So far I really like them a lot.

Ed W.
  


On Oct 29, 2019, at 9:59 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

In addition to having active noise cancellation they are also a different 
design, the Airpods Pro have silicon tips, sit nside your ear canal  and 
completely seal your ear. They have apparently some mode where you are supposed 
to be able to hear what's going on around you through the microphones of these 
Airpods, but how realistic that represents what really goes on around you 
remains to be seen and I assume in this mode the few hours of battery life will 
be even further shortened.
At $249 US they certainly won't be on my "I wish I had those" list.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
Reyes
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 7:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30


They have noise cancellation. I enjoy my first gen AirPods. The battery life 
doesn't really bother me, but that's because I only use them a certain amount.

On Oct 29, 2019, at 6:08 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:


I haven’t really been following this thread, but what do these AirPods pro do 
that my current airpods2 dont?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
lenron brown 
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:19:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available
October 30

I normally end up doing the wear one at a time thing because of the
battery life. It kind of drives me nuts, I think I will glad a pair of
the over the ear beats that just came out at some point. Then again
the Bose might be a better choice, will do some testing. Anyways if
the batteries in the Airpods Pro are the same they are not all that
useful to me. Maybe in a few years we can get at least 10 hours.

On 10/29/19, Keith Bierman  wrote:

again, it's a matter of the load (how much processing there is) and
the size of the battery. The more processing, the higher the load,
the bigger the drain on the battery. hearing aides for small to
medium hearing loss, not using wireless have pretty small demands on
the battery. The more profound the loss, the more wireless activity,
the higher the load. The apple airpods have (arguably) daft amounts
of processing (but it's why they do seamless switching between
devices and happily connect to their phone/ipad/laptop from many feet away).

I'm not privy to the precise figures for any of the internals
(hearing aid, cochlear processor, airpods) but the engineering
trade-offs are pretty much textbook material for the fundamental
considerations.  The internal details matter, a lot ... but without
comparative teardowns, lab testing and instrumentation, it's all a
bit handwavy ;>

In any event, as a consumer everyone needs to decide what meets
*their* requirements,
w.r.t. usage modes, battery life, water resistance, etc.

Keith Bierman
khb...@gmail.com
303 997 2749


On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 10:16 AM Terri Hedgpeth  wrote:


If that was correct, why than do rechargeable hearing aids last for
days on a charge, and for four days on a small wafer battery?



*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On
Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
*Sent:* Monday, October 28, 2019 9:16 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro,
available October 30



It will be a long time before battery technology is advanced enough
to offer 8 or 10 hours in such a tiny design.

Maybe they could design a hat with solar panels which wirelessly
charges your Airpods while they are in your ear. If you live in a
place with little sunshine that of course wouldn’t do you much
good. Oh, wait, they still have to invent it.



*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On
Behalf Of *Devin Prater
*Sent:* Monday, October 28, 

Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

[Ed Worrell]

Hey Lenron,

You are correct it would really take some jumping and shaking around to Gert 
these to fall out. They are in your ears pretty snug.

Ed W.

> On Nov 5, 2019, at 6:13 AM, lenron brown  wrote:
> 
> Good that the audio is better. I would think it would be for 250 bucks
> though. The audio in the Airpods first gens kind of suck though.
> Honestly if I pay more than 200 bucks I want an over the ear headset.
> I am guessing but I bet these pros don't fall out like the normal
> airpods.
> 
> On 11/5/19, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> In my opinion, the price is way to expensive.  If I'm going to pay
>> $250 for something, then it had better have better battery life then 3
>> hours.  I've got a pair of ear buds that are wireless and lasts for
>> about the same time, but I didn't pay anywhere near the price of the
>> new apple airpods.
>> 
>> On 11/5/19, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>>> Thanks for that; I read a review about them recently which, along with
>>> your
>>> impressions, makes me think I want a pair. 
>>> 
>>> All the best
>>> Angie
>>> 
>>>> On 4 Nov 2019, at 18:19, Ed Worrell  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello All,
>>>> 
>>>> I just got my Air Pods Pro’s in the mail over the weekend. I am
>>>> impressed
>>>> with them. The noice canceling feature is interesting and it will take
>>>> some getting used to. The Transparency mode is really cool. It allows
>>>> your
>>>> audio such as music or even Voiceover to be heard with the audio around
>>>> you ducking under it so you can hear your surroundings. From what I can
>>>> tell you only lose about 20 mins off of the full charge when either mode
>>>> is active. You get the same battery life as the original Air Pods. I
>>>> find
>>>> the Pros to be much more comfortable and I don’t have any soreness after
>>>> wearing them for a lengthily listen to my favorite music. They come with
>>>> 3
>>>> different silicone ear tips for a customizable fit.  The audio is 100
>>>> times better then the original Air Pods. The new H1 chip for Siri and
>>>> audio makes it so there is very little or even no lag for voiceover
>>>> users.
>>>> Gestures and what is spoken are in pretty good sync.
>>>> 
>>>> So far I really like them a lot.
>>>> 
>>>> Ed W.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 29, 2019, at 9:59 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> In addition to having active noise cancellation they are also a
>>>>> different
>>>>> design, the Airpods Pro have silicon tips, sit nside your ear canal
>>>>> and
>>>>> completely seal your ear. They have apparently some mode where you are
>>>>> supposed to be able to hear what's going on around you through the
>>>>> microphones of these Airpods, but how realistic that represents what
>>>>> really goes on around you remains to be seen and I assume in this mode
>>>>> the few hours of battery life will be even further shortened.
>>>>> At $249 US they certainly won't be on my "I wish I had those" list.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>>>> Maria Reyes
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 7:28 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available
>>>>> October 30
>>>>> 
>>>>>> They have noise cancellation. I enjoy my first gen AirPods. The
>>>>>> battery
>>>>>> life doesn't really bother me, but that's because I only use them a
>>>>>> certain amount.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 29, 2019, at 6:08 PM, Alex Stone 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I haven’t really been following this thread, but what do these AirPods
>>>>>> pro do that my current airpods2 dont?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
>>>>>> lenron brown 
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:19:06 PM
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available
>>>>>> October 30
>>>>>> 
&g

Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

[Ed Worrell]

Hey Joshua,

You in  fact do get better then 3 hours of battery. Each ear pod has a battery 
that last for 5 hours on a single charge, plus you have the battery case, this 
gets you 24 or more hours of use. The Air Pods take simply 15 mins to get to an 
80% charge and this gets you more than 3 hours with the quick charge.

I don’t mean to sound harsh hear but if you don’t want them don’t get them and 
stop complaining about them.

Ed W.

> On Nov 5, 2019, at 6:07 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> In my opinion, the price is way to expensive.  If I'm going to pay
> $250 for something, then it had better have better battery life then 3
> hours.  I've got a pair of ear buds that are wireless and lasts for
> about the same time, but I didn't pay anywhere near the price of the
> new apple airpods.
> 
> On 11/5/19, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>> Thanks for that; I read a review about them recently which, along with your
>> impressions, makes me think I want a pair. 
>> 
>> All the best
>> Angie
>> 
>>> On 4 Nov 2019, at 18:19, Ed Worrell  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello All,
>>> 
>>> I just got my Air Pods Pro’s in the mail over the weekend. I am impressed
>>> with them. The noice canceling feature is interesting and it will take
>>> some getting used to. The Transparency mode is really cool. It allows your
>>> audio such as music or even Voiceover to be heard with the audio around
>>> you ducking under it so you can hear your surroundings. From what I can
>>> tell you only lose about 20 mins off of the full charge when either mode
>>> is active. You get the same battery life as the original Air Pods. I find
>>> the Pros to be much more comfortable and I don’t have any soreness after
>>> wearing them for a lengthily listen to my favorite music. They come with 3
>>> different silicone ear tips for a customizable fit.  The audio is 100
>>> times better then the original Air Pods. The new H1 chip for Siri and
>>> audio makes it so there is very little or even no lag for voiceover users.
>>> Gestures and what is spoken are in pretty good sync.
>>> 
>>> So far I really like them a lot.
>>> 
>>> Ed W.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 29, 2019, at 9:59 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> In addition to having active noise cancellation they are also a different
>>>> design, the Airpods Pro have silicon tips, sit nside your ear canal  and
>>>> completely seal your ear. They have apparently some mode where you are
>>>> supposed to be able to hear what's going on around you through the
>>>> microphones of these Airpods, but how realistic that represents what
>>>> really goes on around you remains to be seen and I assume in this mode
>>>> the few hours of battery life will be even further shortened.
>>>> At $249 US they certainly won't be on my "I wish I had those" list.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>>> Maria Reyes
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 7:28 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available
>>>> October 30
>>>> 
>>>>> They have noise cancellation. I enjoy my first gen AirPods. The battery
>>>>> life doesn't really bother me, but that's because I only use them a
>>>>> certain amount.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 29, 2019, at 6:08 PM, Alex Stone 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I haven’t really been following this thread, but what do these AirPods
>>>>> pro do that my current airpods2 dont?
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
>>>>> lenron brown 
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:19:06 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available
>>>>> October 30
>>>>> 
>>>>> I normally end up doing the wear one at a time thing because of the
>>>>> battery life. It kind of drives me nuts, I think I will glad a pair of
>>>>> the over the ear beats that just came out at some point. Then again
>>>>> the Bose might be a better choice, will do some testing. Anyways if
>>>>> the batteries in the Airpods Pro are the same they are not all that
>>>>> useful to me. Maybe in a few years we can 

Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

[lenron brown]

Good that the audio is better. I would think it would be for 250 bucks
though. The audio in the Airpods first gens kind of suck though.
Honestly if I pay more than 200 bucks I want an over the ear headset.
I am guessing but I bet these pros don't fall out like the normal
airpods.

On 11/5/19, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> In my opinion, the price is way to expensive.  If I'm going to pay
> $250 for something, then it had better have better battery life then 3
> hours.  I've got a pair of ear buds that are wireless and lasts for
> about the same time, but I didn't pay anywhere near the price of the
> new apple airpods.
>
> On 11/5/19, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>> Thanks for that; I read a review about them recently which, along with
>> your
>> impressions, makes me think I want a pair. 
>>
>> All the best
>> Angie
>>
>>> On 4 Nov 2019, at 18:19, Ed Worrell  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> I just got my Air Pods Pro’s in the mail over the weekend. I am
>>> impressed
>>> with them. The noice canceling feature is interesting and it will take
>>> some getting used to. The Transparency mode is really cool. It allows
>>> your
>>> audio such as music or even Voiceover to be heard with the audio around
>>> you ducking under it so you can hear your surroundings. From what I can
>>> tell you only lose about 20 mins off of the full charge when either mode
>>> is active. You get the same battery life as the original Air Pods. I
>>> find
>>> the Pros to be much more comfortable and I don’t have any soreness after
>>> wearing them for a lengthily listen to my favorite music. They come with
>>> 3
>>> different silicone ear tips for a customizable fit.  The audio is 100
>>> times better then the original Air Pods. The new H1 chip for Siri and
>>> audio makes it so there is very little or even no lag for voiceover
>>> users.
>>> Gestures and what is spoken are in pretty good sync.
>>>
>>> So far I really like them a lot.
>>>
>>> Ed W.
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Oct 29, 2019, at 9:59 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> In addition to having active noise cancellation they are also a
>>>> different
>>>> design, the Airpods Pro have silicon tips, sit nside your ear canal
>>>> and
>>>> completely seal your ear. They have apparently some mode where you are
>>>> supposed to be able to hear what's going on around you through the
>>>> microphones of these Airpods, but how realistic that represents what
>>>> really goes on around you remains to be seen and I assume in this mode
>>>> the few hours of battery life will be even further shortened.
>>>> At $249 US they certainly won't be on my "I wish I had those" list.
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>>> Maria Reyes
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 7:28 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available
>>>> October 30
>>>>
>>>>> They have noise cancellation. I enjoy my first gen AirPods. The
>>>>> battery
>>>>> life doesn't really bother me, but that's because I only use them a
>>>>> certain amount.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 29, 2019, at 6:08 PM, Alex Stone 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> I haven’t really been following this thread, but what do these AirPods
>>>>> pro do that my current airpods2 dont?
>>>>>
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
>>>>> lenron brown 
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:19:06 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available
>>>>> October 30
>>>>>
>>>>> I normally end up doing the wear one at a time thing because of the
>>>>> battery life. It kind of drives me nuts, I think I will glad a pair of
>>>>> the over the ear beats that just came out at some point. Then again
>>>>> the Bose might be a better choice, will do some testing. Anyways if
>>>>> the batteries in the Airpods Pro are the same they are not all that
>>>>> useful to me. Maybe in a few years we can get at least 10 hours.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/29/19, Ke

Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

[Joshua Hendrickson]

In my opinion, the price is way to expensive.  If I'm going to pay
$250 for something, then it had better have better battery life then 3
hours.  I've got a pair of ear buds that are wireless and lasts for
about the same time, but I didn't pay anywhere near the price of the
new apple airpods.

On 11/5/19, Angie Nutt  wrote:
> Thanks for that; I read a review about them recently which, along with your
> impressions, makes me think I want a pair. 
>
> All the best
> Angie
>
>> On 4 Nov 2019, at 18:19, Ed Worrell  wrote:
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> I just got my Air Pods Pro’s in the mail over the weekend. I am impressed
>> with them. The noice canceling feature is interesting and it will take
>> some getting used to. The Transparency mode is really cool. It allows your
>> audio such as music or even Voiceover to be heard with the audio around
>> you ducking under it so you can hear your surroundings. From what I can
>> tell you only lose about 20 mins off of the full charge when either mode
>> is active. You get the same battery life as the original Air Pods. I find
>> the Pros to be much more comfortable and I don’t have any soreness after
>> wearing them for a lengthily listen to my favorite music. They come with 3
>> different silicone ear tips for a customizable fit.  The audio is 100
>> times better then the original Air Pods. The new H1 chip for Siri and
>> audio makes it so there is very little or even no lag for voiceover users.
>> Gestures and what is spoken are in pretty good sync.
>>
>> So far I really like them a lot.
>>
>> Ed W.
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 29, 2019, at 9:59 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>
>>> In addition to having active noise cancellation they are also a different
>>> design, the Airpods Pro have silicon tips, sit nside your ear canal  and
>>> completely seal your ear. They have apparently some mode where you are
>>> supposed to be able to hear what's going on around you through the
>>> microphones of these Airpods, but how realistic that represents what
>>> really goes on around you remains to be seen and I assume in this mode
>>> the few hours of battery life will be even further shortened.
>>> At $249 US they certainly won't be on my "I wish I had those" list.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Maria Reyes
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 7:28 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available
>>> October 30
>>>
>>>> They have noise cancellation. I enjoy my first gen AirPods. The battery
>>>> life doesn't really bother me, but that's because I only use them a
>>>> certain amount.
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 29, 2019, at 6:08 PM, Alex Stone 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> I haven’t really been following this thread, but what do these AirPods
>>>> pro do that my current airpods2 dont?
>>>>
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
>>>> lenron brown 
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:19:06 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>>> Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available
>>>> October 30
>>>>
>>>> I normally end up doing the wear one at a time thing because of the
>>>> battery life. It kind of drives me nuts, I think I will glad a pair of
>>>> the over the ear beats that just came out at some point. Then again
>>>> the Bose might be a better choice, will do some testing. Anyways if
>>>> the batteries in the Airpods Pro are the same they are not all that
>>>> useful to me. Maybe in a few years we can get at least 10 hours.
>>>>
>>>> On 10/29/19, Keith Bierman  wrote:
>>>>> again, it's a matter of the load (how much processing there is) and
>>>>> the size of the battery. The more processing, the higher the load,
>>>>> the bigger the drain on the battery. hearing aides for small to
>>>>> medium hearing loss, not using wireless have pretty small demands on
>>>>> the battery. The more profound the loss, the more wireless activity,
>>>>> the higher the load. The apple airpods have (arguably) daft amounts
>>>>> of processing (but it's why they do seamless switching between
>>>>> devices and happily connect to their phone/ipad/laptop from many feet
>>>>> away).
>>>>&g

Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

[Angie Nutt]

Thanks for that; I read a review about them recently which, along with your 
impressions, makes me think I want a pair. 

