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Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?

2016-04-08 Thread Krister Ekstrom

And remember, Fleksy doesn’t work at once, there’s a learning curve. If i were 
to change phones today, i’d probably have to relearn Fleksy again. As i said 
when the tutorial was published and i hope it made its way into the tutorial, 
patience, patience and yet more patience. If you really want to use fleksy 
which i do all the time, it takes a bit of sitting down and typing away. If 
it’s of any help to you there’s an extension that comes with the keyboard 
called ”one handed” this shrinks the keyboard a little and makes it easier to 
type with one hand.
/Krister

> 7 apr. 2016 kl. 22:06 skrev Chuck Dean :
> 
> The more i work with it, the better it gets. Although, the first suggestion 
> is rarely the right word. 
> 
> Chuck (mobile)
> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
> 
>> On Apr 7, 2016, at 12:59 PM, Christina C. > > wrote:
>> 
>> I just could not get efficient with Fleksy. I kept accidentally hitting keys 
>> that are not letters like the shift key and fleksy could not interpret my 
>> typing into words that were even close to what I meant. I was using the 
>> minimal keyboard but I just could not stop hitting keys that were not 
>> letters. :( I just don’t have the skills. I think there are plenty of people 
>> who are proficient with Fleksy and I am happy for them. :) 
>> 
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Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?

2016-04-07 Thread Chuck Dean

The more i work with it, the better it gets. Although, the first suggestion is 
rarely the right word. 

Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

> On Apr 7, 2016, at 12:59 PM, Christina C.  wrote:
> 
> I just could not get efficient with Fleksy. I kept accidentally hitting keys 
> that are not letters like the shift key and fleksy could not interpret my 
> typing into words that were even close to what I meant. I was using the 
> minimal keyboard but I just could not stop hitting keys that were not 
> letters. :( I just don’t have the skills. I think there are plenty of people 
> who are proficient with Fleksy and I am happy for them. :) 
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Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?

2016-04-07 Thread Christina C.

I just could not get efficient with Fleksy. I kept accidentally hitting keys 
that are not letters like the shift key and fleksy could not interpret my 
typing into words that were even close to what I meant. I was using the minimal 
keyboard but I just could not stop hitting keys that were not letters. :( I 
just don’t have the skills. I think there are plenty of people who are 
proficient with Fleksy and I am happy for them. :) 

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RE: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?

2016-04-05 Thread Alan Lemly

Excellent, Chuck. I'll just say that the Fleksy keyboard has too many things 
that can cause it to burp and hopefully they will continue to decrease with 
future upgrades. I'm glad you're having some success with it.

 

Alan

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chuck Dean
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 5:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?

 

Hi Alan, 

I finally figured out what my problem was. Some how I turned off direct touch 
typing, which I had to access with the rotor. 

I am typing this with Fleksy, and I am having a good bit of success.  

Chuck (mobile)

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


On Apr 5, 2016, at 6:49 AM, Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com> wrote:

Chuck, 

 

I've experienced what you're describing with Fleksy just announcing keyboard 
and not registering any other key presses. Usually, a restart of my iPhone with 
the home and power buttons fixes this problem. I'll also say it seems to arise 
in apps not requiring much keyboard input other than an occasional search. 

 

You might try going into settings, general, keyboard and removing the Fleksy 
keyboard from the installed list. You don't actually have to uninstall the app 
from your device. I would then open the messages app and type a sample using 
the standard keyboard before turning Fleksy back on. 

 

I will say I'm trying to use the Fleksy keyboard in spacebar mode since my 
experience is that it seems better behaved in this mode. You also have access 
to the button immediately to the left of the spacebar that will enable you to 
switch back to the standard keyboard. 

 

I understand your frustration because the Fleksy keyboard seems unpredictable 
enough to make one unwilling to fool with it but progress is being made with 
VoiceOver with each subsequent upgrade. 

 

Only you can decide whether the benefit of using Fleksy outweighs the cost of 
its frustrations. 

 

Good luck with your decision. 

 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 5, 2016, at 1:46 AM, Chuck Dean <cadean...@gmail.com> wrote:

I was having some success with fleksy this afternoon when the keyboard  totally 
locked up. Now when I touch any key all it says is keyboard, and doesn't do 
anything. Which also means that there is no way to get out of the keyboard, the 
two finger swipe up and swipe down does nothing. The only way to get out of the 
keyboard is to delete it from the phone. I have restarted the phone, reinstall 
Fleksy, turned off and turned on voiceover, nothing works. It is totally locked 
up, totally useless.

 

 

I am however glad that you are having success with it. I used to love Fleksy VO 
when it   work, it was fantastic.

Chuck (mobile)

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


On Apr 4, 2016, at 11:39 PM, Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com> wrote:

I shouldn’t bother to give any help on this topic since the unanymous vote of 
the blind community is that it is useless and those who think differently get 
flogged, but here goes: The keyboard can be resized. There are 3 different 
sizes of the keyboard and you can select size from the settings. When one’s new 
to the keyboard i’d recommend the largest size.

/Krister

 

5 apr. 2016 kl. 01:34 skrev Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com>:

 

Chuck,

 

I still find the Fleksy VO app very useful and still use it. I'm trying to make 
myself use the Fleksy Keyboard more often since like they say, practice makes 
perfect, or in this case, practice does give you better results.

 

After you type what you need with Fleksy VO, do a 2 finger swipe up and you'll 
be taken to the screen where VO will read your input and let you copy it for 
pasting to the app of your choice.

 

You might try using the Fleksy Keyboard in minimal mode instead of with the 
spacebar present. This will present the keyboard more like the original Fleksy 
app. You can switch from the spacebar keyboard by doing a 2 finger swipe down 
in the keyboard area. A 2 finger swipe up while in the minimal Fleksy keyboard 
will switch back to the Fleksy spacebar keyboard.

 

Good luck.

 

Alan

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chuck Dean
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 5:51 PM
To: VIPhone
Subject: Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?

 

 Hi Alan, I read your tutorial, excellent job! 

 

However, I went back and tried Fleksy and had very poor results. It's first 
prediction is wrong about 99% of the time. Second or third prediction is 
usually the correct one.

 

I do not know if this will improve over time, I seem to remember that it does 
have a learning future with in it. It is technically faster than the  iOS 
keyboard, but it is very frustrating! 

 

By the way, I went back to my old Fleksy VO app, and tried typing with it. It 
got every word right! Unfortunately, many of the options n

Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?

2016-04-05 Thread Casey


Hi I have this on my phone as well.
And I went to open it.
And it says install flexible button.
So I hit on that button and then it brings up something delaing with the 
keyboards.
So I hit the back button and it takes me back to the install flexie 
button again.

So how do I get this up and working.



On 4/5/2016 5:13 PM, Chuck Dean wrote:

Hi Alan,
I finally figured out what my problem was. Some how I turned off direct
touch typing, which I had to access with the rotor.
I am typing this with Fleksy, and I am having a good bit of success. 

Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

On Apr 5, 2016, at 6:49 AM, Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com
<mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Chuck,

I've experienced what you're describing with Fleksy just announcing
keyboard and not registering any other key presses. Usually, a restart
of my iPhone with the home and power buttons fixes this problem. I'll
also say it seems to arise in apps not requiring much keyboard input
other than an occasional search.

You might try going into settings, general, keyboard and removing the
Fleksy keyboard from the installed list. You don't actually have to
uninstall the app from your device. I would then open the messages app
and type a sample using the standard keyboard before turning Fleksy
back on.

I will say I'm trying to use the Fleksy keyboard in spacebar mode
since my experience is that it seems better behaved in this mode. You
also have access to the button immediately to the left of the spacebar
that will enable you to switch back to the standard keyboard.

I understand your frustration because the Fleksy keyboard seems
unpredictable enough to make one unwilling to fool with it but
progress is being made with VoiceOver with each subsequent upgrade.

Only you can decide whether the benefit of using Fleksy outweighs the
cost of its frustrations.

Good luck with your decision.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 5, 2016, at 1:46 AM, Chuck Dean <cadean...@gmail.com
<mailto:cadean...@gmail.com>> wrote:


I was having some success with fleksy this afternoon when the
keyboard  totally locked up. Now when I touch any key all it says is
keyboard, and doesn't do anything. Which also means that there is no
way to get out of the keyboard, the two finger swipe up and swipe
down does nothing. The only way to get out of the keyboard is to
delete it from the phone. I have restarted the phone, reinstall
Fleksy, turned off and turned on voiceover, nothing works. It is
totally locked up, totally useless.


I am however glad that you are having success with it. I used to love
Fleksy VO when it   work, it was fantastic.

Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

On Apr 4, 2016, at 11:39 PM, Krister Ekstrom
<kris...@kristersplace.com <mailto:kris...@kristersplace.com>> wrote:


I shouldn’t bother to give any help on this topic since the
unanymous vote of the blind community is that it is useless and
those who think differently get flogged, but here goes: The keyboard
can be resized. There are 3 different sizes of the keyboard and you
can select size from the settings. When one’s new to the keyboard
i’d recommend the largest size.
/Krister


5 apr. 2016 kl. 01:34 skrev Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com
<mailto:wale...@gmail.com>>:

Chuck,
I still find the Fleksy VO app very useful and still use it. I'm
trying to make myself use the Fleksy Keyboard more often since like
they say, practice makes perfect, or in this case, practice does
give you better results.
After you type what you need with Fleksy VO, do a 2 finger swipe up
and you'll be taken to the screen where VO will read your input and
let you copy it for pasting to the app of your choice.
You might try using the Fleksy Keyboard in minimal mode instead of
with the spacebar present. This will present the keyboard more like
the original Fleksy app. You can switch from the spacebar keyboard
by doing a 2 finger swipe down in the keyboard area. A 2 finger
swipe up while in the minimal Fleksy keyboard will switch back to
the Fleksy spacebar keyboard.
Good luck.
Alan
*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]*On Behalf Of*Chuck Dean
*Sent:*Monday, April 04, 2016 5:51 PM
*To:*VIPhone
*Subject:*Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?

