Re: Explanation to all of you who are confused about the iOS 7 TTS voices
It should be downloaded automatically. If not, you can go into Settings - General - Accessibility - VoiceOver On - Languages and Dialects and make sure enhanced is enabled and the voice will start downloading if it hasn't already been downloaded. On 09/21/2013 09:38 PM, cnmyh...@gmail.com wrote: How and where can you do that? Celeste N. MyHand ☺If it is to be, it is up to me. On 20 Sep 2013, at 6:31 pm, Adi Kushnir adikush...@gmail.com wrote: Yes guies, The commpact voices of Vocalizer Expressive are very bad. I recommend you to download the HQ voices. In iOS 6, it downloaded the HQ voice after the phone was plugged in and connected to wi-fi for the first time, same true for 7. 2013/9/21, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com: When I upgraded to IOS 7, it did default to the HQ voice for me. I wasn't paying too close attention, and it might have been using the compact voice until the HQ voice had a chance to download. I was using the HQ voice before too long though, and when I went into the Languages and Dialects settings, enhanced was already on and the use compact voice option was off in my VO settings. On 09/20/2013 04:50 PM, Troy Sullivan wrote: Anyone know why apple did not have the hq voice already defaulted like in previous versions? - Original Message - From: Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Explanation to all of you who are confused about the iOS 7 TTS voices I don't like any of the compact voices, they sound like they are trapped in a box. Higher quality voices take up more space of course, but it's worth it, hands down. Original message: Thank you for sharing. I absolutely cannot stand the compact British English voice. Sounds like Daniel with well I don't know, cinucitis maybe! Lol! But the one compact voice I do like is Irish English. Not really tried the Australian and U.S. English voices yet in compact mode. On 20/09/2013 00:22, Adi Kushnir wrote: Hi all, As one who uses the new Nuance Vocalizer Expressive voices to develop with them for other platforms, I wanna to explain to you all, what are the iOS 7 voices and which of them are being used when. So, let's start from sirie: The new and better Sirie voices are not Vocalizer Expressive voices. These are custom voices that Nuance or some other company makes a specially for Apple, I think it's Nuance because Apple always works with them on TTS related stuff. Now, let's move on to VoiceOver: In iOS 6, Apple used the Nuance Vocalizer for automotive version 5.5 platform for it's screen reader and Sirie. Since Nuance stopped supporting and developing Vocalizer for Automotive, and released Vocalizer Expressive, in iOS 7, Apple has swiched to using these voices for VoiceOver. Most of them sound the same as the previous generation of Vocalizer, such as Samantha Premium for example, they just read longer texts better. The Vocalizer Expressive platform contains some new and very expressive voices, but Apple decided to use the ones that wer already available, because they are still offerd with Vocalizer Expressive, or VE for short. Some other facts that thanks to them you can know it's the new Expressive version, are the bad compact voices, a specially Daniel, and the new voices for some languages such as Arabic, they have replaced Maged with Tarik for this language because Nuance doesn't offer Maged any more. Vocalizer Expressive has a Hebrew voice as well, so I hope Apple will add it soon too:) (Smile). Hope now you understand it better.. Adi. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because
RE: Explanation to all of you who are confused about the iOS 7 TTS voices
Hi Chris, I agree about Compact Daniel; he sounds rather like the high-quality Nokia voice I had on the E7. The Australian and US voices aren't too bad, and I'm sure their HQ voices would sound fine. Cheers, Mike -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris H Sent: 20 September 2013 19:25 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Explanation to all of you who are confused about the iOS 7 TTS voices Thank you for sharing. I absolutely cannot stand the compact British English voice. Sounds like Daniel with well I don't know, cinucitis maybe! Lol! But the one compact voice I do like is Irish English. Not really tried the Australian and U.S. English voices yet in compact mode. On 20/09/2013 00:22, Adi Kushnir wrote: Hi all, As one who uses the new Nuance Vocalizer Expressive voices to develop with them for other platforms, I wanna to explain to you all, what are the iOS 7 voices and which of them are being used when. So, let's start from sirie: The new and better Sirie voices are not Vocalizer Expressive voices. These are custom voices that Nuance or some other company makes a specially for Apple, I think it's Nuance because Apple always works with them on TTS related stuff. Now, let's move on to VoiceOver: In iOS 6, Apple used the Nuance Vocalizer for automotive version 5.5 platform for it's screen reader and Sirie. Since Nuance stopped supporting and developing