All the best
Angie

> On 4 Nov 2019, at 18:19, Ed Worrell  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I just got my Air Pods Pro’s in the mail over the weekend. I am impressed 
> with them. The noice canceling feature is interesting and it will take some 
> getting used to. The Transparency mode is really cool. It allows your audio 
> such as music or even Voiceover to be heard with the audio around you ducking 
> under it so you can hear your surroundings. From what I can tell you only 
> lose about 20 mins off of the full charge when either mode is active. You get 
> the same battery life as the original Air Pods. I find the Pros to be much 
> more comfortable and I don’t have any soreness after wearing them for a 
> lengthily listen to my favorite music. They come with 3 different silicone 
> ear tips for a customizable fit.  The audio is 100 times better then the 
> original Air Pods. The new H1 chip for Siri and audio makes it so there is 
> very little or even no lag for voiceover users. Gestures and what is spoken 
> are in pretty good sync.
> 
> So far I really like them a lot.
> 
> Ed W.
> 
> 
>> On Oct 29, 2019, at 9:59 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> In addition to having active noise cancellation they are also a different 
>> design, the Airpods Pro have silicon tips, sit nside your ear canal  and 
>> completely seal your ear. They have apparently some mode where you are 
>> supposed to be able to hear what's going on around you through the 
>> microphones of these Airpods, but how realistic that represents what really 
>> goes on around you remains to be seen and I assume in this mode the few 
>> hours of battery life will be even further shortened.
>> At $249 US they certainly won't be on my "I wish I had those" list.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
>> Reyes
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 7:28 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available 
>> October 30
>> 
>>> They have noise cancellation. I enjoy my first gen AirPods. The battery 
>>> life doesn't really bother me, but that's because I only use them a certain 
>>> amount. 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 29, 2019, at 6:08 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I haven’t really been following this thread, but what do these AirPods pro 
>>> do that my current airpods2 dont?
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
>>> lenron brown 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:19:06 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available 
>>> October 30
>>> 
>>> I normally end up doing the wear one at a time thing because of the 
>>> battery life. It kind of drives me nuts, I think I will glad a pair of 
>>> the over the ear beats that just came out at some point. Then again 
>>> the Bose might be a better choice, will do some testing. Anyways if 
>>> the batteries in the Airpods Pro are the same they are not all that 
>>> useful to me. Maybe in a few years we can get at least 10 hours.
>>> 
>>> On 10/29/19, Keith Bierman  wrote:
>>>> again, it's a matter of the load (how much processing there is) and 
>>>> the size of the battery. The more processing, the higher the load, 
>>>> the bigger the drain on the battery. hearing aides for small to 
>>>> medium hearing loss, not using wireless have pretty small demands on 
>>>> the battery. The more profound the loss, the more wireless activity, 
>>>> the higher the load. The apple airpods have (arguably) daft amounts 
>>>> of processing (but it's why they do seamless switching between 
>>>> devices and happily connect to their phone/ipad/laptop from many feet 
>>>> away).
>>>> 
>>>> I'm not privy to the precise figures for any of the internals 
>>>> (hearing aid, cochlear processor, airpods) but the engineering 
>>>> trade-offs are pretty much textbook material for the fundamental 
>>>> considerations.  The internal details matter, a lot ... but without 
>>>> comparative teardowns, lab testing and instrumentation, it's all a 
>>>> bit handwavy ;>
>>>> 
>>>> In any event, as a consumer everyone needs to decide what meets
>>>> *their* requirements,
>>>> w.r.t. usage modes,

Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

[Ed Worrell]

Hello All,

I just got my Air Pods Pro’s in the mail over the weekend. I am impressed with 
them. The noice canceling feature is interesting and it will take some getting 
used to. The Transparency mode is really cool. It allows your audio such as 
music or even Voiceover to be heard with the audio around you ducking under it 
so you can hear your surroundings. From what I can tell you only lose about 20 
mins off of the full charge when either mode is active. You get the same 
battery life as the original Air Pods. I find the Pros to be much more 
comfortable and I don’t have any soreness after wearing them for a lengthily 
listen to my favorite music. They come with 3 different silicone ear tips for a 
customizable fit.  The audio is 100 times better then the original Air Pods. 
The new H1 chip for Siri and audio makes it so there is very little or even no 
lag for voiceover users. Gestures and what is spoken are in pretty good sync.

So far I really like them a lot.

Ed W.
 

> On Oct 29, 2019, at 9:59 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> In addition to having active noise cancellation they are also a different 
> design, the Airpods Pro have silicon tips, sit nside your ear canal  and 
> completely seal your ear. They have apparently some mode where you are 
> supposed to be able to hear what's going on around you through the 
> microphones of these Airpods, but how realistic that represents what really 
> goes on around you remains to be seen and I assume in this mode the few hours 
> of battery life will be even further shortened.
> At $249 US they certainly won't be on my "I wish I had those" list.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
> Reyes
> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 7:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 
> 30
> 
>> They have noise cancellation. I enjoy my first gen AirPods. The battery life 
>> doesn't really bother me, but that's because I only use them a certain 
>> amount. 
>> 
>> On Oct 29, 2019, at 6:08 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I haven’t really been following this thread, but what do these AirPods pro 
>> do that my current airpods2 dont?
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
>> lenron brown 
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:19:06 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available 
>> October 30
>> 
>> I normally end up doing the wear one at a time thing because of the 
>> battery life. It kind of drives me nuts, I think I will glad a pair of 
>> the over the ear beats that just came out at some point. Then again 
>> the Bose might be a better choice, will do some testing. Anyways if 
>> the batteries in the Airpods Pro are the same they are not all that 
>> useful to me. Maybe in a few years we can get at least 10 hours.
>> 
>> On 10/29/19, Keith Bierman  wrote:
>>> again, it's a matter of the load (how much processing there is) and 
>>> the size of the battery. The more processing, the higher the load, 
>>> the bigger the drain on the battery. hearing aides for small to 
>>> medium hearing loss, not using wireless have pretty small demands on 
>>> the battery. The more profound the loss, the more wireless activity, 
>>> the higher the load. The apple airpods have (arguably) daft amounts 
>>> of processing (but it's why they do seamless switching between 
>>> devices and happily connect to their phone/ipad/laptop from many feet away).
>>> 
>>> I'm not privy to the precise figures for any of the internals 
>>> (hearing aid, cochlear processor, airpods) but the engineering 
>>> trade-offs are pretty much textbook material for the fundamental 
>>> considerations.  The internal details matter, a lot ... but without 
>>> comparative teardowns, lab testing and instrumentation, it's all a 
>>> bit handwavy ;>
>>> 
>>> In any event, as a consumer everyone needs to decide what meets
>>> *their* requirements,
>>> w.r.t. usage modes, battery life, water resistance, etc.
>>> 
>>> Keith Bierman
>>> khb...@gmail.com
>>> 303 997 2749
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 10:16 AM Terri Hedgpeth  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> If that was correct, why than do rechargeable hearing aids last for 
>>>> days on a charge, and for four days on a small wafer battery?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On 
>>>> Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
>>&

RE: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

[Sieghard Weitzel]

In addition to having active noise cancellation they are also a different 
design, the Airpods Pro have silicon tips, sit nside your ear canal  and 
completely seal your ear. They have apparently some mode where you are supposed 
to be able to hear what's going on around you through the microphones of these 
Airpods, but how realistic that represents what really goes on around you 
remains to be seen and I assume in this mode the few hours of battery life will 
be even further shortened.
At $249 US they certainly won't be on my "I wish I had those" list.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
Reyes
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 7:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