 Hi Alan, I read your tutorial, excellent job!
However, I went back and tried Fleksy and had very poor results.
It's first prediction is wrong about 99% of the time. Second or
third prediction is usually the correct one.

I do not know if this will improve over time, I seem to remember
that it does have a learning future with in it. It is technically
faster than the  iOS keyboard, but it is very frustrating!
By the way, I went back to my old Fleksy VO app, and tried typing
with it. It got every word right! Unfortunately, many of the
options no longer work. Although messages and email st

Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?

2016-04-05 Thread Chuck Dean

Hi Alan, 
I finally figured out what my problem was. Some how I turned off direct touch 
typing, which I had to access with the rotor. 
I am typing this with Fleksy, and I am having a good bit of success.  

Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

> On Apr 5, 2016, at 6:49 AM, Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Chuck, 
> 
> I've experienced what you're describing with Fleksy just announcing keyboard 
> and not registering any other key presses. Usually, a restart of my iPhone 
> with the home and power buttons fixes this problem. I'll also say it seems to 
> arise in apps not requiring much keyboard input other than an occasional 
> search. 
> 
> You might try going into settings, general, keyboard and removing the Fleksy 
> keyboard from the installed list. You don't actually have to uninstall the 
> app from your device. I would then open the messages app and type a sample 
> using the standard keyboard before turning Fleksy back on. 
> 
> I will say I'm trying to use the Fleksy keyboard in spacebar mode since my 
> experience is that it seems better behaved in this mode. You also have access 
> to the button immediately to the left of the spacebar that will enable you to 
> switch back to the standard keyboard. 
> 
> I understand your frustration because the Fleksy keyboard seems unpredictable 
> enough to make one unwilling to fool with it but progress is being made with 
> VoiceOver with each subsequent upgrade. 
> 
> Only you can decide whether the benefit of using Fleksy outweighs the cost of 
> its frustrations. 
> 
> Good luck with your decision. 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 5, 2016, at 1:46 AM, Chuck Dean <cadean...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I was having some success with fleksy this afternoon when the keyboard  
>> totally locked up. Now when I touch any key all it says is keyboard, and 
>> doesn't do anything. Which also means that there is no way to get out of the 
>> keyboard, the two finger swipe up and swipe down does nothing. The only way 
>> to get out of the keyboard is to delete it from the phone. I have restarted 
>> the phone, reinstall Fleksy, turned off and turned on voiceover, nothing 
>> works. It is totally locked up, totally useless.
>> 
>> 
>> I am however glad that you are having success with it. I used to love Fleksy 
>> VO when it   work, it was fantastic.
>> 
>> Chuck (mobile)
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>> 
>>> On Apr 4, 2016, at 11:39 PM, Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I shouldn’t bother to give any help on this topic since the unanymous vote 
>>> of the blind community is that it is useless and those who think 
>>> differently get flogged, but here goes: The keyboard can be resized. There 
>>> are 3 different sizes of the keyboard and you can select size from the 
>>> settings. When one’s new to the keyboard i’d recommend the largest size.
>>> /Krister
>>> 
>>>> 5 apr. 2016 kl. 01:34 skrev Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com>:
>>>> 
>>>> Chuck,
>>>>  
>>>> I still find the Fleksy VO app very useful and still use it. I'm trying to 
>>>> make myself use the Fleksy Keyboard more often since like they say, 
>>>> practice makes perfect, or in this case, practice does give you better 
>>>> results.
>>>>  
>>>> After you type what you need with Fleksy VO, do a 2 finger swipe up and 
>>>> you'll be taken to the screen where VO will read your input and let you 
>>>> copy it for pasting to the app of your choice.
>>>>  
>>>> You might try using the Fleksy Keyboard in minimal mode instead of with 
>>>> the spacebar present. This will present the keyboard more like the 
>>>> original Fleksy app. You can switch from the spacebar keyboard by doing a 
>>>> 2 finger swipe down in the keyboard area. A 2 finger swipe up while in the 
>>>> minimal Fleksy keyboard will switch back to the Fleksy spacebar keyboard.
>>>>  
>>>> Good luck.
>>>>  
>>>> Alan
>>>>  
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>>> Of Chuck Dean
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 5:51 PM
>>>> To: VIPhone
>>>> Subject: Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?
>>>>  
>>>>>  Hi Alan, I read your tutorial, excellent job! 
>>>>  
>>>>> However, I went back and tri

Re: camera was: Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?

2016-04-05 Thread Krister Ekstrom

Hi,
For me it’s not the taking of the picture that’s the issue, for me it’s not 
being able to see how the picture turns out and correcting things that need to 
be corrected in the view finder already, things like ”did i get a picture at 
all or is it just a blank space” and so on.
/Krister

> 5 apr. 2016 kl. 19:06 skrev englishride...@gmail.com:
> 
> Judy Dixon has written a book on taking pictures if you're blind called "get 
> the Picture.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
>> On Apr 5, 2016, at 9:08 AM, rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Actually, interesting.  I've attempted to take pictures of my cat, and send 
>> it through an iMessage, if you point the camera at the right angle, you can 
>> achieve something.  But, as you say, who would want to do it? Certainly not 
>> me.  Still, the option is there.
>> 
>> Sent from a BrailleNote
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Date sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 17:18:48 +0200
>> Subject: Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?
>> 
>> Hi I don't know if we should drift off into another topic, but let me just 
>> say that yes, it was me who had the problems with the camera, and this has 
>> to do with mindset just as much as the operation itself.  I just can't get 
>> into my thick head how blind folks want to and even take pictures knowing 
>> that there's no way in hell to check what the results of their attempts 
>> would be and i just don't want to embbarras myself with pictures that look 
>> like a blind person has taken them.  But that's me and it's also another 
>> thread or topic alltogether.
>> /Krister
>> 
>> 5 apr.  2016 kl.  16:02 skrev Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca>:
>> 
>> Hi Krister,
>> 
>> I am certainly not flogging you, in fact, I think it's awesome you are so 
>> proficient with Fleksy and I wish I could be, but it seems to be one of 
>> those situations where you just seem to have a particular skill/ability 
>> which allows you to use it and most others don't.  I seem to remember you 
>> once wrote you can't take good pictures with the iPhone.  I think that is 
>> something that can be learned also and I certainly have no problems doing so 
>> and getting great results with apps like KNFB Reader, Tap Tap See, Talking 
>> Goggles etc.  Sorry if it was a different thing you once stated you couldn't 
>> do if your life depended on it or if I am mixing you up with somebody else, 
>> but there just are some things that are easier for some than for others.  I 
>> typically have a pretty good spacial awareness of the screen and all that 
>> and I have tried everything you said and also read Alan's excellent tutorial 
>> yet still find Fleksy is just not working for me.  I sometimes hear Podcasts 
>> where people use Braille Input and it sounds like it works great and they 
>> are very fast with that.  I wish I could do that, but unfortunately the hand 
>> injuries I have when I blew myself up 30 some years ago make that 
>> impossible, I only have two fingers and the thumb on each hand so can't use 
>> braille input since you need at least three fingers.  So I'm stuck with the 
>> regular iOS keyboard and of course dictation which works quite well.  If I 
>> travel and only take my iPhone I usually bring a Bluetooth keyboard for 
>> situations where I may have to reply to an email and type quite a lot of 
>> text.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Krister Ekstrom
>> Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 11:39 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?
>> 
>> I shouldn't bother to give any help on this topic since the unanymous vote 
>> of the blind community is that it is useless and those who think differently 
>> get flogged, but here goes: The keyboard can be resized.  There are 3 
>> different sizes of the keyboard and you can select size from the settings.  
>> When one's new to the keyboard i'd recommend the largest size.
>> /Krister
>> 
>> 5 apr.  2016 kl.  01:34 skrev Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:wale...@gmail.com>>:
>> 
>> Chuck,
>> 
>> I still find the Fleksy VO app very useful and still use it.  I'm trying to 
>> make myself use the Fleksy Keyboard more often since like they say, practice 
>> makes perfect, or in this case, practice does give you better results.
&g

Re: camera was: Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?