Vocalizer for Automotive, and released Vocalizer Expressive, in iOS 7, Apple has swiched to using these voices for VoiceOver. Most of them sound the same as the previous generation of Vocalizer, such as Samantha Premium for example, they just read longer texts better. The Vocalizer Expressive platform contains some new and very expressive voices, but Apple decided to use the ones that wer already available, because they are still offerd with Vocalizer Expressive, or VE for short. Some other facts that thanks to them you can know it's the new Expressive version, are the bad compact voices, a specially Daniel, and the new voices for some languages such as Arabic, they have replaced Maged with Tarik for this language because Nuance doesn't offer Maged any more. Vocalizer Expressive has a Hebrew voice as well, so I hope Apple will add it soon too:) (Smile). Hope now you understand it better.. Adi. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Explanation to all of you who are confused about the iOS 7 TTS voices
Hi Adi: The new Arabic voice Tarik which replaced Majed is terrible, :-) Also, I tested the enhanced Australian voice but quickly went back to the compact voice as the enhanced did not sound as good. to me. Cheers, On 20/09/2013 00:22, Adi Kushnir wrote: Hi all, As one who uses the new Nuance Vocalizer Expressive voices to develop with them for other platforms, I wanna to explain to you all, what are the iOS 7 voices and which of them are being used when. So, let's start from sirie: The new and better Sirie voices are not Vocalizer Expressive voices. These are custom voices that Nuance or some other company makes a specially for Apple, I think it's Nuance because Apple always works with them on TTS related stuff. Now, let's move on to VoiceOver: In iOS 6, Apple used the Nuance Vocalizer for automotive version 5.5 platform for it's screen reader and Sirie. Since Nuance stopped supporting and developing Vocalizer for Automotive, and released Vocalizer Expressive, in iOS 7, Apple has swiched to using these voices for VoiceOver. Most of them sound the same as the previous generation of Vocalizer, such as Samantha Premium for example, they just read longer texts better. The Vocalizer Expressive platform contains some new and very expressive voices, but Apple decided to use the ones that wer already available, because they are still offerd with Vocalizer Expressive, or VE for short. Some other facts that thanks to them you can know it's the new Expressive version, are the bad compact voices, a specially Daniel, and the new voices for some languages such as Arabic, they have replaced Maged with Tarik for this language because Nuance doesn't offer Maged any more. Vocalizer Expressive has a Hebrew voice as well, so I hope Apple will add it soon too:) (Smile). Hope now you understand it better.. Adi. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Explanation to all of you who are confused about the iOS 7 TTS voices
Yes guies, The commpact voices of Vocalizer Expressive are very bad. I recommend you to download the HQ voices. In iOS 6, it downloaded the HQ voice after the phone was plugged in and connected to wi-fi for the first time, same true for 7. 2013/9/21, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com: When I upgraded to IOS 7, it did default to the HQ voice for me. I wasn't paying too close attention, and it might have been using the compact voice until the HQ voice had a chance to download. I was using the HQ voice before too long though, and when I went into the Languages and Dialects settings, enhanced was already on and the use compact voice option was off in my VO settings. On 09/20/2013 04:50 PM, Troy Sullivan wrote: Anyone know why apple did not have the hq voice already defaulted like in previous versions? - Original Message - From: Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Explanation to all of you who are confused about the iOS 7 TTS voices I don't like any of the compact voices, they sound like they are trapped in a box. Higher quality voices take up more space of course, but it's worth it, hands down. Original message: Thank you for sharing. I absolutely cannot stand the compact British English voice. Sounds like Daniel with well I don't know, cinucitis maybe! Lol! But the one compact voice I do like is Irish English. Not really tried the Australian and U.S. English voices yet in compact mode. On 20/09/2013 00:22, Adi Kushnir wrote: Hi all, As one who uses the new Nuance Vocalizer Expressive voices to develop with them for other platforms, I wanna to explain to you all, what are the iOS 7 voices and which of them are being used when. So, let's start from sirie: The new and better Sirie voices are not Vocalizer Expressive voices. These are custom voices that Nuance or some other company makes a specially for Apple, I think it's Nuance because Apple always works with them on TTS related stuff. Now, let's move on to VoiceOver: In iOS 6, Apple used the Nuance Vocalizer for automotive version 5.5 platform for it's screen reader and Sirie. Since Nuance stopped supporting and developing