RE: Advocating for VO Accessibility

2014-08-12 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michelle Bernstein Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 2:45 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Advocating for VO Accessibility The bard mobile app is easy to locate I agree. The nfb Newsline was not, for me, when I

Advocating for VO Accessibility

2014-08-11 Thread Brice Smith
Hello, everyone. What resources do you use to explain Voiceover to application developers? When contacting people to ask for accessibility, how much explaining is typically required to get the ball rolling? Do you find that this process takes a lot of explaining, or does simply mentioning VO get

Advocating for VO Accessibility

2014-08-11 Thread Michelle Bernstein
It in interesting to me that even when I contact the apple accessibility telephone number, I have to explain the apps that I am asking for help with accessing. Two recent examples are the Bard mobile app and the nfb Newsline app. In the case of the nfb Newsline app, the only way that I could

RE: Advocating for VO Accessibility

2014-08-11 Thread Alan Lemly
: Monday, August 11, 2014 3:00 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Advocating for VO Accessibility Hello, everyone. What resources do you use to explain Voiceover to application developers? When contacting people to ask for accessibility, how much explaining is typically required to get the ball

Re: Advocating for VO Accessibility

2014-08-11 Thread Cheryl Homiak
hmmm, maybe these got changed. I just went to the app store on my iPhone and NFB Newsline was the third choice when I typed nfb and bard mobile was the second choice when I typed bard. I then tried the same searches on my iPad with the same results. So maybe something has been changed since you

Re: Advocating for VO Accessibility

2014-08-11 Thread Michelle Bernstein
The bard mobile app is easy to locate I agree. The nfb Newsline was not, for me, when I searched nfb or national federation of the blind in the iTunes Store and the App Store. What was surprising to me was that these apps were not familiar to the people who answered the apple accessibility

Re: Advocating for VO Accessibility

2014-08-11 Thread Teresa Cochran
To my way of thinking, Apple *facilitates accessibility in third-party apps, and not all of the reps at the accessibility service number will necessarily know all of the specific blindness-related apps. this is not to say that they shouldn't be familiarized with them to some extent. However,

RE: Advocating for VO Accessibility

2014-08-11 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
in the past. I guess a lot depends upon with whom you get on the other end of the line. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 7:24 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Advocating for VO Accessibility To my way

Re: Advocating for VO Accessibility

2014-08-11 Thread David Chittenden
One key, that people forget, is to always press search in the lower right corner of the keyboard, or enter on the bluetooth keyboard, when searching for an app in the App Store. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 12 Aug

Re: Advocating for VO Accessibility

2014-08-11 Thread David Chittenden
Both apps you mention are third-party apps, so are not Apple's responsibility. I would not expect Apple Accessibility to know third-party apps any more than I would expect you to know how to program my washing machine. For assistance with third-party apps, one must always contact the app

Re: Advocating for VO Accessibility

2014-08-11 Thread Kelly Pierce
I have been advocating for increased technology access for 25 years now. In the process, I have piled up a number of advocacy successes from talking ATMs by the biggest banks to accessible audio interfaces of voting machines to audio description at movie theaters. I have been a moving force that

Re: Advocating for VO Accessibility

2014-08-11 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I didn't have to do that in order to find the bard mobile app or the nfb newsline app. Usually I start out by not tapping search; then if I don't see my choice I tap it just to be sure. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in