2016-04-05 Thread englishrider91

Judy Dixon has written a book on taking pictures if you're blind called "get 
the Picture.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Apr 5, 2016, at 9:08 AM, rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Actually, interesting.  I've attempted to take pictures of my cat, and send 
> it through an iMessage, if you point the camera at the right angle, you can 
> achieve something.  But, as you say, who would want to do it? Certainly not 
> me.  Still, the option is there.
> 
> Sent from a BrailleNote
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 17:18:48 +0200
> Subject: Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?
> 
> Hi I don't know if we should drift off into another topic, but let me just 
> say that yes, it was me who had the problems with the camera, and this has to 
> do with mindset just as much as the operation itself.  I just can't get into 
> my thick head how blind folks want to and even take pictures knowing that 
> there's no way in hell to check what the results of their attempts would be 
> and i just don't want to embbarras myself with pictures that look like a 
> blind person has taken them.  But that's me and it's also another thread or 
> topic alltogether.
> /Krister
> 
> 5 apr.  2016 kl.  16:02 skrev Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca>:
> 
> Hi Krister,
> 
> I am certainly not flogging you, in fact, I think it's awesome you are so 
> proficient with Fleksy and I wish I could be, but it seems to be one of those 
> situations where you just seem to have a particular skill/ability which 
> allows you to use it and most others don't.  I seem to remember you once 
> wrote you can't take good pictures with the iPhone.  I think that is 
> something that can be learned also and I certainly have no problems doing so 
> and getting great results with apps like KNFB Reader, Tap Tap See, Talking 
> Goggles etc.  Sorry if it was a different thing you once stated you couldn't 
> do if your life depended on it or if I am mixing you up with somebody else, 
> but there just are some things that are easier for some than for others.  I 
> typically have a pretty good spacial awareness of the screen and all that and 
> I have tried everything you said and also read Alan's excellent tutorial yet 
> still find Fleksy is just not working for me.  I sometimes hear Podcasts 
> where people use Braille Input and it sounds like it works great and they are 
> very fast with that.  I wish I could do that, but unfortunately the hand 
> injuries I have when I blew myself up 30 some years ago make that impossible, 
> I only have two fingers and the thumb on each hand so can't use braille input 
> since you need at least three fingers.  So I'm stuck with the regular iOS 
> keyboard and of course dictation which works quite well.  If I travel and 
> only take my iPhone I usually bring a Bluetooth keyboard for situations where 
> I may have to reply to an email and type quite a lot of text.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Krister Ekstrom
> Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 11:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?
> 
> I shouldn't bother to give any help on this topic since the unanymous vote of 
> the blind community is that it is useless and those who think differently get 
> flogged, but here goes: The keyboard can be resized.  There are 3 different 
> sizes of the keyboard and you can select size from the settings.  When one's 
> new to the keyboard i'd recommend the largest size.
> /Krister
> 
> 5 apr.  2016 kl.  01:34 skrev Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:wale...@gmail.com>>:
> 
> Chuck,
> 
> I still find the Fleksy VO app very useful and still use it.  I'm trying to 
> make myself use the Fleksy Keyboard more often since like they say, practice 
> makes perfect, or in this case, practice does give you better results.
> 
> After you type what you need with Fleksy VO, do a 2 finger swipe up and 
> you'll be taken to the screen where VO will read your input and let you copy 
> it for pasting to the app of your choice.
> 
> You might try using the Fleksy Keyboard in minimal mode instead of with the 
> spacebar present.  This will present the keyboard more like the original 
> Fleksy app.  You can switch from the spacebar keyboard by doing a 2 finger 
> swipe down in the keyboard area.  A 2 finger swipe up while in the minimal 
> Fleksy keyboard will switch back to the Fleksy spacebar keyboard.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> Alan
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> <mai

camera was: Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?

2016-04-05 Thread rajmund


Hi,
Actually, interesting.  I've attempted to take pictures of my 
cat, and send it through an iMessage, if you point the camera at 
the right angle, you can achieve something.  But, as you say, who 
would want to do it? Certainly not me.  Still, the option is 
there.


Sent from a BrailleNote

- Original Message -
From: Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 17:18:48 +0200
Subject: Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy 
keyboard?


Hi I don't know if we should drift off into another topic, but 
let me just say that yes, it was me who had the problems with the 
camera, and this has to do with mindset just as much as the 
operation itself.  I just can't get into my thick head how blind 
folks want to and even take pictures knowing that there's no way 
in hell to check what the results of their attempts would be and 
i just don't want to embbarras myself with pictures that look 
like a blind person has taken them.  But that's me and it's 
also another thread or topic alltogether.

/Krister

5 apr.  2016 kl.  16:02 skrev Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca>:


Hi Krister,

I am certainly not flogging you, in fact, I think it's awesome 
you are so proficient with Fleksy and I wish I could be, but it 
seems to be one of those situations where you just seem to have a 
particular skill/ability which allows you to use it and most 
others don't.  I seem to remember you once wrote you can't take 
good pictures with the iPhone.  I think that is something that 
can be learned also and I certainly have no problems doing so and 
getting great results with apps like KNFB Reader, Tap Tap See, 
Talking Goggles etc.  Sorry if it was a different thing you once 
stated you couldn't do if your life depended on it or if I am 
mixing you up with somebody else, but there just are some things 
that are easier for some than for others.  I typically have a 
pretty good spacial awareness of the screen and all that and I 
have tried everything you said and also read Alan's excellent 
tutorial yet still find Fleksy is just not working for me.  I 
sometimes hear Podcasts where people use Braille Input and it 
sounds like it works great and they are very fast with that.  I 
wish I could do that, but unfortunately the hand injuries I have 
when I blew myself up 30 some years ago make that impossible, I 
only have two fingers and the thumb on each hand so can't use 
braille input since you need at least three fingers.  So I'm 
stuck with the regular iOS keyboard and of course dictation which 
works quite well.  If I travel and only take my iPhone I usually 
bring a Bluetooth keyboard for situations where I may have to 
reply to an email and type quite a lot of text.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom

Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 11:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy 
keyboard?


I shouldn't bother to give any help on this topic since the 
unanymous vote of the blind community is that it is useless and 
those who think differently get flogged, but here goes: The 
keyboard can be resized.  There are 3 different sizes of the 
keyboard and you can select size from the settings.  When one's 
new to the keyboard i'd recommend the largest size.

/Krister

5 apr.  2016 kl.  01:34 skrev Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com 
<mailto:wale...@gmail.com>>:


Chuck,

I still find the Fleksy VO app very useful and still use it.  
I'm trying to make myself use the Fleksy Keyboard more often 
since like they say, practice makes perfect, or in this case, 
practice does give you better results.


After you type what you need with Fleksy VO, do a 2 finger swipe 
up and you'll be taken to the screen where VO will read your 
input and let you copy it for pasting to the app of your choice.


You might try using the Fleksy Keyboard in minimal mode instead 
of with the spacebar present.  This will present the keyboard 
more like the original Fleksy app.  You can switch from the 
spacebar keyboard by doing a 2 finger swipe down in the keyboard 
area.  A 2 finger swipe up while in the minimal Fleksy keyboard 
will switch back to the Fleksy spacebar keyboard.


Good luck.

Alan

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Chuck Dean

Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 5:51 PM
To: VIPhone
Subject: Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy 
keyboard?


 Hi Alan, I read your tutorial, excellent job!

However, I went back and tried Fleksy and had very poor results.  
It's first prediction is wrong about 99% of the time.  Second or 
third prediction is usually the correct one.


I do not know if this will improve over time, I seem to remember 
that it does have a learning future with in it.  It is 
technically faster than

RE: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?

2016-04-05 Thread rajmund


Hi,
I'm one of those fast braillests, people always wonder.  I can be 
as quick on my 5s, in braille, uncontracted, as some others with 
direct touch on an iPad, for instance.


Sent from a BrailleNote

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 07:02:20 -0700
Subject: RE: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy 
keyboard?


Hi Krister,



I am certainly not flogging you, in fact, I think it's awesome 
you are so proficient with Fleksy and I wish I could be, but it 
seems to be one of those situations where you just seem to have a 
particular skill/ability which allows you to use it and most 
others don't.  I seem to remember you once wrote you can't take 
good pictures with the iPhone.  I think that is something that 
can be learned also and I certainly have no problems doing so and 
getting great results with apps like KNFB Reader, Tap Tap See, 
Talking Goggles etc.  Sorry if it was a different thing you once 
stated you couldn't do if your life depended on it or if I am 
mixing you up with somebody else, but there just are some things 
that are easier for some than for others.  I typically have a 
pretty good spacial awareness of the screen and all that and I 
have tried everything you said and also read Alan's excellent 
tutorial yet still find Fleksy is just not working for me.  I 
sometimes hear Podcasts where people use Braille Input and it 
sounds like it works great and they are very fast with that.  I 
wish I could do that, but unfortunately the hand injuries I have 
when I blew myself up 30 some years ago make that impossible, I 
only have two fingers and the thumb on each hand so can't use 
braille input since you need at least three fingers.  So I'm 
stuck with the regular iOS keyboard and of course dictation which 
works quite well.  If I travel and only take my iPhone I usually 
bring a Bluetooth keyboard for situations where I may have to 
reply to an email and type quite a lot of text.




Regards,

Sieghard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom

Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 11:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy 
keyboard?




I shouldn't bother to give any help on this topic since the 
unanymous vote of the blind community is that it is useless and 
those who think differently get flogged, but here goes: The 
keyboard can be resized.  There are 3 different sizes of the 
keyboard and you can select size from the settings.  When one's 
new to the keyboard i'd recommend the largest size.


/Krister



5 apr.  2016 kl.  01:34 skrev Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com 
<mailto:wale...@gmail.com> >:




Chuck,



I still find the Fleksy VO app very useful and still use it.  I'm 
trying to make myself use the Fleksy Keyboard more often since 
like they say, practice makes perfect, or in this case, practice 
does give you better results.




After you type what you need with Fleksy VO, do a 2 finger swipe 
up and you'll be taken to the screen where VO will read your 
input and let you copy it for pasting to the app of your choice.




You might try using the Fleksy Keyboard in minimal mode instead 
of with the spacebar present.  This will present the keyboard 
more like the original Fleksy app.  You can switch from the 
spacebar keyboard by doing a 2 finger swipe down in the keyboard 
area.  A 2 finger swipe up while in the minimal Fleksy keyboard 
will switch back to the Fleksy spacebar keyboard.




Good luck.



Alan



From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Dean

Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 5:51 PM
To: VIPhone
Subject: Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy 
keyboard?




Hi Alan, I read your tutorial, excellent job!