Vocalizer for Automotive, and released Vocalizer Expressive, in iOS 7, Apple has swiched to using these voices for VoiceOver. Most of them sound the same as the previous generation of Vocalizer, such as Samantha Premium for example, they just read longer texts better. The Vocalizer Expressive platform contains some new and very expressive voices, but Apple decided to use the ones that wer already available, because they are still offerd with Vocalizer Expressive, or VE for short. Some other facts that thanks to them you can know it's the new Expressive version, are the bad compact voices, a specially Daniel, and the new voices for some languages such as Arabic, they have replaced Maged with Tarik for this language because Nuance doesn't offer Maged any more. Vocalizer Expressive has a Hebrew voice as well, so I hope Apple will add it soon too:) (Smile). Hope now you understand it better.. Adi. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to
Re: Explanation to all of you who are confused about the iOS 7 TTS voices
How and where can you do that? Celeste N. MyHand ☺If it is to be, it is up to me. On 20 Sep 2013, at 6:31 pm, Adi Kushnir adikush...@gmail.com wrote: Yes guies, The commpact voices of Vocalizer Expressive are very bad. I recommend you to download the HQ voices. In iOS 6, it downloaded the HQ voice after the phone was plugged in and connected to wi-fi for the first time, same true for 7. 2013/9/21, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com: When I upgraded to IOS 7, it did default to the HQ voice for me. I wasn't paying too close attention, and it might have been using the compact voice until the HQ voice had a chance to download. I was using the HQ voice before too long though, and when I went into the Languages and Dialects settings, enhanced was already on and the use compact voice option was off in my VO settings. On 09/20/2013 04:50 PM, Troy Sullivan wrote: Anyone know why apple did not have the hq voice already defaulted like in previous versions? - Original Message - From: Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Explanation to all of you who are confused about the iOS 7 TTS voices I don't like any of the compact voices, they sound like they are trapped in a box. Higher quality voices take up more space of course, but it's worth it, hands down. Original message: Thank you for sharing. I absolutely cannot stand the compact British English voice. Sounds like Daniel with well I don't know, cinucitis maybe! Lol! But the one compact voice I do like is Irish English. Not really tried the Australian and U.S. English voices yet in compact mode. On 20/09/2013 00:22, Adi Kushnir wrote: Hi all, As one who uses the new Nuance Vocalizer Expressive voices to develop with them for other platforms, I wanna to explain to you all, what are the iOS 7 voices and which of them are being used when. So, let's start from sirie: The new and better Sirie voices are not Vocalizer Expressive voices. These are custom voices that Nuance or some other company makes a specially for Apple, I think it's Nuance because Apple always works with them on TTS related stuff. Now, let's move on to VoiceOver: In iOS 6, Apple used the Nuance Vocalizer for automotive version 5.5 platform for it's screen reader and Sirie. Since Nuance stopped supporting and developing Vocalizer for Automotive, and released Vocalizer Expressive, in iOS 7, Apple has swiched to using these voices for VoiceOver. Most of them sound the same as the previous generation of Vocalizer, such as Samantha Premium for example, they just read longer texts better. The Vocalizer Expressive platform contains some new and very expressive voices, but Apple decided to use the ones that wer already available, because they are still offerd with Vocalizer Expressive, or VE for short. Some other facts that thanks to them you can know it's the new Expressive version, are the bad compact voices, a specially Daniel, and the new voices for some languages such as Arabic, they have replaced Maged with Tarik for this language because Nuance doesn't offer Maged any more. Vocalizer Expressive has a Hebrew voice as well, so I hope Apple will add it soon too:) (Smile). Hope now you understand it better.. Adi. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit
Explanation to all of you who are confused about the iOS 7 TTS voices