> They have noise cancellation. I enjoy my first gen AirPods. The battery life 
> doesn't really bother me, but that's because I only use them a certain 
> amount. 
> 
> On Oct 29, 2019, at 6:08 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
> 
> 
> I haven’t really been following this thread, but what do these AirPods pro do 
> that my current airpods2 dont?
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
> lenron brown 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:19:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available 
> October 30
>  
> I normally end up doing the wear one at a time thing because of the 
> battery life. It kind of drives me nuts, I think I will glad a pair of 
> the over the ear beats that just came out at some point. Then again 
> the Bose might be a better choice, will do some testing. Anyways if 
> the batteries in the Airpods Pro are the same they are not all that 
> useful to me. Maybe in a few years we can get at least 10 hours.
> 
> On 10/29/19, Keith Bierman  wrote:
> > again, it's a matter of the load (how much processing there is) and 
> > the size of the battery. The more processing, the higher the load, 
> > the bigger the drain on the battery. hearing aides for small to 
> > medium hearing loss, not using wireless have pretty small demands on 
> > the battery. The more profound the loss, the more wireless activity, 
> > the higher the load. The apple airpods have (arguably) daft amounts 
> > of processing (but it's why they do seamless switching between 
> > devices and happily connect to their phone/ipad/laptop from many feet away).
> >
> > I'm not privy to the precise figures for any of the internals 
> > (hearing aid, cochlear processor, airpods) but the engineering 
> > trade-offs are pretty much textbook material for the fundamental 
> > considerations.  The internal details matter, a lot ... but without 
> > comparative teardowns, lab testing and instrumentation, it's all a 
> > bit handwavy ;>
> >
> > In any event, as a consumer everyone needs to decide what meets
> > *their* requirements,
> > w.r.t. usage modes, battery life, water resistance, etc.
> >
> > Keith Bierman
> > khb...@gmail.com
> > 303 997 2749
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 10:16 AM Terri Hedgpeth  wrote:
> >
> >> If that was correct, why than do rechargeable hearing aids last for 
> >> days on a charge, and for four days on a small wafer battery?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On 
> >> Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
> >> *Sent:* Monday, October 28, 2019 9:16 PM
> >> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> *Subject:* RE: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, 
> >> available October 30
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> It will be a long time before battery technology is advanced enough 
> >> to offer 8 or 10 hours in such a tiny design.
> >>
> >> Maybe they could design a hat with solar panels which wirelessly 
> >> charges your Airpods while they are in your ear. If you live in a 
> >> place with little sunshine that of course wouldn’t do you much 
> >> good. Oh, wait, they still have to invent it.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On 
> >> Behalf Of *Devin Prater
> >> *Sent:* Monday, October 28, 2019 11:20 AM
> >> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> *Subject:* Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, 
> >> available October 30
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Yeah, it sounded great, but still five hours of battery life… just 
> >> ruined it.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Oct 28, 2019, at 12:36 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>

Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

[Maria Reyes]

> They have noise cancellation. I enjoy my first gen AirPods. The battery life 
> doesn't really bother me, but that's because I only use them a certain 
> amount. 
> 
> On Oct 29, 2019, at 6:08 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
> 
> 
> I haven’t really been following this thread, but what do these AirPods pro do 
> that my current airpods2 dont?
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of lenron 
> brown 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:19:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 
> 30
>  
> I normally end up doing the wear one at a time thing because of the
> battery life. It kind of drives me nuts, I think I will glad a pair of
> the over the ear beats that just came out at some point. Then again
> the Bose might be a better choice, will do some testing. Anyways if
> the batteries in the Airpods Pro are the same they are not all that
> useful to me. Maybe in a few years we can get at least 10 hours.
> 
> On 10/29/19, Keith Bierman  wrote:
> > again, it's a matter of the load (how much processing there is) and the
> > size of the battery. The more processing, the higher the load, the bigger
> > the drain on the battery. hearing aides for small to medium hearing loss,
> > not using wireless have pretty small demands on the battery. The more
> > profound the loss, the more wireless activity, the higher the load. The
> > apple airpods have (arguably) daft amounts of processing (but it's why they
> > do seamless switching between devices and happily connect to their
> > phone/ipad/laptop from many feet away).
> >
> > I'm not privy to the precise figures for any of the internals (hearing aid,
> > cochlear processor, airpods) but the engineering trade-offs are pretty much
> > textbook material for the fundamental considerations.  The internal details
> > matter, a lot ... but without comparative teardowns, lab testing and
> > instrumentation, it's all a bit handwavy ;>
> >
> > In any event, as a consumer everyone needs to decide what meets
> > *their* requirements,
> > w.r.t. usage modes, battery life, water resistance, etc.
> >
> > Keith Bierman
> > khb...@gmail.com
> > 303 997 2749
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 10:16 AM Terri Hedgpeth  wrote:
> >
> >> If that was correct, why than do rechargeable hearing aids last for days
> >> on a charge, and for four days on a small wafer battery?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> >> *Sieghard Weitzel
> >> *Sent:* Monday, October 28, 2019 9:16 PM
> >> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> *Subject:* RE: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available
> >> October 30
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> It will be a long time before battery technology is advanced enough to
> >> offer 8 or 10 hours in such a tiny design.
> >>
> >> Maybe they could design a hat with solar panels which wirelessly charges
> >> your Airpods while they are in your ear. If you live in a place with
> >> little
> >> sunshine that of course wouldn’t do you much good. Oh, wait, they still
> >> have to invent it.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> >> *Devin Prater
> >> *Sent:* Monday, October 28, 2019 11:20 AM
> >> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> *Subject:* Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available
> >> October 30
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Yeah, it sounded great, but still five hours of battery life… just ruined
> >> it.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Oct 28, 2019, at 12:36 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I'm sharing this because the new Airpods Pro will be available October
> >> 30th and require iOS 13.2 according to the below article so hopefully iOS
> >> 13.2 will be out in the next day or two. I personally won't be spending
> >> $249 on a pair of earphones.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Alan Lemly
> >>
> >>
> >> *Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30*
> >> The all-new AirPods Pro are an exciting addition to the AirPods family
> >> that features Active Noise Cancellation and superior, immersive sound.
> >>
> >> Read in Apple Newsroom: https://apple.news/A0jp4O0LRRdqTqBtiNHjMvA
> >>
> >>
> >> Shared from Apple News <https://www.ap

Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

[Alex Stone]

I haven’t really been following this thread, but what do these AirPods pro do 
that my current airpods2 dont?


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of lenron 
brown 
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:19:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

I normally end up doing the wear one at a time thing because of the
battery life. It kind of drives me nuts, I think I will glad a pair of
the over the ear beats that just came out at some point. Then again
the Bose might be a better choice, will do some testing. Anyways if
the batteries in the Airpods Pro are the same they are not all that
useful to me. Maybe in a few years we can get at least 10 hours.

On 10/29/19, Keith Bierman  wrote:
> again, it's a matter of the load (how much processing there is) and the
> size of the battery. The more processing, the higher the load, the bigger
> the drain on the battery. hearing aides for small to medium hearing loss,
> not using wireless have pretty small demands on the battery. The more
> profound the loss, the more wireless activity, the higher the load. The
> apple airpods have (arguably) daft amounts of processing (but it's why they
> do seamless switching between devices and happily connect to their
> phone/ipad/laptop from many feet away).
>
> I'm not privy to the precise figures for any of the internals (hearing aid,
> cochlear processor, airpods) but the engineering trade-offs are pretty much
> textbook material for the fundamental considerations.  The internal details
> matter, a lot ... but without comparative teardowns, lab testing and
> instrumentation, it's all a bit handwavy ;>
>
> In any event, as a consumer everyone needs to decide what meets
> *their* requirements,
> w.r.t. usage modes, battery life, water resistance, etc.
>
> Keith Bierman
> khb...@gmail.com
> 303 997 2749
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 10:16 AM Terri Hedgpeth  wrote:
>
>> If that was correct, why than do rechargeable hearing aids last for days
>> on a charge, and for four days on a small wafer battery?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
>> *Sieghard Weitzel
>> *Sent:* Monday, October 28, 2019 9:16 PM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* RE: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available
>> October 30
>>
>>
>>
>> It will be a long time before battery technology is advanced enough to
>> offer 8 or 10 hours in such a tiny design.
>>
>> Maybe they could design a hat with solar panels which wirelessly charges
>> your Airpods while they are in your ear. If you live in a place with
>> little
>> sunshine that of course wouldn’t do you much good. Oh, wait, they still
>> have to invent it.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
>> *Devin Prater
>> *Sent:* Monday, October 28, 2019 11:20 AM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available
>> October 30
>>
>>
>>
>> Yeah, it sounded great, but still five hours of battery life… just ruined
>> it.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 28, 2019, at 12:36 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm sharing this because the new Airpods Pro will be available October
>> 30th and require iOS 13.2 according to the below article so hopefully iOS
>> 13.2 will be out in the next day or two. I personally won't be spending
>> $249 on a pair of earphones.
>>
>>
>>
>> Alan Lemly
>>
>>
>> *Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30*
>> The all-new AirPods Pro are an exciting addition to the AirPods family
>> that features Active Noise Cancellation and superior, immersive sound.
>>
>> Read in Apple Newsroom: https://apple.news/A0jp4O0LRRdqTqBtiNHjMvA
>>
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Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

[lenron brown]

I normally end up doing the wear one at a time thing because of the
battery life. It kind of drives me nuts, I think I will glad a pair of
the over the ear beats that just came out at some point. Then again
the Bose might be a better choice, will do some testing. Anyways if
the batteries in the Airpods Pro are the same they are not all that
useful to me. Maybe in a few years we can get at least 10 hours.