However, I went back and tried Fleksy and had very poor results.  
It's first prediction is wrong about 99% of the time.  Second or 
third prediction is usually the correct one.




I do not know if this will improve over time, I seem to remember 
that it does have a learning future with in it.  It is 
technically faster than the  iOS keyboard, but it is very 
frustrating!




By the way, I went back to my old Fleksy VO app, and tried typing 
with it.  It got every word right! Unfortunately, many of the 
options no longer work.  Although messages and email still work.


But as I typed, no text was displayed.

Chuck

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Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?

2016-04-05 Thread Krister Ekstrom

Hi I don’t know if we should drift off into another topic, but let me just say 
that yes, it was me who had the problems with the camera, and this has to do 
with mindset just as much as the operation itself. I just can’t get into my 
thick head how blind folks want to and even take pictures knowing that there’s 
no way in hell to check what the results of their attempts would be and i just 
don’t want to embbarras myself with pictures that look like a blind person has 
taken them. But that’s me and it’s also another thread or topic alltogether.
/Krister

> 5 apr. 2016 kl. 16:02 skrev Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca>:
> 
> Hi Krister,
>  
> I am certainly not flogging you, in fact, I think it’s awesome you are so 
> proficient with Fleksy and I wish I could be, but it seems to be one of those 
> situations where you just seem to have a particular skill/ability which 
> allows you to use it and most others don’t. I seem to remember you once wrote 
> you can’t take good pictures with the iPhone. I think that is something that 
> can be learned also and I certainly have no problems doing so and getting 
> great results with apps like KNFB Reader, Tap Tap See, Talking Goggles etc. 
> Sorry if it was a different thing you once stated you couldn’t do if your 
> life depended on it or if I am mixing you up with somebody else, but there 
> just are some things that are easier for some than for others. I typically 
> have a pretty good spacial awareness of the screen and all that and I have 
> tried everything you said and also read Alan’s excellent tutorial yet still 
> find Fleksy is just not working for me. I sometimes hear Podcasts where 
> people use Braille Input and it sounds like it works great and they are very 
> fast with that. I wish I could do that, but unfortunately the hand injuries I 
> have when I blew myself up 30 some years ago make that impossible, I only 
> have two fingers and the thumb on each hand so can’t use braille input since 
> you need at least three fingers. So I’m stuck with the regular iOS keyboard 
> and of course dictation which works quite well. If I travel and only take my 
> iPhone I usually bring a Bluetooth keyboard for situations where I may have 
> to reply to an email and type quite a lot of text.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Krister Ekstrom
> Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 11:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?
>  
> I shouldn’t bother to give any help on this topic since the unanymous vote of 
> the blind community is that it is useless and those who think differently get 
> flogged, but here goes: The keyboard can be resized. There are 3 different 
> sizes of the keyboard and you can select size from the settings. When one’s 
> new to the keyboard i’d recommend the largest size.
> /Krister
>  
>> 5 apr. 2016 kl. 01:34 skrev Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:wale...@gmail.com>>:
>>  
>> Chuck,
>>  
>> I still find the Fleksy VO app very useful and still use it. I'm trying to 
>> make myself use the Fleksy Keyboard more often since like they say, practice 
>> makes perfect, or in this case, practice does give you better results.
>>  
>> After you type what you need with Fleksy VO, do a 2 finger swipe up and 
>> you'll be taken to the screen where VO will read your input and let you copy 
>> it for pasting to the app of your choice.
>>  
>> You might try using the Fleksy Keyboard in minimal mode instead of with the 
>> spacebar present. This will present the keyboard more like the original 
>> Fleksy app. You can switch from the spacebar keyboard by doing a 2 finger 
>> swipe down in the keyboard area. A 2 finger swipe up while in the minimal 
>> Fleksy keyboard will switch back to the Fleksy spacebar keyboard.
>>  
>> Good luck.
>>  
>> Alan
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Chuck Dean
>> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 5:51 PM
>> To: VIPhone
>> Subject: Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?
>>  
>>>  Hi Alan, I read your tutorial, excellent job! 
>>  
>>> However, I went back and tried Fleksy and had very poor results. It's first 
>>> prediction is wrong about 99% of the time. Second or third prediction is 
>>> usually the correct one.
>>  
>> I do not know if this will improve over time, I seem to remember that it 
>> does have a learning future with in it. It is technically

RE: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?

2016-04-05 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

Hi Krister,

 

I am certainly not flogging you, in fact, I think it’s awesome you are so 
proficient with Fleksy and I wish I could be, but it seems to be one of those 
situations where you just seem to have a particular skill/ability which allows 
you to use it and most others don’t. I seem to remember you once wrote you 
can’t take good pictures with the iPhone. I think that is something that can be 
learned also and I certainly have no problems doing so and getting great 
results with apps like KNFB Reader, Tap Tap See, Talking Goggles etc. Sorry if 
it was a different thing you once stated you couldn’t do if your life depended 
on it or if I am mixing you up with somebody else, but there just are some 
things that are easier for some than for others. I typically have a pretty good 
spacial awareness of the screen and all that and I have tried everything you 
said and also read Alan’s excellent tutorial yet still find Fleksy is just not 
working for me. I sometimes hear Podcasts where people use Braille Input and it 
sounds like it works great and they are very fast with that. I wish I could do 
that, but unfortunately the hand injuries I have when I blew myself up 30 some 
years ago make that impossible, I only have two fingers and the thumb on each 
hand so can’t use braille input since you need at least three fingers. So I’m 
stuck with the regular iOS keyboard and of course dictation which works quite 
well. If I travel and only take my iPhone I usually bring a Bluetooth keyboard 
for situations where I may have to reply to an email and type quite a lot of 
text.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Krister Ekstrom
Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 11:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?

 

I shouldn’t bother to give any help on this topic since the unanymous vote of 
the blind community is that it is useless and those who think differently get 
flogged, but here goes: The keyboard can be resized. There are 3 different 
sizes of the keyboard and you can select size from the settings. When one’s new 
to the keyboard i’d recommend the largest size.

/Krister

 

5 apr. 2016 kl. 01:34 skrev Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com 
<mailto:wale...@gmail.com> >:

 

Chuck,

 

I still find the Fleksy VO app very useful and still use it. I'm trying to make 
myself use the Fleksy Keyboard more often since like they say, practice makes 
perfect, or in this case, practice does give you better results.

 

After you type what you need with Fleksy VO, do a 2 finger swipe up and you'll 
be taken to the screen where VO will read your input and let you copy it for 
pasting to the app of your choice.

 

You might try using the Fleksy Keyboard in minimal mode instead of with the 
spacebar present. This will present the keyboard more like the original Fleksy 
app. You can switch from the spacebar keyboard by doing a 2 finger swipe down 
in the keyboard area. A 2 finger swipe up while in the minimal Fleksy keyboard 
will switch back to the Fleksy spacebar keyboard.

 

Good luck.

 

Alan

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Dean
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 5:51 PM
To: VIPhone
Subject: Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?

 

 Hi Alan, I read your tutorial, excellent job! 

 

However, I went back and tried Fleksy and had very poor results. It's first 
prediction is wrong about 99% of the time. Second or third prediction is 
usually the correct one.

 

I do not know if this will improve over time, I seem to remember that it does 
have a learning future with in it. It is technically faster than the  iOS 
keyboard, but it is very frustrating! 

 

By the way, I went back to my old Fleksy VO app, and tried typing with it. It 
got every word right! Unfortunately, many of the options no longer work. 
Although messages and email still work.

But as I typed, no text was displayed.

Chuck

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RE: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?

2016-04-05 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

Hi Chuck,

 

I spend a bit of time practicing as well and also had no luck. I don’t mind 
learning new stuff and am fairly patient, but at this point being successful 
with Fleksy seems to be beyond me.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chuck Dean
Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 3:15 PM
To: VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?

 

Thanks Alan, I found your tutorial with a search of the B iPhone topics. I will 
read it thoroughly, and hopefully I will be able to use this app. But, I 
haven't had much success.

Chuck

On Monday, April 4, 2016 at 2:28:04 PM UTC-7, Chuck Dean wrote:

Hello all,

I used to be a big fan of the Flexi keyboard, but since it's updates to being a 
third-party keyboard, I have had absolutely no success typing with this thing. 

Whenever I type a word it types gibberish as my first selection, and usually my 
second or third selection is what I actually typed. Even when I type the word 
I, it gives me the wrong letter!

 

Am I doing something wrong, or is everybody else having as much trouble with 
this keyboard as I am?

 

I remember the old Fleksy V.O., which worked absolutely perfectly. It was 
fantastic for the visually impaired, and I used it constantly. I could type on 
it five times faster than any other keyboard I've come across. But they no 
longer supported. 

I guess it work too good!

 

I have tried the Swift Key keyboard, with some success. It is not nearly as 
fast as the old Fleksy V.O. 

Chuck

 

P.S. I noticed that they no longer have the Wii love feedback but in their app. 
Now they expect you to go to Facebook, which I am not a member.

 

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Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?

2016-04-05 Thread Alan Lemly

Chuck, 

I've experienced what you're describing with Fleksy just announcing keyboard 
and not registering any other key presses. Usually, a restart of my iPhone with 
the home and power buttons fixes this problem. I'll also say it seems to arise 
in apps not requiring much keyboard input other than an occasional search. 

You might try going into settings, general, keyboard and removing the Fleksy 
keyboard from the installed list. You don't actually have to uninstall the app 
from your device. I would then open the messages app and type a sample using 
the standard keyboard before turning Fleksy back on. 

I will say I'm trying to use the Fleksy keyboard in spacebar mode since my 
experience is that it seems better behaved in this mode. You also have access 
to the button immediately to the left of the spacebar that will enable you to 
switch back to the standard keyboard. 