Hi all, As one who uses the new Nuance Vocalizer Expressive voices to develop with them for other platforms, I wanna to explain to you all, what are the iOS 7 voices and which of them are being used when. So, let's start from sirie: The new and better Sirie voices are not Vocalizer Expressive voices. These are custom voices that Nuance or some other company makes a specially for Apple, I think it's Nuance because Apple always works with them on TTS related stuff. Now, let's move on to VoiceOver: In iOS 6, Apple used the Nuance Vocalizer for automotive version 5.5 platform for it's screen reader and Sirie. Since Nuance stopped supporting and developing Vocalizer for Automotive, and released Vocalizer Expressive, in iOS 7, Apple has swiched to using these voices for VoiceOver. Most of them sound the same as the previous generation of Vocalizer, such as Samantha Premium for example, they just read longer texts better. The Vocalizer Expressive platform contains some new and very expressive voices, but Apple decided to use the ones that wer already available, because they are still offerd with Vocalizer Expressive, or VE for short. Some other facts that thanks to them you can know it's the new Expressive version, are the bad compact voices, a specially Daniel, and the new voices for some languages such as Arabic, they have replaced Maged with Tarik for this language because Nuance doesn't offer Maged any more. Vocalizer Expressive has a Hebrew voice as well, so I hope Apple will add it soon too:) (Smile). Hope now you understand it better.. Adi. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Explanation to all of you who are confused about the iOS 7 TTS voices
Thank you for sharing. I absolutely cannot stand the compact British English voice. Sounds like Daniel with well I don't know, cinucitis maybe! Lol! But the one compact voice I do like is Irish English. Not really tried the Australian and U.S. English voices yet in compact mode. On 20/09/2013 00:22, Adi Kushnir wrote: Hi all, As one who uses the new Nuance Vocalizer Expressive voices to develop with them for other platforms, I wanna to explain to you all, what are the iOS 7 voices and which of them are being used when. So, let's start from sirie: The new and better Sirie voices are not Vocalizer Expressive voices. These are custom voices that Nuance or some other company makes a specially for Apple, I think it's Nuance because Apple always works with them on TTS related stuff. Now, let's move on to VoiceOver: In iOS 6, Apple used the Nuance Vocalizer for automotive version 5.5 platform for it's screen reader and Sirie. Since Nuance stopped supporting and developing Vocalizer for Automotive, and released Vocalizer Expressive, in iOS 7, Apple has swiched to using these voices for VoiceOver. Most of them sound the same as the previous generation of Vocalizer, such as Samantha Premium for example, they just read longer texts better. The Vocalizer Expressive platform contains some new and very expressive voices, but Apple decided to use the ones that wer already available, because they are still offerd with Vocalizer Expressive, or VE for short. Some other facts that thanks to them you can know it's the new Expressive version, are the bad compact voices, a specially Daniel, and the new voices for some languages such as Arabic, they have replaced Maged with Tarik for this language because Nuance doesn't offer Maged any more. Vocalizer Expressive has a Hebrew voice as well, so I hope Apple will add it soon too:) (Smile). Hope now you understand it better.. Adi. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Explanation to all of you who are confused about the iOS 7 TTS voices
Thank you, That explains why I can listen at a much faster rate now. HTH, Richard (Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen) On Sep 19, 2013, at 4:22 PM, Adi Kushnir adikush...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, As one who uses the new Nuance Vocalizer Expressive voices to develop with them for other platforms, I wanna to explain to you all, what are the iOS 7 voices and which of them are being used when. So, let's start from sirie: The new and better Sirie voices are not Vocalizer Expressive voices. These are custom voices that Nuance or some other company makes a specially for Apple, I think it's Nuance because Apple always works with them on TTS related stuff. Now, let's move on to VoiceOver: In iOS 6, Apple used the Nuance Vocalizer for automotive version 5.5 platform for it's screen reader and Sirie. Since Nuance stopped supporting and developing Vocalizer for Automotive, and released Vocalizer Expressive, in iOS 7, Apple has swiched to using these voices for VoiceOver. Most of them sound the same as the previous generation of Vocalizer, such as Samantha Premium for example, they just read longer texts better. The Vocalizer Expressive platform contains some new and very expressive voices, but Apple decided to use the ones that wer already available, because they are still offerd with Vocalizer Expressive, or VE for short. Some other facts that thanks to them you can know it's the new Expressive version, are the bad compact voices, a specially Daniel, and the new voices for some languages such as Arabic, they have replaced Maged with Tarik for this language because Nuance doesn't offer Maged any more. Vocalizer Expressive has a Hebrew voice as well, so I hope Apple will add it soon too:) (Smile). Hope now you understand it better.. Adi. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Explanation to all of you who are confused about the iOS 7 TTS voices