On 10/29/19, Keith Bierman  wrote:
> again, it's a matter of the load (how much processing there is) and the
> size of the battery. The more processing, the higher the load, the bigger
> the drain on the battery. hearing aides for small to medium hearing loss,
> not using wireless have pretty small demands on the battery. The more
> profound the loss, the more wireless activity, the higher the load. The
> apple airpods have (arguably) daft amounts of processing (but it's why they
> do seamless switching between devices and happily connect to their
> phone/ipad/laptop from many feet away).
>
> I'm not privy to the precise figures for any of the internals (hearing aid,
> cochlear processor, airpods) but the engineering trade-offs are pretty much
> textbook material for the fundamental considerations.  The internal details
> matter, a lot ... but without comparative teardowns, lab testing and
> instrumentation, it's all a bit handwavy ;>
>
> In any event, as a consumer everyone needs to decide what meets
> *their* requirements,
> w.r.t. usage modes, battery life, water resistance, etc.
>
> Keith Bierman
> khb...@gmail.com
> 303 997 2749
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 10:16 AM Terri Hedgpeth  wrote:
>
>> If that was correct, why than do rechargeable hearing aids last for days
>> on a charge, and for four days on a small wafer battery?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
>> *Sieghard Weitzel
>> *Sent:* Monday, October 28, 2019 9:16 PM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* RE: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available
>> October 30
>>
>>
>>
>> It will be a long time before battery technology is advanced enough to
>> offer 8 or 10 hours in such a tiny design.
>>
>> Maybe they could design a hat with solar panels which wirelessly charges
>> your Airpods while they are in your ear. If you live in a place with
>> little
>> sunshine that of course wouldn’t do you much good. Oh, wait, they still
>> have to invent it.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
>> *Devin Prater
>> *Sent:* Monday, October 28, 2019 11:20 AM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available
>> October 30
>>
>>
>>
>> Yeah, it sounded great, but still five hours of battery life… just ruined
>> it.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 28, 2019, at 12:36 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm sharing this because the new Airpods Pro will be available October
>> 30th and require iOS 13.2 according to the below article so hopefully iOS
>> 13.2 will be out in the next day or two. I personally won't be spending
>> $249 on a pair of earphones.
>>
>>
>>
>> Alan Lemly
>>
>>
>> *Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30*
>> The all-new AirPods Pro are an exciting addition to the AirPods family
>> that features Active Noise Cancellation and superior, immersive sound.
>>
>> Read in Apple Newsroom: https://apple.news/A0jp4O0LRRdqTqBtiNHjMvA
>>
>>
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>>
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Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

[Keith Bierman]

again, it's a matter of the load (how much processing there is) and the
size of the battery. The more processing, the higher the load, the bigger
the drain on the battery. hearing aides for small to medium hearing loss,
not using wireless have pretty small demands on the battery. The more
profound the loss, the more wireless activity, the higher the load. The
apple airpods have (arguably) daft amounts of processing (but it's why they
do seamless switching between devices and happily connect to their
phone/ipad/laptop from many feet away).

I'm not privy to the precise figures for any of the internals (hearing aid,
cochlear processor, airpods) but the engineering trade-offs are pretty much
textbook material for the fundamental considerations.  The internal details
matter, a lot ... but without comparative teardowns, lab testing and
instrumentation, it's all a bit handwavy ;>

In any event, as a consumer everyone needs to decide what meets
*their* requirements,
w.r.t. usage modes, battery life, water resistance, etc.

Keith Bierman
khb...@gmail.com
303 997 2749


On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 10:16 AM Terri Hedgpeth  wrote:

> If that was correct, why than do rechargeable hearing aids last for days
> on a charge, and for four days on a small wafer battery?
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Sieghard Weitzel
> *Sent:* Monday, October 28, 2019 9:16 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available
> October 30
>
>
>
> It will be a long time before battery technology is advanced enough to
> offer 8 or 10 hours in such a tiny design.
>
> Maybe they could design a hat with solar panels which wirelessly charges
> your Airpods while they are in your ear. If you live in a place with little
> sunshine that of course wouldn’t do you much good. Oh, wait, they still
> have to invent it.
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Devin Prater
> *Sent:* Monday, October 28, 2019 11:20 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available
> October 30
>
>
>
> Yeah, it sounded great, but still five hours of battery life… just ruined
> it.
>
>
>
> On Oct 28, 2019, at 12:36 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> I'm sharing this because the new Airpods Pro will be available October
> 30th and require iOS 13.2 according to the below article so hopefully iOS
> 13.2 will be out in the next day or two. I personally won't be spending
> $249 on a pair of earphones.
>
>
>
> Alan Lemly
>
>
> *Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30*
> The all-new AirPods Pro are an exciting addition to the AirPods family
> that features Active Noise Cancellation and superior, immersive sound.
>
> Read in Apple Newsroom: https://apple.news/A0jp4O0LRRdqTqBtiNHjMvA
>
>
> Shared from Apple News <https://www.apple.com/news>
>
>
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RE: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

[Terri Hedgpeth]

If that was correct, why than do rechargeable hearing aids last for days on a 
charge, and for four days on a small wafer battery?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 9:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

 

It will be a long time before battery technology is advanced enough to offer 8 
or 10 hours in such a tiny design.

Maybe they could design a hat with solar panels which wirelessly charges your 
Airpods while they are in your ear. If you live in a place with little sunshine 
that of course wouldn’t do you much good. Oh, wait, they still have to invent 
it.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 11:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

 

Yeah, it sounded great, but still five hours of battery life… just ruined it.

 

On Oct 28, 2019, at 12:36 PM, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

 

I'm sharing this because the new Airpods Pro will be available October 30th and 
require iOS 13.2 according to the below article so hopefully iOS 13.2 will be 
out in the next day or two. I personally won't be spending $249 on a pair of 
earphones.

 

Alan Lemly 


Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30
The all-new AirPods Pro are an exciting addition to the AirPods family that 
features Active Noise Cancellation and superior, immersive sound.

Read in Apple Newsroom: https://apple.news/A0jp4O0LRRdqTqBtiNHjMvA


Shared from Apple News <https://www.apple.com/news> 

 

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Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

[Keith Bierman]

It's a question of how much processing vs. how much battery. Apple packs a
interesting amount of compute into the little suckers. As for the
complaints about longevity, it all depends on usage patterns. I've got a
several year old pair of airpods which still hold a charge well. I tend to
use one at a time (mostly) and about two hours a day ... keeping them far
away from 0%. People who use both at the same time, running both down to
depletion ... will see substantially shorter lifespans.

My son's cochlear implant has batteries almost as large as my airpods
themselves, and are good for about a day's worth of use. They can also use
disposable batteries ... which happen to be the same as his hearing aide
(his loss in one ear is substantially less than the other). one battery
lasts about a month in the hearing aide ... and two last about 1 day in the
implant processor. Much of that delta is due to the extra computational
load, the rest is due to the energy required to communicate with the
implant.