I understand your frustration because the Fleksy keyboard seems unpredictable 
enough to make one unwilling to fool with it but progress is being made with 
VoiceOver with each subsequent upgrade. 

Only you can decide whether the benefit of using Fleksy outweighs the cost of 
its frustrations. 

Good luck with your decision. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 5, 2016, at 1:46 AM, Chuck Dean <cadean...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I was having some success with fleksy this afternoon when the keyboard  
> totally locked up. Now when I touch any key all it says is keyboard, and 
> doesn't do anything. Which also means that there is no way to get out of the 
> keyboard, the two finger swipe up and swipe down does nothing. The only way 
> to get out of the keyboard is to delete it from the phone. I have restarted 
> the phone, reinstall Fleksy, turned off and turned on voiceover, nothing 
> works. It is totally locked up, totally useless.
> 
> 
> I am however glad that you are having success with it. I used to love Fleksy 
> VO when it   work, it was fantastic.
> 
> Chuck (mobile)
> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
> 
>> On Apr 4, 2016, at 11:39 PM, Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I shouldn’t bother to give any help on this topic since the unanymous vote 
>> of the blind community is that it is useless and those who think differently 
>> get flogged, but here goes: The keyboard can be resized. There are 3 
>> different sizes of the keyboard and you can select size from the settings. 
>> When one’s new to the keyboard i’d recommend the largest size.
>> /Krister
>> 
>>> 5 apr. 2016 kl. 01:34 skrev Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com>:
>>> 
>>> Chuck,
>>>  
>>> I still find the Fleksy VO app very useful and still use it. I'm trying to 
>>> make myself use the Fleksy Keyboard more often since like they say, 
>>> practice makes perfect, or in this case, practice does give you better 
>>> results.
>>>  
>>> After you type what you need with Fleksy VO, do a 2 finger swipe up and 
>>> you'll be taken to the screen where VO will read your input and let you 
>>> copy it for pasting to the app of your choice.
>>>  
>>> You might try using the Fleksy Keyboard in minimal mode instead of with the 
>>> spacebar present. This will present the keyboard more like the original 
>>> Fleksy app. You can switch from the spacebar keyboard by doing a 2 finger 
>>> swipe down in the keyboard area. A 2 finger swipe up while in the minimal 
>>> Fleksy keyboard will switch back to the Fleksy spacebar keyboard.
>>>  
>>> Good luck.
>>>  
>>> Alan
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Chuck Dean
>>> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 5:51 PM
>>> To: VIPhone
>>> Subject: Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?
>>>  
>>>>  Hi Alan, I read your tutorial, excellent job! 
>>>  
>>>> However, I went back and tried Fleksy and had very poor results. It's 
>>>> first prediction is wrong about 99% of the time. Second or third 
>>>> prediction is usually the correct one.
>>>  
>>> I do not know if this will improve over time, I seem to remember that it 
>>> does have a learning future with in it. It is technically faster than the  
>>> iOS keyboard, but it is very frustrating! 
>>>  
>>> By the way, I went back to my old Fleksy VO app, and tried typing with it. 
>>> It got every word right! Unfortunately, many of the options no longer work. 
>>> Although messages and email still work.
>>> But as I typed, no text was displayed.
>>> Chu

Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?

2016-04-05 Thread Christopher Chaltain

It's hardly unanimous, and I don't think anyone is being flogged. 
Remember, there are something like 1400 members on this list, and I 
haven't seen nearly that many people claiming that Fleksy is useless, 
and I've seen a few members like yourself trying to help the rest of us 
who'd like to use Fleksy more. I'd encourage you not to get discouraged 
and keep sending tips on how to use Fleksy to the list. There will 
always be negativity out there, especially on a list with so many 
members, but don't let that negativity get you down.


On 05/04/16 01:39, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

I shouldn’t bother to give any help on this topic since the unanymous
vote of the blind community is that it is useless and those who think
differently get flogged, but here goes: The keyboard can be resized.
There are 3 different sizes of the keyboard and you can select size from
the settings. When one’s new to the keyboard i’d recommend the largest size.
/Krister


5 apr. 2016 kl. 01:34 skrev Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com
<mailto:wale...@gmail.com>>:

Chuck,
I still find the Fleksy VO app very useful and still use it. I'm
trying to make myself use the Fleksy Keyboard more often since like
they say, practice makes perfect, or in this case, practice does give
you better results.
After you type what you need with Fleksy VO, do a 2 finger swipe up
and you'll be taken to the screen where VO will read your input and
let you copy it for pasting to the app of your choice.
You might try using the Fleksy Keyboard in minimal mode instead of
with the spacebar present. This will present the keyboard more like
the original Fleksy app. You can switch from the spacebar keyboard by
doing a 2 finger swipe down in the keyboard area. A 2 finger swipe up
while in the minimal Fleksy keyboard will switch back to the Fleksy
spacebar keyboard.
Good luck.
Alan
*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]*On Behalf Of*Chuck Dean
*Sent:*Monday, April 04, 2016 5:51 PM
*To:*VIPhone
*Subject:*Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?

 Hi Alan, I read your tutorial, excellent job!
However, I went back and tried Fleksy and had very poor results. It's
first prediction is wrong about 99% of the time. Second or third
prediction is usually the correct one.

I do not know if this will improve over time, I seem to remember that
it does have a learning future with in it. It is technically faster
than the  iOS keyboard, but it is very frustrating!
By the way, I went back to my old Fleksy VO app, and tried typing with
it. It got every word right! Unfortunately, many of the options no
longer work. Although messages and email still work.
But as I typed, no text was displayed.
Chuck
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Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?

2016-04-05 Thread Krister Ekstrom

Go into the phones settings/general/keyboard/keyboards, see if Fleksy has full 
access. Sometimes full access turns itself off for some unexplicable reason. 
Even if it’s not turned off, turn it off then back on again and see if this 
helps.
/Krister

> 5 apr. 2016 kl. 08:46 skrev Chuck Dean <cadean...@gmail.com>:
> 
> I was having some success with fleksy this afternoon when the keyboard  
> totally locked up. Now when I touch any key all it says is keyboard, and 
> doesn't do anything. Which also means that there is no way to get out of the 
> keyboard, the two finger swipe up and swipe down does nothing. The only way 
> to get out of the keyboard is to delete it from the phone. I have restarted 
> the phone, reinstall Fleksy, turned off and turned on voiceover, nothing 
> works. It is totally locked up, totally useless.
> 
> 
> I am however glad that you are having success with it. I used to love Fleksy 
> VO when it   work, it was fantastic.
> 
> Chuck (mobile)
> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
> 
> On Apr 4, 2016, at 11:39 PM, Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com 
> <mailto:kris...@kristersplace.com>> wrote:
> 
>> I shouldn’t bother to give any help on this topic since the unanymous vote 
>> of the blind community is that it is useless and those who think differently 
>> get flogged, but here goes: The keyboard can be resized. There are 3 
>> different sizes of the keyboard and you can select size from the settings. 
>> When one’s new to the keyboard i’d recommend the largest size.
>> /Krister
>> 
>>> 5 apr. 2016 kl. 01:34 skrev Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:wale...@gmail.com>>:
>>> 
>>> Chuck,
>>>  
>>> I still find the Fleksy VO app very useful and still use it. I'm trying to 
>>> make myself use the Fleksy Keyboard more often since like they say, 
>>> practice makes perfect, or in this case, practice does give you better 
>>> results.
>>>  
>>> After you type what you need with Fleksy VO, do a 2 finger swipe up and 
>>> you'll be taken to the screen where VO will read your input and let you 
>>> copy it for pasting to the app of your choice.
>>>  
>>> You might try using the Fleksy Keyboard in minimal mode instead of with the 
>>> spacebar present. This will present the keyboard more like the original 
>>> Fleksy app. You can switch from the spacebar keyboard by doing a 2 finger 
>>> swipe down in the keyboard area. A 2 finger swipe up while in the minimal 
>>> Fleksy keyboard will switch back to the Fleksy spacebar keyboard.
>>>  
>>> Good luck.
>>>  
>>> Alan
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On 
>>> Behalf Of Chuck Dean
>>> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 5:51 PM
>>> To: VIPhone
>>> Subject: Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?
>>>  
>>>>  Hi Alan, I read your tutorial, excellent job! 
>>>  
>>>> However, I went back and tried Fleksy and had very poor results. It's 
>>>> first prediction is wrong about 99% of the time. Second or third 
>>>> prediction is usually the correct one.
>>>  
>>> I do not know if this will improve over time, I seem to remember that it 
>>> does have a learning future with in it. It is technically faster than the  
>>> iOS keyboard, but it is very frustrating! 
>>>  
>>> By the way, I went back to my old Fleksy VO app, and tried typing with it. 
>>> It got every word right! Unfortunately, many of the options no longer work. 
>>> Although messages and email still work.
>>> But as I typed, no text was displayed.
>>> Chuck
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Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?

2016-04-05 Thread Chuck Dean

I was having some success with fleksy this afternoon when the keyboard  totally 
locked up. Now when I touch any key all it says is keyboard, and doesn't do 
anything. Which also means that there is no way to get out of the keyboard, the 
two finger swipe up and swipe down does nothing. The only way to get out of the 
keyboard is to delete it from the phone. I have restarted the phone, reinstall 
Fleksy, turned off and turned on voiceover, nothing works. It is totally locked 
up, totally useless.


I am however glad that you are having success with it. I used to love Fleksy VO 
when it   work, it was fantastic.

Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

> On Apr 4, 2016, at 11:39 PM, Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I shouldn’t bother to give any help on this topic since the unanymous vote of 
> the blind community is that it is useless and those who think differently get 
> flogged, but here goes: The keyboard can be resized. There are 3 different 
> sizes of the keyboard and you can select size from the settings. When one’s 
> new to the keyboard i’d recommend the largest size.
> /Krister
> 
>> 5 apr. 2016 kl. 01:34 skrev Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com>:
>> 
>> Chuck,
>>  
>> I still find the Fleksy VO app very useful and still use it. I'm trying to 
>> make myself use the Fleksy Keyboard more often since like they say, practice 
>> makes perfect, or in this case, practice does give you better results.
>>  
>> After you type what you need with Fleksy VO, do a 2 finger swipe up and 
>> you'll be taken to the screen where VO will read your input and let you copy 
>> it for pasting to the app of your choice.
>>  
>> You might try using the Fleksy Keyboard in minimal mode instead of with the 
>> spacebar present. This will present the keyboard more like the original 
>> Fleksy app. You can switch from the spacebar keyboard by doing a 2 finger 
>> swipe down in the keyboard area. A 2 finger swipe up while in the minimal 
>> Fleksy keyboard will switch back to the Fleksy spacebar keyboard.
>>  
>> Good luck.
>>  
>> Alan
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Chuck Dean
>> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 5:51 PM
>> To: VIPhone
>> Subject: Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?
>>  
>>>  Hi Alan, I read your tutorial, excellent job! 
>>  
>>> However, I went back and tried Fleksy and had very poor results. It's first 
>>> prediction is wrong about 99% of the time. Second or third prediction is 
>>> usually the correct one.
>>  
>> I do not know if this will improve over time, I seem to remember that it 
>> does have a learning future with in it. It is technically faster than the  
>> iOS keyboard, but it is very frustrating! 
>>  
>> By the way, I went back to my old Fleksy VO app, and tried typing with it. 
>> It got every word right! Unfortunately, many of the options no longer work. 
>> Although messages and email still work.
>> But as I typed, no text was displayed.
>> Chuck
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Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?

2016-04-05 Thread Krister Ekstrom

I shouldn’t bother to give any help on this topic since the unanymous vote of 
the blind community is that it is useless and those who think differently get 
flogged, but here goes: The keyboard can be resized. There are 3 different 
sizes of the keyboard and you can select size from the settings. When one’s new 
to the keyboard i’d recommend the largest size.
/Krister

> 5 apr. 2016 kl. 01:34 skrev Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com>:
> 
> Chuck,
>  
> I still find the Fleksy VO app very useful and still use it. I'm trying to 
> make myself use the Fleksy Keyboard more often since like they say, practice 
> makes perfect, or in this case, practice does give you better results.
>  
> After you type what you need with Fleksy VO, do a 2 finger swipe up and 
> you'll be taken to the screen where VO will read your input and let you copy 
> it for pasting to the app of your choice.
>  
> You might try using the Fleksy Keyboard in minimal mode instead of with the 
> spacebar present. This will present the keyboard more like the original 
> Fleksy app. You can switch from the spacebar keyboard by doing a 2 finger 
> swipe down in the keyboard area. A 2 finger swipe up while in the minimal 
> Fleksy keyboard will switch back to the Fleksy spacebar keyboard.
>  
> Good luck.
>  
> Alan
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Chuck Dean
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 5:51 PM
> To: VIPhone
> Subject: Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?
>  
>>  Hi Alan, I read your tutorial, excellent job! 
>  
>> However, I went back and tried Fleksy and had very poor results. It's first 
>> prediction is wrong about 99% of the time. Second or third prediction is 
>> usually the correct one.
>  
> I do not know if this will improve over time, I seem to remember that it does 
> have a learning future with in it. It is technically faster than the  iOS 
> keyboard, but it is very frustrating! 
>  
> By the way, I went back to my old Fleksy VO app, and tried typing with it. It 
> got every word right! Unfortunately, many of the options no longer work. 
> Although messages and email still work.
> But as I typed, no text was displayed.
> Chuck
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Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?

2016-04-05 Thread Krister Ekstrom

It’s a bit of a learning curve, but once you get the hang of it, it’s great. 
/Krister

> 5 apr. 2016 kl. 00:15 skrev Chuck Dean :
> 
> Thanks Alan, I found your tutorial with a search of the B iPhone topics. I 
> will read it thoroughly, and hopefully I will be able to use this app. But, I 
> haven't had much success.
> Chuck
> 
> On Monday, April 4, 2016 at 2:28:04 PM UTC-7, Chuck Dean wrote:
> Hello all,
> I used to be a big fan of the Flexi keyboard, but since it's updates to being 
> a third-party keyboard, I have had absolutely no success typing with this 
> thing. 
> Whenever I type a word it types gibberish as my first selection, and usually 
> my second or third selection is what I actually typed. Even when I type the 
> word I, it gives me the wrong letter!
> 
> Am I doing something wrong, or is everybody else having as much trouble with 
> this keyboard as I am?
> 
> I remember the old Fleksy V.O., which worked absolutely perfectly. It was 
> fantastic for the visually impaired, and I used it constantly. I could type 
> on it five times faster than any other keyboard I've come across. But they no 
> longer supported. 
> I guess it work too good!
> 
> I have tried the Swift Key keyboard, with some success. It is not nearly as 
> fast as the old Fleksy V.O. 
> Chuck
> 
> P.S. I noticed that they no longer have the Wii love feedback but in their 
> app. Now they expect you to go to Facebook, which I am not a member.
> 
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Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?

2016-04-05 Thread Krister Ekstrom

I am using it every day and love it.
/Krister

> 4 apr. 2016 kl. 23:40 skrev englishride...@gmail.com:
> 
> Chuck, I can't remember who wrote it, but somebody did a very extensive 
> review of Fleksy on this list. I can't remember their suggestions, but I took 
> them up on them, and while I haven't used Fleksy in a while, it worked quite 
> well when I did.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
> On Apr 4, 2016, at 2:28 PM, Chuck Dean  > wrote:
> 
>> Hello all,
>> I used to be a big fan of the Flexi keyboard, but since it's updates to 
>> being a third-party keyboard, I have had absolutely no success typing with 
>> this thing. 
>> Whenever I type a word it types gibberish as my first selection, and usually 
>> my second or third selection is what I actually typed. Even when I type the 
>> word I, it gives me the wrong letter!
>> 
>> Am I doing something wrong, or is everybody else having as much trouble with 
>> this keyboard as I am?
>> 
>> I remember the old Fleksy V.O., which worked absolutely perfectly. It was 
>> fantastic for the visually impaired, and I used it constantly. I could type 
>> on it five times faster than any other keyboard I've come across. But they 
>> no longer supported. 
>> I guess it work too good!
>> 
>> I have tried the Swift Key keyboard, with some success. It is not nearly as 
>> fast as the old Fleksy V.O. 
>> Chuck
>> 
>> P.S. I noticed that they no longer have the Wii love feedback but in their 
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Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?

2016-04-04 Thread Chuck Dean

Well, I spoke too soon. As I was working with fleksy, S finally locked up. Now 
the only thing it does is say keyboard when I tap on the letter. No letters 
appear it want to race anything it won't do anything. I have uninstalled and 
reinstalled Fleksy, and both started and restarted the phone. Nothing seems to 
help. I give up. I will now delete it forever.

Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

> On Apr 4, 2016, at 9:25 PM, Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Chuck,
>  
> That's great. I found I got much better at it too after writing that tutorial 
> and practicing a lot more with it. I still get frustrated from time to time 
> particularly when I try using it to do input in another app requiring a 
> search or other text input. Sometimes this just seems to blow up and I go 
> back to the standard iOS keyboard.
>  
> I hope you have continued success.
>  
> Alan
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Chuck Dean
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 11:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?
>  
> HI Alan, I have been playing with Fleksy since this afternoon, and I am 
> getting much better results. As a matter of fact, I am typing this email with 
> Fleksy. 
> The problem I was having is I was under estimating the true size of the 
> keyboard. In the minimal and large size, the keyboard takes up almost half 
> the screen of my iPhone 6. Now that I am reaching farther, I am getting much 
> less gibberish. It's not quite as good as the old Fleksy ℅, but it is getting 
> there   
>  
> Chuck (mobile)
> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
> 
> On Apr 4, 2016, at 4:34 PM, Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Chuck,
>  
> I still find the Fleksy VO app very useful and still use it. I'm trying to 
> make myself use the Fleksy Keyboard more often since like they say, practice 
> makes perfect, or in this case, practice does give you better results.
>  
> After you type what you need with Fleksy VO, do a 2 finger swipe up and 
> you'll be taken to the screen where VO will read your input and let you copy 
> it for pasting to the app of your choice.
>  
> You might try using the Fleksy Keyboard in minimal mode instead of with the 
> spacebar present. This will present the keyboard more like the original 
> Fleksy app. You can switch from the spacebar keyboard by doing a 2 finger 
> swipe down in the keyboard area. A 2 finger swipe up while in the minimal 
> Fleksy keyboard will switch back to the Fleksy spacebar keyboard.
>  
> Good luck.
>  
> Alan
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Chuck Dean
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 5:51 PM
> To: VIPhone
> Subject: Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?
>  
>  Hi Alan, I read your tutorial, excellent job!
>  
> However, I went back and tried Fleksy and had very poor results. It's first 
> prediction is wrong about 99% of the time. Second or third prediction is 
> usually the correct one.
>  
> I do not know if this will improve over time, I seem to remember that it does 
> have a learning future with in it. It is technically faster than the  iOS 
> keyboard, but it is very frustrating! 
>  
> By the way, I went back to my old Fleksy VO app, and tried typing with it. It 
> got every word right! Unfortunately, many of the options no longer work. 
> Although messages and email still work.
> But as I typed, no text was displayed.
> Chuck
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RE: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?