I don't like any of the compact voices, they sound like they are trapped in a box. Higher quality voices take up more space of course, but it's worth it, hands down. Original message: Thank you for sharing. I absolutely cannot stand the compact British English voice. Sounds like Daniel with well I don't know, cinucitis maybe! Lol! But the one compact voice I do like is Irish English. Not really tried the Australian and U.S. English voices yet in compact mode. On 20/09/2013 00:22, Adi Kushnir wrote: Hi all, As one who uses the new Nuance Vocalizer Expressive voices to develop with them for other platforms, I wanna to explain to you all, what are the iOS 7 voices and which of them are being used when. So, let's start from sirie: The new and better Sirie voices are not Vocalizer Expressive voices. These are custom voices that Nuance or some other company makes a specially for Apple, I think it's Nuance because Apple always works with them on TTS related stuff. Now, let's move on to VoiceOver: In iOS 6, Apple used the Nuance Vocalizer for automotive version 5.5 platform for it's screen reader and Sirie. Since Nuance stopped supporting and developing Vocalizer for Automotive, and released Vocalizer Expressive, in iOS 7, Apple has swiched to using these voices for VoiceOver. Most of them sound the same as the previous generation of Vocalizer, such as Samantha Premium for example, they just read longer texts better. The Vocalizer Expressive platform contains some new and very expressive voices, but Apple decided to use the ones that wer already available, because they are still offerd with Vocalizer Expressive, or VE for short. Some other facts that thanks to them you can know it's the new Expressive version, are the bad compact voices, a specially Daniel, and the new voices for some languages such as Arabic, they have replaced Maged with Tarik for this language because Nuance doesn't offer Maged any more. Vocalizer Expressive has a Hebrew voice as well, so I hope Apple will add it soon too:) (Smile). Hope now you understand it better.. Adi. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Explanation to all of you who are confused about the iOS 7 TTS voices
Anyone know why apple did not have the hq voice already defaulted like in previous versions? - Original Message - From: Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Explanation to all of you who are confused about the iOS 7 TTS voices I don't like any of the compact voices, they sound like they are trapped in a box. Higher quality voices take up more space of course, but it's worth it, hands down. Original message: Thank you for sharing. I absolutely cannot stand the compact British English voice. Sounds like Daniel with well I don't know, cinucitis maybe! Lol! But the one compact voice I do like is Irish English. Not really tried the Australian and U.S. English voices yet in compact mode. On 20/09/2013 00:22, Adi Kushnir wrote: Hi all, As one who uses the new Nuance Vocalizer Expressive voices to develop with them for other platforms, I wanna to explain to you all, what are the iOS 7 voices and which of them are being used when. So, let's start from sirie: The new and better Sirie voices are not Vocalizer Expressive voices. These are custom voices that Nuance or some other company makes a specially for Apple, I think it's Nuance because Apple always works with them on TTS related stuff. Now, let's move on to VoiceOver: In iOS 6, Apple used the Nuance Vocalizer for automotive version 5.5 platform for it's screen reader and Sirie. Since Nuance stopped supporting and developing Vocalizer for Automotive, and released Vocalizer Expressive, in iOS 7, Apple has swiched to using these voices for VoiceOver. Most of them sound the same as the previous generation of Vocalizer, such as Samantha Premium for example, they just read longer texts better. The Vocalizer Expressive platform contains some new and very expressive voices, but Apple decided to use the ones that wer already available, because they are still offerd with Vocalizer Expressive, or VE for short. Some other facts that thanks to them you can know it's the new Expressive version, are the bad compact voices, a specially Daniel, and the new voices for some languages such as Arabic, they have replaced Maged with Tarik for this language because Nuance doesn't offer Maged any more. Vocalizer Expressive has a Hebrew voice as well, so I hope Apple will add it soon too:) (Smile). Hope now you understand it better.. Adi. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Explanation to all of you who are confused about the iOS 7 TTS voices