Keith Bierman
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303 997 2749


On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 9:58 AM Kay Malmquist 
wrote:

> I guess my  only question is, why can hearing aids last for a few days on
> one charge and not these?
>
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
> Switch your mentality from "I'm broken and helpless," to "I'm growing and
> healing," and watch how fast your life changes, for the better.
> Unknown
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Sieghard Weitzel 
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Sent:* Monday, October 28, 2019 11:15 PM
> *Subject:* RE: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available
> October 30
>
> It will be a long time before battery technology is advanced enough to
> offer 8 or 10 hours in such a tiny design.
>
> Maybe they could design a hat with solar panels which wirelessly charges
> your Airpods while they are in your ear. If you live in a place with little
> sunshine that of course wouldn’t do you much good. Oh, wait, they still
> have to invent it.
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Devin Prater
> *Sent:* Monday, October 28, 2019 11:20 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available
> October 30
>
>
>
> Yeah, it sounded great, but still five hours of battery life… just ruined
> it.
>
>
>
> On Oct 28, 2019, at 12:36 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> I'm sharing this because the new Airpods Pro will be available October
> 30th and require iOS 13.2 according to the below article so hopefully iOS
> 13.2 will be out in the next day or two. I personally won't be spending
> $249 on a pair of earphones.
>
>
>
> Alan Lemly
>
>
> *Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30*
> The all-new AirPods Pro are an exciting addition to the AirPods family
> that features Active Noise Cancellation and superior, immersive sound.
>
> Read in Apple Newsroom: https://apple.news/A0jp4O0LRRdqTqBtiNHjMvA
>
>
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Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

[Kay Malmquist]

I guess my  only question is, why can hearing aids last for a few days on 
one charge and not these?

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
Switch your mentality from "I'm broken and helpless," to "I'm growing and 
healing," and watch how fast your life changes, for the better.
Unknown

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 11:15 PM
  Subject: RE: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available 
October 30


  It will be a long time before battery technology is advanced enough to 
offer 8 or 10 hours in such a tiny design.

  Maybe they could design a hat with solar panels which wirelessly charges 
your Airpods while they are in your ear. If you live in a place with little 
sunshine that of course wouldn’t do you much good. Oh, wait, they still have 
to invent it.



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Devin Prater
  Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 11:20 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available 
October 30



  Yeah, it sounded great, but still five hours of battery life… just ruined 
it.





On Oct 28, 2019, at 12:36 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:





I'm sharing this because the new Airpods Pro will be available October 
30th and require iOS 13.2 according to the below article so hopefully iOS 
13.2 will be out in the next day or two. I personally won't be spending $249 
on a pair of earphones.



Alan Lemly


Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30
The all-new AirPods Pro are an exciting addition to the AirPods family 
that features Active Noise Cancellation and superior, immersive sound.

Read in Apple Newsroom: https://apple.news/A0jp4O0LRRdqTqBtiNHjMvA


Shared from Apple News



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Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

[Pete Nalda]

Well, that’s about what we get now With the first series.

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> On Oct 28, 2019, at 1:20 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> Yeah, it sounded great, but still five hours of battery life… just ruined it.
> 
>> On Oct 28, 2019, at 12:36 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I'm sharing this because the new Airpods Pro will be available October 30th 
>> and require iOS 13.2 according to the below article so hopefully iOS 13.2 
>> will be out in the next day or two. I personally won't be spending $249 on a 
>> pair of earphones.
>> 
>> Alan Lemly 
>> 
>> Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30
>> The all-new AirPods Pro are an exciting addition to the AirPods family that 
>> features Active Noise Cancellation and superior, immersive sound.
>> 
>> Read in Apple Newsroom: https://apple.news/A0jp4O0LRRdqTqBtiNHjMvA
>> 
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RE: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It will be a long time before battery technology is advanced enough to offer 8 
or 10 hours in such a tiny design.
Maybe they could design a hat with solar panels which wirelessly charges your 
Airpods while they are in your ear. If you live in a place with little sunshine 
that of course wouldn’t do you much good. Oh, wait, they still have to invent 
it.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Devin 
Prater
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 11:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

Yeah, it sounded great, but still five hours of battery life… just ruined it.


On Oct 28, 2019, at 12:36 PM, Alan Lemly 
mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:


I'm sharing this because the new Airpods Pro will be available October 30th and 
require iOS 13.2 according to the below article so hopefully iOS 13.2 will be 
out in the next day or two. I personally won't be spending $249 on a pair of 
earphones.

Alan Lemly

Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30
The all-new AirPods Pro are an exciting addition to the AirPods family that 
features Active Noise Cancellation and superior, immersive sound.

Read in Apple Newsroom: https://apple.news/A0jp4O0LRRdqTqBtiNHjMvA


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RE: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

[Sieghard Weitzel]

All iPhones including the 11, 11 Pro and 11 Pro Max come with the usual wired 
Earpods.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
brown
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 1:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

wait the 11 doesn't come with a pair of headphones. Damn apple are some cheap 
asses. They don't mind charging you a bundle for a phone though. If the battery 
life is not any better would rather pay the extra 50 bucks and get the new 
beats. At least with those you can get at least 22 hours charge time

On 10/28/19, Devin Prater  wrote:
> Just letting you know, from what I’ve heard, the iPhone 11 do not come 
> with them, so presumably the 12 and onward won’t either.
>
>> On Oct 28, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Cristobal,
>>
>> I hear you. My wired Apple earpods work just fine, don't have to be 
>> charged, have easily accessible remote and volume buttons, and other 
>> than their wires catching on a kitchen drawer knob occasionally, meet 
>> my needs nicely. And they came free with my iPhone.
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 28, 2019, at 1:47 PM, Cristobal Muñoz > <mailto:cristobalm...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>> I’m sorry, but I just can’t bring myself to fork over $250 for 
>>> earphones that if I’m lucky, will give me 3 years of a good charge. 
>>> Paying $75 to
>>> $85 a year for basically a never ending earphone subscription 
>>> service… This is not a  treadmill I’m itching to jump on
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
>>> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 10:36 AM
>>> To: VIPhone Email List >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
>>> Subject: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available 
>>> October
>>> 30
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm sharing this because the new Airpods Pro will be available 
>>> October 30th and require iOS 13.2 according to the below article so 
>>> hopefully iOS
>>> 13.2 will be out in the next day or two. I personally won't be 
>>> spending
>>> $249 on a pair of earphones.
>>>
>>> Alan Lemly
>>>
>>> Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30 The all-new 
>>> AirPods Pro are an exciting addition to the AirPods family that 
>>> features Active Noise Cancellation and superior, immersive sound.
>>>
>>> Read in Apple Newsroom: https://apple.news/A0jp4O0LRRdqTqBtiNHjMvA
>>> <https://apple.news/A0jp4O0LRRdqTqBtiNHjMvA>
>>>
>>>
>>> Shared from Apple News <https://www.apple.com/news>
>>>
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Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

[Maria Reyes]

> My 11 Pro came with the lightning EarPods.
> 
> 
> On Oct 28, 2019, at 6:17 PM, lenron brown  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for confirming.
> 
> On 10/28/19, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
> Yes. The person below got confused with the iOS version and actual iPhone
> model. They still come with earpods.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Robin
> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 2:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available
> October 30
> 
> That has to be a MisTake, as I   believe  ALL of
> Apple's NEW iPhones come with a Pair of Wired Lightning Ear Buds in the Box
> & that  includes the following: the iPhone11 & iPhone11PRO MAX & the
> iPhone11PRO At 01:34 PM 10/28/2019, you wrote:
> wait the 11 doesn't come with a pair of headphones. Damn apple are some
> cheap asses. They don't mind charging you a bundle for a phone though.
> If the battery life is not any better would rather pay the extra 50
> bucks and get the new beats. At least with those you can get at least
> 22 hours charge time
> 
> On 10/28/19, Devin Prater  wrote:
> Just letting you know, from what I’ve
> heard, the iPhone 11 do not come with
> them, so presumably the 12 and onward won’t either.
> 
> On Oct 28, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> Cristobal,
> 
> I hear you. My wired Apple earpods work just fine, don't have to be
> charged, have easily accessible remote and volume buttons, and
> other than their wires catching on a kitchen drawer knob
> occasionally, meet my needs nicely. And they came free with my iPhone.
> 
> Alan
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 28, 2019, at 1:47 PM, Cristobal Muñoz
> mailto:cristobalm...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> I’m sorry, but I just can’t bring
> myself to fork over $250 for earphones
> that if I’m lucky, will give me 3 years of a good charge. Paying
> $75 to
> $85 a year for basically a never ending earphone subscription
> service… This is not a  treadmill I’m itching to jump on
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 10:36 AM
> To: VIPhone Email List  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available
> October
> 30
> 
> 
> I'm sharing this because the new Airpods Pro will be available
> October 30th and require iOS 13.2 according to the below article
> so hopefully iOS
> 13.2 will be out in the next day or two. I personally won't be
> spending
> $249 on a pair of earphones.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30 The all-new
> AirPods Pro are an exciting addition to the AirPods family that
> features Active Noise Cancellation and superior, immersive sound.
> 
> Read in Apple Newsroom: https://apple.news/A0jp4O0LRRdqTqBtiNHjMvA
> <https://apple.news/A0jp4O0LRRdqTqBtiNHjMvA>
> 
> 
> Shared from Apple News <https://www.apple.com/news>
> 
> 
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Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

[Viola]

My Phone came with EarBuds.