2016-04-04 Thread Alan Lemly

Chuck,

 

That's great. I found I got much better at it too after writing that tutorial 
and practicing a lot more with it. I still get frustrated from time to time 
particularly when I try using it to do input in another app requiring a search 
or other text input. Sometimes this just seems to blow up and I go back to the 
standard iOS keyboard.

 

I hope you have continued success.

 

Alan

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chuck Dean
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 11:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?

 

HI Alan, I have been playing with Fleksy since this afternoon, and I am getting 
much better results. As a matter of fact, I am typing this email with Fleksy. 

The problem I was having is I was under estimating the true size of the 
keyboard. In the minimal and large size, the keyboard takes up almost half the 
screen of my iPhone 6. Now that I am reaching farther, I am getting much less 
gibberish. It's not quite as good as the old Fleksy ℅, but it is getting there  
 

 

Chuck (mobile)

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


On Apr 4, 2016, at 4:34 PM, Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com> wrote:

Chuck,

 

I still find the Fleksy VO app very useful and still use it. I'm trying to make 
myself use the Fleksy Keyboard more often since like they say, practice makes 
perfect, or in this case, practice does give you better results.

 

After you type what you need with Fleksy VO, do a 2 finger swipe up and you'll 
be taken to the screen where VO will read your input and let you copy it for 
pasting to the app of your choice.

 

You might try using the Fleksy Keyboard in minimal mode instead of with the 
spacebar present. This will present the keyboard more like the original Fleksy 
app. You can switch from the spacebar keyboard by doing a 2 finger swipe down 
in the keyboard area. A 2 finger swipe up while in the minimal Fleksy keyboard 
will switch back to the Fleksy spacebar keyboard.

 

Good luck.

 

Alan

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chuck Dean
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 5:51 PM
To: VIPhone
Subject: Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?

 

 Hi Alan, I read your tutorial, excellent job! 

 

However, I went back and tried Fleksy and had very poor results. It's first 
prediction is wrong about 99% of the time. Second or third prediction is 
usually the correct one.

 

I do not know if this will improve over time, I seem to remember that it does 
have a learning future with in it. It is technically faster than the  iOS 
keyboard, but it is very frustrating! 

 

By the way, I went back to my old Fleksy VO app, and tried typing with it. It 
got every word right! Unfortunately, many of the options no longer work. 
Although messages and email still work.

But as I typed, no text was displayed.

Chuck

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Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?

2016-04-04 Thread Chuck Dean

HI Alan, I have been playing with Fleksy since this afternoon, and I am getting 
much better results. As a matter of fact, I am typing this email with Fleksy. 
The problem I was having is I was under estimating the true size of the 
keyboard. In the minimal and large size, the keyboard takes up almost half the 
screen of my iPhone 6. Now that I am reaching farther, I am getting much less 
gibberish. It's not quite as good as the old Fleksy ℅, but it is getting there  
 

Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

> On Apr 4, 2016, at 4:34 PM, Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Chuck,
>  
> I still find the Fleksy VO app very useful and still use it. I'm trying to 
> make myself use the Fleksy Keyboard more often since like they say, practice 
> makes perfect, or in this case, practice does give you better results.
>  
> After you type what you need with Fleksy VO, do a 2 finger swipe up and 
> you'll be taken to the screen where VO will read your input and let you copy 
> it for pasting to the app of your choice.
>  
> You might try using the Fleksy Keyboard in minimal mode instead of with the 
> spacebar present. This will present the keyboard more like the original 
> Fleksy app. You can switch from the spacebar keyboard by doing a 2 finger 
> swipe down in the keyboard area. A 2 finger swipe up while in the minimal 
> Fleksy keyboard will switch back to the Fleksy spacebar keyboard.
>  
> Good luck.
>  
> Alan
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Chuck Dean
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 5:51 PM
> To: VIPhone
> Subject: Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?
>  
>  Hi Alan, I read your tutorial, excellent job!
>  
> However, I went back and tried Fleksy and had very poor results. It's first 
> prediction is wrong about 99% of the time. Second or third prediction is 
> usually the correct one.
>  
> I do not know if this will improve over time, I seem to remember that it does 
> have a learning future with in it. It is technically faster than the  iOS 
> keyboard, but it is very frustrating! 
>  
> By the way, I went back to my old Fleksy VO app, and tried typing with it. It 
> got every word right! Unfortunately, many of the options no longer work. 
> Although messages and email still work.
> But as I typed, no text was displayed.
> Chuck
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Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?

2016-04-04 Thread Chuck Dean

Yes, I only use the minimal keyboard when using fleksy. I have hit the space 
vartoo many times, and learned my lesson. I'm going to keep trying it, 
however it doesn't seem to get any better. I know what I'm doing, it is 
certainly doesn't pick up the right words.

Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

> On Apr 4, 2016, at 4:34 PM, Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Chuck,
>  
> I still find the Fleksy VO app very useful and still use it. I'm trying to 
> make myself use the Fleksy Keyboard more often since like they say, practice 
> makes perfect, or in this case, practice does give you better results.
>  
> After you type what you need with Fleksy VO, do a 2 finger swipe up and 
> you'll be taken to the screen where VO will read your input and let you copy 
> it for pasting to the app of your choice.
>  
> You might try using the Fleksy Keyboard in minimal mode instead of with the 
> spacebar present. This will present the keyboard more like the original 
> Fleksy app. You can switch from the spacebar keyboard by doing a 2 finger 
> swipe down in the keyboard area. A 2 finger swipe up while in the minimal 
> Fleksy keyboard will switch back to the Fleksy spacebar keyboard.
>  
> Good luck.
>  
> Alan
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Chuck Dean
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 5:51 PM
> To: VIPhone
> Subject: Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?
>  
>  Hi Alan, I read your tutorial, excellent job!
>  
> However, I went back and tried Fleksy and had very poor results. It's first 
> prediction is wrong about 99% of the time. Second or third prediction is 
> usually the correct one.
>  
> I do not know if this will improve over time, I seem to remember that it does 
> have a learning future with in it. It is technically faster than the  iOS 
> keyboard, but it is very frustrating! 
>  
> By the way, I went back to my old Fleksy VO app, and tried typing with it. It 
> got every word right! Unfortunately, many of the options no longer work. 
> Although messages and email still work.
> But as I typed, no text was displayed.
> Chuck
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RE: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?

2016-04-04 Thread Alan Lemly

Chuck,

 

I still find the Fleksy VO app very useful and still use it. I'm trying to make 
myself use the Fleksy Keyboard more often since like they say, practice makes 
perfect, or in this case, practice does give you better results.

 

After you type what you need with Fleksy VO, do a 2 finger swipe up and you'll 
be taken to the screen where VO will read your input and let you copy it for 
pasting to the app of your choice.

 

You might try using the Fleksy Keyboard in minimal mode instead of with the 
spacebar present. This will present the keyboard more like the original Fleksy 
app. You can switch from the spacebar keyboard by doing a 2 finger swipe down 
in the keyboard area. A 2 finger swipe up while in the minimal Fleksy keyboard 
will switch back to the Fleksy spacebar keyboard.

 

Good luck.

 

Alan

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chuck Dean
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 5:51 PM
To: VIPhone
Subject: Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?

 

 Hi Alan, I read your tutorial, excellent job! 

 

However, I went back and tried Fleksy and had very poor results. It's first 
prediction is wrong about 99% of the time. Second or third prediction is 
usually the correct one.

 

I do not know if this will improve over time, I seem to remember that it does 
have a learning future with in it. It is technically faster than the  iOS 
keyboard, but it is very frustrating! 

 

By the way, I went back to my old Fleksy VO app, and tried typing with it. It 
got every word right! Unfortunately, many of the options no longer work. 
Although messages and email still work.

But as I typed, no text was displayed.

Chuck

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Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?

2016-04-04 Thread Chuck Dean

I totally agree! 
Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

> On Apr 4, 2016, at 4:22 PM, Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Chuck,
>  
> Best of luck with the Fleksy Keyboard. I've found it fairly daunting and I 
> attribute a lot of that to my love of the original Fleksy app which I wish 
> they still made available in the Apps Store.
>  
> Alan
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Chuck Dean
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 5:15 PM
> To: VIPhone
> Subject: Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?
>  
> Thanks Alan, I found your tutorial with a search of the B iPhone topics. I 
> will read it thoroughly, and hopefully I will be able to use this app. But, I 
> haven't had much success.
> Chuck
> 
> On Monday, April 4, 2016 at 2:28:04 PM UTC-7, Chuck Dean wrote:
> Hello all,
> I used to be a big fan of the Flexi keyboard, but since it's updates to being 
> a third-party keyboard, I have had absolutely no success typing with this 
> thing. 
> Whenever I type a word it types gibberish as my first selection, and usually 
> my second or third selection is what I actually typed. Even when I type the 
> word I, it gives me the wrong letter!
>  
> Am I doing something wrong, or is everybody else having as much trouble with 
> this keyboard as I am?
>  
> I remember the old Fleksy V.O., which worked absolutely perfectly. It was 
> fantastic for the visually impaired, and I used it constantly. I could type 
> on it five times faster than any other keyboard I've come across. But they no 
> longer supported. 
> I guess it work too good!
>  
> I have tried the Swift Key keyboard, with some success. It is not nearly as 
> fast as the old Fleksy V.O. 
> Chuck
>  
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> app. Now they expect you to go to Facebook, which I am not a member.
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RE: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?