When I upgraded to IOS 7, it did default to the HQ voice for me. I wasn't paying too close attention, and it might have been using the compact voice until the HQ voice had a chance to download. I was using the HQ voice before too long though, and when I went into the Languages and Dialects settings, enhanced was already on and the use compact voice option was off in my VO settings. On 09/20/2013 04:50 PM, Troy Sullivan wrote: Anyone know why apple did not have the hq voice already defaulted like in previous versions? - Original Message - From: Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Explanation to all of you who are confused about the iOS 7 TTS voices I don't like any of the compact voices, they sound like they are trapped in a box. Higher quality voices take up more space of course, but it's worth it, hands down. Original message: Thank you for sharing. I absolutely cannot stand the compact British English voice. Sounds like Daniel with well I don't know, cinucitis maybe! Lol! But the one compact voice I do like is Irish English. Not really tried the Australian and U.S. English voices yet in compact mode. On 20/09/2013 00:22, Adi Kushnir wrote: Hi all, As one who uses the new Nuance Vocalizer Expressive voices to develop with them for other platforms, I wanna to explain to you all, what are the iOS 7 voices and which of them are being used when. So, let's start from sirie: The new and better Sirie voices are not Vocalizer Expressive voices. These are custom voices that Nuance or some other company makes a specially for Apple, I think it's Nuance because Apple always works with them on TTS related stuff. Now, let's move on to VoiceOver: In iOS 6, Apple used the Nuance Vocalizer for automotive version 5.5 platform for it's screen reader and Sirie. Since Nuance stopped supporting and developing Vocalizer for Automotive, and released Vocalizer Expressive, in iOS 7, Apple has swiched to using these voices for VoiceOver. Most of them sound the same as the previous generation of Vocalizer, such as Samantha Premium for example, they just read longer texts better. The Vocalizer Expressive platform contains some new and very expressive voices, but Apple decided to use the ones that wer already available, because they are still offerd with Vocalizer Expressive, or VE for short. Some other facts that thanks to them you can know it's the new Expressive version, are the bad compact voices, a specially Daniel, and the new voices for some languages such as Arabic, they have replaced Maged with Tarik for this language because Nuance doesn't offer Maged any more. Vocalizer Expressive has a Hebrew voice as well, so I hope Apple will add it soon too:) (Smile). Hope now you understand it better.. Adi. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can
Re: Explanation to all of you who are confused about the iOS 7 TTS voices
Same here. - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 5:13 PM Subject: Re: Explanation to all of you who are confused about the iOS 7 TTS voices When I upgraded to IOS 7, it did default to the HQ voice for me. I wasn't paying too close attention, and it might have been using the compact voice until the HQ voice had a chance to download. I was using the HQ voice before too long though, and when I went into the Languages and Dialects settings, enhanced was already on and the use compact voice option was off in my VO settings. On 09/20/2013 04:50 PM, Troy Sullivan wrote: Anyone know why apple did not have the hq voice already defaulted like in previous versions? - Original Message - From: Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Explanation to all of you who are confused about the iOS 7 TTS voices I don't like any of the compact voices, they sound like they are trapped in a box. Higher quality voices take up more space of course, but it's worth it, hands down. Original message: Thank you for sharing. I absolutely cannot stand the compact British English voice. Sounds like Daniel with well I don't know, cinucitis maybe! Lol! But the one compact voice I do like is Irish English. Not really tried the Australian and U.S. English voices yet in compact mode. On 20/09/2013 00:22, Adi Kushnir wrote: Hi all, As one who uses the new Nuance Vocalizer Expressive voices to develop with them for other platforms, I wanna to explain to you all, what are the iOS 7 voices and which of them are being used when. So, let's start from sirie: The new and better Sirie voices are not Vocalizer Expressive voices. These are custom voices that Nuance or some other company makes a specially for Apple, I think it's Nuance because Apple always works with them on TTS related stuff. Now, let's move on to VoiceOver: In iOS 6, Apple used the Nuance Vocalizer for automotive version 5.5 platform for it's screen reader and Sirie. Since Nuance stopped supporting and developing Vocalizer for Automotive, and released Vocalizer Expressive, in iOS 7, Apple has swiched to using these voices for VoiceOver. Most of them sound the same as the previous generation of Vocalizer, such as Samantha Premium for example, they just read longer texts better. The Vocalizer Expressive platform contains some new and very expressive voices, but Apple decided to use the ones that wer already available, because they are still offerd with Vocalizer Expressive, or VE for short. Some other facts that thanks to them you can know it's the new Expressive version, are the bad compact voices, a specially Daniel, and the new voices for some languages such as Arabic, they have replaced Maged with Tarik for this language because Nuance doesn't offer Maged any more. Vocalizer Expressive has a Hebrew voice as well, so I hope Apple will add it soon too:) (Smile). Hope now you understand it better.. Adi. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the