-Original Message- 
From: Robin

Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 2:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available 
October 30


That has to be a MisTake, as I   believe  ALL of
Apple's NEW iPhones come with a Pair of Wired
Lightning Ear Buds in the Box & that  includes
the following: the iPhone11 & iPhone11PRO MAX & the  iPhone11PRO
At 01:34 PM 10/28/2019, you wrote:

wait the 11 doesn't come with a pair of headphones. Damn apple are
some cheap asses. They don't mind charging you a bundle for a phone
though. If the battery life is not any better would rather pay the
extra 50 bucks and get the new beats. At least with those you can get
at least 22 hours charge time

On 10/28/19, Devin Prater  wrote:
> Just letting you know, from what I’ve
heard, the iPhone 11 do not come with
> them, so presumably the 12 and onward won’t either.
>
>> On Oct 28, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Cristobal,
>>
>> I hear you. My wired Apple earpods work just fine, don't have to be
>> charged, have easily accessible remote and volume buttons, and other 
>> than
>> their wires catching on a kitchen drawer knob occasionally, meet my 
>> needs

>> nicely. And they came free with my iPhone.
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 28, 2019, at 1:47 PM, Cristobal Muñoz > <mailto:cristobalm...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>> I’m sorry, but I just can’t bring
myself to fork over $250 for earphones
>>> that if I’m lucky, will give me 3 years of a good charge. Paying $75 
>>> to

>>> $85 a year for basically a never ending earphone subscription service…
>>> This is not a  treadmill I’m itching to jump on
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
>>> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 10:36 AM
>>> To: VIPhone Email List >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
>>> Subject: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available 
>>> October

>>> 30
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm sharing this because the new Airpods Pro will be available October
>>> 30th and require iOS 13.2 according to the below article so hopefully 
>>> iOS
>>> 13.2 will be out in the next day or two. I personally won't be 
>>> spending

>>> $249 on a pair of earphones.
>>>
>>> Alan Lemly
>>>
>>> Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30
>>> The all-new AirPods Pro are an exciting addition to the AirPods family
>>> that features Active Noise Cancellation and superior, immersive sound.
>>>
>>> Read in Apple Newsroom: https://apple.news/A0jp4O0LRRdqTqBtiNHjMvA
>>> <https://apple.news/A0jp4O0LRRdqTqBtiNHjMvA>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
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Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

[lenron brown]

Thanks for confirming.

On 10/28/19, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
> Yes. The person below got confused with the iOS version and actual iPhone
> model. They still come with earpods.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Robin
> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 2:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available
> October 30
>
> That has to be a MisTake, as I   believe  ALL of
> Apple's NEW iPhones come with a Pair of Wired Lightning Ear Buds in the Box
> & that  includes the following: the iPhone11 & iPhone11PRO MAX & the
> iPhone11PRO At 01:34 PM 10/28/2019, you wrote:
>>wait the 11 doesn't come with a pair of headphones. Damn apple are some
>>cheap asses. They don't mind charging you a bundle for a phone though.
>>If the battery life is not any better would rather pay the extra 50
>>bucks and get the new beats. At least with those you can get at least
>>22 hours charge time
>>
>>On 10/28/19, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> > Just letting you know, from what I’ve
>> heard, the iPhone 11 do not come with
>> > them, so presumably the 12 and onward won’t either.
>> >
>> >> On Oct 28, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Cristobal,
>> >>
>> >> I hear you. My wired Apple earpods work just fine, don't have to be
>> >> charged, have easily accessible remote and volume buttons, and
>> >> other than their wires catching on a kitchen drawer knob
>> >> occasionally, meet my needs nicely. And they came free with my iPhone.
>> >>
>> >> Alan
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >> On Oct 28, 2019, at 1:47 PM, Cristobal Muñoz
>> >> mailto:cristobalm...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I’m sorry, but I just can’t bring
>> myself to fork over $250 for earphones
>> >>> that if I’m lucky, will give me 3 years of a good charge. Paying
>> >>> $75 to
>> >>> $85 a year for basically a never ending earphone subscription
>> >>> service… This is not a  treadmill I’m itching to jump on
>> >>>
>> >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> >>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> >>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
>> >>> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 10:36 AM
>> >>> To: VIPhone Email List > >>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
>> >>> Subject: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available
>> >>> October
>> >>> 30
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm sharing this because the new Airpods Pro will be available
>> >>> October 30th and require iOS 13.2 according to the below article
>> >>> so hopefully iOS
>> >>> 13.2 will be out in the next day or two. I personally won't be
>> >>> spending
>> >>> $249 on a pair of earphones.
>> >>>
>> >>> Alan Lemly
>> >>>
>> >>> Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30 The all-new
>> >>> AirPods Pro are an exciting addition to the AirPods family that
>> >>> features Active Noise Cancellation and superior, immersive sound.
>> >>>
>> >>> Read in Apple Newsroom: https://apple.news/A0jp4O0LRRdqTqBtiNHjMvA
>> >>> <https://apple.news/A0jp4O0LRRdqTqBtiNHjMvA>
>> >>>
>> >>>
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RE: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Yes. The person below got confused with the iOS version and actual iPhone 
model. They still come with earpods.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 2:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

That has to be a MisTake, as I   believe  ALL of 
Apple's NEW iPhones come with a Pair of Wired Lightning Ear Buds in the Box & 
that  includes the following: the iPhone11 & iPhone11PRO MAX & the  iPhone11PRO 
At 01:34 PM 10/28/2019, you wrote:
>wait the 11 doesn't come with a pair of headphones. Damn apple are some 
>cheap asses. They don't mind charging you a bundle for a phone though. 
>If the battery life is not any better would rather pay the extra 50 
>bucks and get the new beats. At least with those you can get at least 
>22 hours charge time
>
>On 10/28/19, Devin Prater  wrote:
> > Just letting you know, from what I’ve
> heard, the iPhone 11 do not come with
> > them, so presumably the 12 and onward won’t either.
> >
> >> On Oct 28, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Cristobal,
> >>
> >> I hear you. My wired Apple earpods work just fine, don't have to be 
> >> charged, have easily accessible remote and volume buttons, and 
> >> other than their wires catching on a kitchen drawer knob 
> >> occasionally, meet my needs nicely. And they came free with my iPhone.
> >>
> >> Alan
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Oct 28, 2019, at 1:47 PM, Cristobal Muñoz 
> >> mailto:cristobalm...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I’m sorry, but I just can’t bring
> myself to fork over $250 for earphones
> >>> that if I’m lucky, will give me 3 years of a good charge. Paying 
> >>> $75 to
> >>> $85 a year for basically a never ending earphone subscription 
> >>> service… This is not a  treadmill I’m itching to jump on
> >>>
> >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
> >>> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 10:36 AM
> >>> To: VIPhone Email List  >>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
> >>> Subject: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available 
> >>> October
> >>> 30
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I'm sharing this because the new Airpods Pro will be available 
> >>> October 30th and require iOS 13.2 according to the below article 
> >>> so hopefully iOS
> >>> 13.2 will be out in the next day or two. I personally won't be 
> >>> spending
> >>> $249 on a pair of earphones.
> >>>
> >>> Alan Lemly
> >>>
> >>> Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30 The all-new 
> >>> AirPods Pro are an exciting addition to the AirPods family that 
> >>> features Active Noise Cancellation and superior, immersive sound.
> >>>
> >>> Read in Apple Newsroom: https://apple.news/A0jp4O0LRRdqTqBtiNHjMvA
> >>> <https://apple.news/A0jp4O0LRRdqTqBtiNHjMvA>
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