2016-04-04 Thread Alan Lemly

Chuck,

 

Best of luck with the Fleksy Keyboard. I've found it fairly daunting and I 
attribute a lot of that to my love of the original Fleksy app which I wish they 
still made available in the Apps Store.

 

Alan

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chuck Dean
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 5:15 PM
To: VIPhone
Subject: Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?

 

Thanks Alan, I found your tutorial with a search of the B iPhone topics. I will 
read it thoroughly, and hopefully I will be able to use this app. But, I 
haven't had much success.

Chuck

On Monday, April 4, 2016 at 2:28:04 PM UTC-7, Chuck Dean wrote:

Hello all,

I used to be a big fan of the Flexi keyboard, but since it's updates to being a 
third-party keyboard, I have had absolutely no success typing with this thing. 

Whenever I type a word it types gibberish as my first selection, and usually my 
second or third selection is what I actually typed. Even when I type the word 
I, it gives me the wrong letter!

 

Am I doing something wrong, or is everybody else having as much trouble with 
this keyboard as I am?

 

I remember the old Fleksy V.O., which worked absolutely perfectly. It was 
fantastic for the visually impaired, and I used it constantly. I could type on 
it five times faster than any other keyboard I've come across. But they no 
longer supported. 

I guess it work too good!

 

I have tried the Swift Key keyboard, with some success. It is not nearly as 
fast as the old Fleksy V.O. 

Chuck

 

P.S. I noticed that they no longer have the Wii love feedback but in their app. 
Now they expect you to go to Facebook, which I am not a member.

 

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Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?

2016-04-04 Thread Devin Prater

I tried Fleksy again as well. Nowadays, though, I just use direct touch typing 
on the iOS keyboard, because there I have auto-complete and all that. I’ve read 
that Fleksy has auto-complete, but nothing in your tutorial mentions it.
Sent from my Mac.

Devin Prater
r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com



> On Apr 4, 2016, at 5:51 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
> 
>  Hi Alan, I read your tutorial, excellent job!
>  
> However, I went back and tried Fleksy and had very poor results. It's first 
> prediction is wrong about 99% of the time. Second or third prediction is 
> usually the correct one.
> 
> I do not know if this will improve over time, I seem to remember that it does 
> have a learning future with in it. It is technically faster than the  iOS 
> keyboard, but it is very frustrating! 
> 
> By the way, I went back to my old Fleksy VO app, and tried typing with it. It 
> got every word right! Unfortunately, many of the options no longer work. 
> Although messages and email still work.
> But as I typed, no text was displayed.
> Chuck
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Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?

2016-04-04 Thread Chuck Dean


>
>  Hi Alan, I read your tutorial, excellent job! 
>
 

> However, I went back and tried Fleksy and had very poor results. It's 
> first prediction is wrong about 99% of the time. Second or third prediction 
> is usually the correct one.
>

I do not know if this will improve over time, I seem to remember that it 
does have a learning future with in it. It is technically faster than the 
 iOS keyboard, but it is very frustrating! 

By the way, I went back to my old Fleksy VO app, and tried typing with it. 
It got every word right! Unfortunately, many of the options no longer work. 
Although messages and email still work.
But as I typed, no text was displayed.
Chuck

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Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?

2016-04-04 Thread Chuck Dean

Thanks Alan, I found your tutorial with a search of the B iPhone topics. I 
will read it thoroughly, and hopefully I will be able to use this app. But, 
I haven't had much success.
Chuck

On Monday, April 4, 2016 at 2:28:04 PM UTC-7, Chuck Dean wrote:
>
> Hello all,
> I used to be a big fan of the Flexi keyboard, but since it's updates to 
> being a third-party keyboard, I have had absolutely no success typing with 
> this thing. 
> Whenever I type a word it types gibberish as my first selection, and 
> usually my second or third selection is what I actually typed. Even when I 
> type the word I, it gives me the wrong letter!
>
> Am I doing something wrong, or is everybody else having as much trouble 
> with this keyboard as I am?
>
> I remember the old Fleksy V.O., which worked absolutely perfectly. It was 
> fantastic for the visually impaired, and I used it constantly. I could type 
> on it five times faster than any other keyboard I've come across. But they 
> no longer supported. 
> I guess it work too good!
>
> I have tried the Swift Key keyboard, with some success. It is not nearly 
> as fast as the old Fleksy V.O. 
> Chuck
>
> P.S. I noticed that they no longer have the Wii love feedback but in their 
> app. Now they expect you to go to Facebook, which I am not a member.
>
>

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RE: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?

2016-04-04 Thread Alan Lemly

Chuck,

 

I wrote a Fleksy Keyboard tutorial and a tips guide for the first-time Fleksy 
keyboard user in the middle of January and though they've released a couple of 
upgrades since then, I think most of what I wrote is still accurate.

 

You can download the Fleksy Keyboard tutorial.html from here:

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ubtto7ggk95vmjc/Fleksy%20Keyboard%20tutorial.html?dl=0

 

You can download the First-Time Fleksy Keyboard User tips.htm from here:

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/476an5w5l60w3dt/First-Time%20Fleksy%20Keyboard%20User%20tips.html?dl=0

 

I marked up each of the above documents so that putting your rotor on headings 
and single-finger swiping will jump between sections. Some sections contain 
bulleted lists so single finger right swipes should jump between bulleted items.

 

I've noticed a bit of improvement with the Fleksy Keyboard when manually typing 
in a letter at a time in the last couple of upgrades. The keyboard also seems 
to behave better when it's called up for input in another app but I admit, it 
can still be frustrating when doing this. It still has the annoying bug of 
repeating what you just deleted when you press the first letter of new input 
for those of us using VoiceOver. I've trained myself to ignore the first spoken 
thing following a deletion.

 

I hope you find these helpful and post back if you have more comments and 
questions. Oh, and they've never made the Fleksy Keyboard anything as easy to 
use as the Fleksy VO/original Fleksy was for VoiceOver users in my opinion.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chuck Dean
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 4:56 PM
To: VIPhone
Subject: Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?

 

Thanks, I will do a search and see if I can find it.

Chuck

On Monday, April 4, 2016 at 2:28:04 PM UTC-7, Chuck Dean wrote:

Hello all,

I used to be a big fan of the Flexi keyboard, but since it's updates to being a 
third-party keyboard, I have had absolutely no success typing with this thing. 

Whenever I type a word it types gibberish as my first selection, and usually my 
second or third selection is what I actually typed. Even when I type the word 
I, it gives me the wrong letter!

 

Am I doing something wrong, or is everybody else having as much trouble with 
this keyboard as I am?

 

I remember the old Fleksy V.O., which worked absolutely perfectly. It was 
fantastic for the visually impaired, and I used it constantly. I could type on 
it five times faster than any other keyboard I've come across. But they no 
longer supported. 

I guess it work too good!

 

I have tried the Swift Key keyboard, with some success. It is not nearly as 
fast as the old Fleksy V.O. 

Chuck

 

P.S. I noticed that they no longer have the Wii love feedback but in their app. 
Now they expect you to go to Facebook, which I am not a member.

 

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Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?

2016-04-04 Thread Chuck Dean

Thanks, I will do a search and see if I can find it.
Chuck

On Monday, April 4, 2016 at 2:28:04 PM UTC-7, Chuck Dean wrote:
>
> Hello all,
> I used to be a big fan of the Flexi keyboard, but since it's updates to 
> being a third-party keyboard, I have had absolutely no success typing with 
> this thing. 
> Whenever I type a word it types gibberish as my first selection, and 
> usually my second or third selection is what I actually typed. Even when I 
> type the word I, it gives me the wrong letter!
>
> Am I doing something wrong, or is everybody else having as much trouble 
> with this keyboard as I am?
>
> I remember the old Fleksy V.O., which worked absolutely perfectly. It was 
> fantastic for the visually impaired, and I used it constantly. I could type 
> on it five times faster than any other keyboard I've come across. But they 
> no longer supported. 
> I guess it work too good!
>
> I have tried the Swift Key keyboard, with some success. It is not nearly 
> as fast as the old Fleksy V.O. 
> Chuck
>
> P.S. I noticed that they no longer have the Wii love feedback but in their 
> app. Now they expect you to go to Facebook, which I am not a member.
>
>

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Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?

2016-04-04 Thread englishrider91

Chuck, I can't remember who wrote it, but somebody did a very extensive review 
of Fleksy on this list. I can't remember their suggestions, but I took them up 
on them, and while I haven't used Fleksy in a while, it worked quite well when 
I did.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Apr 4, 2016, at 2:28 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> I used to be a big fan of the Flexi keyboard, but since it's updates to being 
> a third-party keyboard, I have had absolutely no success typing with this 
> thing. 
> Whenever I type a word it types gibberish as my first selection, and usually 
> my second or third selection is what I actually typed. Even when I type the 
> word I, it gives me the wrong letter!
> 
> Am I doing something wrong, or is everybody else having as much trouble with 
> this keyboard as I am?
> 
> I remember the old Fleksy V.O., which worked absolutely perfectly. It was 
> fantastic for the visually impaired, and I used it constantly. I could type 
> on it five times faster than any other keyboard I've come across. But they no 
> longer supported. 
> I guess it work too good!
> 
> I have tried the Swift Key keyboard, with some success. It is not nearly as 
> fast as the old Fleksy V.O. 
> Chuck
> 
> P.S. I noticed that they no longer have the Wii love feedback but in their 
> app. Now they expect you to go to Facebook, which I am not a member.
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