[Robin]

That has to be a MisTake, as I   believe  ALL of 
Apple's NEW iPhones come with a Pair of Wired 
Lightning Ear Buds in the Box & that  includes 
the following: the iPhone11 & iPhone11PRO MAX & the  iPhone11PRO

At 01:34 PM 10/28/2019, you wrote:

wait the 11 doesn't come with a pair of headphones. Damn apple are
some cheap asses. They don't mind charging you a bundle for a phone
though. If the battery life is not any better would rather pay the
extra 50 bucks and get the new beats. At least with those you can get
at least 22 hours charge time

On 10/28/19, Devin Prater  wrote:
> Just letting you know, from what I’ve 
heard, the iPhone 11 do not come with

> them, so presumably the 12 and onward won’t either.
>
>> On Oct 28, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Cristobal,
>>
>> I hear you. My wired Apple earpods work just fine, don't have to be
>> charged, have easily accessible remote and volume buttons, and other than
>> their wires catching on a kitchen drawer knob occasionally, meet my needs
>> nicely. And they came free with my iPhone.
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 28, 2019, at 1:47 PM, Cristobal Muñoz > > wrote:
>>
>>> I’m sorry, but I just can’t bring 
myself to fork over $250 for earphones

>>> that if I’m lucky, will give me 3 years of a good charge. Paying $75 to
>>> $85 a year for basically a never ending earphone subscription service…
>>> This is not a  treadmill I’m itching to jump on
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> >> > On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
>>> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 10:36 AM
>>> To: VIPhone Email List >> >
>>> Subject: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October
>>> 30
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm sharing this because the new Airpods Pro will be available October
>>> 30th and require iOS 13.2 according to the below article so hopefully iOS
>>> 13.2 will be out in the next day or two. I personally won't be spending
>>> $249 on a pair of earphones.
>>>
>>> Alan Lemly
>>>
>>> Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30
>>> The all-new AirPods Pro are an exciting addition to the AirPods family
>>> that features Active Noise Cancellation and superior, immersive sound.
>>>
>>> Read in Apple Newsroom: https://apple.news/A0jp4O0LRRdqTqBtiNHjMvA
>>> 
>>>
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Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

[lenron brown]

wait the 11 doesn't come with a pair of headphones. Damn apple are
some cheap asses. They don't mind charging you a bundle for a phone
though. If the battery life is not any better would rather pay the
extra 50 bucks and get the new beats. At least with those you can get
at least 22 hours charge time

On 10/28/19, Devin Prater  wrote:
> Just letting you know, from what I’ve heard, the iPhone 11 do not come with
> them, so presumably the 12 and onward won’t either.
>
>> On Oct 28, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Cristobal,
>>
>> I hear you. My wired Apple earpods work just fine, don't have to be
>> charged, have easily accessible remote and volume buttons, and other than
>> their wires catching on a kitchen drawer knob occasionally, meet my needs
>> nicely. And they came free with my iPhone.
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 28, 2019, at 1:47 PM, Cristobal Muñoz > > wrote:
>>
>>> I’m sorry, but I just can’t bring myself to fork over $250 for earphones
>>> that if I’m lucky, will give me 3 years of a good charge. Paying $75 to
>>> $85 a year for basically a never ending earphone subscription service…
>>> This is not a  treadmill I’m itching to jump on
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> >> > On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
>>> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 10:36 AM
>>> To: VIPhone Email List >> >
>>> Subject: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October
>>> 30
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm sharing this because the new Airpods Pro will be available October
>>> 30th and require iOS 13.2 according to the below article so hopefully iOS
>>> 13.2 will be out in the next day or two. I personally won't be spending
>>> $249 on a pair of earphones.
>>>
>>> Alan Lemly
>>>
>>> Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30
>>> The all-new AirPods Pro are an exciting addition to the AirPods family
>>> that features Active Noise Cancellation and superior, immersive sound.
>>>
>>> Read in Apple Newsroom: https://apple.news/A0jp4O0LRRdqTqBtiNHjMvA
>>> 
>>>
>>>
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Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

[Devin Prater]

Just letting you know, from what I’ve heard, the iPhone 11 do not come with 
them, so presumably the 12 and onward won’t either. 

> On Oct 28, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> Cristobal,
> 
> I hear you. My wired Apple earpods work just fine, don't have to be charged, 
> have easily accessible remote and volume buttons, and other than their wires 
> catching on a kitchen drawer knob occasionally, meet my needs nicely. And 
> they came free with my iPhone.
> 
> Alan  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 28, 2019, at 1:47 PM, Cristobal Muñoz  > wrote:
> 
>> I’m sorry, but I just can’t bring myself to fork over $250 for earphones 
>> that if I’m lucky, will give me 3 years of a good charge. Paying $75 to $85 
>> a year for basically a never ending earphone subscription service… This is 
>> not a  treadmill I’m itching to jump on
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> > > On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
>> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 10:36 AM
>> To: VIPhone Email List > >
>> Subject: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30
>>  
>>  
>> I'm sharing this because the new Airpods Pro will be available October 30th 
>> and require iOS 13.2 according to the below article so hopefully iOS 13.2 
>> will be out in the next day or two. I personally won't be spending $249 on a 
>> pair of earphones.
>>  
>> Alan Lemly 
>> 
>> Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30
>> The all-new AirPods Pro are an exciting addition to the AirPods family that 
>> features Active Noise Cancellation and superior, immersive sound.
>> 
>> Read in Apple Newsroom: https://apple.news/A0jp4O0LRRdqTqBtiNHjMvA 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

[Alan Lemly]

Cristobal,

I hear you. My wired Apple earpods work just fine, don't have to be charged, 
have easily accessible remote and volume buttons, and other than their wires 
catching on a kitchen drawer knob occasionally, meet my needs nicely. And they 
came free with my iPhone.

Alan  

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 28, 2019, at 1:47 PM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
> 
> I’m sorry, but I just can’t bring myself to fork over $250 for earphones that 
> if I’m lucky, will give me 3 years of a good charge. Paying $75 to $85 a year 
> for basically a never ending earphone subscription service… This is not a  
> treadmill I’m itching to jump on
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
> Lemly
> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 10:36 AM
> To: VIPhone Email List 
> Subject: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30
>  
>  
> I'm sharing this because the new Airpods Pro will be available October 30th 
> and require iOS 13.2 according to the below article so hopefully iOS 13.2 
> will be out in the next day or two. I personally won't be spending $249 on a 
> pair of earphones.
>  
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30
> The all-new AirPods Pro are an exciting addition to the AirPods family that 
> features Active Noise Cancellation and superior, immersive sound.
> 
> Read in Apple Newsroom: https://apple.news/A0jp4O0LRRdqTqBtiNHjMvA
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RE: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

[Cristobal Muñoz]

I’m sorry, but I just can’t bring myself to fork over $250 for earphones that 
if I’m lucky, will give me 3 years of a good charge. Paying $75 to $85 a year 
for basically a never ending earphone subscription service… This is not a  
treadmill I’m itching to jump on

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 10:36 AM
To: VIPhone Email List 
Subject: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

 

 

I'm sharing this because the new Airpods Pro will be available October 30th and 
require iOS 13.2 according to the below article so hopefully iOS 13.2 will be 
out in the next day or two. I personally won't be spending $249 on a pair of 
earphones.

 

Alan Lemly 


Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30
The all-new AirPods Pro are an exciting addition to the AirPods family that 
features Active Noise Cancellation and superior, immersive sound.

Read in Apple Newsroom: https://apple.news/A0jp4O0LRRdqTqBtiNHjMvA


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Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

[Devin Prater]

Yeah, it sounded great, but still five hours of battery life… just ruined it.

> On Oct 28, 2019, at 12:36 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm sharing this because the new Airpods Pro will be available October 30th 
> and require iOS 13.2 according to the below article so hopefully iOS 13.2 
> will be out in the next day or two. I personally won't be spending $249 on a 
> pair of earphones.
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30
> The all-new AirPods Pro are an exciting addition to the AirPods family that 
> features Active Noise Cancellation and superior, immersive sound.
> 
> Read in Apple Newsroom: https://apple.news/A0jp4O0LRRdqTqBtiNHjMvA 
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